If I might use up rather a lot of your comments section with my attempt at deciphering Tuomas' exact scientific lyrics for this journey through the birth of this planet and the evolution of life therein, based on the Tampere version, but near enough. #1 "The Greatest Show On Earth" (Spoken parts are in quotations) [Part 1: Four Point Six] (4.6 billion years ago) Archaean horizon (part of the Precambrian period, in which there was no life on the earth. Earth's history is divided into four principal Eons: the Hadean, the Archean, Proterozoic, and the Phanerozoic. The Hadean is the Eon during which the Earth and Moon formed; in the Archaean, primordial life appeared. ) The first sunrise On a pristine gaea (Greek personification of the Earth as a goddess) Opus perfectum (the perfect work, the perfect creation, a masterpiece) Somewhere there, us sleeping (the DNA and carbon for life was in the space dust) "After sleeping through a hundred million centuries we have finally opened our eyes on a sumptuous planet, sparkling with colour, bountiful with life. Within decades we must close our eyes again. Isn't it a noble and enlightened way of spending our brief time in the sun, to work at understanding the universe and how we have come to wake up in it?" (Dawkins refers to the birth of the earth as a planet and mankind's brief geologic time on earth to understand how we came to be here at all) [Part 2: Life] The cosmic law of gravity Pulled the newborns around a fire (Planetary gravity aligning the solar system around the sun) A careless cold infinity in every vast direction (space) Lonely farer in the Goldilocks zone (The earth moving on its own in the exact place for life to thrive - mother bear’s porridge was just right for Goldilocks) She has a tale to tell From the stellar nursery into a carbon feast (the condensing big bang dust clouds form into planets and the earth; all life is carbon based) Enter LUCA (Last universal common ancestor - a simple life form that all life carries a genetic marker for, LUCA was not the first living organism but the sole survivor of previous types) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Last_universal_common_ancestor The tapestry of chemistry (The periodic table of the elements and combinations) There's a writing in the garden (DNA and the garden, earth) Leading us to the mother of all (the trail to our beginnings) We are one (having a common DNA marker and we are all made from the galactic space dust and condensing gas. All the material from the big bang is still here, state might have changed for some things, but it is here.) We are a universe (This is the natural conclusion to draw from the fact that life shares common origin, that all life is built with the same blocks, and that all life on Earth is interdependent (gaia hypothesis). The multiplicity of beings on Earth are one, just as the cells in a body are one. Lately it has been shown that we are indeed made of star dust material from the birth of our universe) Forebears of what will be Scions of the Devonian sea (419.2 to 358.9 million years ago from rocks found in Devon England, scion is a young shoot of a plant, the land grew plants and the multitude of fishes started to come ashore and walk on fins briefly) Aeons pass Writing the tale of us all (The DNA and evolution branching out into other forms) A day-to-day new opening (The continuity of evolution) For the greatest show on Earth (a poetic reference to life developing and evolving)
@572Btriode Жыл бұрын
#2 Ion channels welcoming the outside world (Google Ion channels, protein molecules that span across the cell membrane allowing the passage of ions from one side of the membrane to the other. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ion_channel ) To the stuff of stars (the original star dust everything came from and still is.) Bedding the tree of a biological holy (the start of the tree of life) Enter life The tapestry of chemistry There's a writing in the garden Leading us to the mother of all (The periodic table of elements does look like a sort of patchwork tapestry, but this can go further. The historical function of tapestries was as "nomadic murals," pictographical histories which moving people could pack up and revisit wherever they went. The "writing in the garden," in nature, is not only the stone murals left by dead animals in the form of fossils, but is also this chemical writing that encodes the relatively nomadic DNA molecule with the instructions for life. The scientific investigation of this information leads us back to LUCA) We are one We are a universe Forebears of what will be Scions of the Devonian sea Aeons pass Writing the tale of us all A day-to-day new opening For the greatest show on Earth We are here to care for the garden The wonder of birth (the odds of us being born at all is 400 trillion to one) Of every form most beautiful Every form most beautiful (Forms Most Beautiful - Charles Darwin) We are one We are a universe Forebears of what will be Scions of the Devonian sea Aeons pass writing the tale of us all A day-to-day new opening For the greatest show on Earth [Part 3: The Toolmaker] After a billion years The show is still here Not a single one of your fathers died young (our prehistoric fathers must have been old enough to breed or we would not be here at all) The handy travellers (the first tool makers) Out of Africa (from whence we all came) Little Lucy of the Afar (Lucy was discovered at Afar in Ethiopia, an upright hominin, so called because the Beatles Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds was being played at the time, Lucy is considered to be the missing link from apes to humans and believed to be about 13yo at the time of death. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucy_(Australopithecus))
