Comparison of $100 Markerless MoCap and $25k Optical Mocap

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Жыл бұрын

Viewer's Left: Dollars Markerless MoCap, capturing from the video and streaming to Unity in real-time
Viewer's Right: OptiTrack Prime13 * 12, Manus Prime II Gloves
Original video,
www.bilibili.com/video/BV1W94...
www.dollarsmocap.com/
#mediapipe #unity #unity3d #motioncapture #mocap #miku #mikumikudance #mmd

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@rtkamb389 Жыл бұрын

I feel sorry for the village girl. She's been selling flowers for months to save up and get the $100 MoCap, and Miku shows up does a dance party on her corpse.

@bloohowz Жыл бұрын

yeah, I can imagine that scenario when Miku suddenly shows up with 25k mocap device and dances like crazy in front of 0.1k girl

@LatenightDev Жыл бұрын

The village girl more cute tho

@SilverLightRain Жыл бұрын

lol

@TheCumulusClimber Жыл бұрын

Miku: Wo(r)ld is MINE! MINE MINE MINE!

@2ndless57 Жыл бұрын

the power of capitaism

@riririririkakaka Жыл бұрын

This dancer is named “B-Girl,” or “Akira.” Give her credit because of her proffesional dances! She worked with this company, because of her unique energetic dancing style.

@taniaarguelles1558 Жыл бұрын

She’s so amazing!

@VanDO-Vietnam Жыл бұрын

Man, I thought that was a guy whole the time lol

@jonh101 Жыл бұрын

@@VanDO-Vietnam observe

@Javierm0n0 Жыл бұрын

@@VanDO-Vietnam find an optometrist

@monbub Жыл бұрын

@@VanDO-Vietnam attempt eye test

@jodifrye8877 Жыл бұрын

I'm actually obsessed with how good of a dancer she is. All of the minor details that go into her performance are spectacular

@rmsv Жыл бұрын

She? Had no idea.

@nirestrunk4923 Жыл бұрын

@@rmsv What made you think she was a guy? o.o

@snoogans20 Жыл бұрын

Right. Forgot what this video was about because of the impressive dancing.

@Grimnoire Жыл бұрын

She's fucking sick...

@xxjay7 Жыл бұрын

I'm amazed how specified her dancing looks for mo-cap Like I noticed how she keeps her head very still until she actually needs to turn it, and I feel like that really works for this style of animation

@RedBirdRabbit Жыл бұрын

This is a really good demonstration of why mocap in film isn't just a matter of recording an actor's motions! Miku mimics the dancer's motions perfectly here, but differences in proportions make a HUGE difference in the energy of the performance. The shoulders especially make this super clear- the dancer uses a lot of big, dramatic shoulder motions, but Miku's shoulders are so thin and comparatively close-together that the energy of her motion isn't anywhere near as dramatic. In a production setting, an artist would use the mocap data as a basis for further animation, working to convey the spirit of the actor's performance more closely. There are a lot of Hollywood types that try to sell the idea that mocap performances in movies are 1:1 copied from data created through the actor's performance, but it's important to remember to respect the work animators put in to give that data convincing life :D

@NeoNovastar Жыл бұрын

TELL EM!!

@samaraisnt Жыл бұрын

yeah bc miku isn't built like a dancer, she's built like an underweight child/waifu lol.

@rakoonisepik1871 Жыл бұрын

@@samaraisntI DID NOT JUST HEAR YOU SAY THAT RIGHT NOW 💀💀💀

@SamWinters Жыл бұрын

Also noticing conversely just how much more motion there is in Miku's legs due to their relative length

@papichulo9757 Жыл бұрын

yea because small shoulders are more feminine and make the character look younger

@Mult1Core Жыл бұрын

the middle one looks really realistic

@Orewaz Жыл бұрын

Too real

@flameshana9 Жыл бұрын

The outfit needs work but the dancing is super smooth. Almost as good as the one on the right.

@six_buck_dlc Жыл бұрын

the lighting and materials are really well done though i like it

@scotcheeP Жыл бұрын

The design is very human

@tsukino.yuu.2.0 Жыл бұрын

Yes it’s very realistic though the outfit needs work

@RecordToDeathToBoredom Жыл бұрын

This is my first time seeing the 25k tech in action and I am so surprised by how much movement and life it gives to the model. Even the fingers?? That is crazy. Also great dancer. She's got great personality in her professional dancing.

@Dread_2137 Жыл бұрын

well, one thing is an advanced algorithm that analyzes the location of the receivers 1000 times/s, including their distance from the camera, also allows you to make movements that cannot be seen (hand behind the head), and the other is kinect from xbox 360

@piulada Жыл бұрын

That's cool, but what about the toes?

@ntrspecialist1304 Жыл бұрын

@@piulada 😳 hear me out-

@davidwusoftdev Жыл бұрын

@@Dread_2137 That's not a kinect. According to their product description (this channel is from the creators of the mocap software used on the left side) they use a simple webcam or video file as input (no depth tracking like the kinect) and apparently use AI to visually identify and interpret the person motions and export the data in real time to your preferred engine (Unity, Unreal), which is pretty cool. They even have a limited time free trial in their website.

