Compare Traxxas Slash HCG to LCG to ProLine ProTrac On Carpet with stock Slash Tires and Pin Tires

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3 жыл бұрын

In this video I do a comparison between three Slash based SCT truck. The frist is a stock 2wd Slash HCG. It does well for a beginner on a budget that wants an SCT for home and occasional carpet. I do not run this truck with pin tires as it would just roll over all day long. The second SCT is a Slash 2wd with an LCG chassis. This does well for the same individual getting into the hobby. The final truck is my ProLine ProTrac build. This is the best and does really well with pin tires after I running it with stock Slash tires.
1:41 Stock LCG
4:50 Slash ProLine ProTrac
Do look at my build:
ProTrac kit comparison kzfaq.info/get/bejne/sN6Sod2Bpr7ZpJ8.html
Build Series:
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Please watch:
Traxxas Slash 2wd the ultimate LCG Chassis on a budget Carpet runtime chassis weight comparison
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Follow up:
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@friktionrc 2 жыл бұрын

I’m on my 2nd 2wd slash…but not used for racing…just bashing etc…but it is my first ‘hobby grade’ rc and the car (truck?) that got me back into the hobby after +35yrs lol….you’re right about the aftermarket/spares ….Arrma may be stronger because they’ve ironed out all the weak points of the Slash….but..damn the Slash can be made into anything - bashers, Monster Trucks, +150mph speed run beasts, crawlers ….this is the only make/chassis that I’ve seen that crosses rc genres…..all the other brands, don’t have nearly as much spares/aftermarket parts for one single model…..as for it jumping well…I remember reading when researching what RC to get, the Traxxas Slash stock bodyshell was purposely designed to ‘scoop’ the air and creat a parachuting effect…the idea being to recreate how real SCTs/Baja trucks ‘hang’ in the air …that’s why the fenders have such an exaggerated scoop…the irony is that, this body design, is one of the reasons it’s not as good on track….the parachuting effect creates a lot of drag….but still…I love it, and I would always recommend it.

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

I really like and appreciate your comment. And you are completely right about the versatility of the Slash. I really hope more people read your comment. I remember doing so many things with a Slash... monster slash, monster drag slash, drag car, dessert racer... even the nitro Slash (turned that into a "muscle car"). Fun times.

@friktionrc 2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc Thanks for the kind response mate....at the end of the day we're all just learning and no one knows everything, especially in our hobby thats changing daily....but glad to hear you managed to maximise the full potential of the Slash.....my first one has been converted to a buggy with a BZR front end....but I'm hoping to make my second one a 'speed off-road basher" (Think Robby Gordon style lol).....keep up the awesome vids mate 👌🤟👍😎

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

@@friktionrc I shall do my best. Thank you 😁👍😎

@boomerpaschall 2 жыл бұрын

Good content, salute

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you. Salute.

@NikkiNexo777 2 жыл бұрын

This is the same track Razor RC goes to. Good deal

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome!

@V8chump Жыл бұрын

Would you reccomend the proline protrac setup? I can’t find anything saying what it’s meant to do 😅 would it be a good idea for a drag setup or a drift setup?

@telecomandorc Жыл бұрын

Each arm is 1cm longer so you need shallow offset wheels (they come in the kit. But the arms are way to long for drag. For drag you want shorter axles to handle the stress and power like the bandit arms. The PL may work for drifting though.

@extec101 2 жыл бұрын

i dont feel i need to be negative but the driver is all over the place so its hard to know it its driver error or the car is handling bad. tho im driving on furf track i seem to get alot better handling then this. my setup is LCG and tekno rear hubs and driveshafts, and as low as posible around front servo and back of both sides of battery is 40g weight added to keep the CG of the car as low as posible and prevent roll overs. also as i foud out more weight maks the suspenssion work more efficient.

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

Not negative at all. You feedback is valueble as many will probably be curious about astro. Let us know what tires you are using. Some same the stock tires actually do well on turf. Also, feel free to watch my Spec Slash videos or my Ultimate LCG video. Oh, and thank you for the details about your setup. This is useful for readers. 😎

@extec101 2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc im using the stock BF tyres that came om my slash, good overall grip tho the sides is way to soft and traction roll is somewhat a problem if i dive bomb the corners but that is solved by just go a slight bit slower but with more pressision in the corners.

