yeah, that's the reason why Brasil doesnt have the MBT Osório, it was better than the abrams, but...corruption happened!

@@lino222 first that Osório was not developed for Brazil, it is for other countries.

@@Alone-ss9tq That's why you are alone. just talk shit all the time.

@@lino222 Urban legend in Portuguese.

@@Alone-ss9tq when u don't know, stay quiet! Osório was made to be sold abroad, it also had a version with a diferent gun for Brasil, saudi arabia was evaluating several mbt's to place an order (Osório, abrams, amx40, challenger)...Osório was superior during the tests, they only chose the abrams due to back door deals. when i say Brasil doesn't have it, wasn't Engesa a Brasilian company? and if they had been sold internationally, Brasil would of bought them as well.

Portugal and Hungary already have kc390 also.

Brazilian engineering

They ordered 5 actually

Brazil

@@bernardogouvea already buyed*

The cost of the F35's flight time is around 25 to 30 thousand dollars. The Gripen NG is around 4.7 to 7 thousand dollars.

@@michaelhenzell2 Indeed, folks underestimate the E/F versions of the Gripen, and Embraer sure is an incredible company too.

@Curupira Disse Curupira

I think F35 is so expensive because it is a 5th generation fighter jet, Gripen 4.5

It really makes me laugh to see comments about the Gippen NG and Brazil for the umpteenth time The Grippen NG is nothing more than a tweaked and slightly modernized version of the Grippen E for export If the grippen NG made its first flight in 2008, and the contract for the purchase of the 36 units of the Grippen NG by Brazil was signed in 2015, can you please explain to me how it is possible that Brazil/Embraer participated in the development of the plane? The purchase contract for the 36 Grippen units that the FAB has signed with Saab, indicates that the last 24 units will be ASSEMBLED, not manufactured, in Brazil. And that embraer will install part of the specific avionics for Brazil, so that the devices can operate with the arsenal that the FAB currently has, nothing more, the rest are your inventions The plane is entirely Swedish, just as the submarines it is manufacturing are a variant of the Scorpene that is of Spanish-French design. What must be attributed is the design and manufacture of the C-390... that one is Brazilian, the other is not Please do not make up data or news

Kkkjk

I'll do too

Cabo Frio waits for you and your family next carnival holyday

Be careful, the change of oil and filter is very expensive.

@Curupira disse o curupira

The Brazilian Air Force DIDN’T developed the KC-390, it just gave it’s requirements and EMB developed accordingly. The only important contribution from the Air Force was during flight test certification.

Estão de olho mesmo! 👀✈️

​@@flavioc5389 well the money came from the air force so much so that the project could be better but as there was a lack of money the plane will not go further for that reason

@@flavioc5389 Ok, Embraer woke up one day and said, look, let's build a competitor to the C-130, after all we have several closed buyers... we have all the operator know-how, we don't need anyone...

@@flavioc5389 And each military equipment has its mission and application, I doubt that any military project of any nation that has the technology is not accompanied by them, let alone a project of this size.

Yes there are not from the same era at all - Yes the Herc was updated but only a little bit - its bones are ancient (and still pretty good)

Nope. The Hercules is one of the best and modern tactical Aircraft.

Can the KC-390 land and take off short distances on rough unprepared surfaces?

I can't answer with any certainty but there is a C-390 vs C-130 comparison on KZfaq. @@abergethirty

​@@abergethirtyÉ a especialidade dele.

Have you seen the list of systems and capability the J has?

@@Relics_tv have you seen the list of systems and capabilities the 390 has?

Duh, the C-130 first introduced in 1956 or 1957. There is a reason why so many are still being sold. It Not because of nostalgia. I’m sure the KC 390 is an extremely good aircraft. Brazil has had a very good aircraft industry for a long time.

@@Relics_tv dude don't pay attention to his comment, I'm Brazilian and I say many Brazilians think that only Brazilian equipment is good, and there were even some Brazilians thinking that the f39 flun could take down an f 22 raptor or an f 35.

