We play with the Commodore 128 and a 1571 disk drive. #retrocomputers #retrogaming #commodore128
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@BilHerd6 ай бұрын
LOL... We included spider eggs, nasty ones, but I assume that they, and their children, are long dead. WOOT! How much do I owe you? Also I didn't know if the RF modulator actually worked, your the first I have seen to use it. XP Now if I could just remember where I have seen that keyboard layout before... :P
@gklinger6 ай бұрын
Taylor and Amy make a video about the Commodore 128 and along comes the guy who designed the computer. We are living in magical times,.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Looool. You like how we just talk to you like you are there?
@BilHerd6 ай бұрын
A little spooky, every time you said the name my cat would look at me as if to say that I had unfinished business to deal with.. @@fractalMD So glad no wig!
@BilHerd6 ай бұрын
Rewatching now, smilin big. Will pass onto the team of very excellent people. :D @@fractalMD
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
@@BilHerd We *nearly* trotted out the wig. It was a close thing.
@mike_pena6 ай бұрын
As a kid, I always wanted to have a C128 after my Plus/4. Thirty years later I finally have one! Love your videos!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
DREAM ACHIEVED!!!!
@Aerojet016 ай бұрын
I'm glad you eventually brought one. In recent years, I brought a few computers I always wanted when I was a kid. I see them as collector's items.
@damianscott4316 ай бұрын
Your 1541 can be saved ... the likely culprit for putting on a fireworks display and letting out the magic smoke is C15 a 10uf 25v Tantalium capacitor (from the front of the drive, this is located on the right hand side of the PCB closest to the front) . Good Luck!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
I think you are right. There is a very crispy capacitor.
@ActionRetro6 ай бұрын
CP/M, the OS for distinguished connoisseurs
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
PINKY OUT!
@mxg756 ай бұрын
Because the 40 and 80 column video signals are generated by two different chips using different APIs, it's technically possible to use both simultaneously in a dual monitor setup. Attack of the Petscii Robots has gameplay on the 40 column VIC II monitor and a map on the 80 column VDC monitor.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Badass
@lovemadeinjapan2 ай бұрын
Utterly stupid. Get a CPC 6128 instead. Much nicer machine.
@TheREALJosephTurner5 ай бұрын
I remember when the magazines had pages of programs you could type in. Typing in those hundreds of peek/poke numbers was maddening. Get just ONE digit wrong, and your eyes would cross trying to find where you made the mistake!
@fractalMD5 ай бұрын
Oh yeah. TOTAL insanity.
@Commodore128Mode36 ай бұрын
Congratulations on obtaining the greatest 8 bit computer of all time! I still feel equally excited every time I set my own Commodore 128 up.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
We are fans!
@another39976 ай бұрын
Yes, but congratulations on getting the C128 too. It's a pity they couldn't show the best 8 bit of all time as well. 😂
@GarthBeagle6 ай бұрын
1:09 "🎶8502 🎶 ..we're not doing that" Love the SID music!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
😂
@VeronicaExplains6 ай бұрын
This might be my favorite computer. Three in one!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
It really is pretty damn cool! And when you talk to Bil Herd in your video and he up and answers... AND Veronica makes a lovely comment... Peak retro? 😃
@lovemadeinjapan2 ай бұрын
All 3 flawed. The C128 is a mess. I still have it cause it looks cool as tapestry on the wall.
@davidkudrav70186 ай бұрын
“So much power!” “So much brick.” I died. 😂😂
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Sup Kudrav!
@CoCoNutBob5 ай бұрын
lol... So many more levels of truth in that statement than they even realized! 😂
@bretlinden82486 ай бұрын
I'm 1:30 in, and I just wanted to pause and say how excited I am to watch the rest. I grew up in some poverty, but I had some friends that had the C64 and would occasionally take pity on me and let me play with theirs. However through all my friends, and even my school, I never got to see a C128 live and in person. So, this should be interesting and educational for me.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
❤
@BobIrving25 ай бұрын
Wonderful! I loved my 128 for the 80 column mode word for word processing. Even used *WordStar* on CP/M. Good times! Thanks for being awesome.
@fractalMD5 ай бұрын
Thank YOU for being awesome!
