Comparing speeds of 20 inflatable kayaks + more

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J Baikoff

J Baikoff

Күн бұрын

If you ever wondered how much kayaks range in speed - this video is attempting to answer that question.

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@denisgilbert1283
@denisgilbert1283 7 ай бұрын
A video comparing inflatable kayaks and you don't have a proper pump? Man, priorities. Enjoying the video, very useful, thanks.
@grbcmom6928
@grbcmom6928 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information - your videos are always educational and helpful. We purchased two Aquaglide Chelan this year, and enjoy them - we are not going for speed thus far, so they suit each of us and a doggie passenger just fine. Look forward to further installments down the road.
@FL-ez3dk
@FL-ez3dk 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Jack! I can’t wait for spring season with our wonderful crew !
@cre8iveworks
@cre8iveworks 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and interesting comparisons! I think all of these kayaks are good space saving options. I have the Tucktec foldable kayak, the Advanced Elements 'Advanced Frame' inflatable kayak and the hardshell nesting modular Pakayak 14' kayak. I really enjoy all of the kayaks and the differences and limitations for each. All three are recreational kayaks, but are made for different water conditions. The Tucktec is a great kayak for calm waters and works well since it packs down small. It's not engineered for speed, but for a very leisure paddle on still and sheltered water (lakes, calm creeks, etc.). The Advanced Elements is a great kayak as well, but wouldnt compare this to longer 'faster' boats that are intended to gain a greater distance within a length of time. The Advanced Elements kayak is a very stable and rugged inflatable kayak that can be used in up to class II rapids, so its a bit more versatile than a foldable and yet still very stable to take camera gear along. It also offers great options to customize the boat for your needs. For example, for even better tracking, I use the backbone and since the floor is a little too soft for me, I also added the 'Durafloor'. To me, this is one of the most stable kayaks. Well, actually, the Point 65 'Martini' is by far the most stable two-piece modular kayak, but that wasnt included in the lineup. The Pakayak also wasnt included, but is a great option for a recreational hardshell kayak that breaks down into 6 pieces. By the nature of the size and design, the Pakayak will be faster than the foldable and inflatable, but is also a recreational kayak that if compared to a SKUK or a P&H, it would probably come up quite short. I guess my point is, all kayaks are great to a degree of 'just being happy to be on the water' and yet still have their limitations based on the design and intended use.
@coolcaasports
@coolcaasports 11 ай бұрын
Great video
@Creativelomax
@Creativelomax 2 жыл бұрын
Jack, this segment turned out very well. Yes, my filming was a little out of focus, but your clear narrative and slick graphics kept me engaged and interesting. As an informational video thats more important. Good luck 👍
@allonsy9808
@allonsy9808 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the razor lite performed well. 😊 I have the Razorlite 393 and really like it. The seat is terribly hard for long days of paddling, but I love the footrests and sleekness of the kayak. Thank you for the video!
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
Huh, interesting about the seats. i find them yo be betfer than any other I've ever seen.
@turbod15
@turbod15 Жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures had to return mine had defect
@stevesampier527
@stevesampier527 Жыл бұрын
I have that Advanced Elements kayak and it is over 10 years old. Good thing you were clear about it being underinflated, because it was significanlty underinflated. And talk about an unfair comparison. However, even properly inflated, it paddles like a bathtub.
@alexandrospotamianos3546
@alexandrospotamianos3546 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video - thanks! A have owned 4-5 inflatables/foldables over the course of the past 20 years and here are general comments on speed: 1) there is a tradeoff between speed and balance that you should consider: balance is more important for expedition kayaking where you carry lots of gear vs speed which is important for day trips, 2) dropstitch floor is the most important component of a speedy boat it will give your boat anything from a 0.4 to 0.6 mph additional speed, e.g., clocking my yellow advanced elements w/o dropstitch and with dropstitch over a 1h paddle the difference is a whooping 0.5 mph: 3 vs 3.5 mph (btw stay away from the red advanced frame shown in this video it is too small/slow), 3) full dropstitch (also on the sides of the boat) might give you another 0.2 mph, 4) there are a few details about hydrodynamics and boat construction that are important, e.g., little tricks like increasing the water flow in the fin area will improve tracking (see the advanced elements expedition elite model curve right before the fin), balancing the boat weight in the back and especially the front of the boat will also improve speed, 5) the super light boats like the (longer versions of the) oru kayak and advanced elements airfusion are super fast but balance is a bit of an issue, 6) speed when paddling against the wind or in waves: the more rigid and better tracking boats will do much much better. All in all: if speed is your thing buy a full dropstitch boat or a pakayak (my choice) or an oru (bay or coast models). For (ocean) expedition kayaking my personal choice is still the advanced elements expedition elite (but there are pet-peeves there; message me if interested to learn more about how these boats behave for expedition kayaking).
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
Man, you sure have a lot of data! Maybe you should make videos about this stuff. You seem to be more knowledgeable than me. Where are you located?
