Okay. You got me. Had to search for that clip of the woman taking a watermelon to the face. I was not disappointed.

It helps if we pretend the Tiberian series ended with Kane's Wrath. REALLY helps...

Zade: should you play command amd conquer 4 in 2- CnC fans: No

"Kane has allied with gdi" What? Meanwhile tib wars 3 kane: "Siding with gdi is blasphemy!!"

the new Scorpion is literally a tank with an Obelisk welded to it.

I shall never forget the name...Westwood.

I would have had no problem if it started it's own series or at least called a spin off . But calling it " C&C4" doesn't sound good . I would have called it "C&C strike team " . That's because it is basically you killing the enemy with a small team while not having a base.

Short answer: No. Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

bro, u made a mistake, there is no Command @ Conquer 4...silly youtubers Kappa

I sided with GDI because that's just my favorite faction in the series, but in the next cutscene I found out that colonel whomever is suddenly acting against the wishes of high command and I'm renegade. Since, you know, avoiding that was the whole reason I didn't go with the much cooler Kane, I stopped playing. What's up with those GDI uniforms, anyways? UCP wouldn't have felt out of place in maybe the first two games, but come on. It's in the future! Where's the future uniforms!

Let's agree on one thing. C&C4 and C&C:Rivals don't exist at all. Anyone who thinks otherwise must go home and rethink his life.

The paradox is that playing the campaign on release leveled you up super slowly, so you had to grind multiplayer to progress in single player and grind single player to stand a chance in multiplayer.

Critics reviews: Not great, not terrible... C&C fans: The core is open....

I remember seeing this come out and was super excited, then I played it, and didn't play another C&C for 5 years.

RIP Westwood, you're truly missed *as a tear rolls down his cheek*

The Scrin where only there to harvest Tiberium however they where not expecting any life to still exist by the time they came to harvest and end up getting obliterated by GDI. But the Scin campaign which was only accessible if you beat both the Nod and GDI campaign the head of the Scrin efforts was going to come back with a full invasion force. But since there is no Tiberium left at the end of C&C 4 they had no reason to come back. That is how I would put it if the game needed a explanation to the absence of the Scrin.

c&c 4? tiberian twilight? never heard of it... to my knowlage, there has been no c&c 4 i dont know what ur talking about

20 Minutes when all you needed to say was "No"? Just kidding it's good to have a clear and unbiased review of a game.

"EA Games: Disgrace everything!"

This is depressing. Decpacito, play country roads

Tiberium twighlight is the heartache of the cnc fandom

Ah, the great unspeakable disaster. The apocalypse that ruined our C&C communities and the franchise for years and years. Only now are there small seeds of hope growing again, amidst the desolate EA postnuclear wasteland. You might think I'm being overly dramatic. But words can not really express how devastating this game was to our communities. The fans playing since Tiberian Dawn and all who followed us after. EA did gather the most prominent C&C community members to the very first gamescom to present us with this game. The reaction should have already been enough proof to EA that they should pull the plug while they still could and move on. But they didn't. To make matters worse, Starcraft 2 was set to release later that year as well. Oh APOC, he tried his best organizing this. After that conference, 2 EA employees got fired while they were in Cologne with us. Many more were fired later, some others left EA or worked in another EA Studio on other projects. The C&C franchise was dropped BEFORE C&C4 even released. I will never forgive them.

Tiberium wars be like : We reclaimed a yellow zone to a blue zone :D ! Twilight be like : Nope that shiet never happened, the world is doomed :(

The music is missing it's daily dose of Frank Klepacki.

7:53 That Mastodon is really the ONE thing that saves Tiberian Twilight from oblivion for me. OK, and maybe the second-to-last GDI mission, which really should have been the final mission given it’s a 1v3 ending

You, my dear Sir, deserve a commendation to have done the daunting task of reviewing this tragedy o.o7

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I remember being so excited the day I saw CnC4 in my local gamestore. I bought it without a thought and rushed home to play it. Then after no time at all I realised there was no base building and everything seemed weird and different and I was so disappointed I uninstalled it. Six months later I picked it off the shelf and thought maybe I had been rash and not given it a fair chance so I tried playing it again and again after some hours of play it just didn't feel like classic CnC. Sigh. Anyhow that Bioware ending was hilarious. I freaking love Mass Effect but also had the same happen when I bought Andromeda which is still uninstalled since the first play attempt... 😕