@hobsonbeeman75292 ай бұрын
This was back when computer users did a lot more than just turn it on and browse the internet. I used to spend a lot of late nights working on the Commodore 128 with 1571 drives and a Jiffy DOS module and installed case switch to toggle between Basic 7.0 and Jiffy DOS, it was a lot of fun!!!
@fractalMD2 ай бұрын
Not *nearly* as much tinkering these days.
@derekchristenson5711Ай бұрын
Your excitement over seeing the A> prompt appear on a Commodore 128 was similar to mine when I first got CP/M booting on my Apple IIe with Z80 co-processor card. 🙂 After a lifetime of associating that kind of command line with IBM compatibles (and later), seeing it on a machine with a 6502 main CPU is somehow very novel.
@fractalMDАй бұрын
Totally agree!
@allenhalsted48956 ай бұрын
Such a great way to start the week, thank you!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
CRUSHING THIS MONDAY!
@zh846 ай бұрын
I remember at the local university's open day playing "Star Trek" on a terminal attached to a VAX minicomputer. That took me back... On another note, does Amy ever actually look through her spectacles? I've only seen them on her forehead, never over her eyes ;-)
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Mostly keeps back my 8 tons of hair, but I do wear them in space space shuttle in space from space one. Space.
@darioperezdario2638Ай бұрын
I just happened to find this video from your girls channel and I loved it. I am convinced that the Commodore 128 is a little-known and underrated computer today. I love it. I discovered it a few years ago, and I loved it when they managed to run CP/M 80 on that Commodore 128. Try running GEOS for C128. It's slow but interesting.
@fractalMDАй бұрын
We will!
@bobtherieau60866 ай бұрын
Hands down, this is your finest 8502/Z80 episode ever. A masterwork!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
**chef's kiss**
@JamiesHackShack6 ай бұрын
Fun one! Cool to see the excitement of booting up cpm on it. 😀
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
The most excited anyone has ever gotten about cpm, lol.
@treyduval539916 күн бұрын
Great show, im subscribed! I had a C128 and never really used the CP/M mode, but booted into C64 mode a LOT for the games! Didn’t know there was a Star Trek game!
@CheshireNoir6 ай бұрын
Your excitement with the new toy comes through the screen so well 🙂 Yay Commodore 128! There are a handful of C128 specific programs, but most seem to be business applications, which probably explains why my C128 sits on the shelf most of the time.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
The C64 mode is def clutch.
@BenInSeattle6 ай бұрын
Yup, not much available. There was Zork, of course. There was also Smallterm, a C128 mode program which lets you download CP/M software and write it directly to a CP/M disk. Or, you could use DESterm to login to a UNIX box and run TREK in glorious ASCII at 1200 Baud.
@marksuper49206 ай бұрын
Hooray!! My favorite computer!! When i was a kid, my dad bought a 128 from an unclaimed freight / salvage store after our C64 stopped working. The c128 has some cool features like its 'advanced sound and music' in basic - I hope you enjoy it! Also, if the disk is formatted right, the 1571 can read both sides without taking it out and flipping it!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
We are totally enjoying it!
@barryon87063 ай бұрын
The computer I have the fondest memories of, by far.
@fractalMD2 ай бұрын
It's a beaut!
@SanityClauseUK6 ай бұрын
Let's go, a new episode! I love your videos so much, keep them coming!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Awe, thanks!
@SimonJustesen6 ай бұрын
Yay! I remember a childhood friend who got a C128. I'm pretty certain he used it in 64-mode, like... 90% of the time Was PacMan really this noisy?! Wow.. I don't recall that🤣
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
I can totally see how that would be the case.
@AlanGrassia6 ай бұрын
Sorry to hear about the Magic Smoke, but WOW! You got it working *with* the disk drive. Very cool. Awesome video!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Thx!!!!
@delor36175 ай бұрын
I had a permanent smile on my face for 18 minutes while watching this video😄
@fractalMD5 ай бұрын
That makes ME smile. 😀
@mogwaay6 ай бұрын
Ha haa, loved Amy backing up before drive no.2 way switched on 😂
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Fool me once....
@EricsEdgeVideos6 ай бұрын
I’m so geeked that you are so geeked about CP/M. One of the programing environments on my bucket list! And, bring on the rap!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Woo! Eric, do NOT tempt us.
