Breaking Ulalek, Fused Monstrosity out of the box 🛠 Eldrazi Incursion Precon Upgrade

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Commander Mechanic

Commander Mechanic

12 күн бұрын

The Eldrazi Incursion precon is a great start to building an Eldrazi Deck in Commander, but how to we make the MOST of Ulalek, Fused Monstrosity? And where did they come from??
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@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 10 күн бұрын
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@inujuju
@inujuju 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for going through things at a slower pace! As someone who struggles with the stack, it means a lot that you walk us through it so we can better understand.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 10 күн бұрын
Glad to help!
@oecus2786
@oecus2786 10 күн бұрын
Your lore is incorrect Ulalek is before the gate watch where Ulamog and Kozilek spawn in the same spot creating a brood from both.
@alexortiz9777
@alexortiz9777 10 күн бұрын
Yeah I'm really curious where he got his info from 😓
@BorealGames
@BorealGames 10 күн бұрын
Yeah, immediately paused there as I was extremely confused as to where this lore is from. Ulalek's pamphlet states that Ulalek appeared on a plane that has long since been drained of its mana
@themadstudent
@themadstudent 8 күн бұрын
Spreading Plague is a must-have inclusion to a mostly devoid deck. It's backbreaking.
@richardpieniozek8379
@richardpieniozek8379 Күн бұрын
I really like running Ellie and Alan from the Jurassic park cards, it’s pretty sick ❤
@IngloriousGambler
@IngloriousGambler 8 күн бұрын
I think Animar, Soul of Elements could be a great include. If its trigger is doubled once or twice with Ulalek, you'll cast your big guys for almost nothing, having ore mana left to pump Animar and in return saving even more on casting the next one and using Ulalek.
@SiliconSicilian
@SiliconSicilian 7 күн бұрын
You are an evil genius. It is skirting away from tribal but it is very synergistic.
@PowerCrazedGengar
@PowerCrazedGengar 5 күн бұрын
I Believe animar is a passive ability, not triggered or activated. All though i hope im wrong simply because i would love this combo
@SiliconSicilian
@SiliconSicilian 5 күн бұрын
@@PowerCrazedGengar The +1/+1 counters are a trigger and the cost reduction is a passive. So, the combo works and it would gain counters twice as fast.
@lunk2551
@lunk2551 4 күн бұрын
Animar is a better commander then inclusion
@ZOMBI3JAY
@ZOMBI3JAY 9 күн бұрын
Thanks! This is the video I was looking for to hook up my commander deck. Very clear and detailed!
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 9 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@Shoyro
@Shoyro 8 күн бұрын
Capricious One comes to mind. Throw in Rogue's Passage with it and every time it deals damage, it creates Spawn tokens equal to the damage. While it's heavy on Casting Cost, that is crazy fast ramp that makes it quicker to call out the big guns.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 8 күн бұрын
I love Capricious One in Purphoros decks!
@SiliconSicilian
@SiliconSicilian 7 күн бұрын
A lot of the same thoughts I had when I looked at the deck. Ultimately, an Eldrazi deck is very strong and I opted for a different randomized approach with shuffling in Eldrazi from a stack to reduce power level. One question; how did you get $118.80 to show up on Moxfield for a deck that is over $250 out of the box? Is there a setting that only shows upgrades? EDIT: revised to cheapest and price is almost exact. Seems that whoever originally uploaded the pre-con didn't set to cheapest version for cards.
@Thaao98
@Thaao98 Күн бұрын
Morophon the Boundless and Fist of Suns, All Eldrazi spells are free
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic Күн бұрын
Morophon is even in the base list!
@darksidesoul1540
@darksidesoul1540 6 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video! Question: how do you show on Moxfield the mana value of the cards near them?
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 6 күн бұрын
It’s in the display options menu next to the search bar!