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

@@extec101 Thank you for the information. I guess the BFs are good for something afterall. I will have to try them on a similar surface someday. Thank you again.

@plam408 Жыл бұрын

Is Traxxas slash class popular at Norcal? I'm considering getting a Slash and doing similar upgrades to run Slash or short course truck.

@telecomandorc Жыл бұрын

It is run and popularity varies (2wd buggy is most popular). But I would just get an sct kit and run mod if you prefer a truck. To make the Slash competitive it takes a lot of money for a Slash. I will round numbers for simplicity: Box Stock Slash $200 GTR shocks/springs $100 TRX Rally tires $40 Slash off-set Wheels $10 LCG $40 So almost $400 and just over if you get the front sway bar... and it will never be competitive in sct mod. An SCT6.2 fully dressed will be about 2100g. A Slash fully dressed will be closer to 2400g. If you really want a Slash, consider building this: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7GFpNtk17zbk6M.html

@Texasbroski512 Жыл бұрын

I want the new slash vxl 2wd with that new transmission and do a lcg conversion I have a slash ultimate and a Losi tenacity tt pro but idk why I really want to get a 2wd

@telecomandorc Жыл бұрын

I get the feeling. They just look cool and Traxxas marketing makes it look that much cooler.

@ascreativeandrccars4489 3 жыл бұрын

The pickup is good and suspension looks very good Track and monster

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

I like the way they drive. Buggies are more popular, but trucks look more realistic.

@ascreativeandrccars4489 2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc hey please reply

@roadrunnerorange Жыл бұрын

It looks like you wanna ditch the slash altogether and go with one of those buggies🤣

@telecomandorc Жыл бұрын

The track has a Slash class. But buggy is the way to go. The very last day I ran it... LCG, sway bars, Rally tires (no pins for Slash class) it was still a good two seconds behind my sct6.2. And that one is behind my b6.3 17.5T 😂.

@Please_Why 2 жыл бұрын

I was thinking of buying this kit for my Slash. My plan so far is to keep brushed until it dies and stick to as many stock parts as I can. Currently I have LCG chassis, different shock oil and springs, tires, and sway bars. Currently does very well on carpet with no traction rolls but how would this affect its performance do you think?

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

Stock shocks and springs will work. You just run the risk of damaging them in jumps after a while. If you are interested in Brushed Slash 2wd performance, please see the videos bellow. I think that will give you an idea of what you can do. Plus, I am using the stock arms, links, towers, basics... The first two videos are my progression and current tune. The last two videos are about how to get more power out of the stock motor and my test. Please, ask me any questions you may still have. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n7GFpNtk17zbk6M.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hcVymJeByryXn4U.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/Z56Xg8Zmz9TRYHU.html kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n9Jkiqljm5vSfGg.html

@Please_Why 2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc I’m hard stuck on keeping the truck at least 90% genuine Traxxas parts and upgrades. Only two things that aren’t Traxxas are tires and Hot Racing sway bars. My question would be if that the sway bars would fit and work on the ProTrac system and make a big enough of a difference to go against what my plan was with the truck?

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

@@Please_Why My response will be a bit long... but let me start with this... the truck in the video links I sent you previously is 99% Traxxas parts. Only the sway bars and battery strap are non Traxxas. The shocks are Traxxas GTR shocks and so are the springs. The tires are Traxxas Rally tires. The gearbox is a Traxxas 272R. The chassis is off of a Nitro Slash. All else is Slash 2wd stuff. Do the sway bars fit the ProTrac? Yes. With stock electronics is the ProTrac worth getting? For durability, yes... for performance on a 1/10 scale track, no. The ProTrac components are heavier. Rear stock arms are 35g and ProTrac rear arms are 39g. The ProTrac with current layouts makes it just heavy enough to just barely not make some jumps. I do not use the ProTrac for spec Slash for these reasons. And I do not use it for 2wd SCT Mod class because my SC6.2 is far lighter and better on a 1/10 scale track. The ProTrac kit is more for a high power application where durability is important, or and 1/8 track setting. Hard to beat in this environment. The SC6.2 is just not durable enough for such high power or bashing as the ProTrac. And the ProTrac really shines over stock where more speed and space is available. Did I address your questions? If I missed the point, just ask again.