@EricsEdgeVideos6 ай бұрын
@@fractalMD consider yourselves tempted
@Chris.Wiley.6 ай бұрын
Yay! Another episode of the Taylor and Amy Show!!!!!!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Rejoice!
@svenvandevelde16 ай бұрын
Thank you for showing CP/M. This machine is part of my youth. Thanks for bringing the C128 alive again in a fun way.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
So much fun!
@USBMEDICMalcolmScole5 ай бұрын
I remember the smell of the fresh openbox ....... sold a lot . . . great keyboard loved my speccy....and its little interupt button......FREEZE time for a coffee
@fractalMD5 ай бұрын
And the manual smell!
@GeoffSeeley6 ай бұрын
CP/M was never going to work on that 1541 anyway 🙂 The 1571 was pretty unique in that it could read both GCR and MFM disk formats, the former was Commodore and the later CP/M and other PC formats.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
It was also very explode-y.
@BilHerd6 ай бұрын
LOL... I forgot that. Kudos Greg Berlin.
@NeverlandSystemPunkGirlChloe5 ай бұрын
OMG I LOVE your vids. This is all stuff like so not even "late" last century and so beyond my imagination... but you two ladies make it SOOOOOOO fun and interesting. I love this ancient tech stuff- how did you like get on the internet with a computer this slow or primitive? (total GenZ troll joke, of course! LOL)... Seriously though... LOVE this cool retro tech stuff and your presentation. I learn so much.
@fractalMD5 ай бұрын
Excellent!
@joelavcoco6 ай бұрын
"A legitimate A: prompt..."
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
RIGHT?!!?
@PunmasterSTP6 ай бұрын
The C64 and C128 were a bit before my time, but it's always fun seeing old hardware get explored!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
And a good time was had by all!
@chrissimpson11836 ай бұрын
You let the magic smoke out!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
And it was STINKY
@chrissimpson11836 ай бұрын
@@fractalMD I bet!
@sd22576 ай бұрын
Awesome those 8 bit computers were so popular in the day
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
It's a solid little machine :)
@AddieDirectsTV6 ай бұрын
12:15 y’all are so damn adorable 😊
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
😊
@Aerojet016 ай бұрын
I like your videos and the sharp humour. The 128 was a good idea on paper, but around that time, people were gradually buying an ST, Amiga etc... Also, the business market was very competitive, with machines with higher specs. Then there were so many IBM clones. It's great to see the 128 in action. Thanks :)
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@mzody6 ай бұрын
While I'm an Atari guy, I was still smiling and giggling the whole way through this.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
😃😃😃
@David_Ladd5 ай бұрын
Nice find ladies :D Most people used the Commodore 128 in Commodore 64 mode. The box is in really nice condition too!
@fractalMD5 ай бұрын
David Ladd!
@David_Ladd5 ай бұрын
@@fractalMD You rang madam! :D
@fractalMD5 ай бұрын
@@David_Ladd Woo!
@no1leader1356 ай бұрын
First thing I do, if I start in the 80 columns mode - typing "fast" to switch the CPU in 2 MHz mode. 😁 You can you use dual monitors. Start in 40 columns mode and then type "graphic 5" to switch the output t0 80 colmuns screen. Now you can program and using the basic 7.0 commands: 10 graphic 1 : rem set 40 col to graphic mode 20 circle 1,50,50,50 : rem make a circle Great video! 😀 P.S.: To use CP/M you have to use a 1570 (only one side) or 1571 (two sides) or 1581. And the best command: GO64
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
PRO TIPS!
@IsaacKuo6 ай бұрын
I love that Star Trek game, and it was awesome to see Taylor completely obliterate that Klingon starship right away! There were a lot of different versions of the classic Star Trek on the C64. I tried to program one in BASIC from vague memories, but it was not very good. Still, it's a fun programming project!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Never seen this version and it's pretty neat.
@chrissimpson11836 ай бұрын
The C=128 case is almost Amiga like.
@zh846 ай бұрын
Exactly what I thought. I wonder if they reused the moulds?
@chrissimpson11836 ай бұрын
@@zh84 To save money
@madigorfkgoogle93496 ай бұрын
actually, Amiga 500 case is almost C128 like.