@kytis13
@kytis13 8 күн бұрын
I would almost go with imoti over zhulodok if you want cascade. It's cheaper to buy and triggers cascade off of CMC6+ spells. It's not double cascade but still works
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 8 күн бұрын
Great recco
@Bruno-no9ko
@Bruno-no9ko 9 күн бұрын
Ugin's eye is a bit expensive but should it be your next buy if you want to invest a bit more in deck? What about conduit of ruin or the new 4CMC eldrazi mytocist ramp creature, nulldrifter? Not as expensive and can be copied, have great synergi with the rest of stuff. Thoughts on these?
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 9 күн бұрын
Mytocist isn’t where I’d prefer it on the curve it’s pushing right at the cut off of where I’d include ramp. Eye of Ugin and Ugin’s Labyrinth are both FINE inclusions but far from necessary - they’d be like adding Ancient Tomb into your deck. And Nulldrifter is a good include for sure.
@Skyfysh
@Skyfysh 9 күн бұрын
I’ve got some serious mileage with Kozilek, the Great Distortion. I can guarantee the value Eye of Ugin provides to an Eldrazi deck. That said, it’s way too expensive currently. I’d suggest proxying it until it either comes down in price, or gets reprinted.
@SiliconSicilian
@SiliconSicilian 7 күн бұрын
@@Skyfysh I bought the Expedition version 2 days before it was banned in Modern and crashed... Don't trigger me on reprints!!! Since, I've definitely got my value out of it so I'm not as salty about it "falling" in price from the Modern ban. Agree that it is a must add if you can get it.
@luisguilherme45
@luisguilherme45 10 күн бұрын
Because of complex cards like these my commander games are becoming shorter in terms of rounds, but the games are longer because every single spell takes forever to resolve.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 10 күн бұрын
Relatable.
@AleksaStefanRadunovic
@AleksaStefanRadunovic Күн бұрын
I'd like to try these combos out, if only the deck I ordered would arrive after 3 weeks of being late already.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic Күн бұрын
Oof
@gavinlee9999
@gavinlee9999 9 күн бұрын
I honestly think Eldrazi Displacer should stay as it’s fantastic for repeatedly thwarting targeted removal
@CheMedicenD
@CheMedicenD 9 күн бұрын
You took one of the best cards, wastescape can exile 2 artifacts and return 2 creatures, helps a lot for slow down players
@habibiindra2702
@habibiindra2702 8 күн бұрын
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you can get Ulalek's trigger to resolve last by holding priority. You need a copy effect like strionic resonator for this to work. Normaly ulalek's trigger will be placed above the eldrazi spell on the stack, responding to this trigger does not delay it from entering the stack.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 8 күн бұрын
You get to order your triggers, and can make sure ulalek’s trigger resolves FIRST, but if you want to add anything to the stack while your triggers are on and before an opponent has a chance to, you must hold priority and do it.
@ATERRADOSmtg
@ATERRADOSmtg 10 күн бұрын
Im using caves for colorless
@dylsterx8415
@dylsterx8415 10 күн бұрын
Chulane is also especially disgusting with this deck, getting both extra ramp, draw, and cast triggers that can be doubled.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 10 күн бұрын
Careful; Chulane is enters the battlefield and Ulalek is on cast - you won’t have a Chulane Trigger to double but you will get two with the token entering
@bendsmore
@bendsmore 5 күн бұрын
Morophon the Boundless seems like a good value add. It can make the commander cast free by reducing one of each colored mana.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 5 күн бұрын
it's in the default deck
@bendsmore
@bendsmore 5 күн бұрын
@@CommanderMechanic oh I see that now 🧐
@zeekstr4
@zeekstr4 8 күн бұрын
I'm new to magic but my question is, why are only spells on the stack being copied? Don't I control all spells I already have on the battlefield?
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 8 күн бұрын
Hey great question! A spell is only a spell anywhere other than in play. Once it's in play it's a permanent! So a creature on the battlefield isn't a creature spell, it's a creature permanent.
@camillewolff4233
@camillewolff4233 2 күн бұрын
If I understand correctly, by casting echoes of eternity and paying the 2 colorless I get a copy of it ?
