'Comparisons with Garry Sobers' | Jacques Kallis part 1 | Modern Masters

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10 жыл бұрын

Rahul Dravid and Sanjay Manjrekar are back! Next up on their list of the 14 greatest modern batsmen: Jacques Kallis. They start by discussing his 'typcial South African' batting technique.
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@faeqnaveed3098
@faeqnaveed3098 4 жыл бұрын
Nobody can break kallis record. Virat kohli is very close to beating Sachin's record of 100 international hundreds. But I don't think anyone can get close to kallis. He has 13k plus test runs. And almost 300 wickets, with more than 100 catches. This record is unthinkable & remarkably unbelievable.
@senthilvel4747
@senthilvel4747 3 жыл бұрын
He never closed 33K
@warrenbooysen
@warrenbooysen 3 жыл бұрын
Kallis v sobers is no contest. All other all rounders (botham, Dev, Kahn, stokes,etc) batted at 5 through 8. Sobers one third of his tests at 4 and the rest at 5,6 or even 7. Lots of not outs on those slots. Kallis batted at three and four. That’s it. A batters batter. Where Sachin, Lara and Ponting bat and averaged better than all 3 of them. Take away Sobers one knock of 350 odd not not and he dips to 54. Also half of Kallis’s innings were in SA. Which is renowned as the hardest place to bat. Everyone who bats in SA averages 10 lower than anywhere else. Yet he averages 55. In a premium batting slot. From 1999 to 2013. His average was 62. That’s Steven smith averages for 14 years. His batting is in another league. Bowled 20 overs per test vs sobers 43. And by default therefore could’ve reached 500 wickets had they tossed him the ball more. Just because the likes of Steyn, Donald, Pollock. philander, Morkel bowled ahead of him made it hard to get a slot. So was always a first or second change bowler. Bowled 145 to 150 k on a well rested day. When not recovering from his batting There’s just no other way to put it. Greatest cricketer the world has ever seen. Indeed all rounder. Ofcourse there were better batters and bowlers. And yes bradmans feats with the bat outweigh even Kallis. But cricketer implies bowling, batting and fielding. So he is no doubt the greatest “cricketer” ever. 25000 runs 550 plus wickets 330 catches if you add ODI’s Trust me anyone reading this .... your grandchildren won’t ever see that record broken. Just like we won’t see Bradmans record broken. King Kallis is an apt name
@geographyhistorygeopolitic3851
@geographyhistorygeopolitic3851 2 жыл бұрын
Your taking things out of context, Sobers bowled 43 over per test because his job in the bowling lineup was containment, not to take wickets. Something stats won't tell you. 1. If it wasn't for Bradman, Sobers would be universally recognised as the best batsman of all-time - power, grace, timing, touch, flamboyance, technique - he was the Pele of batsman - Richards, Gavaskar, Lara, Tendulkar, Miandad - roll them all into one batsman and that was Sobers 2. He was the most electrifying fielder of all time with the marginal exception of the young Clive Lloyd 3. The only man ever to bowl competitively in all 3 categories of fast, medium, and slow. 4. Sobers was like a real-life fantasy figure to players and spectators alike - on the field he was like a Usain Bolt routinely doing the utterly incredible with a ridiculous degree of grace, charisma, and effortless ease - off the field he was the envy of movie stars, hobnobbing with kings and PMS, partying with the rich and famous, driving fast cars, charming the ladies and generally wowing the masses. 5. Kallis is an honest workman, Sobers was a god amongst mortals - there is no comparison. Also, another reason why I think Kallis is an overrated batsman is simply that he batted far too slowly, a strike rate of just 38, compared to Sachin's 56, Punter's 59, and Lara striking at over 60. This article gives great insight: www.espncricinfo.com/story/stats-analysis-garry-sobers-an-allrounder-like-no-other-491636
@maulikmadhavi
@maulikmadhavi 3 жыл бұрын
Kallis was awarded Sir Garfield Sobers Trophy in 2005. However, Kallis has the better stats
@Pablo22578
@Pablo22578 10 жыл бұрын
Mr Manjreker - Sir, Jaques Kallis not powerful ? I cannot believe you said that, he was immensely powerful, watch any of his text book cover drives - hugely powerful. sorry sir, I think you missed one of the best careers in cricket as it seems you did not watch much of him. Pity
@sanju0601
@sanju0601 9 жыл бұрын
Well, I am huge fan of Kallis. In that case I m agree with Manjreker. Cause if he was wrong then Rahul would argue that. In Kallis early carrier he was a monster and hard hitter batsman with high bat lift which gave him massive power to hit huge sixes , There is some old video on youtube that you can find with high bat lift of Kallis hitting big six. And then he changed his batting style to low bat lift because of responsibility he was giving as a south african back bone to play under pressure as a defensive batsman to sail south africa to the victory from very tough times. If you have low bat lift then your chances of getting out is a lot less and it's very safe. That's why his average in Text format is awesome. But on the other end if you are defensive batsman then you are not going to make a lots of centuries in ODI format. That's why he has only 18 centuries even tho he use to come number 3 down. Rahul is right about that question.
