Very much like the ‘expert’ diver in the Bulley case.

Yep..

Brad Lucy Jay and 2 men were all at the B&B

Also they booked it in a different name

MWT Was the Detective who, Along with his Colleagues from the Met Police Force was called in to investigate the disappearance of Maddie McCann and he then left the Force to become a Private Investigator. The Sun and other Newspapers have made Mark Williams-Thomas look incompetent BUT MWT is the complete opposite! He served the British Police force and Public well in his long and distinguished Career without so much as a single blemish to his name. You don’t see any reward being offered for this young Lad as they did with Sarah Payne, Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman, Sarah Harper, Caroline Hog, Susan Maxwell, Millie Dowler to name but a few. That said I still believe that foul play was the reason this young Lad was Murdered and I will NEVER sway away from my belief. Unless someone steps in to temporarily halt Jays Funeral from going ahead then This time on Sunday Jays remains will be nothing more than Ashes and any physical evidence missed will be lost forever! 🥹 Exactly what a certain close Relative of Jay.wanted. From the moment Jays remains were released by the Coroner. Many people who are buried still have the chance that by exhuming him/her they WILL have Justice where as as soon as Jays remains were released by the British Coroner his Mum went to the undertaker to make fast tracked funeral Arrangements. The Slater Family should at least asked the Lancashire Police to reopen Jays Disappearance and to have asked the Preston Coroner to order a Consultant Pathologist to carry out the less evasive postmortem in a CT Scanner that the Consultant pathologist and Coroner would have looked at stills from every part of Jays remains so that nothing that was missed in the evasive postmortem can be missed in the CT Postmortem. If Jays Funeral does go ahead he will be walking this Earth as a lost soul in limbo because a mass of physical evidence was missed (Jay being stabbed on the Beach in L.As😮) That is what happened and not an Accident or a fall from height!!

Poor reporting, Lucy told police her friend is lost in the hills and she is concerned for him.

Exactly! Thats what I thought, it's not normal, she must have been very afraid of something to report it that quick

wtf even is that question

hes not in tesco ate hes lost in the widlerness wth no water phone and is lost but u stil lreprot them missig there no option for lost u sessile

This subject is way above your IQ my dude, Explaining speech marks to you would be a waste of my time

Exactly! x

I was brought up knowing right from wrong

​@@stephencurran2568 Most of us were but drugs weren't around as much as they are now, they don't think or wory about behaving properly when high on drugs, it can happen to anyones kids no matter how well behaved they usually are

not all, mainly white

@@hassyg4083sure. Sure.

Yep.. I do too!!!

100% drugs involved and rolex stole and money he owned.... its more than sure

@@user-kf3yz7so6q +++++

Plus the sun would been coming up so he wasn’t walking in the dark to get back to we’re he was going…?

It makes sense if he stole a watch and wanted to get off the main road and avoid detection.

no it was an acident all evidence leads to that u baby

@@MPezant1215 boo hoo baby me I really am you doughnut 😂🤣

I agree..I think there’s definitely foul play and as a mum I would want more questions answered

@@loubie1205why do people keep saying foul play that sounds daft

@@chrisgill8023literally.. the search team have said there would have been no way for him to get back to the road. so how would they carry a body through all the vegetation, drop it there and then climb back up. people want this to be a Breaking Bad scenario so bad. him wanting to walk to the beach to then walk back and fall while trying to do so makes so much more sense. the search team had to airlift him and use rope access for themselves .

To see what was on the other side?

They were all up there on a friendly walk and he was pushed

Yeah. But, most mothers wouldn't exploit their kids death for cash, via GoFundMe.

Tbf, I got stuck out for the night on Mt Teide, a few miles inland from here, same time of year. It was above cloud level, but I had frost on my sleeping bag, then as soon as the sun rose, Bang, 80 degrees and rising. I got sunstroke and was ill for a week.

Celsius, not Fahrenheit. It's not America.

Exactly!!