@@jeffstone7912 guy doesn't pay attention to his comment, many brazilians think that only their equipment is good

Yes, this is because the KC390 is a modern project while the C130 is very old. But, these yakees are bad losers, they have sabotaged our projects in the past and continue to sabotage them, a great example of this sabotage was the Osório that destroyed the Abrams in a competition in Saudi Arabia. recently, the Yankees(Boing) wanted to buy Embraer, because they don't want competition. Otherwise they would have destroyed the Brazilian company.

Why only few countries bought KC 390 if it is superior and cheaper than C130J

@@tab529 Because of political pressure from the United States and also because the C130 is more affordable for used aircraft purchases.

The KC-390 is new and is superior in many ways compare to the A130 which is introduced decades ago and is quickly getting outdated in terms of performance and capacity.

When the last KC-390 too old to fly anymore and is pulled from service, the C-130 will still be rolling off the assembly line.

Hope India 🇮🇳 selects C390 over C130j, it's a huge order of 60-80 aircraft.

As you and your country should be… An excellent design and a great aircraft ! The C-130 family has been around for over 60 years… Lockheed needs to be working towards a Smaller version of the C-17 Globemaster… with twin turbofan engines.

Complexo de Vira- latas, Palhaço 🤡

@Curupira Se ao menos conhecesse as diferenças não estaria falando besteiras. O KC-390 é multifuncional, mais silencioso, mais econômico, maior carga, maior rapidez, mais tecnológico, mais novo... e além disso, nem banheiro fechado o Hércules possui, otário. Vai estudar!

@Curupira Drugs kids, dont do Drugs.

@Curupira Fumou uma do tamanho de um hércules mesmo

Ikr, I thought of that as well, but looking at the measurements, you see it's even bigger here and there.

It is. The video didn't address pallet postions or capacities etc lol

​@@Potatosaurusrex1 C390 Carries 7 tons more.

A lot of C130 aircraft are the stretched version, I don't believe the c390 has a a Stretched version

Ele e menos para pousar em pista curta e irregular. E ele sendo menor,ainda ele tem mais capacidade de carga.

Actually third, Hungary bought some too

@@Arthur76180 Ur right !

Portugal bought 5 KC-390 with one more unit of option at the end of the contract. you can see one of those 5 that Portugal ordered, already done.

Lockheed won't be to sad; we also ordered more F-35's

Actually, the KC390 was partially built by NATO members. Therefore USA has nothing to complain about it.

Obrigado amigo por gostar de nosso avião!🤝

Embraer has manufactured more than 8,000 aircraft since its founding. It is the world leader in the category up to 110 seats. It manufactures the Phaenon, Legacy jets, the E-190 family, the A-29 (military turboprop) and other beautiful and efficient planes. The K(King)C-390 is anything but a surprise when it comes to efficiency and performance. So much so that Boeing wanted to buy Embraer before the pandemic.

@Parsha Venkata Shiva sai why offend the person

@Parsha Venkata Shiva sai I understand, and I agree with what you've done, we need more people like that.

Yeah, we may be a bit biased to speak about the theme 😂

And exactly how much battle field experience does this aircraft have? This is where the winners and losers are determined, not on the spec sheets. I have flown Embraer products, in commercial operations, paved runway to paved runway, their is always some kind of digital glitch with these modern wonders. I can only imagine the problems this aircraft is going to experience operating in and out of unimproved air strips in the sand and dust, day in and day out. Once they do this, and prove they are worthy of a superior title, I’m all on board.

@@ronpayne4505 I guess you won't have to wait too long. The aircraft sales are picking up, and soon enough the C-130 will take its place in the history books.