@Dread_2137 Жыл бұрын

@@davidwusoftdev i know, it's joke

@lar_s 10 ай бұрын

1:04 thru 1:15 is actually insane like I can't stop watching it. Especially 1:13 that half-star thing she draws or whatever literally makes my brain lag it's too smooth. Also I keep trying to watch Miku but Akira just steals my attention away every time, she's just so electric and exciting to watch. We really need to find a way to harness dance as a renewable energy source bc I firmly believe one 4-minute dance from this lady could singlehandedly power a small suburb of Chicago for 5 years straight

@perfectication 8 ай бұрын

Lol I love this comment so much

@MissPoplarLeaf 8 ай бұрын

Yeah her rizz is off the charts!! Her movements are both fluid and sharp, and the choreography is so much fun

@DiMocap Ай бұрын

Same video mocap comparisons: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9x1m7OhyNTblGg.html

@HartSickle Жыл бұрын

While the $25k one is clearly superior, I'm actually impressed at how well the $100 one can keep up haha.

@erialbar 8 ай бұрын

Technical tecnology just matter of time

@alexmehler6765 7 ай бұрын

its not impressive imho ..or shoould i say expressive lol?

@yoonniemin6438 6 ай бұрын

I'm just laughing so hard at how it's glitching when it's confused and can't keep up, like when she turned her back and the skirt went haywire or when she jumped and the leg went ballistic 🤣

@JackieBright 6 ай бұрын

The $100 one feels like how someone would do just watching the video and trying to mimic the dance - and that is what it's doing, which is crazy. Meanwhile the $25k one just *knows* every single movement the dancer moves and copies it 1:1

@flux.aeterna 6 ай бұрын

It’s giving 2002 DDR Max ❤︎

@ctrlzme.6448 Жыл бұрын

no joke, i was focused on the dancer's movements more than the mocap's comparison tbh, her kick literally left me speechless. i love her energy!

@hehashivemind6111 Жыл бұрын

Same lmao

@UCmDBecUtbSafffpMEN3iscA Жыл бұрын

Same here

@bubblegum03 Жыл бұрын

For real, the dancer is absolutely KILLING it. I'm surprised Miku can keep up at all.

@bittersweet4074 Жыл бұрын

her?

@sorakuzunoha108 Жыл бұрын

@@bittersweet4074 She is a female

@TheNightofWalpurgis666 Жыл бұрын

Most impressive about the $25k one is how it able to sense the feet movements accurately and kept her model grounded. The $100 struggles to keep track and it floats the model lol.

@vantai792 Жыл бұрын

japan SMALL eyes but 2D anime big EYES haizzzz life is LIES

@RangersGirlJackie99 Жыл бұрын

It still really struggles with rendering heels naturally though. Unless someone can rig up high heels with trackers, there's always going to be movements or postures that you either can't do in heels or have to do differently, that won't translate nicely into the render.

@IRMentat Жыл бұрын

Less “float” more that the latency/positioning doesn’t settle the feet into a spot quickly so it’s rarely static.

@felixjonson1 Жыл бұрын

Shadowing beneath the feet of the 3d model on d right would also help anchor to the ground. Just one of those little touches to make the model more... grounded in reality 😂. And most likely hours of manual work by nameless video editors as well

@machineofthe6thriver430 Жыл бұрын

Yes I noticed that too. I kept getting drawn toward the feet, as like you said that model felt accurately grounded.

@kymotsujason Жыл бұрын

I can't believe how much power is conveyed through the Mocap. The technology is really accurate and having such a skilled dancer makes it look even better.

@DiMocap Ай бұрын

More mocap comparisons: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9x1m7OhyNTblGg.html

@Winkmyster Жыл бұрын

Also the difference here that they don't tell you is how complex your model is, if you have a model with a very basic skeleton, you are going to get very rigid results like a cheap action figure, but if you get a model with a nice amount of extra "bones" or "joints" you are going to get a lot more realistic of movement.

@GuppyStarVT 8 ай бұрын

Ooo thank you for this info. Didnt even consider that

@xxselenaxx2142 8 ай бұрын

I figured the blue screen on bottom indicated that

@rainswings1190 8 ай бұрын

The weird part is it appears the model with the more doll looking set up is the left one, as evidenced by the clipping issue on some spots. Sometimes simpler and less flashy is better.

@PoptartParasol 6 ай бұрын

@@rainswings1190some spots? It clips in every single move and the fingers and hands hardly ever move properly and look stiff. It's not the better of the two at all

@LangkeeLongkee 2 ай бұрын

Even if the right model had all the right rigging, it literally cannot pick up the micromovements because there's not markers to translate them....

@Homiloko2 Жыл бұрын

You can tell she loves her job and it really shows in every movement. This woman deserves a standing ovation.

@Chfrchko-144 Жыл бұрын

She?

@ma.2089 Жыл бұрын

@@Chfrchko-144 I know we shouldn’t assume gender but she literally has boobs.