@alexandrospotamianos3546
@alexandrospotamianos3546 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures currently in LA, but did most of my kayaking in the Greek islands solo, with groups of friends or off sailboats. Started kayaking with a seaeagle while living in the island of Crete and then graduated to advanced element boats.
@religionisapoison2413
@religionisapoison2413 Жыл бұрын
Great job bringing in the terravent. Never would have known it existed
@DIYUSA
@DIYUSA Жыл бұрын
Excellent video! Thanks for sharing the interesting info. Subscribed!
@ser6ioT
@ser6ioT Жыл бұрын
Very nice und detailed video! Many thanks from Germany:)
@tessvandijk2351
@tessvandijk2351 Жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for sharing. We bought 2 razor lites and now have ordered a tandem from China. Couldn’t afford another Sea Eagle. Thanks for the info.
@almuhito
@almuhito Жыл бұрын
Hi Jack, great video. Do you have the purchasing link for the generic drop stitch kayak that looks pretty identical to the razor lite?
@LeadingPaws
@LeadingPaws 11 ай бұрын
It’s directly shipped from China, like everything else on earth lol. They cost about 250 and sell from 500-1500 depending on how greedy the companies who rebrand them set their prices.
@rvaillant
@rvaillant 10 ай бұрын
Thanks. Still would be awesome if you could post a link for the Generic kayak. Thanks
@jameswang9487
@jameswang9487 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for another wonderful and informative video Jack. I was wondering if you could do a video on different mounts for secure video taking on the inflatable kayaks with a cell phone (without needing to buy a gopro)?
@gloppy101
@gloppy101 Жыл бұрын
Jack, that Aire kayak is known as the Aire Sawtooth. I had one it's built like a tank with heavy duty materials. To cure the wet ride (it'a open scupper design since a ww hybrid/touring) use a stadium seat. They work great, especially on this kayak. Build quality is argubly better than any of those in your group.
@alexkram
@alexkram Жыл бұрын
I loved this video. Great effort and data. My wife says we look alike.
@3falexchina953
@3falexchina953 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video!!! And very useful.
@wouterkolkman
@wouterkolkman 10 ай бұрын
Fun!- enjoyed watching.
@hoseinesmaeeli291
@hoseinesmaeeli291 2 жыл бұрын
Great job I never like any videos but you help to knowledge of amateurs like me 👌
@redblue7733
@redblue7733 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video. Thanks
@bonnieborgeson3200
@bonnieborgeson3200 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, Jack, very informative. Have you tried the Aquagluide Blackfoot 130? I'm having a debate with myself as which to purchase. Touring, fishing. Thanks again.
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
I did! in fact I am working on making a video about it. That kayak impressed me more than I expected.
@brancebjones7205
@brancebjones7205 2 жыл бұрын
I'm very much looking forward to the video on ordering a cheap chinese knock-off of the Sea Eagle RLs. I've subscribed :) so i'll be on the lookout. Good luck!
@devonsuggs2256
@devonsuggs2256 2 жыл бұрын
I’m loving your videos and I’m finding them very helpful as I’m in the market looking for a great white water Kayak that can handle class 1-3 rapids with an occasional class 4 rapid. What specific top 3 kayaks would you recommend in the 700-1100 dollar range for what I’m looking for?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
Aire and NRS make great kayaks for white water. I am not a specialist in white water.
@reinhard89
@reinhard89 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Jack! Would you say the chinese knock off is pretty much identical to the sea eagle in regards to looks and feel? they look the same to me but I wonder if you notice any major differences in person. Thanks!
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
no major differences. just a bunch of details
@edutiss
@edutiss 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures do you know any reliable places to get it or is it from alibaba?
@jezmarshall9941
@jezmarshall9941 Жыл бұрын
Superb as usual. I'd really like to see some Gumotex/Innova models included in your tests.
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
They are soooo rare here. i would totally include them, but getting them is really hard.
@DavidGobeil
@DavidGobeil Жыл бұрын
Great review! Could you give tell me where to find the generic drop stitch kayak? Much appreciated, thanks!
@stephaniea9722
@stephaniea9722 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video! I think you did an excellent job with what you had to work with. Personally I got a Sea Eagle 385ft for a good deal recently. It was very comfortable and stable with two people in it. Sad I didn't see it in this comparison (it's different than all the others with the keel in the bow). It felt effortless to move. The only thing I worry about is the glued seams. I've heard they can separate. I'm looking to buy a 2nd inflatable but the ones that I am interested in also aren't in this video: The Driftsun Rover 220 and NVS Star Paragon XL. The Driftsun is the most interesting one to me because it's less than 30lbs. But I just don't see many reviews on it. The NVS Star kayaks look like they're built like a tank (and weigh like them too). We have a lot of submerged trees here so I want something durable too. There are so many tradeoffs - Speed, durability, stability, and weight - all are important to me. I don't see a "Unicorn" in the mix (unless you have one hidden behind the camera).
@BaconPretzel
@BaconPretzel Жыл бұрын
I have the 385FT too. Sick boat. I believe they resolved the seam issue. It was a problem on models manufactured before 2014. The current models (2014 onwards) and 98% electronically welded and 2%gl glued where they cannot physically weld.
