And top to top it all, no political strings attached, and no export restrictions from either China or Pakistan on JF-17, any country other than India or Israel, can acquire it. But F-16 has a heavy export related restrictions and limited capabilities and further threat of stopping spare parts by US, which is a clear disadvantage for F-16.

Poor research, Combat range of jf 17 is 1200 km not 900km and ferry range is 3482km not 1800km. Current block is using RD-93MA and thrust of this is 9300 Kgf, Radar is latest KLJ-7A (V2) 200 km (for RCS of 5 m2). In JF17, PL15 long range missile is integrated with an impressive range from 145 km till 300km, depend on variants make this jet a very strong presence in front of his enemy.

The stats are very close. F-16 carries more fuel but due to heavy weight it burns it much faster, and top speed is only 100+ MPH more, while JF-17 has greater Combat Range of almost 500 Nautical Miles, versus 300 Nmi, of F-16, so less its less costly to fly. And JF-17 costs almost 1/3 less than F-16, so even price wise, JF-17 is a clear winner.

Pakistan's JF-17 Thunder Block 3 has overtaken the US's F-16

As indian I can say Pakistan is our offical father Pakistani tea is fantastic... love Pakistan from India 🇮🇳

Combat range of jf 17 is 1200 km not 900km and ferry range is 3482km not 1800km

I am Chinese, jf17 is a Pakistani fighter jet, China only participated in the research and development, this is like saying that kf21 is not a Korean fighter jet but an American fighter jet

PAKISTAN WITH FIGHTER JET JF 17 THUNDER BLOCK 2 SHOTDOWN 2 INDIAN JET SAKHOI 30MKI AND MIG 21 JET FEB 27 2019 PAK INDIA CONFLICT

Why do you need a 110 million f-16 if you can have a jf-17 with pl-15 and pl-17 missiles at a third of the cost..

JF-17of Pakistan is the WINNER. It is relatively recent Fighter Jet, in joint development and production between Pakistan and China, for about 20 years. While F-16 is carried over from R&D carried out in 1960s and 70s, with over 60 years, a very old fighter jet, but JF-17 has caught up very quickly in such short span, and continues to evolve. So JF-17 wins.

JF 17 block 3 has Aesa radar and IRST which F16 does not.

JF 17 BLOCK 3 with chines engine and AESA radar and PL 15 bvr missiles is far superior then F16 block 72

Pakistan's JF-17 Block 3 has overtaken the US's f16🤗

A true comparison depends on many things, not just the technical specifications. Even a 1 vs 1 duel is not very relavant. One must consider the cost to purchase, operate and maintain, pilot training, serviceability, availability of spare parts and skilled technicians, compatibility with available weaponry, interoperability with other systems and with potential allies, the type of missions in which it's likely to engage, the enemies it's likely to encounter, and a whole lot of other things.

F16 newest block is still good. but it is too expensive, you are talking about 110 millions fully armed . Jf17 series two and three are a very capable light weights fighter and multi mission jets. similar to gripen of sweden. if they have a awacs support, they can do alot of abush and can kill all 4th generation jets. F16 is a medium weigh like j10 and rafael

Jf17 is a joint fighter developed by Pakistan 55% and china 45% than how its a Chinese jet🤬

India is always afraid of Pakistan's JF-17 Thunder, India's international fighter jet also thinks 1000 times to fight air war with Pakistan.

JF17 seems to be becoming a far better, more viable option in more aspects than F16 boasts, thus becoming the future war game changer.

JF 17 thunder block 3 is a masterpiece. 🇵🇰❤️🇹🇷

JF17 is a Light weight Multirole 4++ Gen Aircraft ... F16 is a Mediums Weight Multirole 4++ Gen Aircraft ...

JF-17 is better than F-22 Raptor also because it is much cheaper.😅😅 Literally every Pakistani logic in the comment section.😅

Jf17 great new jet

Jf17 is one of the best fighter jet in the 🌎 world

One more advantage for pakistan is that it is becoming expert in this technology and in future will be able to produce even better projects.

Oh. You forgot to mention the price difference.

Who da hell is comparing F-16 mighty warplane with chinese warplanes?????? F-16 is a technological wizardry !!

no comparison between a world most successful medium size F-16 vs a modest light weight fighter. JF17 is a decent and promising fighter drawing its inspiration from a bigger better F-16 and that's pretty much it.

