I love my CSA Vz.58, very reliable, much more ergonomic then an AKM and more fun to shoot, cheers from Switzerland!

I’ve got one the Century Arms 2008 back in 2015 when they were like $550 with the 5 mags n cleaning kit and put over 2500 rounds through. I’ve only had 1 FTF other then that no issues what so ever. The only Con with these is the pause in the trigger pull when you try to fire really fast. Mags can Be hard to find but other then that it’s pretty solid for a Century build. So far it’s been pretty reliable over the years

I got a VZ2008 and love it because they are so rare to find.

My CA Vz 2008 is a great shooter and the only problem I had was the pin for the gas block worked itself out but it was an easy fix. Also, I got a Vz 58 in 5.56mm from you a couple years ago and it is a fantastic rifle. I was able to hit steel out to 600 yards no problem and the rifle just flat out runs and shoots great. Thanks Misha!

hey Misha, thanks for the info. I just picked up one from Atlantic as they just came back in stock! Polymer version instead of wood, but beggars can't be choosers. Stupid excited to get one in. I almost broke down and got the VZ2008 the other day, but glad I waited.. $1099 is NOT bad for what you get with these guns

I own both of these rifles. The Czechpoint one has original military barrel & is flawless. The century has a canted front sight& I had to have a tab welded onto the bolt to eliminate the " trigger gremlin" ( not resetting). Although the Century one isn't perfect..it's a great shooter like the Czechpoint rifle. Love them both..Thanks for the several videos you've made on the VZ58 Misha..this is a underrated rifle. 👍

Great video Misha! Thanks. Rich.

Excellent video Misha! I always enjoy learning more about the VZ series of rifles, they are very nice firearms for sure. My connection to the VZ series of rifles though has recently hit a major political roadblock. Up here in Canada, our Federal Government banned all VZ/CZ/CSA series of rifles, along with 1500 other types of firearms on 1 May 2020 (May Day ironically). Basically if the rifle was semi-auto, mag fed, and black, kiss it goodbye. They even banned some bolt-action rifles in larger calibers, and even certain 12ga and 10ga shotguns. The VZ series of rifles are very popular here in Canada due to their short length, light weight, and reliability in all types of weather, so this ban impacts 1000's of us in Canada. Our pro-gun organizations have several court cases pending against our Federal Government to get the ban overturned, and find out what information if any the government used as a basis for the ban. The ban itself was done behind closed doors and off the record using what is know as an Order In Council, there was no discussion or debating on it, yet we are all faced with confiscation of property, potential for police use of force, and imprisonment if we don't comply. How's that for a country that claims to be democratic? Apologies for my politiking here, just thought that viewers have to made aware that guns in the hands of peaceful citizens have 2 enemies, rust and politicians! Please keep up the good work on your videos, you are truly a treasure trove of information.

In Canada, it's known as "beaver barf" furniture.

I love my vz 2008 payed about 375 at psa and it came with four mag sling cleaning kit

Folders look cooler than fixed, but are significantly less pleasant to shoot, replaced mine with a fixed beaver barf. Movie trivia: in Full Metal Jacket, the sniper at the end was armed with a vz58, not an AKM.

Absolutely love the “Beaver Barf” furniture.

Didn't you one time mention that you had a Waffenwerks story for another time on the VZ 58? Would be interested in hearing that one!

Glad I saw this. Can't use a 2008 as my goto. THANKS!

On the CZA how do you remove the sling from the rear?

Despite there reportedly being a slim chance that a VZ 2008 might have any issue, I didn't want to even think about the possibility, nor the possible repair charge which is typical of a specific Memphis-area gunsmith I used (he's certified and Very pricey). * Having sold two seldom-used guns provided the cash for a "NIB" Czechpoint VZ, almost a year ago. It's nice to have the highest quality control, which is also why All four of my "actual AKMs" are imported: Maadi etc.

As for the receivers being a rough casting and then milled into the spec - that was a thing with the whole gun. It was designed with that in mind and the factory at that time started cooperation with another non-firearms Czechoslovak company and gained a pretty good knowledge in that area. From what I know, for example the breech lock is a casted piece to avoid the expensive and time consuming milling process. I believe, the receiver should be the same case just like the bolt itself. I know for sure that CZ-70 pistols, Vz. 61 Skorpions or CZ-75s have casted lowers and are not CNC milled from a huge chunk of steel.

Let’s debate the qualities of receivers compared dtech vz2008 and csa58 How many rounds are through your model and what do your receivers look like with rail peening comparably. I have a csa 58 with 3k through it And a vz2008 with 3.5k and can’t tell a single difference. I think this is one century got right, even though most of it was contracted out of house

Vz2008 overgassed? I'll try some brown bear subsonic through mine. Rob Ski was unable to cycle subsonic through his vz58 consistently. I'm thinking the vz2008 might be able to do it.

Misha, have you changed out the polymer trigger on any of your CSA VZ58s? Any experience with the CNC Warrior trigger or fire control parts?