@coolcaasports
@coolcaasports 11 ай бұрын
Great video
@ofer3877
@ofer3877 3 ай бұрын
Hi, great video, thank you for that. Do you know where I can get the Chinese version of Razorlite kayak? Thanks
@jillk1221
@jillk1221 Ай бұрын
Very informative video. Can you comment on how the footbraces in the Sea Eagle Razor Lite compare with the more common footrests found in most inflatables which stetch between two D rings?
@2pranjalgururani
@2pranjalgururani 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video Jack. From your experience, can u comment how fast do u think Aquaglide Deschutes 145 would be? I am interested to know as I have it
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
I'd expect it to be a bit slower than the other two kayaks from this manufacturer that I tested. Since it's wider.
@2pranjalgururani
@2pranjalgururani 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures thank you. I never measure my speed but I have found it to be a slow kayak
@mystudentvideos
@mystudentvideos 2 жыл бұрын
I have watched a few of your videos. I appreciate the information and have learned so much. Unfortunately, due to financial constraints, I am limited to a category one kayak. Based on that, I would really appreciate one recommendation from that grouping. Thank you for your time.
@ademite
@ademite 2 жыл бұрын
I'm getting the explorer k2 seems good enough to get out in the water and have fun. Just don't buy it on amazon i hear the company intex doesn't do refunds if purchased through amazon. Unless you just return it through amazon but i'd imagine you would need to buy a 3rd party warranty which generally you should stay away from those as they always come up with reasons to not warranty your stuff. quick google search would confirm that. I also own a regular 14ft fishing sit on top kayak thing is a tank but solid for spearfishing or fishing.
@bluedoggum8373
@bluedoggum8373 Жыл бұрын
Can you link to the sea eagle Chinese version youd recommend. Thanks. Nice vid.
@dickhaskins9273
@dickhaskins9273 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Wife and I are looking into kayaks and this vid has helped. Is there a seller of the Generic DropStitch in the US or Canada?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
No, they aren't legal to be sold in this country
@philhager
@philhager Жыл бұрын
Nice, informative presentation. I flyfish and am looking at the Saturn for the ability to move around while casting. Some questions for you. (Hard to cast and maneuver at the same time. Pedal could help on that.) 1. Do you currently have one I could check out? (Live in Gresham so easy drive to look at it.) 2. How "fast" does it travel while rowing? (Looking at flow speed VS rowing speed to row upstream in some rivers. Row up, drift and fish back down) 3. Where did you shoot the video? (Might want to fish there.) Thanks for any assist you might offer.
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
I wish we connected earlier, I had that kayak. Now I left for indefinite period world travels. Paddling speed would probably be similar. As you can see count on being able to paddle about 3mph sustained, 4 peak. Or so
@philhager
@philhager Жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures Thank you for replying. No problem. Have a good trip.
@yellowglider
@yellowglider 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video… Any chance you can post a link to that Razorlite knockoff? And, have you ever had the chance to try a Bote Zeppelin?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
No and no.
@KayakingVince
@KayakingVince 11 ай бұрын
Great selection and fascinating results. A real shame you don't have an Itiwit X500 to compare to the sea kayak though.
@midestinoelmundo
@midestinoelmundo 10 ай бұрын
Thank you 👏👏👏👏👏 muchas gracias! Muy bueno!
@Pathstobalance
@Pathstobalance Жыл бұрын
This was great! Appreciate the objectivity. Wonder how the paddleboard would do with a kayak paddle, I suspect faster
@Pathstobalance
@Pathstobalance Жыл бұрын
@@txemaarechabala6639 very interesting thanks for sharing, I think you inspired me to keep my SUP (: I was way more into kayaking at the end of last season, but you are right SUPs offer alot of options which yaks do not.. Cheers!
@canoecycle7005
@canoecycle7005 2 жыл бұрын
First of all really enjoyed the video & thank you for confirming what I already new. I have a friend that has a lot of subscribers who has been using his inflatable kayak along the coast wanting to ask him to add a warning about the speed of the tide & the wind doesn't mix well with inflatable kayaks. He has no kayaking experience prior this. Looking for the best way to put this across
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
I'd use a simple rule of thumb - if you don't have enough kayaking experience to clearly answer the question "Should I go paddling on the ocean?" The answer is a No.
@chriswelzel58
@chriswelzel58 2 жыл бұрын
Hi from down under Jack. The peddle canoes are to enable you to fish as you move through the water. You paddle to get to a location then peddle as you flick lures as you need two hands to fish.
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
I don't fish, so I won't pretend I understand much about that.
@djkubuss
@djkubuss 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jack Great Channel!! What do you think about aquaglide chinook 120 ?? Is any good ??
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
I havent paddled it myself, but it is a decen Cat2 kayak
@sharonpage7476
@sharonpage7476 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video! Where did you order the generic drop-stitched kayak? I was on the verge of getting the Sea Eagle to use on about 10 hrs of club paddles a year where I don't want to use my CF racing boat. But would love to get one even cheaper than the Sea Eagle. Thanks!