Compare jf 17 block 3 with F16 missle range is better than F16

No comparison…apples and oranges

After RD-93MA and AESA integration, Jeff has become deadly

Your comparison on the F-16 figures is a combination of truth and falsehood. Firstly just like the Wikipiedia slander of al the JF17 Thunder blocks (1,2and3) having the same service ceiling and top speed is a total falsehood. The empty weight of the block 1 and 2 Thunder are written correctly as 7965 while t-e Block 3 variant using composites in many areas is 6411 Kg, a wiki slander and also a 19.5% slander in this KZfaq video. As for the engine thrust which was kept in secrecy with many presuming the 10 Kn Chinese WS13E engine fitted as Russia for some reason did not give the improved RD93 MA engine which they did later on with an improved 2090 pounds thrust over the older ,1866 pounds thrust of the plain RD93 engine. A difference of 12% increase in power! So while the ceiling of the older blocks was 55400 feet yet higher than the 50,000 feet service ceiling of the 400 million $ F22 Raptor.. So The JF17 block3 with a 19.4℅ lighter airframe and 12℅ more thrust power the service ceiling of the Block 3 Thunder is actually 66,000 feet! while the F-16 has a ceiling of around 57000-58000 feet, and the 400 $ million Raptors is only 50,000 feet some 5000 feet lower than the block 1and 2 Thunder and some 16000 feet below the block 3 Thunder! While a layman understands things like power to weight ratio in an aircraft has real different facts that are real crucial factors affecting service ceiling and top speed. These factors are aerodynamic parasite drag that increases by the square root and also the size of the supersonic shock bow waves formed on the wings and fuselage at high Mach numbers. So to explain in an easy to understand manner imagine a pin flying through the air, and a thick marker flying through the air. I would like to say something quite shocking, that is that the Lockheed F-104 Starfighter with a 16000 pounds thrust engine (Even lesser than the 1866pounds of thrust of the JF17 Thunder Block 1) thrust engine reached high speeds of Mach 2.2 in 1954, in fact the first fighter aircraft to reach and cross the dreaded Mach 2 speed. and set a record height of 103,395 feet in 1959, At the beginning of space. Also please note that the F104 Starfighter had one of the worst power to weight ratio of around 0.54 compared to the F22's best of 1.1 but the F22 has only a service ceiling of 50,000 feet! Why? Like I said before power to weight ratio is not the crucial factor that is power to drag ratio and also the size and magnitude of the supersonic shock bow waves. The F-35 has the most powerful single engine thrust engine of 43000 pounds with a ceiling close to 60,000 feet.. Like I said imagine a pin flying through the air and a fat marker at high speeds. The F104 was widely called a missile flying through the air with wings as an afterthought. I'll give more insight about the brilliant F104 after the end of this article. The F104's wings were only 1 inch thick where the ailerons were attached so the supersonic shock waves were of much lesser magnitude than an F16. An F16 carries some 7000 pounds of fuel mostly in the wings making them much thicker and hence very high magnitude supersonic shock waves also the wingspan of a F104 was 21 feet + while the F16 is 31 feet with also a thicker frontal area fuselage again meaning much reduced supersonic shock waves. When an aircraft is flying at 9 times faster than the stall speed the aircraft produces some 81 times more drag (9x9=81) and that also with the much larger supersonic shock waves. That is why the F,104 flew at 103,385 feet! Well higher than an F-16 and much higher than the most powerful F35 with a 43000 pounds thrust engine. Yet the F104 had only a 16000 pounds thrust engine and one of the worst thrust to weight ratios of 0.54. While this video is really a comparison between a JF17 Thunder and an F-16 and not an F104 which I mentioned because of how drag affects performance. The wing area of a JF17 Thunder is only 263 square feet while that of the F-16 is 300 square feet and slightly thicker wings to carry more fuel for the bigger engine. So at 9 times the stall speed the F,16 is using all that power of 81 times over a much bigger wing drag area and supersonic shock waves while the 263 square feet area (300 sq. feet F16)of the thunder and slimmer wings with smaller supersonic shock waves makes the aircraft climb to a much higher service ceiling of 66,000 fee vs. 56"000 to 58,000 of the F16.The top speed of the Thunder is Mach1.8 to Mach 2, very close to the F16. Here I would also like to say that in the 2019 Paris Air Show a French made Rafael climbed as high as that could and tried to impress. The Pakistani KZfaq commentator was using the wrong terminology of figures but yet the lighter powered Jf17 Block 2 with the lesser 1866 pounds thrust engines reached almost double the height of the Rafael having the anchors eyes popping out! The aircraft was piloted brilliantly by the PAF's Wing Commander Zeeshan By Providence. The service ceiling in most articles of a Rafael is 50,000 feet and in Wikipedia mentioned as 52,000 feet. So in terms of ceiling and top speed the JF17 is much higher in the ceiling and just about as fast in top speed. Now lets talk about BVR (beyond visual range) missiles. The PinYin missiles of the JF17 Thunder have a 300 km range with the brilliant Chinese engineers working to increase that to around 400 km. In contrast the best USA BVR AAMRAM missile have a 150 km range and the French meteor missiles also have a 150 km BVR range. As far as the radar goes only the 2023 F16's have an AESA radar while conventional radars were used in the 2022 F16 had no AESA radar so when they used the conventional radar that would give the position game away letting everyone know where the F16 was. As far as a better instantaneous rate of turn of the French Rafael primarily due to the larger wing area well that is negated by a Thunder with a helmet mounted gun sight borrowed from the top Chinese J20 stealth fighter. All the Thunder pilot has to do is to turn his/her head 30-35 degrees left or right get the aircraft in the helmet gun sight locked on and fire the missile. Due to space limitations I'm ending this article but like I mentioned at the end I'd like to say a few things for which the F104 was wrongly blamed for. This was because the F104 was a high speed aircraft and was not meant to be was used for deck level flying ordered by the USAF to the German Luftwaffe. True the small wing area meant a high wing loading meaning stability but the high speed aircraft made dangerous overcorrections near the ground thus killing 115 Luftwaffe pilots mainly due to bird strikes at those deck level altitudes. The F104 was given the wrong name of "WIDDOW MAKER" for compelling the aircraft to do slow deck level flights that wasn't certainly designed for. The aces of aces Erich Von Hartman with 352 aerial victories compared with 42 of the top US ace Richard Bong and was only 22 years old when WW2 ended. He was retired from his post as a major in the Luftwaffe by the USAF as he was vehemently opposed to these dangerous low level suicide like flights of the F104.. Another thing about the F104 is that was famous that the plane would bank but hardly turn. That is because the lift vector is at 90 degrees to the wings and with such short small wings, the wings gave out a very small turn vector. That really didn't matter because the plane was designed as a high speed fighter interceptor to speed along to the enemy target and fire the AIM-9 sidewinder missiles and fly away as the plane was not meant to be a dog fighter, but rather a high speed missile firing interceptor. Just like the F35 stealth fighter, the naval version being stressed to only 7.5 G's not giving that any real dogfighting capabilities. The USAF pilots also do not like the touch functions on the 200.15$ F-35 preferring the F-16 viper’s toggle switches to the F-35 touch screen which works only 80% of the time.