Other than the stock being designed for midgets, the VZ is lovely. Add a muzzle brake and a reliable optics mount, and it's a great shooter. For some reason, the side-rail optics mounts would always shift under recoil, regardless of clamp tension... So I switched to a Czech-made "RRarms" mount. Now it's a 2-3 MOA gun all day. 🙂

Mine is CZ 58 2008 import D-Tec a decade ago. NO BAYO MOUNT AND BARREL NUT NOT REMOVABLE. They were built with original barrels which were under 16 inches. Mine $300 more than CAI's. Good video

I just bought a century arms lower reciever for a parts kit i got from apex.

So if the barrel has enough unfinished ridges instead of being smooth to the touch, would that do anything at all for heat dispersion? Or is it just not enough to matter? I would think the surface area could double.

My VZ2008 had a trigger issue. The trigger would not reset on occasion and the trigger would be dead and then through several presses it would suddenly fire. So I had to find a new trigger and put in it and now it runs fine I never had any malfunctions with feeding or ejection just he trigger issue.

Is this the one on gunbroker?

In contrast, how are blocks of steel typically derived, if not by cast? I’m pretty ignorant to how raw materials are transformed and used.

That's a good point on the recoil. That muzzle device you've got on it kind of is a necessity. We're not talking .308 AR recoil, but it is more than you should expect out of a 7.62×39mm carbine. CNC Warrior is pretty cool with those muzzle devices.

Can we get a video comparing the pm63-65-80/90 vs the wasr and Draco?

my Vz.58 from CSA is one of the best rifles I own. Shoots like a dream, and better than the POS 2008 I had with the trigger gremlin

I got enough of guns like this, still want to replace my 2008 (and Mini 14 GB)

Does that Czec Vz 58 have a imported extractor inside of the receiver????

Factory built is always the only choice for me.

Mishaco, What's your opinion on Ohio Ordinance Works VZ2000 (OOW) clone including comparing to CSA and CAI clone ? Fair price for OOW today ?......sammy

I have a waffen works built receiver cz sa sporter ? Ever heard of it?

Whats the mag situation on these? Can new mags be found for these?

This rifle is something I haven't seen before. It's very stylish. The furniture is Coca Cola granite, and its geometry is so curious. Just between these two examples, every single part looks like the _funnest_ thing to 3D model.

I'd like to have my vz2008 drilled and tapped for an optics rail. Would you have a source for that?

I love these rifles. I want the csa cqb model so bad..

CSA vs vs858 katori vintovka luchshe?

Neat

I have always loved this rifle....it was on my radar ...kinda still is 👍🏻👍🏻

I have the century and czechpoint one. They are both great, but the czechpoint is better

Honestly the CSA prices have continued to float around $1100-$1200 and I don't see a Century for less than $700-$800 in most cases. If it is an issue of economics, I would say save up a little longer and get a rifle that's a MASSIVE jump in quality for only another $300-$400. CzechPoint USA also has very very good customer service, where Century likely doesn't even support their version of this rifle any longer. Buy once, cry once.

My VZ2008 has been fine. Has definitely had trigger gremlin hickups here and there but it was $400 and it's a range toy. Don't care enough to have it fixed and it wasn't under warranty. 🤷‍♂️

I hate century firearms . They have access to so many imported parts kits and they proceed to cut corners and sell an inferior version of the gun they are attempting to clone. The average weekend shooter won’t notice the durability has been cut in thirds and there’s accuracy loss, but serious shooters will know that they are using an inferior version after 1-2k rounds (if the Gun even survives that long)

CSA Vz 58? Are you telling me that one was taken off Stonewall Jackson and hidden all these years?

I like the VZ2008…but the CSA VZ58 is much higher quality.

The VZ 58 in cal 7.62 x 39 is a fine rifle. It may not be as reliable as the AK rifles but it is far more accurate and very much lighter .As usual this is an excellent presentation

If you want one get the CSA, D-Teknik, or CZ-USA. Not the Century the receivers are out of specification and the barrels aren’t the best.

Beaver barf furniture.👍

If you don't already own an AK and have a ton of AK mags lying around, then a Vz.58 from Czechpoint is probably the best rifle in the caliber you can get. The build quality and lightness cannot be overstated. It just sucks to have to get the proprietary mags that in the gatpocalyspe will make the gun basically useless in the long term.

My safety selector walks its self out while shooting. Then a dead trigger happens.

CSA is the only choice with the CHF Walther barrel.

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I have a d tehenic vz58 sporter I think it is a walther barrel the sn is under 600 and you didn't buy out all of the vz's did you misha 2k boy

I love my VZ2008. Picked it up years ago for $449 w/ 4 mags. It has the awful folding stock though, and your point about recoil is spot on. It's not really a pleasant gun to shoot with the recoil and that awful stock. Still, overall, super pleased with what I paid. That said, I don't know if I'd pay 800+

Soon. 😏

I WLL NEVER PURCHASE THE 2008 , ALL KIND OF JAMMING PROBLEMS

So, the question remains which one is right for you? Lol

czech small arms is literally always out of stock, i want a vz58 pistol and vz61 in 9x18 so bad

The country is known as Czechia not the Czech Republic.