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
Good question. check out Alibaba. But even better I am working on creating an alternative kayak before spring.
@sharonpage7476
@sharonpage7476 Жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures that's great! You know inflatable kayaks like nobody else. I've watched all your review and comparison videos and plan to get one next year. I did find one "brand" available in the U.S. that is drop-stitched, likely purchased in bulk from Alibaba and rebranded, but not sure if it's as good/fast as the version you showed in the video, which matched Sea Eagle for speed. Okay, I'll stay tuned... :-)
@faithshort5715
@faithshort5715 9 ай бұрын
@@inneradventuresAny update on this project?
@himabimdimwim
@himabimdimwim 2 жыл бұрын
You seemed quite fond of the AG Chelan 155. I'm currently looking to purchase that kayak, do you have any big complaints or highlights for this product vs something like the SE razorlite?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
I do love that kayak, true. I mentioned the skeg that is annoying. hopefully newer ones have simpler skeg.
@gloppy101
@gloppy101 2 жыл бұрын
Look at the Saturn Ocean Pro 420 at 14' with a raised drop stitch floor and twin (removable) skegs. Big and fast too since less floor drag. Much better price vs the AG.
@MC19PO
@MC19PO 2 жыл бұрын
Jack - for 2 people traversing inland lakes and rivers, do you prefer the 473rl or the convertible Elite. I know the Elite is only drop stitched on bottom.
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
i haven't paddled the Elite, so I don't know
@PeterKolta
@PeterKolta 2 жыл бұрын
Good to see you again, Jack! Next Time you're welcome to test my Gumotex Twist 2 ín Hungary! The Chinese foldable seems great. I wonder how durable it is and hope it doesn't fall into pieces after a couple of times.
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
Hungary is certainly a country I've wanted to visit! And Gumptex is a brand I've heard a lot about, so I'll keep this in mind. Chinese foldable seems to be made from the same exact material as Oru, so I hope it lasts a while
@kulmofo
@kulmofo 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures can I ask where you purchased the knock off
@gloppy101
@gloppy101 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures is that the Forest Gumptex model? LOL
@gilleslemay3690
@gilleslemay3690 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jack i just bought 2 kayaks from Intex. Do you have a recommendation for a very good manual pumps ? Thanks Gilles
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
intex actually makes decent inexpensive pumps
@lorantbercsik5809
@lorantbercsik5809 2 жыл бұрын
Nice speed test. But one more aspect: I have had some inflatable kayaks over the years. Sevylor, Itiwit, Gumotex and Advanced Elements. (I have a Sup too) There is no big difference in max speed in still air. But the Advanced Elements AE-1012 is much less wind sensitive than the others. The rest is all blown away by the wind.
@jfg7331
@jfg7331 Жыл бұрын
Did you tried the itiwit x500...?
@lorantbercsik5809
@lorantbercsik5809 Жыл бұрын
No, I didn't.
@jfg7331
@jfg7331 Жыл бұрын
@@lorantbercsik5809 well, that’s the fastest inflatable kayak out there . The closest to a rigid one
@lorantbercsik5809
@lorantbercsik5809 Жыл бұрын
@@jfg7331 If I have the opportunity, I will try the Itiwit x500. I think it's fast, but I'm not sure it's the fastest. There are also fast ships on the market: Seaeagle Razorlite, Advanced Elements Airfusion Evo ...
@benp8
@benp8 2 жыл бұрын
What is the brand and model of that generic version of the Razorlite? Or where can I find one?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
Funnily enough it has no brand nor model.
@benp8
@benp8 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures Thank you for your reply. Do you know where they sell them, or maybe what search terms I could use to find one online? Or maybe a link?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
No, sorry, I can't
@allabouttires1941
@allabouttires1941 5 ай бұрын
GREAT VIDEO. (I TYPE IN CAPS) THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME . WHAT IS (GENERIC FULLY DROPSTITCH KAYAK)MADE BY????? THANK YOU DAVE AND NANCY (NUBBES)
@johncheung4005
@johncheung4005 2 жыл бұрын
thank you , good job. good comparison. i want to buy oru, consider weight, the speed. after see this video, oru speed is good.
@muflo71
@muflo71 Жыл бұрын
very interesting video
@dannyoneill1892
@dannyoneill1892 2 жыл бұрын
Do you like the Paddle North kayaks, Jack? I may have missed it but haven’t seen where you’ve reviewed them. Thank you.
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
Never seen them in real life. In pictures look identical to Advanced Elements Airvolution. I suspect my tiny review of that kayak might be relevant.
@dannyoneill1892
@dannyoneill1892 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures Thank you very much.
@---sf5cf
@---sf5cf 4 ай бұрын
Which of these two kayaks will combine high stability and speed, safety and comfort of paddling: Aqua Tec - Ottawa pro Double or Advanced Elements - AirVolution 2. ???
@craigk7615
@craigk7615 11 ай бұрын
Great video. would have like to seen a 10 foot pelican kayak $300-$400 dollar sold at major sporting stores and Walmart. And a paddleboard with a kayak seat and kayak paddle
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 10 ай бұрын
Yes, I wish I had more respurces to throw more vessels into the mix...
