Commodore MPS-801 Printer Restoration

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Jan Beta

Jan Beta

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I'm taking a look at a Commodore MPS-801 dot matrix printer today. // Kindly sponsored by PCBWay - Get your first PCBs free! - www.pcbway.com/
MPS-801 Technical Manual: www.zimmers.net/anonftp/pub/cb...
TIME STAMPS:
0:00 Introduction
1:57 Sponsor Message
2:27 Inspecting the Unit
5:03 Self Test
7:35 Mechanics
7:47 Refilling Ink
15:48 Disassembly
19:14 Cleaning the Case
20:09 Retrobrighting
22:35 Moar Cleaning
23:34 The Electronics
24:05 Lubrication
24:41 Retrobrighting Results
26:24 Reassembly
27:41 Testing
32:03 Thank you & Good night
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@BasicBitesCA
@BasicBitesCA 2 жыл бұрын
It's nice to see a Commodore PRINTER taking front & centre -- either you're nostalgic about the sound of a dot matrix head, or you never want to hear it again! I was laughing during your re-inking effort with the sponges, because it reminded me of a seemingly ridiculous hack that we used in a zero-budget computer lab running dot matrix printers in the 1990s (and when I say zero budget, I mean none for cartridges OR ink). We would grab the nearest black ball-point pen, remove the ink cartridge and cut the ball point off, effectively making a straw filled with ink. You would put the top end between your lips and slowly blow all the ink out onto the ribbon while turning the knob to run it through its loop. No mess, and surprisingly effective. I can't attest to pen ink being good for the print head in the long run -- but I don't recall our printers ever breaking down, either.
@dnwheeler
@dnwheeler 3 жыл бұрын
There's a lever inside on the left side (in front of the paper) that you can adjust to move the head and ribbon away from the paper. This may help reduce the smearing.
@pickoftheglitter
@pickoftheglitter 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. I believe it should also help to prevent the 40 years old head to break.
@SomePeopleCallMeWulfman
@SomePeopleCallMeWulfman 3 жыл бұрын
"Near Letter Qualitiy" means the printer will produce something that nearly resembles letters.
@djctech2586
@djctech2586 3 жыл бұрын
On Epson, NLQ would print each line twice, in the same direction and with miniscule changes. It was much slower, but absolutely worth the time.
@hydraulic_bat
@hydraulic_bat 3 жыл бұрын
This puts me waaay back. We had a MPS-801 in school back in the days. My first printer experience. Later I owned a MPS-1200. The sound of those printers is unmatched. * swrrreeeet*swrrreeeet*swrrreeeet*swwwt*swwwt*swwwt*krrrllt * ( * print*print*print*feed*feed*feed*jam * 😆 )
@kayeven7963
@kayeven7963 3 жыл бұрын
If I remember right, I had an Epson connected to my good old Atari ST during my studies. I nicknamed it "Nadelfräse", in english "needle milling machine", because of the infernal noises it made. And nowadays we still use a dot matrix printer to print out the messages from our process control system in a waste water treatment facility.
@NorbertHarrer
@NorbertHarrer 3 жыл бұрын
Haha. Nadelfräse is a great word to describe it. My old Espon LX-800 did sound a bit like a Kreissäge.
@mountainpeakonline
@mountainpeakonline 3 жыл бұрын
Jan, you can also adjust the printhead. There is a lever at the left site. 😊
@Grim-oc9fw
@Grim-oc9fw 3 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t work, try again. I have 10 of these in a chain I use to this day to print a news letter for me town in dunmarkish.
@R.Daneel
@R.Daneel 2 жыл бұрын
@@Grim-oc9fw It does. It stops the smearing of the ribbon against the paper. I just dusted off my printer in test mode and confirmed. All the way in and the ribbon rubs a line on the paper. A few notches back and it stops. Doesn't seem to do anything to the printed characters - it's just ribbon clearance.
@8_Bit
@8_Bit 3 жыл бұрын
Nice job. The MPS-801 has gradually become my favourite-looking of all the Commodore printers. Something about the chunky design.
@JanBeta
@JanBeta 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I like the design, too! It says 80s in so many ways but it's still rather elegant. :)
@GuentherB.