Man, this made me go back and watch the old cutscenes. As far as the whole "Kane has been here thousands of years" that's heavily implied as far back as the OG C&C. Not that he's a superbeing, but that he is immortal or something similar. In the FPS spin off Renegade, which is criminally underrated imo, you can find an area while exploring the Temple of Nod with what appears to be the tomb of Abel, and a line from Kane when you find this area implies that Kane is the Cain from the biblical story of Kane and Abel. Edit:I'd also like to add that I appreciate you giving this an objective review. I always know I'm going to have a solid, objective review of anything you put up on your channel. Even though from time to time I subjectively disagree, I haven't found anything on your channel that I can say isn't true. Your channel is one of like, three or four channels that I actually have the notification bell set up for. Just wanted to say thanks for always putting out good content.

Friend: “Hey what’s command and conquer?” Me: “It’s a good game and ends at Kane’s wraith” Friend: “oh but it says it has fo-“ Me: *grabs him* “Thou shall not speak of the horrible game and the foul company who ruined it”

Wanna switch your strategy? Give up a life to do so. WORST GAME MECHANIC EVER!

This is neat, good work man

There are two games at the top of my best RTS of all time list: 1. Supreme Commander 2. C&C 3 Also, C&C 3: KW deserves an honorable mention for adding sub-factions to multiplayer. A way bring diversity into game without overloading the player with introduction of new factions with new units, new backstory. Brilliant move in my opinion.

"Should you Play it in 2019?" I think the question should be "CAN you Play it in 2019?" And the answer is: No. Because the login servers required to play it are gone.

This went from "Is it really bad?" to "Why it really is this bad" very fast. I love it

Go play C&C 3 again or go play Halo Wars 2. Or, heck, give Universe at War: Earth Assault a shot, that game deserved better :'(

One bit of context for time , there was big push at time adding as much DRM as could to a game and issue at the time was the thing was need to always needed to be online to run the game.

This game may be redeemed by renaming it as cnc3 expansion, alongside with Kane's Wrath 'global conquest'. Call it strike team or crawler mode or whatever.

"Kane bleeds to death in 4:00" The bar in the top of the last gameplay footage you showed (20:12) sums it up quite nicely.

Wouldn't it have been so much cooler if Kane contacted you through secret communication and GDI didn't know about it? You could have been running errands for Kane during missions while GDI still think your working for them. Kane gives you a final command and if in the mission you follow his orders rather than GDI's you join him.

I'm not even gonna watch the video, I already know the answer.

DOWN WITH EA!

"Oh, let's try this... COMMAND AND CONQUER FO-" "NOBODY ESCAPES THE BLACK HAND!" "OH FU-"

They screwed up by not making another Red Alert. That series had massive charisma!

This game should be good without the name " Command And Conquer".

It should have been a Spinoff, i accept that... not C&C4. And guess what, afaik C&C4 was originally C&C Arena, but EA wanted another C&C game quick (CnC4), and EALA had to use assets and resources from Arena and port it into Tiberian Twilight.

Now we all know why Kane was Angry in Kane's Wrath!

your videos are great and gripping! i don't want to skip a second!

Rest in peace Westwood studio

Command and Conquer...4? I dont remember that one existing, unless its that *[DATA EXPUNGED]* I have in my library

The OST sample at ~10:00 gives me Homeworld vibes, strangely enough.

Loving the channel - going through nearly every video and had a quick question. Any thoughts of doing some video on the Dune rts games?

It's not just plain greed that is the problem; it's a lot about shortsightedness too. Pleasing investors and earning bonuses is about making a lot of money fast. As a CEO, making good long term decisions at the expense of the short term, is as smart as shooing yourself in the leg. EA (and their friends) is not a video game company. They know very little about video games, and care even less.

For me personally, RA2 and C&C3 were the best ones in this series. Never was able to get into the older games and C&C4 is not my cup of tea. I found RA3 to be quite fun as well and really added something new with all the sea building possibilities, but they overdid it with the silliness imo.

