Companion Planting VS. Interplanting: Differences, Examples, and Strategies for Both
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Күн бұрынWhat is the difference between companion planting and interplanting? Understanding that and how to use each is the goal with today's video!
In this video we cover: companion planting examples, interplanting examples, intercropping examples, trap crops, attracting beneficials, flea beetles, aphids, and more.
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-3 years study in Spain. orchards: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
Marigold tomato study: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
-Borage and Aphids: www.researchgate.net/publicat...
-Sweet alyssum and predator insects: www.sciencedirect.com/science...
-green garlic and cucumbers: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/arti...
-Intercropping weed suppression meta analysis: Annual intercropping suppresses weeds: A meta-analysis
Improved photosynthesis in pepper with garlic: www.pakbs.org/pjbot/PDFs/45(6...
Meta analysis on reducing yield losses to pests and diseases: nph.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/d...
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@williamcash8855 Жыл бұрын
We Indians plant what we call the three sisters we plant sweet corn when it gets about 6 inches to 12 inches tall we plant pole beans between the corn stalks then squash between the rows
@notillgrowers Жыл бұрын
Completely neglected to give credit and appreciation to the many indigenous interplanting practices (such as three sisters) in this video. Thanks for the comment!
@eulaapostolopoulos8158 Жыл бұрын
😊❤😢😢😢😢😢😅😅❤😂😂😂 😢😮😮😢
@midnull6009 Жыл бұрын
What Indians? And only a certain types of corn, beans, and squash can be grown w/in a certain region. Else it wont work because of location/climate. Also, do yo know why? The reason behind it?
@williamcash8855 Жыл бұрын
@@midnull6009 I'm Apache and Cherokee I learned the practice from my Apache Grandma I have seen work
@williamcash8855 Жыл бұрын
it work with different types of corn and beens but the only squash that I have tried is yellow çrocked
@seena6163 Жыл бұрын
Doctor turned regenerative and organic urban- micro farmer here. Absolutely love your science based approach. Just fantastic. So much misinformation out there spread by "cut and paste" blogs and websites. The humor is a welcome addition, too. Thank you for what you do!
@thehermitdruid Жыл бұрын
I’m sorry is that a thing and how can I do that for a living? Dead serious.
@seena6163 Жыл бұрын
@@thehermitdruid Well, not sure if it's a thing, but depending on where you live, and how big your lot is, you can make decent money. I don't really do it as primary income, but it supplements my SS. There's lots of info out there on Urban gardening. Even if you don't make a living from it, it really can reduce your grocery bill!
@thehermitdruid Жыл бұрын
@@seena6163 yeh this is what I do already, by a living I meant I thought there was programs for regenerative urban gardening initiatives, tbh there might be and I just need to look it up. Thanks :)
@seena6163 Жыл бұрын
@@thehermitdruid I'm pretty sure, depending on where you live, that there are. I'm in NYS and there are all kinds of supportive initiatives. Best of luck to you!
@thehermitdruid Жыл бұрын
@@seena6163 there has to be something like that in Toronto if not I need to find a way to start lol
@MynewTennesseeHome Жыл бұрын
It's reassuring there are others that mix and match to see what happens. I always say, "I'm just trying to confuse the bugs" 😁
@scottbaruth9041 Жыл бұрын
My daughter was concerned that there were ticks all over the cats bed in our garage. I checked, and it was a hatch of Harlequin bugs. I'm not ready to declare cats are a trap crop for Harlequin beetles yet, though it was strange.
@jasonhatfield4747 Жыл бұрын
I planted a 1/2 acre native perennial/prairie patch on our property before I planned on farming vegetables. I'm glad I did, not just for the benefit to wild life, but also for the benefit to our vegetables now. We have an insanely robust population of pollinators and birds here as a result of all these native forbs and grasses. Everyone should try to incorporate at least a small patch of native perennials in their yards/gardens. These plants really do wonders. I didn't expect such dramatic results.