@GuentherB. 3 жыл бұрын
Tolle Vorstellung dieses uralten Druckers. Dieser Drucker wurde damals für viele verschiedene Home Computer hergestellt. Deshalb auch die einfach nur eingeschobene Elektronikplatine, die auch das Interface beinhaltet. Eine sehr effektive Bauweise. Sehr interessant fand ich schon damals, dass der Druckkopf mit einem einfachen Federwerk zurückgezogen wurde. Damit das ordentlich funktioniert, muss die Führungsstange des Schlittens leicht gefettet/geölt sein. Die Farbbandkassetten lassen sich übrigens öffnen und im innern ist ein Rolle, die mit Tinte getränkt werden kann und die nach und nach die Tinte an das Farbband abgibt. Damit lässt sich auch das Problem des Schmierens auf dem Papier vermeiden. Einige Druckermodelle hatten zusätzlich auch eine Verstellvorrichtung, womit der Abstand des Druckkopfs zum Papier geringfügig verändert werden konnte. Bei Deinem Gerät sind das auf der rechten Steite diese im Bogen angeorneten Löcher im Chassis. Allerdings ist die Verstellung bei Deinem Gerät nicht bestückt.
@ojkolsrud1
@ojkolsrud1 3 жыл бұрын
One very nice thing about the old printers having their own ROM (and I guess a sort of processor), is that they don't require any drivers to work. The computer just outputs data to the printer, and it takes care of all the printing itself.
@marcseclecticstuff9497
@marcseclecticstuff9497 5 ай бұрын
This was my first printer too! The trick on these ink cartridges was to open them up and spray the ribbon with WD-40. It would thin the ink a bit and it would redistribute across the cloth and help fill in the depleted center section. I would do it a number of times and it still worked OK. If it got too light then I'd use inkpad ink to replenish it. The limiting factor was the ribbon itself would get worn-out from the pins hitting it and start wearing holes in it. Cheap aftermarket ribbons usually wore out much faster compared to the OEM ones. Still have my 801, just no continuous form paper to use.
@ncscarecrow
@ncscarecrow 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Jan Beta!!! I'm looking forward to a video of the capacitor replacement in the future.
@westelaudio943
@westelaudio943 3 жыл бұрын
Cap replacement is probably unnecessary.
@user-rv9vw5ef9e
@user-rv9vw5ef9e 3 жыл бұрын
Replacement on tantal, haha.
@user-rv9vw5ef9e
@user-rv9vw5ef9e 3 жыл бұрын
@@westelaudio943 it is necessary in photo flash if you need to make polarity wrong. Never saw, but read that it make flash really flash!
@pickoftheglitter
@pickoftheglitter 3 жыл бұрын
I already used stamp ink in the '80s, in order to save my little money (being a teenager, I always ran out of money those days LOL)! I use to directly add ink on the ribbon, without to use any sponge, leaving the ribbon pretty wet. You can also use ink with a different color, like blue and maybe red. Today I'm using blue ink, since it was what I had at home.
@flow221
@flow221 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, the "pleasant" sound of a dot matrix printer. Memories.
@pickoftheglitter
@pickoftheglitter 3 жыл бұрын
I just measured it with an app on my smartphone: up to 95 dB without the cover, significantly better with the cover, but still a pain in the ass... aaah, the pleasant sound of ink jet and laser printers LOL
@NorbertHarrer
@NorbertHarrer 3 жыл бұрын
I remember we once had a field trip in school to some government place (in the 80ies). And they had a dot matrix printer, which could print a whole line in one go (the print head was as wide as the page). Boy, that thing was loud - but fast. At least back then it was considered blazing fast.
@NorbertHarrer
@NorbertHarrer 3 жыл бұрын
@Moseby Hill-Relevant Awesome. Didn't know that.
@paulthurlow7906
@paulthurlow7906 3 жыл бұрын
A flood of memories came back to me. I also had same model printer with my Vic-20 back in the 80's in the UK. We are in Australia now last 30 years and I know my brother still has my old Vic in his retro computer collection. I will have to check with him to see if he also has the printer as I would love to see it again. I can't recall what happenned to it.
@JanBeta
@JanBeta 3 жыл бұрын
I can only recommend getting the printer set up. Such nostalgia! :D
@TroyKucks
@TroyKucks 3 жыл бұрын
I had the MPS-803 for my C-64 - the 803 was a smaller footprint - great video as always Jan :)
@discoHR
@discoHR 3 жыл бұрын
I have an MPS-803 on the way.