@gxdx697 Жыл бұрын

Dancing energetically = her loving her job? How do you just assume that lol

@iandavidvillaloboswong5180 Жыл бұрын

@@Chfrchko-144 I guess the dress is a tight and all but you can still see her body lol

@kundatrix Жыл бұрын

@@gxdx697 I don't know, probably because she's smiling? You know, like the basic indicator of happiness?

@SomeSortOfWay Жыл бұрын

I didn't see the "k" in "$25k" and was astonished at how well a cheaper product was performing 😂 nvm 'bout that

@HollowNaruto63 Жыл бұрын

Same

@warfu_ Жыл бұрын

OMG SAME

@naiknaik8812 Жыл бұрын

that would actually be insane

@ChinchillaBONK Жыл бұрын

Objectively speaking, the more expensive system is WAY better. BUT it's 250 times more expensive.

@jokesonu3412 Жыл бұрын

🤣

@SuperSuber Жыл бұрын

Dude, this lady can dance. Also, that kick for the left avatar at 3:12 broke the laws of physics.

@necrago Жыл бұрын

Maybe it's just faster than the speed of light.

@KasumiRINA Жыл бұрын

Look at left one at 2:52 too... Still, if you clean up animations manually the $100 rig is fine for cutscene and dialogue animations. Maybe even gameplay loop, just don't dance with it.

@sabalastroboy684 Жыл бұрын

@kendlemintjed7571 9 ай бұрын

And what little privacy miku had left in that outfit

@GrassPokeKing 8 ай бұрын

She kicked herself in the face

@clarion3204 Жыл бұрын

Honestly, I had stopped paying attention to either of the Mocaps by 30 seconds in because I was so captivated by the dancer in the middle. Her cute fuckin satisfied smile when she nails a combo!!!!! The immaculately fluid body rolls!! She is having SO much fun and I am living for it. Nothing virtually captured and generated will hold a candle to a real human dancing for me until they can capture the vibe, the attitude, the sass, the essence, the fucking JOY radiating from a human being when they dance. Is it even possible? I don’t know, maybe. Her dancing, though. Ugh, swoon!

@DiMocap Ай бұрын

Same video mocap comparisons: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9x1m7OhyNTblGg.html

@undeniablySomeGuy Жыл бұрын

I know this is a tech demonstration, but of my god her dancing looks so free and effortless, man I envy dancers

@kewoshk Жыл бұрын

I remember getting kicked out of a folk dance team back in my primary school days 😂 dancers do a great job

@Clumrat Жыл бұрын

Go start dancing, you got this. One step at a time, literally

@planetxtraa Жыл бұрын

ive always loved dancing and have wanted to do it professionally since i was a kid, but recently ive dealt with chronic pain and i can't do much anymore. i feel you man

@aryelc7357 Жыл бұрын

Right?? It looks so freeing and peaceful, like you totally get absorbed into it like in the flow state.

@marian6641 Жыл бұрын

@@planetxtraa samee:( It makes me so sad

@BrutalJambon Жыл бұрын

Seeing the dancer having so much fun and a smile on their face the whole time is honestly the best part. The costly setup sure is impressing in terms of precision !

@eagletgriff Жыл бұрын

Look at that big smile!

@hahahano Жыл бұрын

That smile is conagious

@sabalastroboy684 Жыл бұрын

@888 17 so?

@sivanhedoesstuff Жыл бұрын

@888 17 homie what

@bonkers1917 8 ай бұрын

her face is also being captured by mocap, so it could also be part of her job to make miku by default look happy and energetic during the dance. though I’m sure she’s having fun, it can also be even more work to consciously keep a big smile and animated expressions while dancing, so chances are they asked her to be expressive.

@GravitasZero Жыл бұрын

That dancer did a complete workout in just 4 minutes

@rat_piss0305 Жыл бұрын

0:32 i absolutely adore this part so much because of the leg physics and how it looks like a pushing force of the kicks, making it look so realistic. I have replayed it so many times already.

@DiMocap Ай бұрын

More mocap comparisons: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b9x1m7OhyNTblGg.html

@copiagueeagle Жыл бұрын

The 25k mocap was remarkable, it didn't miss a step the entire time. The $100 one was fantastic for the price, it really kept up well! But most importantly, lady in the middle... you got MOVES girl, gawddamn! Lmao.

@riririririkakaka Жыл бұрын

She is a professional dancer.

@kaelthunderhoof5619 Жыл бұрын

Hahaha the 100 one was twitchy.

@vantai792 Жыл бұрын

japan SMALL eyes but 2D anime big EYES haizzzz life is LIES

@claire4212 Жыл бұрын

@@vantai792 the hell are you saying?

@M1ssKiera Жыл бұрын

@@vantai792 Stop spamming this

@TheLiamis Жыл бұрын

The $ 100 is great for the price and perfect for indie/vtubers. The $25k though is what you need for concerts etc. All its movements are perfect with almost zero clipping, has shadows and its feet are on the ground.

@LecherousLizard Жыл бұрын

The feet not being on the ground is largely on the mesh used not having ankle joints. And the shadows on the right model aren't actual shadows, just a static "+" texture attached to each foot.