@raman287
@raman287 7 жыл бұрын
Sanjeev Stephen well said my brother. I am also an hard core kallis fan and by the way he only made 17 odi hundreds.
@chandankumar-tm1bx
@chandankumar-tm1bx 6 жыл бұрын
kallis is ahead of all players
@espncricinfo
@espncricinfo 10 жыл бұрын
So Jacques Kallis is the second Modern Master! Stay tuned as we'll be releasing a new part every week! Find out what made Kallis one of the greatest South African players ever.
@gurkiratsinghgill2031
@gurkiratsinghgill2031 6 жыл бұрын
ESPNcricinfo Where are the other videos?
@tanujarora3000
@tanujarora3000 Жыл бұрын
WHERE are the other videos???? Please post full videos of other batsmen..
@duttakunal82
@duttakunal82 3 жыл бұрын
No comparison. How can you compare 5-6 cricketers with 2? I mean Kallis = batsman+fast/medium bowler, but Sobers = opening batsman + middle order batsman + opening pace bowler (seam+swing) + left arm orthodox + chinaman/googly + slip catcher + amazing outfielder. Not to forget, exciting captaincy as well. Seriously, the only people who can think of comparing are millennials who are hearing about Sir Gary for the first time.
@shubhamlele5395
@shubhamlele5395 3 жыл бұрын
The only people who don't give kallis a chance are old men on they deathbed as they are prisoners of the past
@piysuhyadav3108
@piysuhyadav3108 6 жыл бұрын
Greatness of cricketer should not be defined by number of runs or centuries one scored but by the number of match winning innings he played or innings played in hard times . Maybe number of Man of the Match one got can be a good criteria for calling someone great . Kallis (23) is leading all other greats even Tendulkar ( 200 matches - 14 Mom) with 64 % more MoM despite of Africa being a great batting unit. This shows the contribution of this player to S. Africa and that's what all matters.
@Billie0708
@Billie0708 4 жыл бұрын
Kallis won most man of the match because he is an all rounder
@vipulchaudhari9014
@vipulchaudhari9014 4 жыл бұрын
Ha to sale dekh ja k stats he has most number of man of the match in test cricket
@geraldmoodley6808
@geraldmoodley6808 2 жыл бұрын
the greatest ever
@ashrafulstudent2789
@ashrafulstudent2789 4 жыл бұрын
I really upset about MR manjerker l think he dosent know about jaque kalis
@amithsubramanian1549
@amithsubramanian1549 3 жыл бұрын
He is faffing around as usual.
@jagrajgill6918
@jagrajgill6918 3 жыл бұрын
kallis is GOAT in true manners
@premakumarwooday7696
@premakumarwooday7696 Ай бұрын
I have watched both Gary Sobers and Jack Kallis. In my opinion Gary Sobers was a greater entertainer. To watch Sobers play is a thrill.
@jlg5967
@jlg5967 6 жыл бұрын
Kallis vs minnows(Zim,Bang,WI):36 tests,3352 runs @ 83.80,90 wickets @ 23.46.Vs Rest 130 tests, 9937 runs @ 49.69,202 wickets @ 36.75.Sobers only minnow opponent was NZ(India was borderline) and he hardly bothered when he played against them.Take out his 12 miserable tests against NZ and his record reads,81 tests,7628 runs @ 62.52,216 wickets @ 33.88.Sobers performed better against tougher opponents.