@juhojohansson17165 ай бұрын
@@zh84as similar as it is, no... It was a styling thing. Amigas have the 3,5" disk drives integrated and everything.
@zh845 ай бұрын
@@juhojohansson1716 Thank you.
@timothyp89476 ай бұрын
Soon after leaving school, my best friend from school got himself a C128 to replace his Acorn Electron. Don’t think at the time I’d have swapped it for my beloved Plus/4 even though the C128 was more capable. It did mean he could nab some of the BASIC programs I’d written.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
I also want that Acorn.
@floydjohnson78886 ай бұрын
I was under the impression that the C128 marked the end of Commodore's 8-bit era, with the Amiga line set to take center stage.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
8 bit Era is forever!😊
@IsaacKuo6 ай бұрын
BTW, you can use dual monitors, switching freely between using the 40 column screen and 80 column screen. It's great for programming, since you can have one screen with your code while running the program on your other screen.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Don't it at the same time was what we couldn't parse.
@IsaacKuo6 ай бұрын
@@fractalMD To switch to the 40 column screen, type in "graphic0" or "gR0". To switch to the 80 column screen, type in "graphic5" or "gR5". It's not as convenient as just pressing that 40/80 column key. Oh well!
@Florin766 ай бұрын
When Commodore wanted to put everything in the same product, 3 computers in 1, but they missed the target! The main drawback of the C128 is that the C128 mode is a different machine, with a video chip less powerful than the VIC2, lacking sprites and is incompatible with the C64 software. The C128 mode is like a Plus4 with 80 columns mode and 128K of RAM. Weird machine that didn't convinced.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
I like to think of it as a turducken you can retrobright.
@BilHerd5 ай бұрын
Actually same VIC chip at all times (40 col), and there are sprite and sound commands built into Basic!
@AddieDirectsTV6 ай бұрын
5:27 that was an aggressive punch of Run/Stop
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
It needs to know who is boss
@AddieDirectsTV6 ай бұрын
@@fractalMD hahahahhahaha
@DJTI996 ай бұрын
You did a thing!!!!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
We totally did a thing!
@lurkerrekrul6 ай бұрын
Unless I'm mistaken, I think pretty much all the Commodore floppy drives are compatible with all the various Commodore systems. The 1571 is a double-sided drive, so it has heads on the top and bottom, which come together on each side of the disk when you turn the latch. The fake disk is there to make sure that the heads don't hit each other. Actually, all the Commodore floppy drives came with at least a cardboard disk in them. I never had smoke come out of a floppy drive, but typically the first thing I do before trying one, is to open it up and clean the heads, They can tend to accumulate gunk off the disk. As for the monitor connection, I don't know about the C128 as I never had one, but on the C64, the monitor connection was basically S-Video. If I recall correctly, my 1080 monitor only had RGB and separated composite inputs. I don't remember what it was from, but I had a cable with a DIN plug on each end that fit the monitor port. I cut the other end off and connected the appropriate wires to three phono plugs. That gave a great picture with the C64. Of course I used that monitor primarily on the Amiga with the RGB input. The Star Trek alien race is pronounced Or-gain-nee-ans. They appeared in the 26th episode of the first season of the show. They appeared to be a simple, helpless people, but they were really quite powerful and forced a truce between the Klingons and the Federation. If you liked that Star Trek game, there are other versions of it on the C64. One is a little more graphically polished, one has a manual docking with a starbase, etc. The most polished version is Space: The Ultimate Frontier, which is an unlicensed clone. It's like a more advanced version, but without the Star Trek license. BTW, you probably know this, but you can get a USB interface that will let you read from and write to a Commodore floppy drive using a modern computer. You can then download games off the net, write them to real floppies and load them on your C64 or C128. The only downside is that a lot of stuff is meant for PAL regions (UK, Europe) and may either not work correctly on an NTSC (American) machine, or even not work at all.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Nice! Thanks for all that good info!!!
@jeffreydurham53425 ай бұрын
Wow! I bought one of these when they were first available. Also had a 64 and a plus4
@fractalMD5 ай бұрын
Niiiice!
