Did I miss the part where he talked about the GH5?

Prefer this type of real world review then all the hype of the others. Thanks for sharing.

Hey Dave.. no need to apologize. You're no idiot, you're just someone who really loves his cameras.... no matter the brand! Keep up the awesome work, and stay motivated!!! I'm always watching your material.

Ok, you hardly talked about the GH5, maybe a second video?

Thanks for doing this video Dave, very interesting. Although, I wish you'd have spent a bit more time comparing the GH5 footage.

I’ve got influenca, so I always appreciate your balanced, well thought out, and practical reviews.

You are not an idiot. Thanks for being such a inspiration figure throughout all these years. I moved to Sony with you, I tried to build a desktop with your tips, I've followed your tips all over, I have the same pursue to the skin colors maybe because of you. (that's why I'm with the BMPCC now). I wish I have the same humble way to teach as you. Thanks for all those years.

Wanted to add my voice to those telling you that your videos are always great, and you've got useful insights to share. Don't listen to the haters, Dave. Don't even put in the time to argue back at them - it's not worth it. Just keep doing the great work you do and stay positive!

What happened to the GH5 comparison yikes!

Dave, I've been your subscriber since 2014 and I just want to say that your content is amazing! You might not be influencing 'many' people but the one's that do watch surely feel influenced!

Not much on the GH5. I use that camera and very pleased with it, though I shoot manual and narrative films or docs.

You're not an idiot Dave, you're just someone comparing your experiences to the cameras you're using and I for one appreciate your take on it keep up the good work sir 👍

Very good real life comparison, thanks Dave for putting this together and sharing.

You should take the GH5 out of the title since you didn't actually compare it to anything in this video.

Good work Dave. Very humble and straight to the point. Miss seeing your videos. What happened to the weekly videos?

A video! Hooray!!! 2,300 clips. Holy review footage Batman!

no gimmicks no editing skills here just nothing to keep the mass interested . . . . . you stick to the core and one could get all the info they need in just 5 min of watching your content. Keep doing it and this will be one of the best channels out there. GREAT WORK DON'T GIVE IN.

You are so right about using auto settings for run and gun. It’s good enough and almost mandatory in many situations. I am using my GH5 this way more often now that the auto focus is usable. Also, you can adjust so much in post with Resolve. Nice 👍🏻.

Always appreciate your videos Dave, keep it up. :)

I am not a shooter of any of these brands but have always liked your videos all the same. But this is the first time any of your content has popped up in my feed in awhile. I hate to hear the trolls are getting you down. I will just say keep up the good work and keep on keeping on. Cheers

Miss you Dave

always enjoy the practical approach

Thanks Dave. I always appreciate your videos!

Haters gonna hate. Dave, as always great video. I like Canon colors but switched to Sony a long time ago.

Always appreciate your videos! I am really pleased also with sony's awb!

Thank you for making this comparison, Dave! I've actually been using more of the auto features on my GH5 lately and have been loving it. I've been especially surprised with the auto WB - a revelation for me in run and gun situations. It sucks that you felt you needed to repeatedly explain your methods and reasoning, but unfortunately many don't realize that their way of shooting isn't the only way.

The warmth in the clip was due to the sun. As you can see in the comparison Canon clip is more sunny than the Sony clip. Loved the colors on Canon

Thanks Dave, interesting real-world comparison!

Another great video! Thanks man

I've been following you since day one Dave and you've always had the most reliable, real life comparison and reviews. I'm currently shooting with Canon R and GH5. I can't wait to see what A7Siii brings to the mix. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

Good video but maybe a little more time on the GH5 would have been nice.

Thanks for the video! I have had the opposite experience. Likely because I have been shooting in door volleyball. Just sold My GH5 and sent back my S1 to now use an EOS R. While it doesn’t do slow motion as good, I have a better picture out of It more consistently in doors, sometimes in poor lighting. White balance always stays the same, which helps!

fun video, always like your videos and understand this is not a A,B,C test but more of a 16 weeks of use compresed in to a short video review/comparison. in every way 16 weeks of use has a lot more insight. only thing i can say is looks like the canon has much more satration which will make WB problems much biger. kind of wish the GH5 had a bit more time too. been watching your videos since i got a canon 500D, always fun

Very interesting results. I think your testing reflects a real world usage situation.

B R I L L I A N T, and thank you for such an awesome comparison video. New Sub. Cheers from Western Australia

Hey dave you are.. highway.. no need to worry.. n you r one whose videos n explanation i admire .. i also bought my canon 60d just by wtching you video.. so relax.. we are with you..