@Billie0708
@Billie0708 4 жыл бұрын
@@Arjun-ej7fj kallis was boring and not a charismatic Match winner like sobers
@arshupadhyaya
@arshupadhyaya 3 жыл бұрын
@@Billie0708 Dravid was far more boring
@arshupadhyaya
@arshupadhyaya 3 жыл бұрын
@@Billie0708 also kallis has 23 MOM awards that is more than anyone in the history even Tendulkar who played 34 more matches
@shubhamlele5395
@shubhamlele5395 3 жыл бұрын
Funny you say that Kallis does not only have the highest man of the match awards,he also has the highest mom/test ratio amongst those with more than 5. Come back after actually watching cricket
@yashrungta8742
@yashrungta8742 2 жыл бұрын
@@shubhamlele5395 If there MOM at Sobers time, he would have an even better ratio of MOM to matches than Kallis
@anilkumarjaiswal512
@anilkumarjaiswal512 27 күн бұрын
King kallis Complete Cricketer
@g-seriessongs7686
@g-seriessongs7686 3 жыл бұрын
King kallis was fast bowler but sobers was spinner..whicb is big difference.
@chandankumarrahul8978
@chandankumarrahul8978 20 күн бұрын
Kallis phenomenal player sobers 2nd best
@jlg5967
@jlg5967 6 жыл бұрын
Ken Barrington had a superior batting average than Sobers but everyone regarded Sobers as a more dangerous batsman.Kallis is similar batsman to Barrington,hard to get out but doesn't hurt you.Also,batting in the 50's to the early 70's was tougher than Kallis' era,Sobers would've averaged 65 in the modern era.Sobers wins.
@kaydaj1
@kaydaj1 5 жыл бұрын
Kallis was an out and out fast bowler. A genuine wicket taker. And he stood in the slips almost all the time for those bucketloads. Never seen him drop one. Add to that the fact that he’s one of the greatest ever with the bat and Kallis wins hands down. It’s not even close
@pallabbiswas947
@pallabbiswas947 4 жыл бұрын
Then if Kallis would have bowled in Sober's time he would have age under 25!
@agnelo000
@agnelo000 3 жыл бұрын
Sobers era batsman did not have fitness or analysis through video..batsman nowadays analyse bowler. Fielders were not athletic so.it was easier for Sobers to score
@shubhamlele5395
@shubhamlele5395 3 жыл бұрын
@@agnelo000 I agree
@peace2u947
@peace2u947 3 жыл бұрын
How many world cups did kallis win zero. Stats don't tell the full story. The fact he flew under the radar for so long shows he wasnt a match winner. Sobers is easily the best a match winner in the truest sense. Kallis is not even close to sobers. Sobers then Imran Khan second.
@shubhamlele5395
@shubhamlele5395 3 жыл бұрын
How many World cups did kapil dev,imran khan win? 1. Andrew Symonds has 2. I guess Symonds is better than both of them. Not to forget also better than Hadlee,Botham,stokes and all rounders like them who 1 or none. Symonds greatest allrounder of all time.
@peace2u947
@peace2u947 3 жыл бұрын
@@shubhamlele5395 Symonds is an athlete who did deliver the goods in some big clutch moments and matches. Kallis was ponderous and in no ways did he progress matches beyond the status quo. Fascination with individual stats that do not encompass the team are just delusional. Cricket seems to be fixated with individual stats. Michael Jordan won 6 NBA championships. He wanted the team to win. He brought an x factor. Where were Kallis victories in world cups or taking the game away from very strong australian squads that brought his team to world dominance? Kallis was a plodder and not a winner. i would rather Imran Khan or sobers in my team any day of the week! Sobers Khan then Ben stokes, what he did in the 2019 world cup final was remarkable. Hope Ben gets well soon too.
@shubhamlele5395
@shubhamlele5395 3 жыл бұрын
@@peace2u947 biased as fuck. Haven't heard a more filthier opinion. iN nO WaYs DiD He PrOgReSs MatChEs and yet Kallis has the highest number of man of match awards. More than Imran Khan ,Stokes and Sobers put together. And you can take that,to the fucking bank.
@peace2u947
@peace2u947 3 жыл бұрын
@@shubhamlele5395 lol, I think Kallis was one of the most boring players to watch. he was all technique very little flair. Sobers, Khan, Stokes any day of the week.
@shubhamlele5395
@shubhamlele5395 3 жыл бұрын
@@peace2u947 Dravid was boring to watch but Glen Maxwell isn't I guess Dravid
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