@LecherousLizard Жыл бұрын

@@droopy_eyes Yup, it's not like the model on the right itself is even expensive, it's the one on the left being VERY basic. Likely it wasn't meant to be used for full body capture in the first place and the legs were added only in case it got out of frame.

@Kyrmana Жыл бұрын

@@LecherousLizard Looks like a Vroid Studio model. Their cloth physics are terrible, but it's free.

@muhamadrizkyananda 9 ай бұрын

@@Kyrmana it was Vroid beta pre-made model after all

@catsballs9657 8 ай бұрын

The vtuber kpop group should be using the 25k one but idt they have the budget for that yet💀

@Secret_Takodachi 8 ай бұрын

What I took away from this video is: I REALLY WISH I COULD WATCH THE MO-CAP ARTISTS PERFORMING MORE! ❤ Not even the 25k set-up could capture that dancer's pure happiness to be doing what she's doing! ❤❤❤

@MrEddie4679 Жыл бұрын

Just mad they put the screen in the middle, wanna see that sweet footwork of the real person.

@adjwindu70 Жыл бұрын

The 25k on the right is definitely superior. However, what you get for the 100 version makes it ideal for the regular consumer.

@delta-a17 Жыл бұрын

Honestly seen much better tracking using HTC Vive Pucks and a VR set, I'd say that's about the sweet spot for the tier above ultra budget.

@absolstoryoffiction6615 Жыл бұрын

@@delta-a17 Can it do full body???

@delta-a17 Жыл бұрын

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 With the Vive satellites and tracking pucks, yeah. You wear trackers on your feet and waist as a minimum for full body.

@SpikeyMuscle Жыл бұрын

@@delta-a17 that is potentially exciting!!! How does it handle individual finger movements and foot angles?

@delta-a17 Жыл бұрын

@@SpikeyMuscle I'm sure you can over engineer your setup to handle foot angles in VR chat or mocap software using rig edits and more trackers but it's mostly handled using IK which is fine 99% of the time. Finger tracking is spot on with something like index controllers though, people can talk in sign language using VRC.

@enna3151 Жыл бұрын

i cant be the only one simply MESMERIZED with the dancing. such skill.

@mynordragon1509 Жыл бұрын

I have been back at least 25 times

@flyseokjin 9 ай бұрын

I’ve loved vocaloid and hatsune miku for such a long time but it never occurred to me that this is how they make the models move. I always thought it was manual on MMD maker or something. This is so cool and I’ve gained a lot more respect for all the work that truly goes into vocaloid. You are an amazing dancer 🥺

@sincerely_sillikers 9 ай бұрын

there are people who hand-animate it too! but in project diva, project sekai, and concerts, they use mocap

@zUltraXO 6 ай бұрын

It's no doubt insanely time consuming to animate it by hand, might as well have it computer aided and have someone absolutely vibe out to the song, it's a win-win

@grapicusdrinktus 8 ай бұрын

It's actually pretty impressive how well the $100 MoCap keeps up. Maybe not "production quality" for a concert or something but perfectly fine for motions that don't require more detailed precision.

@diddy_dante Жыл бұрын

For those wondering, the song is ヒアソビ by かめりあ (Play With Fire / Hiasobi by Camellia).

@planetxtraa Жыл бұрын

^^^

@razoub77 Жыл бұрын

thank you. i was wondering why nobody asked the title of the song and wanted to ask it my self

@shonen84 Жыл бұрын

Not all heroes wear capes ❤

@komai1879 Жыл бұрын

THANK YOU

@Elven_Yas Жыл бұрын

Tysm, I was about to write and ask in the comments but checked just in case someone put it

@Cametek.CamelliaOfficial Жыл бұрын

Oh wow! That's awesome to see the difference in comparison, in action. As a VR technology lover that's really exciting. Also thank you for sharing my song, hiasobi / play with fire through the amazing footage

@randomidiotontheinternet2772 Жыл бұрын

Hi Camellia

@pixelchu Жыл бұрын

banger for sure

@iberis361 Жыл бұрын

Omg the legend themselves! Camellia!

@FAQ_SiLv Жыл бұрын

It's the man himself! I've never heard 'play with fire' for a while now and I tell you what, it's still fire. Your songs are always a banger, keep it up 🔥

@vantai792 Жыл бұрын

japan SMALL eyes but 2D anime big EYES haizzzz life is LIES

@haggis53 Жыл бұрын

Okay, can we just appreciate how much Akira (the dancer) is obviously love love loving life while she dances? I WISH I could experience that kind of joy while dancing. :D

@zawarudo1041 2 ай бұрын

You don’t need to virtue signal… every comments pinpoint exactly the same thing and I still couldn’t find who asked what or whatnot I can appreciate. You are not unique dude as much as you feel you are

@kaarlomakkarakasa440 2 ай бұрын

@@zawarudo1041Is this virtue signaling in the room with us right now? Do you often find yourself being offended this easily? I'd recommend touching grass asap.

@freedomfries9719 Жыл бұрын

0:40 was so CLEAN!