@raymondmartens7803
@raymondmartens7803 2 жыл бұрын
Is the generic drop stick the name of the company or generic means a random company? Im interested in this kayak can you give more specific brand name to it so i can look it up possible for purchase?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
it literally has no brand nor name.
@gloppy101
@gloppy101 2 жыл бұрын
Sea Eagle 420X rated at 855 vs Saturn Ocean Pro at 900lbs. Wish you had paddled the Saturn Ocean Pro and the Advanced Elements EVO (speed demon). The Oru Bay handles wind and waves much better than the SE 393RL (owned both). Also agree about a sea kayak and my P&&H Capella is very fast on the water compared to any inflatable or folder. Lastly, I thought your video was fair, unbiased and interesting.
@M_J_nan
@M_J_nan Жыл бұрын
If you go to New Zealand, make sure to try their Barracuda beachcomber. It was amazing 20 years ago and should be even better today. I cried when we sold ours before moving back to Sweden...
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tip. I am intending to be in a couple of months.
@mariaantoniw1748
@mariaantoniw1748 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Was that a chelan 155 or a 140 that you tested in the video? We are choosing between the SE fastrack 465 and the aquaglide chelan 155 for recreational paddling mostly on lakes and slow moving rivers. We are 2 adults 6 ft and 5ft5in, 210 and 220 pounds. Any thoughts?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
i think it's the smaller one. It's from a few years ago, so might be even a bit different. For your weight you might want bigger chambers and longer kayak. chelan would probably be better, I believe it has higher capacity.
@mariaantoniw1748
@mariaantoniw1748 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures Thank you. BTW: We think the latest model still has the same skeg attachment. 😞
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
does it require a screwdriver?
@mariaantoniw1748
@mariaantoniw1748 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures no, it's a thumb screw.
@quack100
@quack100 2 жыл бұрын
@@mariaantoniw1748 We have the Chelan 155 for two adults & would recommend it - although our only other comparisons are hardshells and a (coincidentally?) under-inflated AE. The 155 length vs 140 gives you a little extra wiggle room for storage space and for keeping your paddles away from each other. That skeg is great but omg I swear one day I'm going to drop the little metal mounting piece on a dock and lose it into the water - I'm surprised this was their best option for mounting.
@Wolf8313
@Wolf8313 Жыл бұрын
This is the best-ever video about inflatable kayaks. It looked like you were calculating speed by measuring time over distance, so your calculation included acceleration and the turn-around at the opposite shore? Would a measurement of "cruising speed" be better and show more differentiation among the different kayaks?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
Thnak you! I measured time just one direction, so it accounts for acceleration only. Not turning nor decelleration. I think it's representstive enough for our purposes. You do accelerate in real life conditions, so feels fair enough.
@ademite
@ademite 2 жыл бұрын
kayak #10 is one that would attract fishermen since Hobies are like $5,000+ and that thing is under $900. Just steering is weird since you don't really wanna paddle on a peddle kayak since you would probably be holding your fishing rod. Since i don't see any rod holders on that thing that kayak is perfect platform like you stated for people who are DIY or handy with making things like rod holders etc.
@pamdickey7219
@pamdickey7219 2 жыл бұрын
Hello. Do you have information on the generic drop stitch? How to purchase? Thank you for all your videos
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
I am investigating it myself. don't have complete data yet. Will post a video once I know
@aarrodri
@aarrodri Жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures same here.. can't find any that looks like it. Where do you get it or was it borrowed?
@DueInCammino
@DueInCammino 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting video, too bad you couldn't find something from Innova/Gumotex such as Swing or Seawave.
@barrybogart5436
@barrybogart5436 2 жыл бұрын
And some of their new ones look good too....
@davebourne612
@davebourne612 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jack - Do you have a recommendation for replacement seat for the Intex Challenger K2?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
Yeah, just a generic kayak seat you can buy on ebay or something like that
@alanwelson7705
@alanwelson7705 Жыл бұрын
Jack, I realized there are a couple of full drop stitch kayaks in the market now. Would you consider doing a comparison review on them? Thanks!
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
Really?! What are they?
@alanwelson7705
@alanwelson7705 Жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures Jack, I saw the ad for Bluewave today and did a search online, to my surprise, RazorLite is not the only one in the market. I thought they claimed they were patented.
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
Bluewave appears to be a UK product. Not found in the States. The only two fully dropstitch kayaks in the US are RL and Airvolution. If you find more please let me know.
@emmber19
@emmber19 Жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures aquamarine tomahawk, various offerings from KXone, bluewave
@jokjok4193
@jokjok4193 2 жыл бұрын
Best vídeo!!!
@Imightberiding
@Imightberiding Жыл бұрын
Hi there. I was hoping you could tell me the name/company of the RazorLite knock-off & where to search for it & perhaps purchase. I have been considering the Sea Eagle rl but the cost is somewhat prohibitive for me. This way I might be able to afford a Sea Eagle FastTrac or Explorer & the knock-off version of the Sea Eagle RazorLite. Thanks very much.