@@ronpayne4505 o Brasil já operou o kc 390 em pista de terra e barro, se eu não me engano no nordeste brasileiro é e sim muito superior ao 130 e não há discussão, o kc 390 já foi projetado especificamente para poder operar em pistas não pavimentadas barro, asfalta em péssimas condições dentre outros, não fale mal de algo que vc não conhece.

hater @@ronpayne4505

@@veigafer That won't be in our lifetime because they're dwarfed by current sales of C-130J's.

If the C-130J-30 was the comparison. It would be a different story with 8 pallets or 128 combat troops, or 92 paratroopers.

They both have there advantages

They both have advantages, thr bigger one is not realized is the Lockheed C130 series of aircraft even the J have a massive common part compatability. The huge amount of C130s in operation and numbers built over the last 60 years means it's cheaper and a well proven aircraft.

@@Relics_tv No... it only means US has a very strong geopolitical power. The advantages of turboprop over turbofan engines, are the lower operation costs and resilience... but in this case the 390 actually has a lower acquisition/operational cost, needs less maintenances, while still boasting higher altitudes and flight speed as well as a hevier payload... Turbofans used to be very thirsty but they've became much more efficient nowdays.

@@GabrielVitor-kq6uj you're not wrong about that. The mission roles though are different which this video doesn't talk about. The C130J and the J-30 veriants are 'tactical' airlifters. Go into war zones and maneuver to deliver a payload. High altitude or lower. The KC-390 is more of a general airlifter like the C17 just smaller

@@Relics_tv KC-390 is literally described as a medium-weight multi-role tactical transporter, not just and general airlifter... never seem any specialist telling otherwise, the capabillities the Super Hercules has, the Millenium also haves, except the fact that the Hercules can launch some precision ammunition, which I don't clearly understand the relevancy as the transporter will be always scolted in battlegrounds. But yes, it does have a handful of combat features the 390 lacks.

I agree with you. Replacing the 500 C130 in operations with the KC390 will save $12,500 million dollars compared to new versions of C130 and the KC390 is way better plane than the C130.

O kc390 usa motores dos Airbus a320,com certeza o custo manutenção dele é bem baixo

The maintenance of the C 390 is lower. In addition to being 2 against 4 engines, they are standard civil use engines. I think they are the ones used on the Airbus A 320.

However the Herc is cheaper to operate. It burns a lot less fuel per mile flown compared to the the KC390. The engines are also cheaper to maintain. Turboprops will always be cheaper to operate and maintain compared to a turbofan engine. These costs will offset the higher price tag of the Herc. But in military terms I would also pick the KC390, not for its price tag but for its superior capabilities.

@@Robert66734 Well... turboprops are cheaper to operate than jets, but you need to consider the cost of things you can't do, or spend more time to do, between both aircrafts. Look to civil airports. What do you see? More jets or turboprops? Jets had more economical viability than TP. Had more cost? Yes! But can do much more and that make jets the logical choice.

esses critérios são muito importantes

...e começa logo com o custo dos aviões, o KC-390 é superior em todos os aspectos e custa 50 milhões contra os 75 milhões do C-130... com 150 milhões compra-se 2 C-130 ou 3 KC's.

Tabralho de mierda. Comparaciones incorectas tomando en cuenta que la mayoria de los 130J son el modelo J-30 y cuesta menos (gracias a los grandes numeros de venta para la USAF).

No futuro a manutenção será só elétrica vão precisar de eletricistas e técnicos em eletrônica

negativo tio, ac130 é um avião antigo ja estabelecido no mercado, apesar de amar o kc390, o 130 ainda tem suas vantagens, o mercado não funciona dessa sua forma ai.

of course, new technologies always replace old ones !

@@Edsoncamargos sometimes not. Sometimes new technologies brings... new problems that need long time to be solved (and new costs). But I agree that there's always place to improve. As an example, the need to replace the A-10 on Afghanistan. The solution was to use the A-29 that is a relative "old" technology (propeller aircraft used for ground attack missions). I'm not saying about the sensors and displays, but the platform itself.

The C-130 never had a PT-6 engine. That engine is used on much smaller aircraft.