@broimagine2794 Жыл бұрын

a cool little list for everything the $25k model does rlly well: - the model is always on the ground, and if the dancer moves they copy it - there’s rarely any clipping, only in the skirt mainly - the model also copies facial expressions - no one mentioned this but she even has a shadow under her - the fingers match too - the hair never clips and moves kinda realistically - it can copy subtle movements like the body roll she does - its a full model, no spots are left unfinished - it even looks like the model exaggerates some expressions, most obvious at the end - it’s also somehow always on time - doesn’t glitch out with hard or fast moves like the spins, kick, or fast hand movements around the head - she also has heels but her ankles still move

@OdyLoveMusic Жыл бұрын

I thought expressions are added in manually/ separately? There isn't any dots on the real dancer's face... if it really does track facial expressions...man that's amazing.

@broimagine2794 Жыл бұрын

@@OdyLoveMusicu can kinda see it at 0:58 when they both close there eyes and theres another part where they both wink edit: fount it: 1:59

@meloyellow007 Жыл бұрын

I also noticed that the $25k rig moved with depth. When the dancer moved closer/farther away, miku did too, but the other model stayed in place

@cyberpeanut4375 Жыл бұрын

it definitely doesn't copy the facial expressions, i'm assuming what you saw were just coincidences. if you look closely you can see that the model is lipsyncing to the song and there are a lot of instances when the faces don't match so i'm guessing the facial expressions are added in later

@broimagine2794 Жыл бұрын

@@cyberpeanut4375 theres still times where the facial expressions are obviously matched, dk if its added after tho. could try watching them both blink in slo mo

@connorcookbird Жыл бұрын

the miku avatar has shadows following the feet it makes it looks so much more real even though the shadows are not perfectly mimicking the shape of the avatar. pretty cool stuff

@LadyLier17 Жыл бұрын

And the pigtails also moved back and forth the shoulder that also gave it super realistic energy

@VirixPhilia Жыл бұрын

The X shape of the shadows are meant to mimic stage lights, there’s no shadow of the full body because her back and sides are also powerfully lighted, so the shadow casted is just of the lights hitting her legs from all angles. This technique was also used in old idolm@ster games.

@RosePhantoma Жыл бұрын

I love how the more expensive program gets the little details, too, it makes the animation feel more lively and polished

@phlogistanjones2722 Жыл бұрын

What I am MOST impressed with is HOW DOES ANYONE dance with that getup on? It looks almost like a wetsuit for scuba. And the slippers? She is a MOST impressive dancer and the fact she can be so peppy in such a goofy outfit makes it all the more impressive. I am guessing by the end no matter how good of shape she is in she is a bit toasty due to the garments. KUDOS! The left hand dancer is MAGNIFICENT for $100. Holy Hannah things have come a long way. The $25k gear makes the right Miku look like a pretty good approximation of a REAL dancer. The feet always matching ground level is very noticeable. I saw in comments the Miku also had shadows but honestly I did not notice it until I read that. I watched the anime characters for about a minute and then just focused on the real dancer. THAT is a problem as she just blows me away and the others are just distractions. OBVIOUSLY this is great for mocap/games/anime etc etc etc but the fact that I chose to watch a person in a goofy getup dance their heart out rather than "cutie swiss-miss anime girl" on left or "sexy-cutie anime girl" on right lets ***ME*** personally know that real people still out do tech wizardry .... Good luck Dollars Markerless MoCap you obviously have a winner on your hands. :) CHEERS!

@Gamertrus Жыл бұрын

Deminishing returns are certainly a thing in this comparison but I think the difference is large enough to make both options acceptable at least this time around

@MaxC_1 Жыл бұрын

Only issue is, 100$ vs 25K isn't a valid comparison point Yea i know the video is comparing an amateur user to a industry standard use but there's already tech within 1000$ that matches the 25K mocap in most sectors The movements aren't as fine nor are the details but in a normal use case? You can't tell them apart

@DatNguyen-qp2er Жыл бұрын

@@MaxC_1 i dont think dancing on stage in a concert or mocap for a 3D film count as normal use cases, nor 25k set up was built for standard use. Clearly it's costly and created to be use where it suits.

@absolstoryoffiction6615 Жыл бұрын

@@MaxC_1 For Vtubing... True. But for MMDs and dancing in a 3d stage for Vtubers... Go get the $25k one.

@MaxC_1 Жыл бұрын

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 As I already stated 1K$ hardware can already do the full body tracking at a near production level. It's harder to use than plug and play but I have hands on experience with Laser grid+body sensors being used in an under 1K Setup which couldn't be differentiated as an end result. Only problem is it's not as maneuverable as a skin hugging suit It is also a significantly better option than 25K for any user who isn't a millionaire or works with a company

@enkiimuto1041 Жыл бұрын

Honestly? I'm super shocked the 100 USD one is THAT GOOD. If you're an animator, you'll polish it anyway, might as well save 24.9k

@nyannyan443 Жыл бұрын

Came for the tech and the side by side comparison, stayed for the amazing dance moves. I was so mesmerized by her slick moves, I couldn't help but focus on the dance instead

@CHEFPKR Жыл бұрын

This comparison is wild. It also goes to show you don't need a huge budget to still do something absolutely rad.