@arntfu6 ай бұрын
Simply the koolest komputer from Commodore, and I think you ought to try playing "Volley for Two" on it. It's great fun!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Oh cool
@ChrisMasto6 ай бұрын
That is my favorite computer of all time. I really wish I’d hung on to mine. (And if you ever want to unload that thing, I’m there!)
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
We'll keep you in mind. The Lab is not as Tardis like as one would hope.
@Mark-pr7ug5 ай бұрын
Would love to see these two gorgeous ladies unbox an Amstrad CPC 464 home computer.
@fractalMD5 ай бұрын
Indeed! We need one!
@cpm10036 ай бұрын
"Time Elapses" LOL!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Boy does it.
@chrissimpson11836 ай бұрын
A real manual, nice...
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
We love a real deal you can hold it in your hand manual.
@tonycosta33026 ай бұрын
You should do an episode on GEOS. I always thought it was underrated and overshadowed by the Amiga and Atari ST. But for an 8bit GUI, it was pretty good. Im curious how it compares to the Apple IIgs GUI.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Hey, always on the look out for new video ideas.
@brendanstone30735 ай бұрын
@@fractalMD There's a video called "Commodore 128D GEOS Battle Station" that may give you some ideas! Also, it's worth testing how the new "C64OS" works on the C128! Something I haven't seen much of! In addition to the dual-screen "Petscii Robots" mentioned in another comment, the freeware new "Eye of the Beholder" port for C64 runs better in a C128. Also, it's dual-screen! Those are probably the most C128-optimized games.
@xd3viant6 ай бұрын
You two are dream girls. Y'all are the cat's pajamas, the literal knees of bees. I would totally call your BBS if ya had one. Just saying. 🤓
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
We totally need a BBS.
@shawnerz986 ай бұрын
In 1997, I had one. I had it for several years, but then got rid of it. In the 2010's, I grew nostalgic and bought another (probably from eBay). It started having random halt and reboot issues. Probably a bad cap on the motherboard. I ended up getting rid of that one too. I guess it's time to find another, eh? ;)
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Yes!!!
@chrissimpson11836 ай бұрын
I remember that ST game is got very hard quick.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
It's pretty cool!
@commodorechronicles6 ай бұрын
Yay! It's my favorite ladies of retro! With a C128! Serendipitous!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Woooooo!
@RetroTechChris6 ай бұрын
Nice! I just can't keep up with all of these cool Commodores! But they are keeping up with me.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
I mean, they don't even NEED us, lol.
@thegabe45696 ай бұрын
Your episodes openings are epic 😎
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
😎😎😎😎😎
@osgnuru3 ай бұрын
I so badly wanted one. I still do. My hope for a VR afterlife is to code on a C128.
@fractalMD2 ай бұрын
In every life! 🤣
@brianwieseler59386 ай бұрын
Isn’t it fun when you see something work for the first time.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Shoot yeah!
@LasseHuhtala6 ай бұрын
That was so my dream computer back in the day, which I could never afford.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
It's not too late!!
@LasseHuhtala6 ай бұрын
@@fractalMDI've had a few since then, but Amigas were my main drug. I think I've had over 20. (I'm back down to 2 now so I'm okay.)
@megatech19666 ай бұрын
I had a C128 back in the 90’s. Sold it to get an Amiga. Just recently got a C128 again. I love it. Installed c0pperdragon component upgrade to get jailbar free 40 column. I also got RGB2HDMI TTL for 80 column. Works well.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Is it weird that I like the jailbars?
@megatech19666 ай бұрын
@@fractalMD yes. Extremely 😂
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
@@megatech1966 😫
@TheREALJosephTurner5 ай бұрын
Oh, and I vote yes for the 128 song being the next music video.
@fractalMD5 ай бұрын
I'll add it to the tally! Z80 ppl are making the most noise, i think, lol.
@tomleech97536 ай бұрын
0 spiders. Already disappointed. :)
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Next time!
@gkwgeek45095 ай бұрын
dat refresh rate on the commodore monitor
@fractalMD5 ай бұрын
I know!!!!!
@davidstechlab6 ай бұрын
I liked that Batman speed run.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
When Taylor said, "I'm batman" I lost it.
@orangetiki6 ай бұрын
Save the 1541! You only need to replace a capacitor
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
It is saved!