@Kayenne54 Жыл бұрын
All my pre-1989 research on these topics always said, wherever possible, to have a "wild corner" or segment of your garden, (or farm) where whatever was natural or seemed beneficial would grow, and encourage insect and associated wildlife/birdlife as well. Not everyone has that luxury of course, but even in a small suburban garden, one little corner which is left as original would help, I'd think. Perhaps native shrubs or bushes, if trees were out of the question...you've found out from practical experience how much difference that makes. One of my gardens was right next to some rainforest, so I didn't have to do anything, but others I've always left things well alone on one corner (and of course, I never use toxic sprays and artificial fertilizers to mess with the soil life). One place I was living at, I had to import garden worms. After a few years, they'd naturally "escaped" from the beds, and were everywhere. The ground was so hard in that particular garden, I had to do "no dig gardening" and decided it was the best thing ever, and would never dig again.
@MeowMeowKapow Жыл бұрын
I also, accidentally, did a double-seeding this year, too! My purple cayenne plants absolutely refused to germinate, despite MULTIPLE sowings, both indoors, and outdoors after I got desperate, under a sawed off soda bottle for that slapdash greenhousing affect. Three or so months of attempts later, I gave up and kinda forgot about them almost immediately because my ADHD is hella bad. Shoved a leek scrap into the ground to regrow it, halfway pausing after I did because I was like "Wait, isn't something supposed to be maybe here?" Couple weeks later and MAGICALLY, there's a purple cayenne seedling sprouting literally RIGHT up against the base of the leek! There's no way I could separate them without hurting the chili plant, and after all that hassle? Yeah, I'm not risking it. So, this is the year we're going to test just how compatible cayenne and leeks are! hahaha.
@adrianteresa98 Жыл бұрын
I had a really cool "accident" by planting spinach over cilantro and they are growing together beautifully! It seems like they are happy together because my cilantro is so tall but still healthy and dark green and not bolting... So cool!
@icecreamladydriver1606 Жыл бұрын
Luetine for the eyes is extracted from marigolds. You can eat the flowers. Very nutritious.
@rachellemazar7374 Жыл бұрын
I love the Living Soil Handbook
@natalie7204 Жыл бұрын
Heyo just want to shout out the original North American intercropping system, the Three Sisters. Corn (i've also used sunflowers in corn's place), pole beans, and vining squash. I've never used it in a commercial context but in a garden it works so well (probably something to do with its centuries of continious use)
@growbig27 11 ай бұрын
Not a market gardener, but this year I have planted purple sprouting broccoli between my tomato plants and the pigeons seem to have not noticed them. Keep the growing need info coming, with love from the UK.
@DoubleQz Ай бұрын
I am new to this. There is so much to learn. Im taking my baby steps.
@cliveburgess4128 Жыл бұрын
I just recently noticed that Dill seems to attract Aphids, interesting idea on the double seed block planting!
@stephenbeck6410 Жыл бұрын
Looking forward to the results on interplanting directly in soil blocks…
@rachellemazar7374 Жыл бұрын
Jessie, I’m viewing from the San Francisco East Bay Area, I have two little 4x8 raised beds and I love your book and your videos. This one is full of advice that I will use. It amazes me how your farming advice can help a home gardener like me.
@glenagarrett4704 Жыл бұрын
Subtle shade + disingenuous sarcasm = funny. Not many people can pull it off this well. Makes your videos entertaining as well as educational.
@hyperionhiker6320 Жыл бұрын
Here in France, my neighbor gardener planted cilantro with his fava beans and had tremendous success. I tried potatoes and peas this year. So far, the potato beetles are attacking my aubergine plants instead ... good thing they're slow and they don't like savon noir (black soap or Castile soap).
@ljgerken Жыл бұрын
Yes, I mix a couple of tablespoons of castile soap, specifically peppermint, in a gallon of water and spray it right on the plants. No harm to plants, but the bugs don't like it.