At 3:40 I love how they keep looking at each other even though they're broadcasting to you. They must have been standing next to each other in the studio.

And now the wait for doing the Red Alert series, probably, idk, great video regardless

The story reminded me of the starfox game for the ds. It was literally all the worse outcomes ever and felt so out of place. I always felt like the game was trying to be the next world in conflict but it was far to awkward being stuck to a mobile factory. I also missed playing the scrin, I LOVED THEM!

well, this one managed to make an empty bucket overflow, Rivals straight up broke the bucket.

the ost at 10:00 feels like something you would see on delta halo in halo combat evolved

It just aches in the bones, you know? Great vid! Thanks for filling us in. RIP C&C

I told you NOT to touch it. NOT! Y U NO LISTEN?! The problem is that they forced a new gameplay concept and super low budgets on an already established series. Had they made this its own game and actually made the fourth Tiberium game, then I'm sure the response would've been different. Alas, EA wanted to kill off the series, so...

I chose the gdi drone. This game was the first 1 in the series I played. I loved it. Then I tried the 3rd one and never returned to 4. I cant believe you didnt talk about the NOD dual pistol wielding flying ninjas. The coolest unit ever made.

I enjoyed the units, how that theyre legacy units from C&C1, 2, and 3. The C&C2 units that got dropped from C&C3 are back like the GDI Titan, Hover MLRS(Sandstorm), and walking Mammoth MK2(Mastodon).. The sheer variety is impressive. The downsides being that you have to unlock them by raising your profile rank by grinding, have a strict limit on your "army" size, and can only access 1/3rd of them because of the division in Crawler types. Still its a "strategy" game that lacks anything that makes a strategy. No building bases. No collecting resources. If you could mod those units into Command and Conquer 3, it would be amazing.

I actually believe Kane being some sort of immortal super being isn't new. He's been strongly implied to be the biblical Cain, and of course he hasn't aged a day since Tiberian Dawn despite the four games spanning something like 100 years. That's about all they got right with his character though, oh boy.

Oh dear. Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear.

I always liked standard missions, where you build your base and tried to get past through the "strike team" and "commando" missions with no bases as quickly as possible. In CnC 4, they made an entire game around "strike team" missions. It does not sound like a game for me.

the issue I had was having to constantly change walkers depending on the situation through out a mission and getting out numbered cuz you couldnt get enough units on the field due to the down time between changes. combined with the unit limit took the fun out of the game that's meant to be fun

9:40 TT NOD soundtrack is phenomonal and I still listen to it today every now and then.

The answer is a definitive "NO"! You can listen to its soundtrack, though...

Man i really didnt expect a clickbait from *you.* For a moment you almost made me believe there was a C&C 4 game.

Short answer is a complete steel reinforced granite wall of NO. This game disgusts with how it perverted a great lore with the mad cash grab that EA attempted. The great ender of great games ripped the sould out of a game that had alot life left in it. All for a shit show of a finale that never even made it to the drawing board

Grew up playing C&C, playing tiberian sun and red alert 2 since I was just 4 years old. Every time a new C&C dropped I begged my parents to buy me it. I especially loved C&C3 because I was being more strategic and stopped mindlessly pressing buttons, and still remember how proud I was finishing all missions on hard with bonus objectives completed. (I never knew about the DLC’s for each game though, a very pleasant surprise when I replayed the whole franchise.) when C&C 4 dropped it was close to my birthday, so like always I begged my mom to buy it for me. Even though we had some financial trouble due to a divorce, she scraped as much cash together as she could. When I got it I was so excited, I spent the whole day playing it, but I got more and more disappointed because it wouldn’t let me build a base. I figured out about halfway through that this game wasn’t like the C&C games I loved. I still remember crying out of frustration that night.

Its very depressing to see base building being removed from rts

Finally a nice review for this game, which isn't JUST hate. : ) Well narrated.

great review... thanks for sharing

I played through it quickly to see the story and haven't touched it once in 10 years or so since. I regularly check out the other C&C games every few years esp. RA2

I think this game is very good though... Oh shit! This is not April fool's day.

This was made during the time when ever rts publisher wanted to change their games into mobas.

Its been over ten years... I remember playing and grinding levels in the pvp. I felt so bad that this was the conclusion of a series I started playing as a child.