@Ragnar8504
@Ragnar8504 3 жыл бұрын
I had an 802, actually I still do, including a few NOS ribbons. Just haven't used it in a while. I bought a job lot of C64 stuff in about 1995, after our neighbours dropped off a C64 with a 1541 on our door mat. "You like old stuff, don't you?". The 802 had the major advantage of a push tractor feed instead of a pull like the 801, which means you waste a page of paper for every print job. The MPS-1000 even had a push/pull feeder IIRC. Pull was good for intricate or stiff materials like labels.
@andreasu.3546
@andreasu.3546 3 жыл бұрын
Having grown up with printers much like that MPS-801, it fills me with awe to this day each time I see a laser or ink jet printer chuck out entire pages in just seconds.
@KJohansson
@KJohansson 3 жыл бұрын
Ah! the MPS-801 my first own printer. I was just so awestruck by how futuristic it looked, sweet memories of tractor feed paper and faded ink ribbons.. :)
@JanBeta
@JanBeta 3 жыл бұрын
It is a beautiful (and noisy and slow) beast. I dearly loved it back in the day and getting one again is massively nostalgic. :)
@rad666a
@rad666a 3 жыл бұрын
Jan, you need to retro-bright your paper ;)
@WinrichNaujoks
@WinrichNaujoks 3 жыл бұрын
German Umweltschutzpapier!
@timrichter1980
@timrichter1980 3 жыл бұрын
Also universal usable as toilet paper!
@MehYam2112
@MehYam2112 3 жыл бұрын
Compliments on your profile picture
@rad666a
@rad666a 3 жыл бұрын
@@MehYam2112 And yours. ;)
@mikekopack6441
@mikekopack6441 2 жыл бұрын
Best of the commodore Printers from that generation. I got stuck with the MPs802 which was a Piece of xxxx. The 803 was pretty good as well.
@SabretoothBarnacle
@SabretoothBarnacle 3 жыл бұрын
My Seikosha SL96 is still going strong. I was lucky enough to find a new old stock colour ribbon a few years back after the old one gave up after 24 years. I wish the ink on modern printer's would last that long 🖨️😉
@JoedeLange
@JoedeLange 3 жыл бұрын
I used to have one of these and I hated it because my friends with PC's had far better printers. Now I'm obsessed with finding one. Such is life!
@markfernandes5674
@markfernandes5674 3 жыл бұрын
Ah the joys of dot matrix. I remember printer hoods used to reduce (somewhat) that noise. They still use dot matrix where they need carbon copies (on multi-part paper). I guess legally it is a carbon copy rather than alleged 2nd print of page... That's probably why you still have DMs and their supplies. Thanks for taking me back down memory lane :-)
@lukezaa10
@lukezaa10 3 жыл бұрын
I from Poland and I always looked for European equivalent of Windex. And i finally found it :)
@jeremy3998
@jeremy3998 3 жыл бұрын
My last dot matrix printer had 24 pins, did a 2 pass print putting dots between dots and it was really fast. The print quality was very good as well. I got it free from someone who upgraded to an early inkjet printer. I love the sound of them. Nice to see you restoring this one. Unfortunately old printers are a part of the retro hobby that no one really cares about. They sell for next to nothing and normally end up being thrown away.
@erickruse4679
@erickruse4679 3 жыл бұрын
The ink replenishment made me laugh. I went through many shenanigans trying to refill that ink when i was 10, so that I could continue printing huge banners for no apparent reason.
@lupedarksnout
@lupedarksnout 8 ай бұрын
The graphics print needs a few passes per line because the printer's buffer is so small. This effect is most noticeable when you print out a program listing (OPEN1,4:CMD1:LIST) because the computer basically locks up until the print is nearly complete - only then do you get READY and your cursor back. Upgrading to an MPS-1200 blew my mind. Faster, quieter, and prints in both directions! Plus the buffer was larger, so I got my cursor back sooner. But watching this video makes me want to lug the MPS-801 out of the closet and give it a go for awhile.
@macdaddyns
@macdaddyns 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the walk down memory lane. You could get a rom upgrade back in the day to print the tails, might look on archive.org for that or see if Adrian Black has a printer he could make a rom image for you. Also, there is a silver lever on the inside left of the printer to adjust the print head gap to the paper, when putting in a new ribbon, you often had to back off the gap to allow for the fuzzy goodness of a fresh ribbon. Great vid, thanks again!