@RetroTechorDie6 ай бұрын
Great machine!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Sooooo great
@juhojohansson17165 ай бұрын
One thing worth pointing out is, when powering on an untested C64 or C128 is to check the health of your power brick... The reason why it is so important, is because the way the "brick" works, is there is a good ol' coil transformer, wich is basically eternal, wich is good. But that outputs 9 VAC, and the 64 & 128 need 9 VAC. But most of the electronics is povered by 5 VDC and the way the brick does this is it has (obviously) a rectifier to make the AC to DC and then a voltage regulator of sort to adjust the voltage down to nice and smooth ('ish, hopefully)... But if (and when) the regulator fails, it often basically shorts out... And with a shorted out regulator the brick will be pushing 10 volts down the 5 volt line, wich can fry a whole bunch of chips in a hurry. And unfortunately the Commodore PSU's really don't have much (any) safety features... So I really recommend people, if you are going to use original PSU's, do check them and adding some safety devices (like fuse and overvoltage protection) is a good practice.
@fractalMD5 ай бұрын
Well said
@BilHerd5 ай бұрын
@@fractalMD The C64 supply is absolutely a landmine as it fails in a way that gates 8-9V to the chips! The C128, being a switcher, usually just fails inert.
@fractalMD5 ай бұрын
@@BilHerd duuuuuude!
@BilHerd5 ай бұрын
BTW my plan is to introduce you to the designer of the Commodore Power Supply at VCF East. (Yar!) He also did the VIC chips, the C64 design and something with Ensoniq... @@fractalMD
@ahc23696 ай бұрын
Love the floppy drive software! My first computer ONLY had two 5 1/4 floppy drives. No hard drive at all. Super powerful!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Taylor still has her Tandy EX which was unburdened with a pesky hard drive.
@ahc23696 ай бұрын
Oh, the freedom of those salad years!@@fractalMD
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
SALAD DAYS OF YORE
@AddieDirectsTV6 ай бұрын
5:50 is baby Commodore!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
👶
@jamesross39396 ай бұрын
In the past .... when the earth was cooling!!! hahaha! good one!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
😅
@ThetaReactor6 ай бұрын
Is it bad that I always see y'all as a hip-hop duo? Like, Taylor is the MC and Amy is the hype man. Let's start a gofundme to get Amy a giant Pulsar LED watch pendant.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
YES PLEASE
@Otakunopodcast6 ай бұрын
There is a way to use both video chips on the C128 simultaneously, though I have no idea how to do it. The Commdore 128 version of Attack of the PETSCII Robots displays the game on one screen and it also draws an overview map on the other screen that updates live as you play the game.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Niiiiiice
@gertk23036 ай бұрын
🤣 not bitten by spiders but stung by the 'mains filter capacitors on fire' bug... Happened to me last week with a BBC computer.. It stinks...
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Ooouuuuch
@tonycosta33026 ай бұрын
Wasn’t the C64 basic never updated because Tramiel was too cheap to pay MS for a newer version? He apparently got a great deal on a one-time, unlimited use license from MS.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
For real?
@tonycosta33026 ай бұрын
@@fractalMD From Wikipedia: "Commodore licensed BASIC from Microsoft in 1977 on a "pay once, no royalties" basis after Jack Tramiel turned down Bill Gates' offer of a $3 per unit fee, stating, "I'm already married," and would pay no more than $25,000 for a perpetual license." I believe the C64 sold around 18 million units over its lifetime, making that the deal of the century.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
@@tonycosta3302 Noice
@Lofote5 ай бұрын
In fact the C128s two video chips can operate at the same time. Just press ESC X (thats first pressing ESC, then letting go, then press X, not press ESC+X together .. yes it is strange ;) ), then the cursor will appear on the other screen ;)... Some games like PETSCII ROBOTS 128 do use both at the same time.
@fractalMD5 ай бұрын
Which is a capability that just seems wild for the time!
@awilliams17016 ай бұрын
oh look at that a space and rocket center shirt!!! (I drive by there a lot). I live in huntsville.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Fellow Alabamian!
@awilliams17016 ай бұрын
@@fractalMD I'm from Ohio I only live in Alabama. Lol
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
@awilliams1701 It's okay, I forgive you!