@Please_Why 2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc Thank you so much for the detailed response! I was also just wondering because my local track is switching to clay within this year (not looking forward to cleaning the truck every run) and I just was wondering the overall affect of it. I will be getting a Team Associated SCPro4 truck for more of the track focused application but just wanted to prove that Traxxas can be competitive. So far it’s worked really well and just wanted to keep up on possible upgrades and see how drastically they affect the truck. Thank you again! Also I have washed the motor in the Slash, as it was from a 5 year old Rustler I had a long time back, and the thing rips. I love it and people keep asking if it’s really brushed lol Not going brushless until I have to!

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

@@Please_Why 👏🤝 The "Ultimate LCG Slash" I built was in a way to show that driving skill is more important than speed. I completely understand. Now, if you already bought the Pro4... well, enjoy it. But if you have not, consider the Losi Tenacity TT Pro. If it is in your budget... Tekno SCT410.3 is the way to go. The Associated Pro4 is great for rough terrain and bashing. But it is HCG. For bashing it is my choice for price point. For racing, you are better off with a 2wd SC6.2. The Tenacity TT Pro is an aluminum LCG truck, and the Tekno is just the most durable and tunable truck. The shocks are massive. SCT410.3 is the best 4wd SCT I have ever had. If you can, watch my race 5 of End of Year Series: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jNBhfdOGktqmmas.html I was beat by one Pro4... because I screwed up big in the beginning. But I beat the other Pro4 trucks. Usually, Pro4 trucks finish behind our 2wd guys. 🤔this track went from clay to carpet. But the Pro4 as awesome for bashing at price point. Go heavy on the front diff. fluid if you get one. Bellow is a link to the first of my differential series. I hope it helps: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/n9ljlbSGppmYkpc.html Cheers.

@lcpeterbilt379 2 жыл бұрын

to add.. spec slash is a thingf.. high cg, stock tires, only change is radio and fluids.

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

I like those rules. Here we were not allowed to swap the Tx but LCG was permited. Why? No clue.

@lcpeterbilt379 2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc funny cause we cant change to lcg.. but spec slash racing is the most fun you can have.. even the nitro buggy guys get in on it..

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

@@lcpeterbilt379 Absolutely. When we started it was box stock (I was one of the guys that pushed for it and dragged my friend into it). Then after the first season, we (friend and I) showed up to the next series and two guys were running LCG. Then they started running TRX Rally tires... the sway bars, GTR shocks... the point is it turned into stock electronics, and, I believe, it kills the purpose of "stock". Especially since kids were buying them wanting to race but there was no contest. As far as I was concerned, that is why we have a mod SCT class.

@90Kenny 2 жыл бұрын

Does the lcg shorten suspension travel from hcg?

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

I does not. The dimensions and geometry stay the same.

@90Kenny 2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc thanks! I'll snag one tomorrow then

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

@@90Kenny If you have the stock system, you will be fine. But if you have a Hobbywing Max10 with temp wire, you will need to extend the wire as the esc is relocated from the center top to the right side forward.

@90Kenny 2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorcnoted. I do plan on keeping the electronics stock. I only upgrade as I break it. Waiting for my aluminum front bulkhead to come in and might as well switch to lcg lol its my excuse.

@robg3836 Жыл бұрын

Also the LCG you can hear it slamming to the ground

@telecomandorc Жыл бұрын

That is just my bad driving 😅 I needed to work on landing on the down slope and not after it.

@robg3836 Жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc no it won’t be ur driving not bad

@amtrobia 2 жыл бұрын

Where did you get the protrac kit?

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

I had it special ordered from NorCal Hobbies. They do do orders over the phone and ship stuff over. But Amain Hobbies has it too. Since ProLine was acquired by Horizon, the kit was temporarily discontinued and put on the "Coming soon" list. You can buy the parts, but it cost much more than the kit cost.