@briangoldberg4439
@briangoldberg4439 3 жыл бұрын
I love how your fingers just got more and more smeared with ink over the course of the episode.
@guyh3403
@guyh3403 3 жыл бұрын
Your love for those devices makes the devices love you ;)
@JanBeta
@JanBeta 3 жыл бұрын
I hope so! :D
@Sebby_75
@Sebby_75 3 жыл бұрын
Great stuff... Acquired one of these printers in a bundle of Commodore stuff over a year ago. Came to me in original box with original receipt and warranty card. After watching your video I feel tempted to give it a bit of a clean and see if I can get it to print something...
@djctech2586
@djctech2586 3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, memories. My first printer was an Olivetti which had just one ink jet. It went back and forth eight or nine times per line of text and the registration differed a little between the directions, so any vertical line became a concertina. Unfortunately the tiny paper steps also didn't always match, so some lines (and pages) got squashed vertically. It used a fairly high voltage pulse to move the ink to the paper, which looked like a line of tiny sparks as the head moved.
@sergiopellegrini1058
@sergiopellegrini1058 3 жыл бұрын
would have killed for one of this back in the '80s
@ct92404
@ct92404 3 жыл бұрын
Dot matrix printers are definitely still in use. I've seen brand new Okidata Microline printers...and they're not cheap! I can imagine a dot matrix printer being useful for a lot of quick prints where cheaper cost is more important, like auto repair shops, doctor's offices, etc. Inkjet cartridges are expensive and add up very quickly. Dot matrix printers might be an option in that case if super high quality prints aren't needed.
@jaycee1980
@jaycee1980 3 жыл бұрын
oh man.. i do NOT miss the sound of dot matrix printers! MY school used to have BBC Micro's on trolleys, and they all had Epson FX-80 printers for printing. You could hear one printing at the other end of the school!
@JanBeta
@JanBeta 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, yes, I remember printing at school, too. The computer room was intentionally located far from the regular classrooms in my school. :)
@brianfix4404
@brianfix4404 3 жыл бұрын
One of our first networked setups at my school had a daisy wheel printer. That was really loud as well as it was more like a commercial grade "high speed" type.
@forkhandles6139
@forkhandles6139 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jan, so many memories !!!!!!
@banjobear1666
@banjobear1666 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. The sound of that printer brought back memories !
@michaelcarey
@michaelcarey 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! That sound takes me back! I've got a Commodore MPS1250 printer with a combined Centronics and Commodore interface plug in module. I could use it with my Commodore 64 AND my Amiga 500! :-)
@ImaginationToForm
@ImaginationToForm 3 жыл бұрын
I remember finally getting a dot matrix printer for my Commodore 64 and how cool it was. Was such a big game changer on writing reports. I can't remember what printer though. I was in France in 85 for my Dad's work.
@nefaurora
@nefaurora 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed this one Jan. I have an MPS 801 new in the box out in my storage shed. I have to get it out of storage and start playing with it!... Thanks for the great video!.... :)
@krnlg
@krnlg 3 жыл бұрын
Nice printer - amazing improvement from the retrobrighting!
@sma7530
@sma7530 Жыл бұрын
Just bought a boxed one and it powers up. Thanks for the video as it will help me refurbish/keep it going
@IDPhotoMan
@IDPhotoMan 3 жыл бұрын
Nice! I love old printers, and have about 10 total, back from PET printers to this 801. Thanks for the video
@giuseppelavecchia775
@giuseppelavecchia775 3 жыл бұрын
Jan,lo sempre detto,non ti batte nessuno.hai sistemato una bellissima stampante storica Commodore,e un gioiello.Jan,sei sempre il RE.alla prossima,ciao.
@hammondeggsmusic
@hammondeggsmusic 3 жыл бұрын
My C64 printer was a star nx-10 if I recall. I did run into one of these once though, the printer actually only had 1 tall “pin” - there’s a bar behind the ink+paper with sharp bumps on it that rotates crazy fast, and determines where that “unihammer” makes a dot vertically, making it very noisy too!
@fluffyfoxbunny
@fluffyfoxbunny 3 жыл бұрын
Omg I have this so thanks for the video! Can't wait to fix mine up at last!!!
@parrottm76262
@parrottm76262 3 жыл бұрын
The re-ink attempt was well worth it. I am surprised the cloth ribbon hadn't turned to dust. Well done!