Agree with you on everything you say about these three cameras. Either there is something wrong with your Canon R or it is simply a bad camera. I tend to think it's the latter as aside from the AWB, the way it captures the blue of the water looks completely all wrong, with poor control of highlight gammas and also the entire scene of the full sun lit out-of-water shots. You know what my favorite camera from this video is? The Canon 5D Mk3. That camera really nails the AWB and has the best color.

for 1 negative comment are you ignoring 100s +ve comments? Is that what keeping you away from youtube? Pls post more often. Love your videos.

great thoughts on these Dave, thanks for looking at these

Nice to see some real world examples with these cameras... so much stuff is from people pretending they are shooting a 'movie'. The pictures from the Sony do look surprisingly good compared to the other two and the focus looked nailed on the long lens shots. Did you use auto focus on all three? Would be good to know how that also matches up on with real world use... my GH5 is better than it used to be with Lumix lenses, but I rarely find it good enough for run-n-gun video work. Take care, Paul

Great comparison Dave. I’ve seen this myself with the canon R, when I rented one. Don’t really know what they did from the good old 5D2/3 days. But they have Definitely changed the tones some how. What I have noticed from shooting with a a73 is, that if people go in to a dark shaded area the skin tones move more towards the green, when they are normally just slightly in the red (well for me). But it’s the only big hiccup I could give it with the skin tones. Sony have really done well with the tone change in the 3 series. I now like them more than what I get out of my c100 mk2 and I didn’t see that coming

Very good comparison !

thanks a lot. it was useful and informative!

Always on point Dave 👍

Hey Dave, don't read comments! You're the greatest reviewer in my books. If you are at all worried about subscribers or views, I think you lost the interest of a lot of people by switching to Resolve. They just have a much smaller user base. It definitely didn't have anything to do with the quality of your work.

I'm from a Canon background, bailed to get into Black Magic, and i think i agree with you here. Sony seemed to have really picked up their color game

You are certainly not an idiot ... I can confirm each dot of your observations.

Great review, thanks.

In fairness, the Eos R is in no way a camera you should be shooting video on, other than vacation footage. You'd think Canon would try to be competitive but they are running their regular "let's protect our cinema line" game. They got good AF though. I might still get a EOS R (at least if they come out with a model with IBIS) - as I have some EF lenses, and I can keep shooting video on my Panasonic G9.

Amazing job,

Sad you experience bad comments, love your work, keep going on Dave :)

Nice video with out the usual KZfaq hype. I would have to say, however, that many of your comments are based totally on subjective opinions - especially your judgements of which images are too warm and cool. To my eye, the Canon R captures every scene in the sunshine better in terms of color. Sunshine, in real life, warms the colors. They should not be the same as in the shade or under cloudy skies, or indoors. Sony did not pick up that warmth and their WB seems to correct for the actual effect of sunlight warming the colors by making them cooler. In other videos I have seen, this happens with Panasonic as well. And I realize you took some type of measurement in your initial scene where you compare the exposure of the water, but the Canon is clearly overexposed and the Sony underexposed. Having owned both the R and the Sony A7 II, I am not surprised. The Sony underexposed everything by about 1 1/2 stops and the Canon tends to overexposed by maybe a 1/2 stop. I also briefly owned the Sony A7, and that underexposed pretty substantially as well.

Gracias por tu trabajo, llevavamos tiempo esperandolo. Saludos desde el norte argentino.

Good to see you back. I have noticed with my gh5 through the standard profile makes the green grass look odd in some light going to try the natural profile.

thank you for the comparison. good to see you again

Nice video. The GH5 appeared to be the clear winner, the only one capable of 4K 60p. I wonder why you didn't comment more on it. 4k isn't just for 4k output either. It allows cropping, close ups, and zooming in post.

Hi Dave. Most odd. As you know - better than me! - Canon is usually regarded as having good colour (or color!) science (ie looks the way most people perceive color) and Sony often appeared a bit green as they captured more of the gamut - a sort of technical rather than artistic approach. It would be really helpful if you could get your hands on another EOS R - not direct from Canon, of course, and replicate a just a few of the shots.Thanks for posting. BobUK.

Hi Dave, I think this is a great video. It's evident that it's possible, even better sometimes to switch into "AUTO" and start shooting. People won't care watching these type of videos whether their "pro" quality. They want to see their children and that style of shooting works fine. Great work. Thanks again.

Why so few GH5 clips?

Thanks for the post. It seems you remain pleased with the Sony footage, is the operation of it also acceptable to you after the summer experiment? I shoot an A7R2 and am just digging into video.

I must say that i prefered Canon colors over Sonys. I own one Sony and i am fine with their colors but i prefered warm look of that Canon R.

R is just a worse version of 5D IV but with better af.