Was sure to God you were from NZ, your stronghold video confirmed it! Greetings from Wellington :D

The saddest thing about C&C4 to me having replayed it is that it does have a lot of good and interesting ideas that would've been amazing by themselves, such as the entire Crawler system that I feel should be expanded upon more by other RTS games (the closest I got would be the Homeworld games especially Deserts of Kharak), where the idea of having an armed mobile base where you create everything off is amazing, and lorewise it's even the best logical outcome of the entire MCV system. Problem is, the game doesn't know what it wants to be, and in the process all those good ideas just weren't properly meshed together into a coherent whole. Had C&C4 stuck more with traditional RTS elements but with a Crawler, I feel it would've been better received and being less ambitious probably would've made it more consistent. Instead they tried to upend the entire table and ended up with a mess as a result.

Command & Conquer 3 was the last good one in the series. Don't bother with twilight it's garbage.

I've had this game in my origin library as it came with some C&C combo for a good 5+ years... I have yet to launch Twilight. Still enjoying C&C3 though

Please do a review on act of war direct action/ high treason! Hidden gem of an RTS imo. 2005. Will bring back any nostalgia experienced in Command and conquer Generals, but with the realism of Company of heroes.

Most beloved strategy game?! Age of Empires 2, Starcraft and Warcraft 3 would like a word with you! As for EA, killing off your IP's doesn't sound like a smart business decision, its hard to believe that EA is still thriving when they would rather sell shoddy one-dimensional games rather than fleshed out projects. Perhaps I don't understand business but do so many people buy the half baked games from EA that they can just keep doing it?

Hey Can you do Mental Omega review!!

I should do my homework, but here I am. God, I hate my self some times. I like your channel, thumbs up.

C&C4 is the game that most deserves a remaster - basically on everything. Maybe they can keep the unit names and a few cool concepts such as the crawler. And remake everything else.

Iam calling it now. EA gona screw up the remaster I dont know how, but they will find a way for sure

You thought that after C&C3 and KW turned out well, they would continue this trend of releasing good RTS games? Well here's a lesson for you: "AROUND EA HACKS, NEVER RELAX."

The Nod music was Amazing adleast lol

Old fan of the series here. I thought this was a great video. Well presented. 👍

I think you forgot to point out the worst part about the combat system, it worked in a rock-paper-scissors system that made every target get tickled by their non-counter attackers specially in early game, so you could try making an all around army, but it was better for every player to just spam 1 unit, and swap places when needed, all around armies were crushed by basically anything that had numbers, also all matches were always Nod vs GDI, never mirror matches which made the whole "meta" (yes there was one) even worse. At least until tier 3 where you just spam your strongest unit and charged them next to your crawler before your enemies could get their tier 3 spam ready (nod invisible support crawler with vertigo bombers made running GDI defense hell while solo queueing in MP matches). I was there at the beta, saw all the outcry for it's multiplayer every day on forums, it sucked. And the soundtrack wasn't bad, but it was so generic it didn't fit the series, and i'm pretty sure you've heard some parts on some TV channels like the History Channel, and didn't even know they were part of C&C4's OST.

At least we got CnC Rivals.. Right? ..

"The Prophets Ascension" is quite possible the best end credits song I have heard in a game though

On the Scrin threat you mentioned; The scrin were only on earth for the tiberium. if its gone, they wont bother with earth, so there isnt a scrin threat

Such a shame they discontinued this series. Greatest RTS of all time. CC Generals 2 looked promising though..

You'd think that this would be the definite proof that RTS and MOBA don't mix. Then Dawn of War 3 came out and there was great wailing and gnashing of teeth.

The other *really annoying* point is that, even playing single player (which, note, in all other C&C games had you unlocking higher tier units as you progress,) you had to earn ... XP or something to unlock the last units for the last mission. Without which it's an iron plated bitch to get anything done. So.. .yeah. I consider this whatever the purchase price was, lost, probably dropped on a street somewhere, because that would have been *more fun.*

C&C3: What happens when you shoot the ion command with the ion cannon? C&C4: Huh? Best I can do is, endless 1 vs 1 & internet connection not found, take it or leave.