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Completing the Case - Rounded and Backed Cased Book // Adventures in Bookbinding

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DAS Bookbinding

DAS Bookbinding

Күн бұрын

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@NealM07
@NealM07 Жыл бұрын
Another great video... So pleased that you kept the little mishap in, and more importantly, your thoughts on the possible causes for it.... We can learn so much more when problems arise, than when we simply still through a project without any issues... Looking forward to the final part of this interesting "mini-series"
@maartenhappel9014
@maartenhappel9014 Жыл бұрын
once again, great work! Love seeing all come together. You vids are a big help to me as a starting bookbinder! Thnx!!
@Admiral86Untidy
@Admiral86Untidy Жыл бұрын
i love making books and all but i love these videos and the time i get to spend here learning from DAS even more.
@bookbinding
@bookbinding Жыл бұрын
My source of inspiration.
@Ninjadoc2000
@Ninjadoc2000 Жыл бұрын
Indeed! Just finished sewing some headbands here, so happy he started making videos again! 🐄🛸
@jeno264
@jeno264 Жыл бұрын
I love the sound of the sped-up gluing! 😀
@SuperDolly64
@SuperDolly64 Жыл бұрын
So glad you're back doing videos!!!
@naturesketches126
@naturesketches126 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, this was very helpful! Looking forward to the next part.
@greengohm
@greengohm Жыл бұрын
Dry bindery may cause some problems, but something tells me you'd pick that over the opposite any day of week ;)
@johndaniel5368
@johndaniel5368 Жыл бұрын
Great stuff! I’m puzzled, though, why the decorative paper overlaps the cloth corners and spine, rather than being applied first on the whole boards. That way, the cloth would provide protection to the edges of the paper.
@naturesketches126
@naturesketches126 Жыл бұрын
Yes, i wondered about that too..
@TMS2224
@TMS2224 Жыл бұрын
Exposed paper edges are far less noticeable than exposed bookcloth edges. At least that’s my guess! It may just be a convention
@DASBookbinding
@DASBookbinding Жыл бұрын
I get this question often and it's hard to answer because most people decide it would be better and are thus sceptical of the answer. So, what you should do is give it a try. It's not much material and it's just the case. Sometimes it's hard to believe something without seeing or trying it for yourself. But, here's my answer. The paper is more robust than it is given credit. Once laminated to the boards it is fairly tough. On older books you do see it wearing on the overlap and sometimes it will have grabbed and ripped. But as I demonstrated it can be hard to get the cloth on just where you want it. It is easier to get nice straight edges to the paper exactly where you want them placing the board paper. And it can hide little mistakes. Now the historical part. I believe this style of binding was developed to save on leather. It would have originally be done on laced-on boards bindings, before case bindings were invented, and the edges of the leather on the boards would have been far from a straight line. Wet leather stretches all over the place and there might be raggedness from the paring. The edge of the leather is covered up by the board paper. I've got some good examples of 19th century books where some very sloppy work has been covered by the board paper. Might be a video on this:) So there is some historical influence, but in the end I think it is the easier and more logical order of operation which ends up looking the best.
@naturesketches126
@naturesketches126 Жыл бұрын
@@DASBookbinding Thank you for this detailed explanation. I took your advice and tried it myself. It worked out perfectly for me. My books are more square now and it does look neater. Thank you!
Жыл бұрын
love it!
@flatbrokefrank6482
@flatbrokefrank6482 Жыл бұрын
Inspirational !
@martinnyberg8174
@martinnyberg8174 10 ай бұрын
Have you (or some other authority😊) experimented with lining the back of the case under the spine stiffener and across the groove to enhance the strength of the part of the book most subjected to fatigue damage? 🤔
@matthewcienki8064
@matthewcienki8064 Жыл бұрын
The best and most professional way to "cut corners!" I love it! What type/brand of those metal scissors did you use?
@DASBookbinding
@DASBookbinding Жыл бұрын
I use 2 pairs at that bench. The chrome handled ones are some old scissors I got from a retired bookbinder. The black handled ones I bought from Ernest Wright. But I think they've stopped making bookbinders shears, which is a shame. www.ernestwright.co.uk
@Rincenso
@Rincenso Жыл бұрын
Should this video perhaps be added to the playlist "Rounded and Backed Cased Book"?
@DASBookbinding
@DASBookbinding Жыл бұрын
Done. Thanks.
@martinnyberg9295
@martinnyberg9295 Жыл бұрын
Would you use the same materials for boards and spine stiffener if you’d use leather instead of cloth for spine and corners? 🤔
@DASBookbinding
@DASBookbinding Жыл бұрын
Yes. This grey board is fine for half covering style in leather. Not the pull of a full leather binding.
@webdancer101
@webdancer101 3 ай бұрын
Wouldn't it be easier to put the paper on first and then the bool cloth? Is there a reason to do it in this order?
@DASBookbinding
@DASBookbinding 3 ай бұрын
No. You should give it a go to see why. It's the best way to convince yourself. Or maybe you discover a better way of doing it.
@webdancer101
@webdancer101 3 ай бұрын
@@DASBookbinding lol, I could do it and mess it up. Or, I could just listen to you, which I will. I was just curious.
@scribblesandknots
@scribblesandknots Жыл бұрын
Great video, as always! Thank you for detailing your thought process when things go wrong - that's always so helpful to see. I have a question - I had an issue with a case of this style where the paper was much thinner than the cloth and did not have a pattern, so it showed the line of the cloth very clearly through the paper. I had a number of other issues with that particular case, so I remade it and addressed the visible line issue by applying a separate, slightly thicker paper only under where the paper would touch the board, to fill in the height. This worked fairly well but made it slightly more difficult to apply the cover paper, as I was then worried about both papers wrinkling when I applied my glue. I'm wondering if there was a better solution I did not think of, or if you'd have a different way of addressing that issue.
@DASBookbinding
@DASBookbinding Жыл бұрын
Filling in is absolutely the solution to your problem. I usually fill in with a thin card which does not stretch much and easy to position. The main thing to do to stop wrinkles is to let the paper relax before applying. If it continues to "stretch" after applying, this is when you can get wrinkles. But a fully relaxed thin paper will have a strong pull that will need a draw sheet to counter on the inside. This is a good question. I might use it in the next Q&A video.
@scribblesandknots
@scribblesandknots Жыл бұрын
@@DASBookbinding Thank you! If I'm in that position in the future, I'll try using thin card instead of paper, that sounds like it would help a lot. I appreciate all of your educational content!
@user-le6il8tz9c
@user-le6il8tz9c Жыл бұрын
All this work might be done without any boring measurements - simply put book block between boards. Use light wooden press or suitable weight.
@DASBookbinding
@DASBookbinding Жыл бұрын
I'll stick to my approach I think.
@user-le6il8tz9c
@user-le6il8tz9c Жыл бұрын
​@@DASBookbinding Ok.
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