@vyaramarinova2300 Жыл бұрын
Aubergine and potatoes are from the same family, that's why they are attaching the aubergine. They are confused
@zestygurl Жыл бұрын
❤ agreed. Cut & ✂️ paste aspect is sharing resource research information to Allow the other person to understand where you found that knowledge from to then check ✔ ✅ that resource to ensure it's correct helpful information or bogus. Just how science has always worked. To show the resources borrowed is what we encourage in college or other schools if I'm not mistaken? When writing a research paper for example? Online to link transparent wise you have copy * paste to credit the original source materials not to imply the article is legitimate or not only hypothesis to consider. Helps flushing out that incorrect information out there in the process. Grew up on a farm basically so, college has been this planet made more sense than going into debt to learn at an institution that has been very toxic society, from my perspective, enjoy getting paid to learn. ❤
@janetwise3248 Жыл бұрын
Good morning, I just have a little garden with 3 x 6 foot beds and find that planting perrenial herbs like oregano or thyme in the corner of the bed works well as their blooms attract lots of pollinators. And I don't have to replant them each year.
@kathynix6552 Жыл бұрын
I like this idea I do have oregano on one corner but I planted thyme in the middle.
@notillgrowers Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah, thyme is a really good one! I love watching those tiny flowers fill up with bees/flys/insects.
@SeeStuDo Жыл бұрын
Great tip.
@cpnotill9264 Жыл бұрын
Awesome Janet! Try the perennial bronze fennel if you haven't. Oh my the tiny insects LOVE it and the flowers and seeds are the sweetest thing I have ever tasted! Yellow tiny flowers against the feathery foliage is just beautiful. 🌱👍
@janetwise3248 Жыл бұрын
@@cpnotill9264 thanks for the tip, always looking to try something new.
@hellomeoww Жыл бұрын
Ah! I'm doing a dill/lettuce interplant right now... Basically scattered dill seed in between the rows right after transplanting the lettuce. Not sure how the timing will work out but it'll be cool if it works! The lettuce is about 2 weeks away from harvest and dill is about 1-2 inches tall at this point.
@stephanieh8089 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the link to the university root images! I have been wondering how to determine root compatibility for a while now, and you've just made it easy for me. You are awesome - keep up the great work!
@Ann__333 Жыл бұрын
All the science talk got a subscription from me. 😊
@KelikaRanke Ай бұрын
Loved this video-thank you! We "fill in gaps" often on our farm and I always thought a "Real farmer" would never do this so I'm stoked to know that this is actually a practice others find benefit in, especially with carrots! geez that germ rate is a stab in the heart sometimes! We fill in salad mix gaps with lettuce head. After your 2nd sometimes 3rd cut of salad the head is ready. We also let random things seed especially cilantro and dill to encourage beneficials and those 2 are challenging to grow sometimes so rouge dill helps when trying to fill orders. :) thx again! your videos are helping grow so much food!
@user-px2sn8pr5t 5 күн бұрын
this is a cool episode. i am wondering how to apply this to my hydroponics
@enzolescure5833 9 күн бұрын
6:30 Touché
@gabrieldewitt3852 4 ай бұрын
Dude, you are an amazing plant nerd! Awesome farm! Each video I see if yours is informative. Keep it up! I wish I had more space to grow like you.
@ljgerken Жыл бұрын
Early Spring when I get flea beetles, I have planted radishes and bok choi among my tomatoes as a trap crop. Works every time to keep them off of my tomatoes.I also plant borage to attract aphids, but it's sad to see them get overcome with them, so I am trying to add more umbel flowers to attract ladybugs, etc.
@SeeStuDo Жыл бұрын
Lime Balm works as well as Borage and is a perennial. Also, you don't feel as bad tearing some out to get rid of aphid clusters.
@ljgerken Жыл бұрын
@@SeeStuDo I've heard of lemon balm, is that what you mean?
@SeeStuDo Жыл бұрын
@@ljgerken No, Lime Balm. Grows more like a mint.
@bettyperrin4251 Жыл бұрын
Lemon balm grows like a mint also
@SeeStuDo Жыл бұрын
@@bettyperrin4251 It spreads and grows back early, not as aggressive as mint, but similar. My Lemon Balm stays put and is slower to come back in Spring. That’s what I meant.
@elmartell5724 2 ай бұрын
Never seen your stuff before, but you're hilarious so I'm subscribing 😂😂 I'm sure you're a good gardener too
@amys3168 Жыл бұрын
I bought your book while ago and I’m always surprised when you mention the information is also in your book, because I haven’t seen that chapter yet. I just have to recognize that I’d love to be an avid reader, but I don’t have to ability to just do it (adhd.) So, thank you for the video format as well. I am able to watch your video and then when attempting to implement something I look it up in your book. Many thanks!