@speedbird7376 ай бұрын
oh no Taylor/Amy !!! you didn't type in GO64 !!!!or power on whilst holding down the commodore key!!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Noooooooooooo
@solarbirdyz6 ай бұрын
so much power SO MUCH BRICK I loved my C128. 80 column plus FAST mode was the best thing in the world, particularly for GEOS but not just. I was so mad at all the terrible terminal emulation software (most of which didn't even do 80 columns, and that which did couldn't manage 1200 baud. So I decided to write something to demonstrate the C128 in FAST mode could manage 1200 baud in uncompiled BASIC... and succeeded. It got published. :D Also also you can totally use both 40 and 80 column displays at the same time. From BASIC even. Maybe not with the RF modulator but with luma/chroma and 9-pin output at once. CP/M for the 128 wasn't bad. It was slower than the Z80 would lead you to believe because it could only access memory at 2mhz. With a 1571, you could also read and write Kaypro diskettes (and run most of the software), and several other CP/M formats as well, like the Osborne, I think? And maybe some others. But the Kaypro format support was what mattered for CP/M.
@solarbirdyz6 ай бұрын
There are also at least two versions of the C128 onboard ROMs, and the easiest way to tell them apart is whether CAPS LOCK works on the letter Q. Version 1: it does not. Version 2: it does. It also fixes some other bugs. I think there's also a ROM upgrade for the early 1571 which improves its behaviour and speed as well, though.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
I mean this stuff is CUH RAY ZEE.
@solarbirdyz6 ай бұрын
if by crazy you mean awesome xD depending on the C128 you also have either 16K or 64K of separate video RAM for the 80 column mode. With 16K it can do 640x200 monochrome graphics, with 64K it can do 640x400! And the 16K versions are upgradeable! But 640x400 is interlaced so does not look so great and 640x200 was good enough for GEOS. @@fractalMD
@MrRac20102 ай бұрын
Mi primer ordenador fue ese! C128 Saludos
@fractalMDАй бұрын
Nice!
@ferndog14616 ай бұрын
How to we spread to this enthusiasm ? Enjoy the retro talk.
@@fractalMD Oh, you were agreeing with me? Damn right! 😃
@CronoCloudAuron5 ай бұрын
If you have any kaypro software disks, cp/m on the 128 can read them, and other cp/m formats too. The 128 wil run software slower than other cp/m machines though.
@fractalMD5 ай бұрын
Time to break out the Mandelbrot set!
@IsaacKuo6 ай бұрын
I still have not yet cracked open my C128's CP/M floppy sticker either.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Nice
@ApolloVIIIYouAreGoForTLI6 ай бұрын
Nerd Queens return!
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
BEHOLD!
@awilliams17016 ай бұрын
the vic 2 output port should have the same pinnout as the C64. So if you have a C64 AV cable that should work.
@awilliams17016 ай бұрын
...I think
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Just no more magic smoke is all I ask!
@IsaacKuo6 ай бұрын
You're correct. It's also the same as on the Commodore 16 and Plus/4.
@lsdowdle6 ай бұрын
Oh look, it's yet another system that is avalable on the MiSTer FPGA. :)
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
Lol! Love it.
@BilHerd6 ай бұрын
With Jailbars option!@@fractalMD
@awilliams17016 ай бұрын
The native output wont' do both monitors at the same time, but the hardware can. It's just not programmed that way. I believe there is some software that does, but not very much.
@fractalMD6 ай бұрын
That's how it seemed. So cool.
@EricsEdgeVideos6 ай бұрын
Commodore 128 Rap Clap your hands everybody, and everybody clap your hands! We're The Taylor and Amy Show with... The Commodore 128 We come here on stage tonight to do a show that’s great We've got a rockin rhythm and a high tech sound That'll make you move your body down to the ground We've got CP/M on the 128 And BASIC will be joinin' in We've got Bill Hurd on a mean keyboard And a rap to record We've got Zork, Ultima, and Trek, you can’t go wrong Blinky, Pinky, Inky, and Clyde are chomping along And just when you thought you'd seen it all Along comes a joystick 4 ft tall! So won't you come on out here, on the floor, so we can work our bodies like never before Break!