@conicthehedgehog9166 8 ай бұрын

Yeah but you need an incredibly talented dancer like the girl in the video

@lonelyrooster Жыл бұрын

Honestly if you're dancing for miku you'd kinda need to be the kinda dancer who can't stop smiling for a second while performing. This is incredible. The facrix and everything on miku looks better.

@lonelyrooster Жыл бұрын

Fabric*

@TigeriPlaysGames Жыл бұрын

the way the cheaper mocap on the left doesn't move as much or as fluidly, it kinda looks like she's a beginner trying to learn the dance that miku and the woman are doing, it's kinda cute

@codak29 8 ай бұрын

this video was posted by the cheaper mocap company. they want you to see it is comparable to the software that costs 250x more. everyone is missing the point.

@TigeriPlaysGames 8 ай бұрын

@@codak29ok. why reply that to me specifically.

@MrSporkster Жыл бұрын

Honestly, $100 for that kind of movement is incredible value.

@kaelthunderhoof5619 Жыл бұрын

Until it twitched when she turned back hahaha

@Osprey1994 Жыл бұрын

Not really. The 100 dollar version looks choppy and floaty while the 25k version looks like it's in the room and is quite smooth besides an issue with the dress. The movement is so roughly translated in the 100 dollar one that I would say it's not even worth it, and someone should shop for something closer to the 1000 dollar region if they are serious and trying to capture full body movement. Of course, all the issues that are glaring to one person might not be so obvious to another.

@dhearyzikrimuhammad_0366 Жыл бұрын

@@Osprey1994 I mean yeah, the 25k one has shadows, I dunno how that works

@emi9643 Жыл бұрын

@@Osprey1994 while you are not incorrect in any way, i think the statement here is more about the fact that for $100 you still get a decent approximation of the movement. its obviously not good enough for something like this, but if you dont need this level of movement $100 is a really good deal. for example if you you just wanted to capture a simpler animation of being in a room that did not need quick, precise movements, the $100 mocap could probably get you acceptable results

@badonker Жыл бұрын

@@Osprey1994 really? Not worth it? Bro it's just 100$ you are comparing it to a technology that's 250 times more expensive, let me say it again *250 times more expensive* for just 100 bucks the movement is really decent.

@KaNoMikoProductions 7 ай бұрын

The right one might perform the best, but I relate the most to the left one.

@bakasenpaidesu 7 ай бұрын

😂😂😂

@technicolor965 Жыл бұрын

The dancer stole the show 100%

@dommyshan Жыл бұрын

The $100 version would probably work fine for regular non-dancing acting/performances. Maybe do a tier list of like, $100, $500, $1k, $5k, $10k tiers, and using the same model and compare the differences. See if it's worth it :D but yes this was fun to watch, and great energetic dance by the dancer :D

@Ehatntmtntahe Жыл бұрын

You didn't have to make it sound this tragic 🤣

@jasonlicht6763 Жыл бұрын

you couldn't do that though since you can only do one suit and the imaging one at the same time, she can't wear multiple suits at once. Then she would have to try and do the EXACT same performance for each suit, which is unrealistic, and any deviations would be difficult to say if it's the suit or her performance that causes any difference in model behavior/accuracy.

@nisbahmumtaz909 Жыл бұрын

If you looked in the description, this isn't even his video, he just ripped it from bilibili

@vantai792 Жыл бұрын

japan SMALL eyes but 2D anime big EYES haizzzz life is LIES

@Ramsey276one Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the info on price range Even I could save for one maybe? ;)

@MikeCore Жыл бұрын

The actual character models also matter in the comparison, they should of both been miku, the other one could just be rigged worse with worse weightpainting which would mess with the results of the comparison. also i'd honestly rather you compared Vive fbt puck setup vs the 25k since it's still an affordable reach that was definitely better than the 100$ one for many. but omg, taking it just for the dancing, this is amazing.

@riririririkakaka Жыл бұрын

I think it’s ¥ (Yen.) 25,000 Yen is about 190.5 United States money.

@4299enjoyer Жыл бұрын

@@riririririkakaka the title says dollars

@plipplop1769 Жыл бұрын

@@riririririkakaka no it isn’t lmao 100jpy would be insane

@adicsbtw Жыл бұрын

I'd personally like to see a comparison against SlimeVR, Haritora, StonX, or Sony's equivalent. They all use physical trackers, but are lower profile and cheaper than vive trackers, albeit with reduced precision. I'd be curious how well those stack up to a proper mocap setup. I've personally been using SlimeVR for a while now, and it works decently, but I'm curious how it would perform for high activity like this. I never stress the system that much myself

@Ikxi Жыл бұрын

@@adicsbtw for slime vr, thrill seeker made a video he tests a lot of this stuff

@itssquishy3364 8 ай бұрын

I watched the whole thing without realising I was. Every moment was pleasant. I love this woman

@geekygoggles628 Жыл бұрын

Go Akira! Love the moves. Pulled it off looking effortless, queen. 👌🏽✨️

@matrixiekitty2127 Жыл бұрын

It’s really cool to see a person behind the dancing in vocaloid games!