@572Btriode Жыл бұрын
#3 Gave birth to fantasy To idolatry To self-destructive weaponry Enter the God of gaps (God of the gaps is a theological perspective in which gaps in scientific knowledge are taken to be evidence or proof of God's existence. The term "gaps" was initially used by Christian theologians not to discredit theism but rather to point out the fallacy of relying on teleological arguments for God's existence) Deep within the past Atavistic dread of the hunted (relating to or characterized by reversion to something ancient or ancestral) Enter Ionia, the cradle of thought (Ionia is accepted as the cradle of thought and philosophy) The architecture of understanding The human lust to feel so exceptional To rule the Earth Hunger for shiny rocks (Diamonds and precious stones being suggested) For giant mushroom clouds The will to do just as you'd be done by (A reference to Mutually Assured Destruction) Enter history, the grand finale (when we will become extinct too) Enter ratkind (this suggests after mankind has perished/killed itself, the rats will become dominant and sentient life, then they hypothesise how we became extinct. It is a fact that the first life forms returning to nuclear test sites are rats living in radiation levels lethal to us, this hypothesis is from Dawkins also.) Man, he took his time in the sun (us now) Had a dream to understand A single grain of sand He gave birth to poetry But one day'll cease to be Greet the last light of the library (the cessation of mankind and the ending of our recorded knowledge) Man, he took his time in the sun (us now) Had a dream to understand A single grain of sand (in this second iteration, the first two bars of Metallica “Enter the Sandman” are played as a nod to them, one of the first HM bands to work with an orchestra and the sand reference. Metallica is rather a favourite of Tuomas too as they set him off on a musical path. There are several Easter eggs in this too with some phrases from classical and pop music too. Someone said, and I take no credit for this analysis, the little hidden melody bits were some African tribal drumming, a medieval hymn (Dies Irae), Johan Sebastian Bach (Christian Petzold) - Minuet in G major and Toccata & Fugue in D minor, American banjo music, Metallica - Enter Sandman and the bassline from Nightwish - I Wish I Had An Angel. Also Megadeth - Symphony of Destruction.) He gave birth to poetry But one day'll cease to be Greet the last light of the library Man, he took his time in the sun Had a dream to understand A single grain of sand He gave birth to poetry But one day'll cease to be Greet the last light of the library (There will be a human extinction event, no if's, just when. The sun is getting bigger by capturing space hydrogen, space is not exactly empty, it will eventually turn the planet to sand and boil the seas, we will be long gone by then, or on a different planet. It will become a red giant and swallow Mercury, Venus and the Earth. None of us need worry presently, it's a very long way off, a very long way off being about 5 billion years. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun#Life_phases) We were here! We were here! We were here! We were here! (We have always been here, we're made of the space dust and condensing gasses from the big bang, everything before us is still here in a different state and everybody and everything to come is here, as yet un-assembled, we are a universe as the atoms and molecules that make us and we have come from a universe.) [Part 4: The Understanding] (From Richard Dawkins) "We are going to die, and that makes us the lucky ones. Most people are never going to die because they are never going to be born. The potential people who could have been here in my place but who will in fact never see the light of day outnumber the sand grains of Sahara. Certainly those unborn ghosts include greater poets than Keats, scientists greater than Newton. We know this because the set of possible people allowed by our DNA so massively exceeds the set of actual people. In the teeth of those stupefying odds it is you and I, in our ordinariness, that are here. We privileged few, who won the lottery of birth against all odds, how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state from which the vast majority have never stirred" [Part 5: Sea-Worn Driftwood] (original text from Charles Darwin read by Dawkins) "There is grandeur in this view of life, with its several powers, having been originally breathed into a few forms or into one; and that whilst this planet has gone cycling on according to the fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful have been, and are being, evolved."