@ascreativeandrccars4489 3 жыл бұрын

Good

@telecomandorc 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you.

@ascreativeandrccars4489 3 жыл бұрын

Welcome nex video please review your rc Tamiya please 🙂

@telecomandorc 3 жыл бұрын

@@ascreativeandrccars4489 Absolutely.

@ascreativeandrccars4489 3 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc properly ok I HAVE EXPECT TO YOU THANKS

@ascreativeandrccars4489 3 жыл бұрын

SORRY I AM TROUBLING

@ascreativeandrccars4489 3 жыл бұрын

The red car was so fast because of weight light

@telecomandorc 2 жыл бұрын

It is about a 700g difference. The buggies are light.

@ascreativeandrccars4489 2 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc please join zoom my

@ascreativeandrccars4489 3 жыл бұрын

Bro l love this truck better than my Jeep because of suspension please help me

@telecomandorc 3 жыл бұрын

You Jeep looks very cool. I love the way Jeeps look. But you Jeep is a stock vehicle. It is not really meat to be upgraded. You can try to upgrade anything. I just do not want you to spend too much money upgrading an RC when I think you would be better off saving your money to buy a different model... Such as a Traxxas TRX-4.

@ascreativeandrccars4489 3 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc not so much money

@telecomandorc 3 жыл бұрын

@@ascreativeandrccars4489 Most of us did not at age 11. Therefore, I completely understand. Another reason I would recommend waiting a saving money. Keep in mind that technology changes much faster now than it did in our grandparents' or even great grandparents' time. In their time is was well work fixing something. Now, somethings simply cost less to replace with something newer and better. But there are things work keeping and fixing. With RC one has to be very careful what is worth fixing as fixing and RC may cost more than buying something new.

@ascreativeandrccars4489 3 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc ok please join my link

@ascreativeandrccars4489 3 жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc I saw the parts of my rc jeep

@alantaylor353 Жыл бұрын

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@telecomandorc Жыл бұрын

🤝

@prco148 Жыл бұрын

How do you find rc car tracks

@telecomandorc Жыл бұрын

Many tracks will have information about events for certain race classes like RCFIA which is race in multiple tracks. Other times word of mouth once you find one. Another way is to google rc shops. This is not the easiest as a lot of information is irrelevant or online shops. But sometimes one will come up, and you can go from there. What area are you looking for a Track? CA has a few nice ones. NV had a nice indoor track in Las Vegas. Toronto has a really nice one that is open 24hrs. Or at least it use to be.

@prco148 Жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc Georgia

@telecomandorc Жыл бұрын

@@prco148 🤔Mostly off road there, I think. Try Chehaw in Albany. They may be able to tell you about on road, if you were interested.

@prco148 Жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc what about indoor tracks that are flat? Could I possibly make one with foam tiles? Which material would be best to make an indoor track? Preferably for hoons dboots rc car tires.

@telecomandorc Жыл бұрын

@@prco148 Wow! I may have to visit your future track. Foam is great for mini-Z. But for larger scale vehicles with hoons... you just needs a shop like area with a nice flat concreate pad... I would say black carpet would be perfect for hoons. You can also use grey carpet, but hoons are a little stiffer rubber compared to some TC options. But black carpet is probably the best.

@robg3836 Жыл бұрын

Sorry but the slash looked a lot more controlled and comfortable in the air and over jumps with the high HCG CHASSIS SET UP

@telecomandorc Жыл бұрын

It probably "parachutes" more too. Which is great for soft landings outdoors. It is much faster around a track with the LCG, but it shifts weight and looks cooler with HCG. Even if it is slower, it just looks exiting.

@robg3836 Жыл бұрын

@@telecomandorc no they both parachute same when in the air and the body and dimension s are still the same in the air

@telecomandorc Жыл бұрын

@@robg3836 I was thinking about the dynamics of a bell or types of culverts in fluid dynamics. Since the LCG chassis is near or below the body line, it would not allow as much air flow under the body as the HCG which is more of a "bell" (it's a stretch) but it could allow for air to flow faster under the vehicle and up to the body. But it is probably negligible indoors. So, you are probably right.