I think it was because she got a troll text message

If you listen to her interview, her main concern is how bothersome the social media has been for her, because they sent her information, opened facebook sites and didnt let her be alone. Police also complained about people sending them information, because it hindered their search for Jay. Would not surprise me if it all is a propaganda to make people go along with censure social media.

@@Varynna Yes either way I feel sorry for her and her losing a child. The whole situation is sad.

He didn't climb, though. He left the B&B, which is already located at a 650 m height, and walked the main road uphill. The spot where he went off road is at a 740 height. After leaving the main road he started to go downhill through a trail (Barranco de Juan López) and at some point he probably fell to his death in some gorge. He never needed to climb.

@@georgezee5173 Sky news are now putting his last phone ping 1.5km NE of b&b, away from the sea, in the 'Parque Rural de Teno'....WTF is that about???

And why was he seen in Santiago de Teide with a Police officer?? ​@@-Gumbo

​@@georgezee5173He climbed up a ridge and dropped 200 ft.

DID THY SAY IN THE POST MORTEM IF HE HAD NARCOTICS PREASANT IF HE HAD WATER HE WOULD OF BEEN ABLE TO THINK BETTER AND MAKEE A BETTER DECISION. BUT VERY SADLY IY WASNT THE CASE..SO SORRY YOU LOST YOUR LIFE THIS WAY. SLEEP TIGHT JAY.🙏🏽🌻

No search

I’m confused. Don’t people go missing everyday?

Yes. I agree. With your mates. Stay with them. You on holiday with your mates. Keep together and look out for each other

The 2 men were Lucy’s friends

@@katrinaevans7872 she could have arranged to pick him up.

aint strangers they know him

​@@katrinaevans7872They were all at the Air b&b

There is a "found this on showreel" vid yesterday of jay bopping in NRG full stare filming of him. He has a nice watch on his right arm he stops dancing. Steps back as staring into person filming. Unsteady on his feet. Looks poorly

Possibly out of his head on drugs and Booze.

​@@user-kf3yz7so6qoh yeah totally plausible that.

Delirious due to sunstroke and dehydration. Not rocket science.

Might be running away from someone

@@user-kf3yz7so6qwe know from 3 witnesses he was on his own when he left the air b&b

Yeah it was 8am it was an exposed mountain up high, it would be unlikely to get hot until midday

They're making sure we wont

Yup, it's a little known fact that you never end up at the bottom of a cliff if you slip and fall, only if you get thrown there after having upset someone. Thank heavens you are now on the case Sherlock...

👀👀 most men used to wear heals and makeup everyday …still do in some cultures..

this man is dead and this is the first thing you want to add. get your head out of your ass mate

stash

They all wear them abroad and not all for night clubs just fashion and to keep their stuff safe .

Man bags bruv, keep all your essentials innit.

Oh no, Julie doesn't believe it, and she's on youtube. What on Earth are the Spanish forensic investigators, who are in possession of all the facts, going to do now!?

There was a cafe next to the airbnb... if he was thirsty & hungry & needed a charger & a place to wait for a bus he would have had a place to wait there... clearly went off road to escape from the guys.. last place phone pinged was next to a building.. the guys called Lucy & Brad asking where he was & his location... evidently wanted to find him..

@@liliaaaaaaaaspot on

@@liliaaaaaaaasounds like he maybe did steal something from the two men then🤔

@@liliaaaaaaaa That café doesn't open until 10 am.

@@liliaaaaaaaayep literally a 10 fifteen minute walk, you could see the cafe from around the corner from the Airbnb, cars up and down that road from early morning but not one person other than the owner and the 2 guests saw Jay! Money silences in Spain, I know, l lived there, deeply corrupt!

Thought fingers prints are useless 4 days after death? Strange!

​@@kthomp5onsince you're an expert why dont you become a forensic investigator? You might as well init.

There is a photo of the 2 BnB guys and another lad grinning at the side of the road nearby a day later. One has a hood up, they other his eyes closed, the other is smoking. Conspiracy theorists have speculated 'Speak No Evil' etc.