I think that you are mistaken. I believe that it is a fair comparison since the C-130 is the plane that the KC390 was designed to replace. The Lockheed Martin C-130J Super Hercules and the Airbus A400M Atlas are today's direct competitors to the Embraer C390 Millennium. In fact, there are several countries that are making this exact comparison. India is, at this very moment, evaluating the C390 in comparison with the C-130J and the A400M. The C390 has recently won the competition with these two planes in Saudi Arabia and South Korea. The C-130J is a very recent plane that was completely modernized to compete in today's market. It now has sophisticated avionics and they even replaced the aging 1970's Allison T56-A-15 turboprop engine with a more modern engine. It now has the very capable Rolls-Royce AE2100D3 turboprop engine. It continues to this day to be manufactured by the largest military contractor in the world. If nothing else, the political cloud that Lockheed Martin has is not to be underestimated. It won't matter, though! The Embraer C390 Millennium is such a good plane that no one can beat it. Only political dealings under-the-table can stop the C390 from being selected as the de-facto successor to the legendary C-130.

@@Edsoncamargos You are so right, so correct, so absolutely the smartest person in the world, except for a couple of fatal flaws, soon to be three fatal flaws. The B-52 bomber, the F-15 fighter jet and the C-130 cargo transport. What you see is that soon the B-52 will be 100 years old. It will have a pilot who's father flew this bomber and even a grandfather who flew this beast. Sometimes the new doesn't replace the old. Many newer aircraft have already been retired, but the old keep on keeping on. On the positive side, a lot of new technology has been employed in these 'old' aircraft.

Same with the herc

@@the1juan2 The point is that jet cargos usually don't. They are more capable, as the 390, but they usually can't. Not at the difficulty level the 390 does, at least.

Mission requirements should be be addressed.

Yea, they miss that critical info, I bet the Hercules can takeoff and land in shorter distances...if the Hercules covers all the bases and needs for the US military now, why change it....

@@iridium58 the kc 390 is designed to take off and land on short runways. and design of the Kc390 for use in the Amazon rainforest with small and poorly structured airports

Well, considering that the whole point of the KC-390's design was do EVERYTHING the C-130 does, but in a better way, that information would be pointless. The KC-390 was designed and built to be a better C-130

And also, it has just two of them, not four, like the Hercules

Good one.

@@joaoborges1006 thanks bro😍

but portugal buy 5 for 800 millions, 60x5 isnt 800

Vou te responder em português, Portugal comprou fora os kc 390 foi o treinamento das equipes de operação do avião e as peças de reposição fora que o contrato prevê a abertura de uma filial da Embraer para a manutenção em solo português

@@leonardofelberg7113 do you know english ??????

@Curupira Sempre tem um vira latas Brasileiro, típico.

@Curupira Kkkk, mas devia torcer mais com nosso avião, poxa, os Americanos babando e você denegrindo, boa noite.

@Curupira Kkk, eu imaginei, ganhou até um coração do canal kkkkk, mudei meu conceito com você kkkk.

Adoro o KC e é a aeronave de escolha para o tipo de missoes portuguesas mas a falta de capacidade para aterrar em pistas rurais ou improvisadas n deixa de ser uma preocupação

@@silasramosCCB ele é o Fábio C

It isn't shorter than c130

@@Matheus-hm9kb maybe he means take off and landing, the KC needs much less runway.

O KC-390 Millenium não é menor, é apenas o ângulo da foto que deu essa impressão.

Não! Os irmãos Wright voaram antes, em 1903, com bom controle do avião. Eu também gostaria que fossemos nós os pioneiros. S. Dumont foi também um pesquisador e construtor de "mais pesado do que o ar",.................mas não voou primeiro e quando voou, em 1906, foi um voo de galinha...