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 2 күн бұрын
Correct it is an eldrazi spell
@camillewolff4233
@camillewolff4233 2 күн бұрын
@@CommanderMechanic Thanks ! That's tasty ahaha
@jedlone
@jedlone 9 күн бұрын
okay but say i have ulalek, abtruse archaic and roaming throne out?
@SiliconSicilian
@SiliconSicilian 7 күн бұрын
...when you really want to strain your grey matter. My friends and I were playing "chill" competitive magic intending to throw down about 4-5 quick games in an hour. Echoes of Eternity hits the board and very competent players with good knowledge of the stack all simultaneously just went "F*$&, this is going to be rough resolving stacks." Board had Ulalek, Roaming Throne, and Echoes of Eternity out. Adding Archaic would have been a complete overload.
@GiraffeCrab
@GiraffeCrab 8 күн бұрын
Ulalek + echos of eternity + mirror box = 15 ulamogs. Its fun. Though anyone able to correct me on a ruling? If i have monstrous vortex, cast eldrazi, pay 2 to copy things. I get 2 instance of monstrous vortex disover. First discover finds creature that triggers the discover again. I pay two to copy the cast and all things on the stack... Will the discover trigger still on the stack copy again for 3 instances of discover that can keep going as long as you have 2 to pay and a power 5+ creature being cast??
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 8 күн бұрын
if everything flipped is an eldrazi, yes.
@DarkenAltair
@DarkenAltair 2 күн бұрын
Channelings too
@fernandob2275
@fernandob2275 6 күн бұрын
Bismuth and displacer are golden lol you don’t have to be “theft themed” to include bismuth. Ulalek copying their triggers *chef kiss
@66exe
@66exe 6 күн бұрын
Endless one and universal Automoton are staples.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 6 күн бұрын
Good picks
@CrapsGoodxD
@CrapsGoodxD 10 күн бұрын
Could you do a video where you explain stack combo's that utilize Ulalek, reflections of littjara and echoes of eternity? I'm trying to understand the insane copying and looping that its alows to do but its melting my brain. Can this work?: On field: ulalek, reflections of littjara and 3 echoes of eternity eldrazi creature spell littjara trigger to copy creature spell ulalek trigger (pay 2 colorless) echoes #1 copy ulalek echoes #1 copy creature spell echoes #2 copy echoes #1 spell cast trigger echoes #3 copy echoes #1 spell cast trigger echoes #2 copy ulalek echoes #2 copy creature spell echoes #1 copy echoes #2 spell cast trigger echoes #3 copy echoes #2 spell cast trigger echoes #3 copy ulalek echoes #3 copy creature spell echoes #1 copy echoes #3 spell cast trigger echoes #2 copy echoes #3 spell cast trigger And am I allowed full control over where to place all these simultanious effects going off, so as to make the stack more valueable? to get something like this: eldrazi creature spell littjara trigger to copy creature spell ulalek trigger (pay 2 colorless) echoes #1 copy creature spell echoes #2 copy echoes #1 spell cast trigger echoes #3 copy echoes #1 spell cast trigger echoes #1 copy ulalek echoes #2 copy creature spell echoes #1 copy echoes #2 spell cast trigger echoes #3 copy echoes #2 spell cast trigger echoes #2 copy ulalek echoes #3 copy creature spell echoes #1 copy echoes #3 spell cast trigger echoes #2 copy echoes #3 spell cast trigger echoes #3 copy ulalek This is one run without even resolving an echoes copy of ulalek to double everything, thats what makes me super confused. How would the stack continue to look like once an echo copy of ulalek gets payed and resolved, and so on. Would love a video about it from someone who is experienced, I just started mtg 2 weeks ago and trying my best to fully grasp it so I don't make illegal or suboptimal plays. My brain hurts, But I love it 😅
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 10 күн бұрын
There are some nuances that are missed - for instance the Echoes trigger doubler is not itself a trigger, it's a static ability. Meaning as soon as Ulalek's trigger goes on the stack so do all the copies. All the copies need to be paid for individually to prevent infinite stacks like what you've implied in your example!