India will always do this hate and hate but the reality is you can’t even sell your jets can you..

A Great addition to the avionic industry, upcoming beast

China does not operate JF-17, i expect it to be a capable aircraft especially the block 3, with the latest in Chinese technology ie weapons, operating system, computer components etc

Not to forget cost factor. One F16 cost is equal to Three JF17

They're not on the same league. F 16s and F 15s of usa are the best ever done aircrafts all over the world.

JF-17最大亮点可挂载PL-15E（145KM）

Why India doesn't buy US fighter jet?

Is that version one of JF 17

If 17 is just great f16 was great in past now this era is belong with Jf 17

Pakistani jf 17 block 3 New was amazing work ❤🇵🇰

Ofcourse f-16 is far better than jf17.🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

You made a wrong comparison... it should be F-16 and J-10

Bro us tell the price and maintenance cost as the f 16 is too expensive as well too costly to maintain Also some of your info is a bit old renew it

It’s a Pakistani Chinese joint venture hence called JF17 (joint fighter 17)

Nice video sir thanks love from Halifax England uk 🇬🇧 💕🇵🇰

They are both true Fighter Jets

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Wrong information :: JF -17 block 3 combat range 1200km . Ferry Range 3882km... also JF-17 Block 3 EW system better than f16 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗

MORE BEFITTING COMPARISON WOULD BE BETWEEN J 10 & F16.

And yet Pakistan Air force still considers F 16 as its main combat fighter jet

JF17 was built to be the Chinese Mirage 5 (which Pakistan has it) or the Chinese Mirage 2000 (which India has it) & for export , Not to mimic the F-16 the J-10 project is the one built to be the Chinese F-16

Personally, it bothers me when someone is giving so many arguments that have nothing to do with the technical specifications of the aircraft, such as "demand", "popularity", etc. What is really interesting is knowing the technical specifications and the capabilities of each one of these fighter planes, obviously your opinion is biased in favor of the United States fighter planes.