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
I am working on releasing a video talking about it.
@anneandjohnfirlings3291
@anneandjohnfirlings3291 Жыл бұрын
Jack, Just bought my wife a k1 and think with her smaller stature 5'4" it will work great. My question for you, I am 6'1", 200lbs, would the K2 work well for me as a single paddler ?.....I think I need the larger boat, but am questioning having all the weight in the back of the kayak....Thanks, John
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
You and I are same height. You'd be ok, but it will sag. Challenger K1 might work ok-ish for you too, in fact a bit better than K2
@anneandjohnfirlings3291
@anneandjohnfirlings3291 Жыл бұрын
Copy that...my other options are the other intex biggies, explorer or excursion...any thoughts on either of those? Ps..I also like the sevylor k5 quikpak...thanks again...awesome videos...John
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
Excursion Pro would certinly be most appropriate of the Intex. Don't know much about Sevylor.
@olderthandadirt
@olderthandadirt Жыл бұрын
It would have been nice to see the paddle boards timed when using the kayak paddle.
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
That sure is a good thought
@joseefortin8949
@joseefortin8949 2 жыл бұрын
Between the aquaglide chelan 140 and the star paragon tandem which one will you choose ?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
both are great. Star is a "wet butt" kind of kayak though :-)
@appslg3phone
@appslg3phone 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. When you tested the longer Razorlite you had two people on board. It would most likely perform better if you only had a single person like you did with the short model.
@MukendiMedia
@MukendiMedia 2 жыл бұрын
Hi 😊 Great videos! I have planed to buy a inflateable kayak, and I thought I knew what to get, until I saw your videos 😊👍 Now I would like your oppinion… Data: Use; 1 adult/2 adults/1 adult + 1 child/(2 adults + 1 child) Adults; 203cm tall and 120kg + 170cm and 65kg Ideas: *Advanced Elements Conv. Elite 2-3p *Sea Eagle Razorlite 2p *Itiwit X500 2p Which would you recomend and am I missing some? I have done normal sea kayaks before, and we are looking for something to use together, easy to bring, store and pack, so the drying part is also important for me! Best regards Michael (Denmark)
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
since you are in Europe, Itwit sounds like the way to go, but of course I have never seen it in real life. i am just assuming it's about the same as Razorlite, but cheaper there.
@jodelfernandez
@jodelfernandez 2 жыл бұрын
Can you also make a video on kayak paddle buying guide? :)
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
I did. it was a part of one of my other videos
@Oookkaa
@Oookkaa 2 жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the generic drop stitch kayak? Alibaba?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
something like that
@IngoGerth
@IngoGerth 2 жыл бұрын
Decathlon has an interesting lineup of inflatables in Europe. Check out especially the itiwit x500, let me know if you want to check it out in Germany!
@IngoGerth
@IngoGerth 2 жыл бұрын
PS: would be awesome if you posted the ranking in the video description.
@JoachimGeeraert
@JoachimGeeraert 2 жыл бұрын
There's both a ~€650 10psi 1person model and a ~€1200 15psi (so use the right pump..) 2person version. On sight, they appear to have a longer hull than the Sea Eagles. No skegs and they fit a splash cover.
@susannajohnson6693
@susannajohnson6693 2 жыл бұрын
I and several other family members bought Itiwit 2-person kayaks this summer and they've been great! We paid about $120 each for ours. It has three skegs and you seem to be able to buy bigger ones on Decathlon's website if you want them. They aren't terribly fast, and can be pushed around by the wind It is a "category 2" vessel, but we've had no trouble patting them dry, bagging them up, then drying them fully later.
@anhiro5133
@anhiro5133 2 жыл бұрын
@@JoachimGeeraert every review of itiwit 500 I’ve read says “ tippy”.
@jm-bv1wh
@jm-bv1wh 2 жыл бұрын
@@anhiro5133 I've read reviews that say otherwise.
@edgars00789
@edgars00789 Жыл бұрын
What's the best inflatable kayak for saltwater
@danglover9426
@danglover9426 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jack. Can you tell me where you found the Chinese fully drop stitch kayak?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
in China.
@danglover9426
@danglover9426 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures very helpful 👍. I'm assuming you found the American kayaks in America too?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
Generally. I am preparing a video where I want to talk about that whole dynamics in greater detail
@Obliticus
@Obliticus Жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this and uploading to YT! This really helps with putting things into perspective. But I am surprised.... $800 for a SUP?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
SUP prices range hugely. You can find them under 200, but they are rubbish. Good ones are more expensive.
@randscott4676
@randscott4676 6 ай бұрын
Where do you get the Generic Fully Dropstitich Kayak no brand???
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 5 ай бұрын
On Chinese marketplaces
@MathieuMorasse
@MathieuMorasse Жыл бұрын
I have a 3 year old daughter. I'm 43 years old and I've been canoe-camping and wild camping since I was one year old. Me and my girlfriend are looking for a solution to leave together with the limitation of our transport. I can only carry one kayak on the roof of my car. I was thinking of buying a double kayak and an inflatable kayak. Do you have any suggestions to help me find the best angle for what I'm looking for.