@CrapsGoodxD
@CrapsGoodxD 10 күн бұрын
@@CommanderMechanic every echoes resolution of ulalek needs to be paid you mean? And if the first line is static the second is surely a trigger, which can be copied? and also when a copied ulalek resolves does it not copy this other ulalek trigger, since it sees it as another instance of a trigger and not himself? Can multiple echoes of eternity also not double the copying of a spell cast trigger (second effect) from the other copy of echoes of eternity as implied above (since it also changes the outcome of another noncolered permanent, which should be the other copies of echoes)
@CrapsGoodxD
@CrapsGoodxD 10 күн бұрын
making it still very loopable, if not infinite if there would be infite mana from I guess basalt monolith + forsaken monument
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 9 күн бұрын
You'll need to pay for each trigger, but if you can find a way to do that then yes it's loopable. The copied Ulalek triggers are the naked trigger, not the paid versions. And yes the second ability on Echoes is triggered and can be copied!
@andrewenns1884
@andrewenns1884 8 күн бұрын
where the heck are you seeing zhulodok for $30? Everywhere I look its either out of stock or over $100
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 8 күн бұрын
Idk what you’re talking about
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 8 күн бұрын
Oh, I’m talking about the single not the precon
@robertotenreiro
@robertotenreiro 9 күн бұрын
thought this was a lore video...
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 9 күн бұрын
Sorry, Ulalek has combined 5 lines of lore total!
@roland2864
@roland2864 10 күн бұрын
Your list needs more ramp and ways to cheat out expensive eldrazi. Why no natures lore or cultivate?
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 10 күн бұрын
Because there are no lands with forest land types.
@richardmason2116
@richardmason2116 9 күн бұрын
Where are you getting your lore from, it's completely false. Ulalek happened when Ulamog and Kozilek breached a plane at the same exact place and time and it fused their avatars. It says so in the lore page that the deck comes with.
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 9 күн бұрын
That particular lore wasn't available at the time the video was created!
@Dclem742
@Dclem742 9 күн бұрын
@@CommanderMechanic how long ago did you make this video then? It's been out for three weeks and this information on the lore has been available that long...
@Dclem742
@Dclem742 9 күн бұрын
That's not the lore of Ulalek at all. If you read the insert that comes with the deck (that's also on Ulalek's wiki) "Ulalek is what happens when two Eldrazi titans dip into a plane at the same location from the Blind Eternities. An amalgamation of Ulamog and Kozilek lineages, Ulalek's presence amplifies both the innate tendencies of Ulamog spawn to warp physical properties and Kozilek spawn to warp reality.[2] Its influence on a plane is constantly shifting as if the substance of its being is constantly in flux. Ulalek has only ever appeared once, on a plane that has long since been reduced to a drained husk and whose name has faded from memory.[1] Since then, it is unknown if Ulalek as a being still exists, or if it came apart once the aspects of Ulamog and Kozilek that made it up withdrew back into the Blind Eternities."
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 8 күн бұрын
sorry that lore/insert was not available when this video was written. I only had what was available from WOTC staff at the time.
@Dclem742
@Dclem742 8 күн бұрын
@@CommanderMechanic I commented on another reply you wrote but I’m genuinely curious; how long does it take you to make a video like this? Not trying to criticize, I just wanted to know what the turnaround for a short video like this is
@Dclem742
@Dclem742 9 күн бұрын
Cutting Wastescape Battlemage is a bad recommendation. The deck has very little interaction and if you double kick it, AND copy it with Ulalek, you can naturalize two things and bounce two things for 7 mana. That's pretty good
@CommanderMechanic
@CommanderMechanic 9 күн бұрын
A card that is good IF conditions are met is worse than a card that is good WHEN you draw it.
@Dclem742
@Dclem742 9 күн бұрын
@@CommanderMechanic you just described basically every piece of removal ever. Cutting interaction because it may not have any targets at the time you draw it is such a bad take
@help85t65
@help85t65 3 күн бұрын
Man’s crypt, man’s vault, mana drain
@help85t65
@help85t65 3 күн бұрын
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