10th gen aircraft 😂😂 They will go to space 🚀

اذن الصينية نسخة من قدرات الامريكية من ميغ سوفياتية ايضا كل الاحترام لمن يصنع سواء بهندسة عكسية او يصنع ويطور

wrong Comparison JF17 is LCA and F16 MCA fighter but i still think JF17 is winner

Jeff 17 is such a jet in this world that can fight even in space. This is the only jet in the world which has been made by this country. He himself does not use this jet. This world's only jet whose pants are made in Pakistan, the entire jet has become made in Pakistan.

Ha Ha Ha. This JF 17 Blunder's figures are all fudged. This fighter will never participate in any war exercises because it will expose all its uselessness. With such power & wing loading, this plane won't be able to do any vertical climb or make a sharp curve. So the 13k weapon carrying capability is a joke. Even in the Dubai air show you can see this fighter can't even turn or climb vertically with no weapons or empty weight comparing to the Tejas & they are comparing it with F 16, Rafales & Gripens. This fighter will not have a combat radius of more than 600 Kms with fully loaded weapons. I doubt it will even dare to climb near 50000 feet with weapons loaded. Neither the engine nor the Chinese Radars have the power to support 100+ Km tracking. These radars will only be able to track enemy missiles to max 70/80 kms in BVR with those engine power, price & quality, even if your establishment give claims of 150/200 or 300 Km range missiles it's of no use because the radar doesn't support that range. If these Chinese radars are so powerful they would be selling like hot cakes in the international mkt. Already there is rumors from pak forces & news from Myanmaar the radar is very poor. It mal functions & hangs & is useless. Any sensible country will buy 1 Rafale, Gripen or F 16 even if that same money can buy 2 or 3 JF17's. Reason they know buying 1 will kill 8-10 JF 17's with that investment because in reality the JF 17 will be a sitting duck in BVR with all these fighters & JF17 will not be able to see any fighter beyond 70-80 km. And given this jet has 3rd Gen metal body & RD93 smokey engine it is an absolute dud in BVR. That's the reason countries are paying double & triple the amount & buying these Rafales, Gripens & F 16's & not JF 17's. Even in future it will be same, no country will buy JF 17's considering its uselessness as what the reality & what these social media & key board warriors believe is world apart The same hype was created on Al Khalid tanks (Chinese MBT-2000 or Type 90-IIM tank) in the early 2000's. They were mocking India & MBT Arjuns with claims of out of the world tank & listing it in World Top 10's by Pakistanis. Today you won't see it in any war exercise or international defence forum nor the Pak establishment speaking on Al Khalid MK2, upgrades or exports. Why? because it is a failed & scrapped project. People may not know the Al Khalid's were also not inducted in the Chinese Army due to it's uselessness. As per HIT, each Al-Khalid MBT costs $30 million i.e., close to three times the cost of an average T-90 tank, which not only makes them super expensive but also technically inferior, unreliable & useless as it is plagued with several issues with tendencies to break down on the battleground if put to intense use. For Years Pakistanis kept working on this so-called “PRIDE OF THE NATION” Al-Khalid's to fix all its issues, but issues remained & financially it was getting out of hand for the incompetent Pakistani engineers. So the production was stopped at 310 units in 2014 itself & secretly the program was buried without much hyper Halla Bulla. Talks of Pakistan working on the development of Al-Khalid-2 & 3 has done rounds for 2 decades, but there has been no-show, as Pakistani establishment are helpless & incapable to maintain existing ones forget upgrade or development. Recently Pakistan quietly procured VT4 tanks from China again. So the JF 17 will also cost 5-10 times more than Rafales, Gripens, F 16's to maintain eventually making it a unbearable & useless jet to fly or even have in the inventory. JF 17's was not inducted by Chinese Airforce like the Al Khalid's because it is a toothless & useless aircraft. In coming 10 years, the JF 17 will no more be there for production or export as it will die the same death of Al Khalid. I doubt if countries will opt for these junks even as trainers though that would be an area Pakistan can pitch for rather than as a fighter. Fake patriotism will not sell machines outside. It is only for internal buying & consumption. The world won't buy it. The Pakistanis have been listing JF 17 in the Top 10 best fighters of the world where there was no J10 ever & if this fighter is so great why they buy a inferior J10 which doesn't even list in the top 10. What a joke. In coming years when Pak forces stop speaking about J17 & buy more J10's these foolish warriors will start listing J10's in Top 10 & comparing it with same Rafales, Gripens & F16's even F35's. Wait & watch.

jf17 far better than f16

The unnecessary music makes the video's a joke... Such unnecessary sounds dont suits with an informative video.

the JF17 is more Pakistani jet than Chinese

Yeah but the F-16 cost a hell of a lot more though cost more than twice as much maybe three times as much

It is not fair to compare JF17 which could be 10 times cheaper than F 16.