🙉

🙈

maybe he wasn't even "thrown there later".

@@Varynna Nobody knows for sure i guess..

Wait a minute here!! What about the txt message his mum got saying she would never see her son again… what’s that all about then? That wasn’t a conspiracy, was it?

Trolls are horrible but most people are not trolls most people genuinly care and want the truth as they don't believe this rubbish, if something dodgy happened then those people should not get away with it, how many more times will it happen, many people have went missing in that area over the years

This guy was a criminal

@@juliemaddern Here here🌸

He sent his location to more than one person, so knew exactly where he was.

What’s the potter connection?

@@chrisgill8023 He was the other guy in the BnB but the media keep leaving him out of the picture

Ummm! I very much doubt it.

The body was located in what looks like a narrow gorge. In those spots there's not much "hot Spanish sun" casting its light on them throuhgout the day. Ontop of that, maximum temperatures in Masca have been of only 22-23 degrees for the past month.

@@georgezee5173 you might have a point there.

Fingerprints have been found on mummies after thousands of years.

@@christopherrobinson7541 yeah because they were embalmed Jay wasn’t he was exposed to the elements

He was not running they were all there on an Adventure thinking he could trust Lucy and Brad but they pushed him

They all got the same cards as well

And from family he exposed criminality first

Oh no. Did the Spanish police forget to alert you to their every move again?

@@ChockHolocaust Yes

Both have done years in jail for County Lines class A's.

Their background matches or at least one does

One of them said he was alive when he left. Odd words.

​@tourdidnt Jay and his friends unalived someone iel8943

@@lizlaborde9335 If you mean the guy they hit with a machete etc, he survived

God isn't real.

You mentioned god 7 times chill out

Where they found him its like a big hole only go there special climbers and when you fall you get covered by rocks sand imside the big bushes hard to see men but i think they trowing him in there he was murdered sorry my english

​​@@theboss9218odd that search dogs didn't pick up the scent to the ravine the first time.

1) A lot of the plants in this area have a very strong smell and the winds are strong, the scent would be masked and blown away. 2) At best triangulation with 3 masks gives a position within 500m, which is an area of 750,000 m^2. With poor coverage this could be 2,500,000 m^2. With steep terrain , the actual area to be covered could be grater than 5M m^2. 3) With regards to fingerprints, there are two possibilities. The fingerprints were previously taken with regards to another matter and were on record. Or prints were taken that were known to be his prints, collected at his home or in the hotel where he was staying. This would be standard police practice. Some countries require fingerprint identification for entry, these data are recorded on the smart passports and this requirement is being expanded in Europe. This is an extension to the photo ID.

@@christopherrobinson7541 yes that’s good point about the plants and winds. I meant would his actual fingerprints still be distinguishable? Would his body not have decomposed or would the dry heat have helped to preserve the body?

@@markdraycott3974 Fingerprints have been found on mummies after thousands of years. The preservation depends on the conditions where the body was found. Complete prints are not necessary, just fragments would be enough to match with known prints.

@christopherrobinson7541 Good grief Christopher "Mummies" ??😂 You do know why they're called that don't you?

@@muddydog6605 Tell us.

we will never know

@@ChocHaterthat’s what I think The set him up Took him up there and then took the watch

yeah it feels like foul play

I think they found him on Sunday.. because I watched something late Sunday saying there is an announcement tomorrow about jay., an update. And then it the morning they announced they found a body.

Really!

Having lived there, I doubt he would of been alive after a fall like that.

Evidence? 😂

@@Commonsense1875 the voices said so.

@@angelsandspirits-h2y seek help :(

@@bobv2301 I would guess maybe 2.5 hours!!

They found the phone now. But could not trace it in the first place? Who is investigating this? Cavemen?

So, what? So it's going on Ebay? Screen might be cracked from that fall, but could be a bargain.

Oh sorry I bet you don’t even have a job never mind the qualifications to know that

You know everything cleary

Probably to get high and drunk