@justaregularguy6971 Жыл бұрын
Random next video .. but I’m not mad it’s playing actually perfect to what I’m doing / want to do 🧐👌🏾👍🏽
@keelanbanks6171 Жыл бұрын
Really excited to see what happens with the double planting!
@OldForestWitch Жыл бұрын
I wish I could like each section of this video separately. It needs much more than just the one thumbs up.
@5ivearrows Жыл бұрын
Glad to see I'm not the only one with electric fence surrounding my market garden with thousands and thousands of dollars worth of produce growing in it. I have the added bonus of certain wild hog presence in the immediate surrounding area, including in the same pasture the garden is in.
@kcmalone662 Жыл бұрын
What you call trap crop I sometimes call an indicator plant. I grow it because the pest is going to show up there first. So while I will from time to time monitor all the plants, prioritzing my energy and focus on the indicator plant allows me the leg up on the pest to catch it before it reaches the crop of concern (hopefully enough time to order in my biologicals), ultimately before I reach any threshold. Similarly I call it a banker plant when its one that will provide habitat for beneficials in-between lifecycles of a pest of concern.
@catracampolieto8989 Жыл бұрын
Seed starting 2 different crops at the same time in the same cell....BRILLIANT!!! I'll try that next year. Thanks.
@gingerydelights3554 3 ай бұрын
Have you tried it yet? If so with what? I'm about to sow some red Romaine with Cilantro and see how it goes
@Sencman1 3 ай бұрын
What are the results I would love to know
@matttibbitts8198 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info!
@manolopapas Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you
@stonemountaincreations3459 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@kolokithas7865 Жыл бұрын
Great video!
@susanhaynes4502 2 ай бұрын
Great info
@rafaellaburkley Жыл бұрын
I love how informative your videos are
@janebennett9062 Жыл бұрын
I always love your channel
@albertosuarez4933 Жыл бұрын
Awesome info, you always give me good ideas for trying new things! And yay for plantomorphism! :D
@francescaurban8985 4 ай бұрын
Thank you, thank you, thank you from the Southwestern Arkansas total plant nerd!!! 🥰💚🌳🌻
@deannewilliams3321 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting!
@claudinedecarlisle8647 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Interesting and informative video. You've given me several options for my garden this year. Love the outro. And yes I did buy your book.
@notillgrowers Жыл бұрын
Amazing, Thank you so much for the support!
@MaryLeeGaffin Жыл бұрын
Incredibly helpful info, saved to favorites for future reference!
@cherylbertolini3140 Жыл бұрын
Good morning, another great video thanks for shearing, have a wonderful week.
@StSdijle Жыл бұрын
That flick was great! As for the predator attraction. I don’t think it’s actually the plant that attracts the predators, but the pest itself. In my observation, it’s always the pest arriving at trap crops and some time later the friendly bugs. At least that is what I see with aphids and ladybugs in my garden. And it doesn’t matter wich plant got the aphid infestation. For me the traps’ advantage is, that it doesn’t matter that the ladybugs need a bit time to arrive.
@winterroadspokenword4681 Жыл бұрын
Lots of great humour in this video!
@TaZerrHD Жыл бұрын
You always make me smile, and sometimes even laugh ❤
@corinne7126 Жыл бұрын
Bought your book, it is awesome and thanks for the videos
@cedrichassell7902 Жыл бұрын
Love your comments and information ❤
@willc4922 Жыл бұрын
love your humor
@williammaxwell1919 Жыл бұрын
I had a small backyard vegetable garden, that did not facilitate growing large patches of a single crop. One strategy I used was when I removed a plant such as a lettuce, bok choy, tomatoe etc (& if there was space and I'd had the forethought to raise succession seedlings), I'd plant something else; generally entirely random with entirely random results. But if you don't try you will never fail; therefore, your learning will be limited. Part of the "zen and the art of gardening" is learning from "the good, bad and ugly" results. Mistakes and accidents are the cutting edge teachers of critical new learning.