@jacksc9855 Жыл бұрын

Can we appreciate how amazing the dancer is. Her movement is so smooth and mesmerizing to watch.

@Megan-bt9pm Жыл бұрын

I really like that a lot of the moves were to highlight potential challenges with this kind of technology. Spins, arms going behind the head or body, arms going straight forward, moving between foreground and background, points of precision movement, head movement, etc. It definitely showcases the more expensive equipment that clearly spent money to address these things while the cheapest one freaked out. If the camera can't understand depth of field well or can only see what is seen from the front, of course it will have those issues where one that uses a different system won't. So I like that the dance was both entertaining and made sure to make it an honest comparison rather than something "easy" to give the cheap one a chance.

@hydroaegis6658 Жыл бұрын

Damn anime girl body proportions are insane when side by side with real people.

@Krischenn Жыл бұрын

It’s the technology that always gets me. Mocap is awesome 👏🏽

@Tackitos Жыл бұрын

2:50 Actor - Spins Miku - Spins Other - Was that a challenge?!

@Rad_Dan Жыл бұрын

It’s like when you’re playing Rhythm Heaven, and you’re the only one in the trio that can’t keep time 😂

@Nick77ab2 Жыл бұрын

I almost forgot what I came here for. Those were some crazy moves. Real smooth.

@meino6465 Жыл бұрын

The accuracy in the arm twirl at 3:28 is seriously mind blowing

@kavier2581 Жыл бұрын

The finger movements at 1:14 - 1:16 also, so detailed

@ytplol8446 Жыл бұрын

@@kavier2581 Those are easy compared to the one with the head n shoulders hand thing tho..

@vantai792 Жыл бұрын

japan SMALL eyes but 2D anime big EYES haizzzz life is LIES

@ziron5385 Жыл бұрын

Left model : *finger gun*

@thighmeat6034 Жыл бұрын

The song is hiasobi (ヒアソビ) by camellia in case you didn’t know

@melancholy0003 Жыл бұрын

You are a god among mortals I’ve been looking for someone who knew the song 🙏 ☺️

@gaius961 Жыл бұрын

Thank you

@jrisplays3177 11 ай бұрын

i love how she loves what she is doing and it definitely made me inspired to do what i want.

@TebbleTV Жыл бұрын

Very nice tracking and the mocap is similar to the Kinects when used for virtual FBT trackers in VR. I see similar limitations with not able to do subtle movements and only ever being able to face forward for tracking and even some issues with the arms when pointing ahead instead of outward like in the final pose as the end of the dance.

@Chruh Жыл бұрын

That kick at 3:13 has me dying laughing every time I watch it. I swear the left model looked like she was about to kick that leg clean off her body.

@sniperhawk6969 Жыл бұрын

the mocap is cool but im just so much more impressed by the dancer, like DAMN that was insane

@mio-chanl2222 Жыл бұрын

Господи! Танцовщица вызывает восхищение! Восторг, абсолютный восторг! 😊❤

@lebro4401 8 ай бұрын

Ok my brain became stupid for a second then realized it Camellia's song feat miku from Crypton

@neverneverland5836 Жыл бұрын

Even though the 25k one is clearly a lot better, honestly I'm surprised by how good the 100$ one looks. It's a bit clunky and a lot less expressive but for something so, so, so much cheaper, it performs a lot better than I would have guessed! It seems well worth the money paid, tbh

@GerriFuryman Жыл бұрын

And 100$ is in reality just a scam, because its just ripoff of free program caled ThreeDPoseTracker, you can find more info about it and dont waste 100$ on this)

@utopes Жыл бұрын

I know a lot of people are talking about the 100 dollar one getting kinda destroyed, but jfc if this isn’t the best/most lively dancer, the girl in the middle absolutely freaking SLAYED THIS SONG THOUGH HOLY FUCK THIS WAS SO GOOD?????

@utopes 4 ай бұрын

I think about this video allot. it’s rly good. Borderline perfect. It is perfect.

@aff77141 Жыл бұрын

Can we appreciate the dancer? Incredible work, I've never seen someone move like that

@GippyHappy 3 ай бұрын

Came for a tech demo but stayed to watch those sick dance moves

@glgunblade Жыл бұрын

As others have stated I did like the $100 one for being roughly decent when compared to a $25000. At the same time the professional one captured so much of the smaller movements that it feels like it's almost worth that 250x extra price... Great dance moves and great capture of those dance moves.

@TWEAKLET Жыл бұрын

i mean if you get popular enough the 25k one is well worth it ive seen big streamers drop that much on pcs you can do 1million plus a year in ad revenue sponsors subscriptions/donation with just 3k concurrent viewers depending on your streaming platform

@Faelijah Жыл бұрын

She must be having so much fun! Look at her smiling through the whole dance. This is the kind of fun i'd love to have aswell.