@systemchris
@systemchris 3 жыл бұрын
For old ink have you tried the spray a bit of wd40 and move the reel then a bit more and then it should reagitate the ink
@d1360q
@d1360q Жыл бұрын
buen trabajo! es una hermosa impresora!. gracias por el video!
@OTuit
@OTuit 3 жыл бұрын
I still have my Mac Inker device. It will run the ribbon around a capstan with an ink reservoir. Worked really well.
@markfiddament9383
@markfiddament9383 3 жыл бұрын
I had the Tandy version. Yes it is a dot matrix. The “head” has 2 hammers (you can tell by the ribbon cable to the carriage) Behind the paper is a spiked bar, the bar is spun, and the hammer is fired when the spike on the bar is at the correct height to create the dot. The hammers are sloped as the carriage is mechanically linked to the spiked bar so you get a vertical line. The carriage is released at the end of the line and the spring pulls it back to the home position. Very simple and very slow and noisy.
@JanBeta
@JanBeta 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I read up about the mechanism in the service manual. Pretty peculiar. But it works well enough. :)
@MrChrisRP
@MrChrisRP 3 жыл бұрын
I remember having my Commodore DM printer. This is probably the exact model but I am not sure of that. Cool! I am talking about 1985, when I was online with it too, using Q-Link and 300 baud modem. Q-Link turned into AOL in the future from there.
@garethclarke3753
@garethclarke3753 3 жыл бұрын
oh the memories... love the video Jan! :D
@dnorman2134
@dnorman2134 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day, we used a dribble of WD-40 on a dry ribbon. It would bleed and smear for a couple of test pages and have a slight color change. But we got a lot more use out of a ribbon. Epson, Roland, and Tandy ribbons.
@MarkTheMorose
@MarkTheMorose 3 жыл бұрын
Also my first printer, bought to use with my Commodore 64. I recall that third party companies were advertising replacement ROMs that would give true descenders (I don't recall if they also did bi-directional printing). My second printer was an Epson LX-86, used with my Amiga, a fair step up in quality.
@BriansManCave
@BriansManCave 3 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I still remember when we got our C64 printer... I went out and bought The Print Shop just to be able to print cool things. Today people wouldn't understand the struggle of waiting 5 min to print something ..lol
@BillAnt
@BillAnt 11 ай бұрын
Oh man, I can still hear it in my head that weird rattling sound it made hitting the dot matrix pins. But hey, I used to print my high school home work with it, and it was fairly reliable. lol
@user-yg6tr1wm6x
@user-yg6tr1wm6x 3 жыл бұрын
I think you got great outro now! Typing dot matrix printer as a background of closing titles. Just switch off that screaming printer sound and it will be even more great.
@JanBeta
@JanBeta 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, nice idea.
@Charleshawn66
@Charleshawn66 3 жыл бұрын
I love all your videos! I also still have my MPS801 which was also my 1St printer. I also have my 2nd and 3rd printers being the MPS801 and the Commodore PDS1101 which was NOT CHEAP! In October of 1986 for $29.95 I bought a ROM which made the tails of the q, y & j go below the line on my MPS801.
@TMQ1888
@TMQ1888 9 ай бұрын
Just bought one this week. Ordered new old stock ink and paper 240x280mm. Hopefully, everything goes well 🙏
@davidgeltz7604
@davidgeltz7604 3 жыл бұрын
Back in my day when I was in high school in the AV club ( IE in my school the Geek Squad ) we used to have a little jig you would put it on with little motor that would spin turn it. put ink on a little sponge that would rub against the ribbon and we set a timer and we would just let it run for 15 minutes. We also had a jig that would do the image writer ( IE APPLE Printers ) that had color ribbons which would be 3 colors and black all on one ribbon.
@grotekleum
@grotekleum 3 жыл бұрын
I used to 'replenish' dry ribbons with a good spraying of WD40; works on colour ones too. If you couldn't get it apart, clamping it and using a drill to power the ribbon advance did the trick.
@Ryan96se
@Ryan96se 3 жыл бұрын
The metal tab on the side with the notches going in a half circle are to adjust the gap between the head and the paper. If your ink is a bit much you can depress the metal tab and move it to a further away notch to avoid the streaking :-)
@jamesdetenbeck6910
@jamesdetenbeck6910 3 жыл бұрын
Wow... I so wanted one of those when I was a kid...!