@theresakelly3747 10 ай бұрын
Got my book❤❤❤
@qwerwerterytrtyutyuiyuiouiop 11 ай бұрын
plenty of new fascinating and useful info I learned from you here, thanks very much!
@waynesell3681 Жыл бұрын
On the learning curve!
@ClareAndAlec Жыл бұрын
6:10 I really enjoyed this slight tangent
@carissalizotte8977 Жыл бұрын
Super cool idea of sowing two different seeds in one block! I need to order the book… love your content! 🙌🏽💚
@SethCarignan 3 ай бұрын
This is the first video of yours I have watched. Wow. We have very similar mindsets. ❤
@ThongsamayXai Жыл бұрын
so nice gardening
@tutortani Жыл бұрын
Wow amazing what a nice plant. 👍👍👍🇲🇨🇲🇨🇲🇨
@carolinablonde88 Жыл бұрын
Your videos are as hilarious as they are informational. Love your sense of humor. The only issue I see with cilantro in your lettuce is for your cilantro hating customers like me. My husband harvested cilantro, then tomatoes and brought them both inside. I washed the tomatoes and could still taste the vile cilantro contamination 🤢 It ruined our spinach crop one time too just by growing near it. Some cilantro had reseeded itself near the spinach bed and I could taste and smell it on the spinach. Now we keep it totally separate
@montacookinglifestyle Жыл бұрын
Good farm design ever. Thanks for your idea and very interesting
@danielaggeler9263 Жыл бұрын
Thank you. A lot of information to absorb in the time allotted. I am thinking about some of the same methods you introduced. Good video.
@AnhVan51998 6 ай бұрын
video của bạn rất tuyệt vời❤
@mary-anncarleton7578 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@ajb.822 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, as always, for your videos ! So, watching to the end... this super nerd definitely wants to try this at home ! Especially the cilantro or dill with lettuce.
@RawOrganix420 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info on trap crops. I’m having serious issues with spider mites in my medicinal herbs garden year after year. I’m definitely going to do some research now! Thanks so much for the inspiration.
@farmerJohn678 2 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@notillgrowers 2 ай бұрын
Thank YOU!
@Sky-Child Жыл бұрын
Saving this to watch later as I was JUST thinking about this when wondering if I should plant asparagus and strawberries together and how best to space them
@martinengelbrecht5384 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark, missing you, glad you have a pet bird!
@lupinsensei Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of your content Jessie (apologies if I misspelled your name). I grew up on a small farm and your content takes me back. I understand just how much I underestimated my fathers knowledge (he was a no tiller organic dude). I didn’t take the time to learn much in the way of growing back then, so I’m playing catch up with you. Team Nerd ❤✌️
@PPH-GARDEN Жыл бұрын
Companion planting and intercropping are very useful and save time as well as space and cost. If the combination of suitable plant species will bring high yield efficiency. Thanks for sharing
@jeanniebair4103 3 ай бұрын
Love your channel bought your book…Oklahoma gardening is always a challenge. Squash bugs and vine bores are killing me every year!
@abdelazizmhammedi5028 11 ай бұрын
am a fan of yours and of ur channel, thanks a lot,,, ur follower from somewhere in the algerian desert
@jessicaalcaraz7038 Жыл бұрын
Trap plant Sweet allysum also for flea beetles at my place in Central New Mexico.
@robertbell4604 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for putting out these weekly videos. They are amazing
@sweetpeasbackyardgarden1236 Жыл бұрын
Great video! I'm definitely going to experiment with a few of those strategies. Creating biodiversity has worked wonders for my garden. Over the last two years, I've added marigolds, sunflowers, berry patches and sweet peas.
@user-wx1eb5ws4x 10 ай бұрын
Your videos are much much helpful thanks for the information.. I am following you from Libya.
@Bentleybabygirl 11 ай бұрын
This is so pretty like the row beds look so unreal man great job
@VeryMiley Жыл бұрын
Excellent topic and discussion. Thank you from a fellow garden nerd
@ijahdagang6121 9 ай бұрын
The plants are all very lush and fresh.. I love them. I wish you success and always be healthy...