By the way, I too chose Sony a long time ago. I much prefer to see what my shots will really look like before I press the shutter release.

So Canon has 2 AWB options (Ambient and White Priority) and you don't like the one Canon picked out of the box. Got it.

would be nice to see this same comparison but with Log. Good video, thanks

Good to see you back. Did you forget to include the GH5 footage? This is all Sony and Canon and why only 1080p? That being said, the Canon colors looked a little warm and I like the Sony colors more and it looks like the Canon colors are slightly more saturated? Have you tested the dynamic range of the Canon and Sony cameras? I think the A7RIII has slightly more dynamic range than the Canon.

Finally I hadn't seen a vid from Dave in awhile , I thought you were shooting a film or something. I figured that's why we hadn't seen vids

Is there an auto WB mode with "white" priority on the canon? That helps on my 80D.

For the Canon did you set awb or awb white priority?

great job!

Hi Dave, shame you used GH5 as click bait?

Any Fuji testing in your future?

Sorry you're getting a lot of jerk comments! I get a bunch of them on my channel too. I guess that there are a lot of people out there who think that there's only one way to shoot video and that anybody who dares to try to share something that they're passionate about on youtube, but not done in exactly the same way needs to be punished for their transgressions! Sometimes it helps me to feel better to go check out the channels of the worst and rudest of them, just to confirm that the vast majority of these "experts" have exactly 0 videos uploaded to youtube. Anyway, your conclusions in this video seem sound enough - and completely agreed that there are times for "auto" settings. If we all had unlimited time to set up and light every single thing as well as a dedicated focus puller, then maybe there would be no use for autofocus/auto white balance/auto iso... but I like to find cameras where I can reasonably trust the auto settings for times when I'm out vlogging, etc. If not in a controlled/quiet environment, it's way too easy to miss one or two settings and then regret it later. Don't let the jerks of youtube comment sections get you down too much!

If the canon was 10bit internally and had full sensor 4k. Geesh... I'd use that any day. It just feels better.

where you at brother?

Did you try using auto white balance with white priority on the eos R?

you are definetly not an idiot hehe... i saw many times this red skin issue in canons :)

You're certainly no idiot, Dave. As you said, when you have multiple light sources, auto WB can be helpful, especially when you need to deliver the job quickly. Sounds like you ended up doing a lot of post-processing anyways, though. One advantage of using a set custom WB is that once you find the adjustment for the artificial light, or cloud cover, you can set that as a preset and copy it to all affected clips, which is faster than trying to fix auto WB issues that change depending on the colors of objects within the scene. You can even correct transitions from one light source to another by applying the corrections to clips, and fading the clips between each other. Of course, I don't use Resolve, so I'm not familiar with how all this is done. On Vegas, it's drop-dead simple. And the new version is even starting to incorporate Resolve-style color grading tools.

Looks like Sony is the winner for me.

You're definitely not an idiot. People who would say so have a problem. Good practical review.

It's like we're not looking at the same image :) Canon image is way more natural, while Sony one is too cold, or too green, and everything is pretty much dead compared to Canons vibrant image. Those shots you call "too warm" are pretty much spot on, and that old 5D3 material looks like crap :) Maybe you should calibrate your monitor, or buy a better one (calibrated iMac 5k here).

Interesting comparison. I'm surprised that you brought the GH5 into a situation like that since I'd be so busy with focusing than getting the shot.

Subbed and bell on but still only find out your video is out by seeing the link on the 43Rumors page :/

There's undeniable hidden magic to the 5DM3 - always look so appealing and magical. It is so sad that technology many times go backwards as many camera designers are more "engineers" than "working professionals" who are more artsy and aware of color subtleties. This reminds me of the Audio world, where the high-end recording studio still using Neve Pre-amps and consoles from the 70's only because the Sonic quality became only worse through the years. I was also curious about Panasonic GH5 said very little of, I am always stunned by the GH5/GH5s look. lately, I came across this video which suggest that Panasonic has an "Analog" Sensor in contrast of a "Digital" sensor. which again, reminds me of the audio world: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/os9jpbqi3crLl5c.html

What about photos??

No Nikon Z6?

What Picture style did you use on the Canon?

You are not an idiot.

Hi! Were you using AWB or AWB-W on the R?

You must be kidding to upload this video about 4k cams at 1080p? :D

in 1080p? why Dave?

Hey Dave! Great Content. Joe AYH Leader made an amazing Cutting board w our route inside America outline. He has one for you . Hit me up ! Hope all is good .

If you are only comparing cameras in auto mode, stop right now.

Changing wb presets means scrolling a wheel. This is being lazy

🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️