@whollymindless 7 ай бұрын

The capture of limb rotations makes the rest of the moves so clear and intentional. Thanks for showing it off. And respect to the dancer, I'm worn out just watching!

@pillboys Жыл бұрын

i know this is supposed to showcase the differences but i cant stop watching the choreo specifically on the dancer (+ miku cuz you can see the movements better w/o the obstruction at the bottom)… so much energy, great choreo, and theyre clearly having a lot of fun ❤

@andywilson4789 Жыл бұрын

I dont really care about the equipment I just stayed cause the dance kinda fire.

@chewingpeppers Жыл бұрын

I think that if the $100 blinked a little, she could look more realistic... and wow, I'm truly impressed with how natural and good the $25k hatsune miku is, she nailed all moves. I love your dance and your energy, by the way!

@peaaanuuutz 8 ай бұрын

I thoroughly enjoyed this omg!

@f33rcetv34 Жыл бұрын

that choreo was insane ! nice

@TV-op5dg Жыл бұрын

I've never seen a dance that makes me so happy. How can I search for more of this style of dance?

@bluesaber4338 Жыл бұрын

It’s a miku song dance, that one specifically is hiasobi (play with fire), but there’s a lot of others like it, try looking up vocaloid mmds and you’ll probably find a lot

@fafau06 Жыл бұрын

this style of dance is usually called "B-Boy"or "B-Girl" depending on who's performing however if you like the dancer featured in this here video then you could look for "B-GIRL AKIRA", that's the dancer's own channel on YT and if you want some more, then try looking for MobiusP, that guy's usually the engineer for the mocap (including this one iirc) and have mo-capped from various dancers of roughly the same style, so you might find something similar to this although he doesn't have a channel here on YT, the dancers that have worked with him do post the side-by-side (the mocap dancer with some anime chara) video just like this one on YT

@antoinette... Жыл бұрын

For the style of dance, the pre-chorus had a lot of "vogue" with the arms and hands. At the chorus there was a lot more "swing" with the legs. Seems very influenced by the electric swing style.

@fafau06 Жыл бұрын

@@antoinette... that would makes sense considering the song she dances to (Hiasobi: Play With Fire) is actually an Electric Swing song pretty cool to know that the dancer managed to keep the spirit of the genre

@TastyMackerel Жыл бұрын

Check out the channel of the person in the video, she does quite some original choreography: www.youtube.com/@BGIRLAKIRA As for the style depicted here, there's no one specific genre since it's a mix of a few different styles. The fast arm swing like at 0:25 is Waacking dance, while most of the footwork is House dance so I suggest looking those up. House dance is VERY popular amongst Japanese dancer so try looking up "踊ってみた" (lit: i tried to dance) if you wanna see Vocaloid song dance covers in similar style.

@N0Sbunny Жыл бұрын

The 3d models are good, but I gotta say it was hard to observe them, the live dancer is AMAZING!!

@GuppyStarVT 8 ай бұрын

Ikr!!!

@gamaliel5584 Жыл бұрын

$25.000 just to make an animated character dance like you is crazy

@lilkeyla5769 9 ай бұрын

Its so to see the comparison oo also person is such an amazing dancer :0

@Awesomedefenders Жыл бұрын

This is a first, seeing a dance that seems so full of energy and gives this fun vibe.

@jintei8524 Жыл бұрын

For 25k you can become rl miku. Bros caught me off guard

@thelivingfailure Жыл бұрын

Its ok village girl, you tried your best

@bit-studios1 11 ай бұрын

My mind is blown right now!!! I definitely have to tryout this software for myself. Also, that dancer is outstanding!!! 💃🏻❤️🤯👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿🙌🏿

@Mezzy.. Жыл бұрын

Wow how did the dancer not get tired once doing that whole choreography? And she did not miss a beat

@vantai792 Жыл бұрын

japan SMALL eyes but 2D anime big EYES haizzzz life is LIES

@ko-fl8hu Жыл бұрын

@@vantai792 Person with Vietnamese name finds out Japanese people are Asian, more at 11.

@skengels Жыл бұрын

you get endurance through working out regularly... when I was younger and my knees didn't hurt, I did 5 mile runs w/o breaks (now it's aerobics & some weightlifting). It's time for you to start cardio my dude. It feels awesome to be in cardio shape, it's what out bodies are built for. It feels like flying sometimes.

@oktarianist6174 10 ай бұрын

@@ko-fl8hubot lol ignore

@user-tm2yx7yj5g Жыл бұрын

反映されないのに表情作ってるの、ダンスが好きってのが伝わって好き

@gabrote42 8 ай бұрын

It does show though. Look around 0:57

@Mexicavillebrandon Жыл бұрын

Its hard to compare the two when I'm so distracted by your impressive dancing skills

@TheViciousVendetta Жыл бұрын

Who is the dancer?? I gotta see more of her! That body roll was so clean!

@jubeisato1060 Жыл бұрын

This is so exceptional! Seriously. Consider how perfectly centered the dancer stays the whole time, even with all that movement. (B-Girl Akira) She definitely earns the name, I totally forgot the purpose of this comparison and just watched her the whole time. LOVE it.