@David-fd9cr Жыл бұрын
Doing food forestry for the homestead in WA state, I broadcast a seed mix of fast growing greens, clovers, and grains immediately after planting trees, shrubs, and herbaceous perennials. Since it was freshly cleared from forest, there were barely any weeds and crops started coming in within 30 days. Not a model for the produce farmer though. I do a variation of this in Hawaii now and have found that a light mulch on top of the seed mix plus 5 weedings allows me to create a weed free food forest with a succession of crops. If weeds are allowed to get established, it is a nightmare to weed it all and then crops suffer from pests and disease due to root disturbance.
@hopesoap Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for all the great information, will you be doing an episode on how to maintain the local deer and pest pressure on your farm?
@lenamccubbin1068 11 ай бұрын
I planted sweet alyssum between tomatoes this year andgot clouds of tiny syrphid flies of a type I’ve never seen before. Alyssum definitely brought them in.
@kaylaporter6698 3 ай бұрын
The "return to making what video?" earned you a subscribe
@hrplanttrees Жыл бұрын
Hello brother Your vegetable garden is very beautiful👍
@Tarmantarmant Жыл бұрын
Nice video content
@ArizonaBorn1358 Жыл бұрын
Thanks! No questions. You cleared up confusion and provided ideas.
@notillgrowers Жыл бұрын
Great to hear! Thank you
@afrocraft1 Жыл бұрын
Nigerian study? Impressive! 🎉
@etiennelouw9244 9 ай бұрын
I just started square foot gardening as an experiment and interplanting is another idea for my suburban veggie patch. thank you.
@TheTwistedTraceur Жыл бұрын
im gonna try double seeding , great experiment at first sight
@susanprather1142 Жыл бұрын
I was always told marigolds kept deer away. And learned here resantly to plant basil with tomatoes to keep bad insects away. I'll have to try both and see what happens. It's all so interesting. Love watching your channel. We always learn so much.
@bhalliwell2191 7 ай бұрын
I had read that a border of marigolds around the garden would keep *rabbits* away. Nope. Planted a border of marigolds as closely spaced as the marigolds would tolerate and the local rabbit/s ate them, then went back to their burrows *in* the garden. (They or it had a secret entrance---I think---into and a toboggan kind of exit away from the garden, running at the welded wire "trellis" enclosing the kitchen garden and then sliding on their bellies to go underneath it and get outside the enclosure.) But I do sincerely wish you good success with marigolds or anything else strongly scented, if deer are your garden marauder. Out local deer aren't deterred by much of anything and they are both very determined and very clever. All the best to you!
@rosehavenfarm2969 Жыл бұрын
So interesting, Farmer Jesse. Thank you! we have had Japanese Beetle infestations the last few years. In a very non-study way, we found in one of our little gardens, that those awful beetles LOVED the marshmallow herb and horseradish leaves, but never touched the nearby feverfew, lemon balm, or chives. I don't think I've ever seen those dratted beetles on bronze fennel or dill, either.
@jennexxer 5 ай бұрын
Ive always double cropped and have great results. Mainly beans with greens because thats what we eat the most. The beans add the nitrogen boost greens need.
@user-qf2ps5pp5f Жыл бұрын
Thank you very much, this is super interesting. I'm a beginner gardener with just one bed which was previously kept bare (it's full of ants and the soil is quite degraded) so I'm trying to put as much cover as possible and bring back the insects. I would like to suggest to include the doi of the publications instead of the links, as it would be easier to copy them out for later reading - the links are all cut off in the middle and dois are shorter.
@JamesCooker-no8ud 11 ай бұрын
Hello How are you doing today
@dumbgeorge1 11 ай бұрын
Thanks
@notillgrowers 11 ай бұрын
Amazing, thank you!
@vitamartinenko4747 Жыл бұрын
Love your videos, they are so useful and informative, thank you! 🌱
@janhuff7770 4 ай бұрын
I know you said not to add I heard but I did read an article from University about wire for deer. You need to run one 7-8 feet this does not have to be electrified. Then you need to run one around 2-3 feet high about 2 feet from 8 foot wire, This does have to be electrified. The principle is that the deer eyes are located more on the side of their head and this configuration con fuses their depth perception for jumping plus they sense the lower wire and this really disturbs them, The hope is that after awhile they will stop trying and you can leave the wire but not electrified all the time
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