Jf 17 thunder black 3 price

we proude on jf 17 because this is our fighter jet all eurpean countries like to supply fughter to india whereas if they sale us f16 they demand to si 6:10 gn these jet will not be use against india

Jf 17 is Pak/China fighter not China alone we have 49% share in it correct your research

With a price tag difference of 300%………the F-16 has to be 300% better than the JF-17……otherwise the F-16 is an ineffective failed fighter jet.

In KZfaq you can compare a toy to Rocket. No big deal.😂.

JF17 is the pride of Pakistan and Pakistan Air Force

This fighter is so good that not a single jf-17 is operated by China 😂

poverty researched figures about JF 17 are not accurate

J-10❤ JF-17 3VS SU-30 MIRAGE 2000-5 RAFALE

jf-17 is light fighter as compare to f-16 which is medium. jf-17 is modern take of f-20 tiger shark. f-16 is comparable to j-10, Pakistan is the only country to possess f-16s jf-17s all variants and j-10c the most advance variant.

So Basically JF 17 is good for Smaller or medium size countries. Perfect for Pakistan, yes F16s are slightly better, but JF17 can be modernized in the same way in the future, but Jf-17 are equally capable to fight, no doubt about that

Why not comparing jf15 block 3 😂😂😂😂😂 better then f16 which cost 100 time more 😮

Your thumbnail is funny

Better U would have given Cost Comparison.......!

So the main vital thing is the engine!

Is there any point in comparing a junk bin with a fighter jet?

I think yu don't know about jf17 next generation 🚀🚀🚀

Atleast comparison started but yet Teja poop from india not here even in the list...😂😂😂

Don't ignore India's Hal Tejas

Some facts about JF17 that you missed - 1) Dubai 2021, LIMA 2019, Bahrain 2016. Each time the Indian Tejas participated in an air show, the Pakistani team cancelled their JF17 participation, ceded participation fee and ran away 2) The manufacturing country China does not use jf17 and only export it to poor countries 3) The all metal airframe has poor manufacturing quality resulting in an availability of around 40% for Pakistan Air Force 4)The performance and reliability of jf17 is so bad that both export customers, Myanmar as well as Nigeria air forces have grounded this aircraft 5)Even after buying 150 of these jf17 the Pakistan Air Force still relies mainly on their old American f16 and has also started buying Chinese J10 fighter, acknowledging their dissatisfaction with this junk jf17 6)JF17 Block 1 and 2 do not have AESA radar, no in flight refueling, only two dimensional fly by wire, all metal body causing high weight, low thurst weight ratio, older electronics and only Chinese weapons to fire 7)The newer block 3 jf17 variant has a cheaper air cooled AESA radar unable to operate at max power and hence lower range. Further, block 3 retains the same old Russian rd93 based engines, uses pod based electronic warfare as well as same metal body and build quality as older block 1 & 2. Further it uses pod based electronic warfare, doesn’t have sensor fusion and neither has any active/shape stealth features which might have given it a face saver. Contrary to this, the Indian Air Force is impressed with the performance numbers of their baseline Tejas variant over the past four years, so much so that they have placed orders for 83 additional Tejas aircraft in improved mk1a configuration. Further the Indian Air Force is ordering another 100 Tejas mk1a aircraft The Tejas aircraft is also evolving further with the mk2 variant as well as a naval variant called tedbf The availability numbers of Pakistani jf17 are mostly hidden by Pakistan Air Force, but the Myanmar and Nigerians are more vocal about their dissatisfaction. These have been detailed in pentapostagma as well as irrawaddy

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Your knowledge is incomplete about the jf17

JF-17 is in single seat configuration not two seat.

Bro u forget it's rd 99 new engine not rd33

Totally wrong comparison mean thing is rader and weapons which jf 17 batter and speed also faster then f16

What about cost 😆

Pakistani air force now us block 3 Jf 17 more beater,

Hahhahah you deliberately skipped price which is way less than f 16. Tech difference is slight where as price difference is humangus

Wrong comparison it should be j10 Vs f16

JF 17 THUNDER COMBATE RANGE 3450 KM HAI You are making wrong comparisons, you are only there to please India

Jf17 power by russian rd93m Not the rd 33. Otherwise f16 is a legendary aircraft.

Bro you have limited knowledge of jf 17 thunder......

Jf 17❤

Pakistani JF17 THANDER

it's like "original DVD movie disc v.s. Pirated DVD movie disc"

Pakistan have both jf-17 and f-16.

Incomplete video without price compare