@Hiraghm
@Hiraghm 3 жыл бұрын
That was the sequel to my Vic 1525.... the 1525 / Gorilla Banana / Tandy DMP100 were all the same Seikosha, iirc. The MPS-801 was probably my favorite printer.
@gosammy1971
@gosammy1971 3 жыл бұрын
My first printer was the Seikosha GP100VC, which is the same as the VC1525. Later i replaced it with a Star NL-10, which was able to print NLQ
@alhartman66
@alhartman66 3 жыл бұрын
Also sold as the Tandy Line Printer VII.
@savvassidiropoulos5952
@savvassidiropoulos5952 3 жыл бұрын
This must be a custom version of the Seikosha GP250X mechanism. That was my first printer. It's not actually even a "proper" dot matrix printer. The tell is the ribbon cable driving the print head. It only carries three signal lines. The head doesn't have a set of needles but just a vertical hammer. And the platen is not a rubber platen but has ribs across the print direction and it rotates fast. The print head hits each vertical line up to 7 times to produce up to 7 dots as it hits against the rotating ribs. Extremely noisy and extremely slow. But the fact that it actually works is amazing.
@eddielegs344
@eddielegs344 3 жыл бұрын
I used to have a printer on my c64, also a Matrix Printer, I don't remember which brand. Remember, he could print back and forth in both directions, but when I went to print, you had to make sure that you could close the door because the noise was not heard! :))
@johnnygray8160
@johnnygray8160 3 жыл бұрын
Jan, dein T-Shirt finde ich sensationell!
@painkillergko
@painkillergko 3 жыл бұрын
Good job! Great printer. Nice movie:)
@haraldaichinger9335
@haraldaichinger9335 3 жыл бұрын
I love the video maybe you can do more on this like tuning the printer with a rubber band or changing the eprom to fix the font problem.
@cbmeeks
@cbmeeks 3 жыл бұрын
I have an Okimate 10 still in the box. Was actually my first printer ever.
@joachimcueppers6961
@joachimcueppers6961 3 жыл бұрын
Ich hatte den an meinem VC20. Es war mein erstes BASIC Projekt die 8Bit Grafik auf 7 Nadeln des Druckers umzuverteilen (das Programm ist schon längst verschollen). Der Höllenlärm beim Invers Druck ( schwarzer Hintergrund) war bis in den Keller zu hören.
@patrickbeerhorst9674
@patrickbeerhorst9674 3 жыл бұрын
Basic and loud model GP500(A) by Seikosha, my first printer for the Commodore plus/4. The Original had a different connector that needed an interface (Wiesemann) for use with Commodore.
@pauldeane8369
@pauldeane8369 3 жыл бұрын
I did this! I opened up the cartridge because I was actually attempting to replace the ribbon, but the ribbons I had were too long for this cartridge. I put a few drops of ink in and it was very dark and smeared for quite some time. Still pretty bad...got better after many many pages. Moral of the story...it only needs 1-2 drops
@janbiedermann1398
@janbiedermann1398 3 жыл бұрын
Just learned the english word for >>unterlängen
@jeromekentz6616
@jeromekentz6616 3 жыл бұрын
That sound really takes me back in time! Sadly I gave away my original printer about 20 years ago thinking I would never have a use for it. :(
@user-rv9vw5ef9e
@user-rv9vw5ef9e 3 жыл бұрын
Actually, you could use it with diskette drives to reproduce metallicka and other garbage "music"!
@UberAlphaSirus
@UberAlphaSirus 3 жыл бұрын
I had a colour one of these. Man did it make the paper mushy. Mostley used it with an action replay cartidge to print loading screens.
@marco_foco
@marco_foco 3 жыл бұрын
Ok, you got the thumb up in the first second, just for the T-Shirt
@MacMelmac
@MacMelmac 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Star LC10 for my Atari ST. It was also loud but not as high pitched as this one.
@Voyager_2
@Voyager_2 3 жыл бұрын
The effect after the re-inkt is normal, just print a few pages and it wil return to normal.
@doktor6495
@doktor6495 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video! Back in the day I owned a STAR LC-10 9 pin matrix printer. I loved it! Should I have a look at ebay!? 😉 Greeting, Doc64!