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
Sounds like too many variables to advise. And you seem to have a good amount of experience yourself, trust it
@VictorHayne
@VictorHayne 2 жыл бұрын
How did you go about ordering the generic drop stitch kayak as an individual? Did you have to order multiple or can you order in units of 1?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
That's an excellent question. I am still researching it. will talk about it in my further videos.
@VictorHayne
@VictorHayne 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures thank you. Can’t wait and much appreciated
@jteichma
@jteichma 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures thanks I hope to see you video on this drop stitch knock off. The price is the only thing that holds me back from the sea eagle
@malinjansson1070
@malinjansson1070 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Jack Baikoff. May I ask why you dislike advanced elements? You are pretty clear in your statement "as much as I don't like.." Bad kayaks? Bad materials? Construction? Experience?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
Watch my other videos, I talked about it. They also got into a comment exchange with me at my other video that left me and many others not want to deal with them.
@gloppy101
@gloppy101 2 жыл бұрын
As a long time owner of AE kayaks (17 years now) their kayaks are made with quality materials with excellent engineering. Jack doesn't like fabric over bladders saying they take a long time to dry. Tahe is fabric over bladder design too as are many whitewater boats from Aire and NRS. Fact the yellow Aire Sawtooth is treated vinyl fabric over bladder design too (I have it). His bias against Advanced Elements shows him to be not credible since they are known for their high quality kayaks and excellent customer service. I also have the AE Expedition Elite and the Island Voyage 2, both high quality. Advantage of fabric over the tubes is that if a tube is damaged, it's replaceable and not so with Aquaglide or Sea Eagle where the whole kayak is worthless.
@gloppy101
@gloppy101 2 жыл бұрын
I call BS on Jack say that AE left him and many others not wanting to deal with them. Nonsense. They rank at the top (along with Aire and NRS for solid customer service.
@GEORGE111130
@GEORGE111130 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, Great video it was very helpful . Pls can you take a look on this kayak? i would love your opinion(Itiwit x500, inflatable touring sit-in kayak,) I believe that its the same in the us as in Europe .Thank you in advance!!!
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
what country are you in? i don't believe we can get it in the States.
@GEORGE111130
@GEORGE111130 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures i am from Greece. You have the brand, Decathlon has it. But I believe that you don't have that specific model. Thanks for the answer. Keep up the good work we are loving it!
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
even though Decathlon entered the US market they aren't a big player here. I am still to see a single one of their kayaks in person. that kayak looks quite greatbin pictures, btw
@GEORGE111130
@GEORGE111130 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures i will be back with a mini review if I ever buy it. Thank you for your quick response.
@gloppy101
@gloppy101 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures they closed their only two stores in SF/Bay Area this past January. One can order a Decathlon kayak from Target or WM, but there is no warranty exchange. Not good
@ALoonwolf
@ALoonwolf 2 жыл бұрын
This is nice to compare. In my opinion the inflatable row boat is a much better choice of boat. It's superior in every way except it has a lot of drag slowing it down. The speed of the row boat is around 2 miles per hour, so around half as fast as your average kayak. But still all the other benefits for me still outweigh it. For example after travelling for that hour, how much water is in the boat? If it's more than NONE AT ALL then no thanks!
@atlantic_nomads
@atlantic_nomads Жыл бұрын
Perfect 👌
@stevec6397
@stevec6397 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever reviewed Itiwit kayaks? I've seen the Itiwit decathalon for sale on a few sites
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
people have been asking about it more than any other kayak. I still haven't seen it in real life.
@stevec6397
@stevec6397 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures They appear to be built solid, but I was hoping to get your opinion before buying one. Thanks for the reviews, keep them coming!
@6yjjk
@6yjjk 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures I've got an Itiwit X500, haven't got it wet yet though. (Just bought it, Finnish winter, paddling is... difficult.) Feels pretty damn solid, but I'm upgrading from a Challenger K2, so pretty much anything would. If you happen to come this way and want to try it, let me know.
@calabrais
@calabrais 17 күн бұрын
0:30 **laughs in overdue speeding tickets**
@DionteBOOMstudio
@DionteBOOMstudio 2 жыл бұрын
More videos plz!
@kristofferrydquist8384
@kristofferrydquist8384 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting comparison! Love to see the inclusion of foldables and SUP:s. I have some comments: The hull speed is something that you might not reach while paddling leisurely like in the test, therefore the water friction will be the main issue which explains that the 2 person version typically not faster than the 1-person. The slight tracking advantage is reduced by drag. My personal experience with various IK:s is that the top speed is limited a lot by the flex. Using proper leg technique just bends the whole thing, but maybe the drop-stitch versions will solve it.
@Phrancis5
@Phrancis5 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the main reason why the tandem Razorlite is slower is because of more mass and "wetted surface drag". Tandems can be faster when both people are paddling in unison, which can be difficult for many and is why they are often called "divorce boats" LOL..