@@teleintel FOI UM BRASIL BRASILEIRO SIMM!!! NINGUÉM NUNCAAA VIU OS IRMÃOS NORTE AMERICANOSS VOAR!!!!! O BRASILEIRO VIRAM!!!! 🇧🇷🇧🇷👍

@@teleintel com catapulta ate merda voa

@@synfith2493 A catapulta somente substitui uma corrida na pista. Logo eles colocaram rodas e decolaram na corrida...

@@teleintel só uma meia dúzia de testemunhas e uma foto borrada. Santos voou na França em um espetáculo aberto e com mais de 2 mil testemunhas. Quer mais? O 14 Bis não precisou de trilhos ou de uma colina como o modelo do Wright, ele voou direto do chão com um motor. Além do fato do primeiro avião a ser comercializado foi o Deimoselle um projeto do nosso brasileiro! O criador do avião é Santos Dumont! E o que você chama de voo de galinha foi mais duradouro e mais alto do que a catapulta dos Wright

O Brasil não tem a diplomacia e o poder dos EUA. O KC-390 e superior em todos os aspectos incluindo custos. Se o KC-390 fosse americano já teria sido vendido ao mundo todo!

Probably mostly politics.

@@Pixelarter Yes often they will go for a supplier based on allegiances and interoperation abilities. In every way the Embraer beats the c130J.

because of the lobbyists

Politics!

E mais barato também

Era só deixar a cachaça e a vagabundagem de lado e estudar mais

good analysis about it

no aspecto do lobby comercial, aquele acordo que foi cancelado entre embraer e boeing, ajudaria muito na venda do aviao brasileiro inclusive nos mesmos eeuu

@@sepoloravla2273 Com certeza!

@@sepoloravla2273 e nos vender? Levariamos o nome de USA não Brasil. Gosto assim: EMPRESA BRASILEIRA

@@dolydoly5679 tambem gosto mas fatos sao fatos. o acordo com a boeing nao anularia a participaçao da embraer na nova empresa. eu so tenho a dizer-lhe que torça para que a embraer encontre uma alternativa ao crescente avanço da airbus em seu principal nicho, o de aeonaves regionais, pois seus antigos clientes a estao trocando pela europeia. embraer é um anao comparado a airbus e um acordo bem alinhavado com a boeing poderia blinda-la do forte poder do lobby da airbus junto as companhias aereas

​@@sepoloravla2273 Esse acordo acabaria como a Ford com a Troller, a boeing ia sugar as tecnologias que lhe interessassem, iria levar os melhores engenheiros e centros de pesquisa para os EUA e logo logo a EMBRAER iria definhar ou virar mera montadora (sem nenhum desenvolvimento de tecnologia ou pesquisa) isso se não fosse extinta.

Yes, really. But is the same thing to compare oranges and apples.

Two generations of aircraft* (plural same as singular) / technologically* newer (a given being sixty years younger)

The KC390 is capable of taking off from a 600 meter runway

that can be offset with rocket boosters, like ina C130J, can it not?

Just a little correction, Holand 5 units and India isn't settled yet ... but the rest is absolutely right my sir

Dutch*

@@Matheus-hm9kb Thank you sir

Sério? Sou de RO tb, queria mt poder ter visto ;/

Moro em Santa Maria segunda cidade que mais tem quartéis no Brasil e primeira cidade do país com maior número de blindados, então acredito que logo vou avistar um Kc 390 no céu da minha cidade 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷...

But they have to buy from America.

The KC-390 will never match the C-130 on longevity of production and service. In 32 years the C-130 will reach the 100 year anniversary of its first flight and it will still be flying missions all over the world. The KC-390 will never see 100 years of active service flying.

@@AlaskaErik 1922?????

@@chii8900 C-130 first flight was in 1954. In 32 years (2054), the C-130 will celebrate 100 years of flight.

@@AlaskaErik There are "only" 3 decades left for the C 130 to complete 100 years. I'm sure these 3 decades are nothing and it will pass very quickly.

A400m is a much larger aircraft to these 2,not in any way a comparison