@philsbbs
@philsbbs 3 жыл бұрын
I had this printer back when I had my c16 and then plus 4 was a good printer
@rarbiart
@rarbiart 3 жыл бұрын
"there is nothing like the sound of a seikosha in the morning"
@philsbbs
@philsbbs 3 жыл бұрын
Ive worked for one of the biggest retail companies in the world and they still use dot matrix printers for printing reports (LG31 Digital printer, also some parts use LA75 printers)
@pureboxofscartcables
@pureboxofscartcables 3 жыл бұрын
I bought one of these from a schoolfriend. I had it connected to an Amiga 500 via some kind of home-made parallel to serial interface that was advertised in the back pages of a computer magazine. I thought it looked familiar in the picture but as soon as I heard the noise...! Microphones cannot possibly capture the shear volume and mechanical pain of these things. I rejuvenated my ribbon with an aerosol carbon spay. I wouldn't recommend it because 30 years later I still can't hear much and my hands are black. 😃
@cairsahrstjoseph996
@cairsahrstjoseph996 3 жыл бұрын
I had a Seikosha SP-1000-VC. Not bottom-end, like this 801; but not high end like the best Epsons; but a damn fine reliable workhorse which never failed
@Hounddoggy33
@Hounddoggy33 3 жыл бұрын
I had a VIC 1525. It worked great, especially with Print Shop/Print Master/News Room. I also used Magic Desk, one of the first programs I got with the C64. You should try printing out a banner!
@londongaz2
@londongaz2 3 жыл бұрын
Such a nostalgic sound when that thing gets going! Sounds like the printer is clearing its throat 🤣 I remember my dad bringing back reams of holed paper like that from work to use on our Epson dot matrix. Your stuff looks quite yellow, is it vintage 80s paper?!
@MrLurchsThings
@MrLurchsThings 3 жыл бұрын
Used to fix/service so many dot matrix printers back in the day. For me at least, Okidata made the best ones, especially by the 90s.
@ProtectorOfIsrael
@ProtectorOfIsrael 2 ай бұрын
I had one. It used to scare the crap out of my cat when it printed. RIP Mister Smoke
@footrotdog
@footrotdog 3 жыл бұрын
My first printer too! And I still have it! :D
@joncrawford3485
@joncrawford3485 3 жыл бұрын
In the day I gave up with the Commodore printers as it seemed faster to write things out by hand than printing! I ended up getting a parallel port interface for my C128 and attaching a NEC P2200 24pin printer; obviously you didn't get the blocky graphics characters but it printed like a bat outta hell.
@MoraFermi
@MoraFermi 3 жыл бұрын
The easiest way to re-ink these cartridges is to use a piece of round plantic (i.e. a pen) to pull the ribbon out as far as it goes then dripping ink onto it on some tray. All you then need to do is to spool the ribbon back in.
@RcAircraft
@RcAircraft 3 жыл бұрын
I think the printer i have in my loft is that printer. So for me this was useful as I did not know printer ribbons are still available and I can do a test print. 👍
@rednight2476
@rednight2476 3 жыл бұрын
I actually quite like those printers
@gunken8870
@gunken8870 3 жыл бұрын
... ach wie schön, mein erster Drucker. NewsRoom habe ich damit ausgedruckt. Whow!
@manicsorceress2181
@manicsorceress2181 3 жыл бұрын
This was my first printer that I used on my C116. My parents bought it for me at Allkauf (which are now Real). I used it for many years until the Amiga came along. I then replaced it with a 9-pin printer with a Centronics interface because I didn't know how to connect the round DIN plug to the Amiga. I don't think that was even possible.
@piwex69
@piwex69 3 жыл бұрын
I had this from the OEM - Seikosha. The one-hammer printer as opposed to 7,8,9,24 pins.
@danielson9579
@danielson9579 3 жыл бұрын
I've never seen one of those printers before but I must say it does look cool 😎👍
@user-rv9vw5ef9e
@user-rv9vw5ef9e 3 жыл бұрын
Later versions with more needles are better (and louder).
@angrydove4067
@angrydove4067 3 жыл бұрын
That model is a lot like the Comrex CR-220, which was my first printer ever. No true descender and purple text but I could print!!!!
@angrydove4067
@angrydove4067 3 жыл бұрын
You can open up the cartridge and put the ink into the little reservoir inside and you won't damage the cartridge, I did this many times.
@bwack
@bwack 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanks for showing is the process. I looked up the cpu. It had I/Os. It needs ram and rom. I guess, like the disc drives, it is a computer in itself 🙂
@JanBeta
@JanBeta 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I think it works very similar to the disk drives in that respect. The serial bus is stupid in itself. :D
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