@averageguy1261
@averageguy1261 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy the Generic No Name Dropstitch one?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
in China
@midniteprayer
@midniteprayer 2 жыл бұрын
The generic drop stitch. Where can you get that?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
I am investigating it myself so far. don't have complete data yet. Will post a video once I know
@lowhanlindsey
@lowhanlindsey 2 жыл бұрын
Where can I buy the generic??
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
currently looks like nowere.
@TrongNguyen-ky6wy
@TrongNguyen-ky6wy Жыл бұрын
How is the Chinese (non brand) kayak holding up to date? I’m thinking about getting one, I started out with sea eagle 370 and it’s not giving me the performance I crave. I’ve been quoted the tandem generic razorlite 473 for $535 shipped. Any info helps. Thanks
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
It's holding up just fine, so far I am not seeing major differences between it and SE.
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
Oh, and if you can get it for that price - go for it, it won't get much better.
@TrongNguyen-ky6wy
@TrongNguyen-ky6wy Жыл бұрын
The solo version is $415 shipped, but I’m on the fence about it bc the wife/kids may want to join me one day on it, even though we would still have the SE370. The tandem is probably better for stability if I happen to carry a passenger. BTW I’ve found the same manufacturer for sea eagle and their prices are slightly higher about $100-150 depends on size. The initial seller claims they use 1200D pvc while the second uses 1000D. But I don’t know if I can judge the quality between the two just by the denier. But thanks for the quick response. I may fork out a little more just to go with something more familiar.
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
Those are super low prices anyway. even if you buy both you'll end up paying less than if you bought one SE one
@aarrodri
@aarrodri Жыл бұрын
@@TrongNguyen-ky6wy Where to get the generic razorlite..cant find any sources .. could you point me in the right direction?
@justinzak5025
@justinzak5025 Жыл бұрын
Hi Jack, curious to know how to submit kayaks for review. Thanks -- Justin
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
Hi, Justin, which kayak do you want me to review?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures Жыл бұрын
Contact me through Meetup - our groups address is in every video.
@shootermcgarrett
@shootermcgarrett 2 жыл бұрын
what about using a kayak paddle on a paddle board? would that be faster or slower
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
it'd be too short and uncomfortable. unless you sit down. in which case you'd want a back support. you'd wish you had a kayak :-)
@shootermcgarrett
@shootermcgarrett 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I have a paddle race coming up. and I have the intex k1 kayak and a body glove sup. i don't know which one will be faster
@gloppy101
@gloppy101 2 жыл бұрын
@@shootermcgarrett I can tell you the Body Glove Performer 11' (have 2) with a stadium seat (got mine at WalMart for $20.) is faster than all my kayaks (except for my sea kayak) and it's much easier to paddle for distance. I use a twin blade kayak paddle. The seat makes the paddleboard very comfortable. Put the front of the seat about 2-3" in back of the handle and use the side D-rings to secure with a small strap. I run a split pool noodle (use zipties) on each side of the seat frame to help protect the seat and it also holds the seat in place. Give it a try and you will be impressed.
@joelelias2556
@joelelias2556 Жыл бұрын
I don’t see the relevance of the paddleboard test. Would have been interesting if he put a seat on it and used a double bladed paddle as they are typically “convertible”.
@Oregoonie
@Oregoonie Жыл бұрын
stumbled on this video looking for a kayak and we happen to live in same place haha
@MrDcoffey
@MrDcoffey 11 ай бұрын
Where does one find a generic drop-stitch kayak?
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 10 ай бұрын
On chinese sites
@tigershuffle1
@tigershuffle1 2 жыл бұрын
Would be nice to see you test a 2021 Tucktec. Seems a bit unfair testing a 2nd hand one without the skeg/rudder attached
@inneradventures
@inneradventures 2 жыл бұрын
Tuckteck did have a rudder. Not sure why you would assume otherwise. Are you saying they redesigned it recently?
@tigershuffle1
@tigershuffle1 2 жыл бұрын
Can't see a rudder in the vid. Here's a link kzfaq.info/get/bejne/qa6Jorupndyrl58.html. Those Chines Dropstitch K1s available in Europe now for £400 ($500) K2 nearer £700 ($850). Nice video 👍
@youtubechangedmynamelikeacunt
@youtubechangedmynamelikeacunt 2 жыл бұрын
@@inneradventures I have their late 2021 version, only differences I believe are the different seat, and there is a bar behind the seat now for stability, for £290 im V happy with it
@youtubechangedmynamelikeacunt
@youtubechangedmynamelikeacunt 2 жыл бұрын
+the folding latches/locks are different and there is no large skeg at the back, 2021 version at least in my experience looks to handle very differently to that one. plus having the seats upper strap latched to the sides bends the bottom and is reducing stability, seat is supposed to be attached to the floor of the kayak in front of the seat
@Mike-ku7gv
@Mike-ku7gv 2 жыл бұрын
I have both a 2021 and the older model shown in the video. The newer model is definitely faster, but probably doesn't track quite as well.
@rg3965
@rg3965 11 ай бұрын
I'm still trying to understand how you can rate kayaks when you admit that you don't plan to have a proper pump.
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