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all of this. Some of the more technical concepts went a bit over my head (thanks for the additional context on most of this). This is a wondrous deep dive into the lyrical component that I lack the knowledge for.
@572Btriode Жыл бұрын
@@CriticalReactions You are most welcome. It is often like a second bite of the cherry digging into Tuomas' lyrics, let's remember he's using his second language too. Someone accurately commented a little while back, Tuomas has three languages, music, Finnish and English.
@grantharriman284 Жыл бұрын
I bow to the icon of commitment that is this ABSOLUTE UNIT of a wall of text. 20 minute song and you went for the whole thing.
@Anttik_ Жыл бұрын
About separating different movements of the song: they use the lights and the background imaginery to enhance this when playing live. Also different keys and time signatures play a part in this. And often depends on the story they are telling how the parts are separated, what ever suits best to the story. You were also talking about them making the primal noises or grunting at one point. Did you notice, that they were introducing a musical idea with that grunting? They were grunting the exact same Megadeth-style guitar riff that they started playing after that. That might be one of the smartest things I have ever heard. Nightwish often introduces themes or musical ideas first with synth or orchestra before then playing it with the whole band. And sometimes returning later to the themes they were playing earlier in the song. Wonder if they got that kind of ideas from classical music or from cinematic movie scores. The first section is called "Four Point Six", which refers to age of planet earth, 4.6 billion years. So, the orchestrated stabs quite probaply are asteroids hitting planet earth during the formation of it. So first it's just floating in space, them some asteroid hits, and then again continue floating on it's path around the sun. I think the composer has really thought about this, nothing that is happening in the song is there by accident. About Nightwish music, they are really not doing it to please the masses. They are just doing the kind of music that they themselves like. They have actually "dissapointed" their old fans a few times by going into new musical directions. Some old fans still say, that the old powermetal-era Nightwish is when it was at it's best. Then they went to more symphonic music, then to cinematic, adding some folky elements in the blend, etc. Last one or two albums have been again a bit different from earlier style, and some fans are not happy with that. The overall sound has changed quite a lot during the years, especially with different kind of lead singers. And also thematically last couple albums have been quite different from the earlier ones. If they really did this to please the masses, they would still be doing the same old Nightwish style songs that they were doing 20 years ago. They have really been reinventing themselves every few years. But somehow they are still the very same band as in the beginning.
@EricManktelow Жыл бұрын
I'll agree with it not being random or accidental. I can't ever imagine Toumas letting things in the composition of songs being accidental. It may be left open for fans to read into it as they will, make it their own story but it's certainly not an accident.
@572Btriode Жыл бұрын
@@EricManktelow Would be absolutely accurate, I believe every note, lyric and backdrop image is there for a cogent reason, Tuomas is not given to wasting anything musical or using embellishment frippery.
@TheTaragond Жыл бұрын
It starts with the planet? I always assumed it starts with the Big Bang!? So at first there was nothing but hydrogen in newly created space, slowly accumulating to the first stars, eventually going supernova breeding the heavy elements necessary for the next generation of stars having planets around them which can in turn breed life (Luca)
@dac2007 Жыл бұрын
@@TheTaragond it starts with the formation of Earth 4.6 billion years ago, the Big Bang was supposed to be much earlier
@TheTaragond Жыл бұрын
@@dac2007 yeah, but that’s when she starts singing. The piano in the beginning should therefore be?
@billattercliffe8655 Жыл бұрын
The song is about the creation of the planet and the evolution of life upon it, so ya, it has to be bombastic. There's no other way of telling that story. The song progresses through the evolution of humanity including the history of music, including Bach, banjos, tribal drums, EDM, and Metallica. It wasn't random.
@marinamucic908 Жыл бұрын
Without context you could even call Marseillaise reference in 1812 "random". While it seems pretentious comparing Tuomas to Tchaikovsky, they basically did the same thing there: they referenced a famous piece of music to make a point story-wise
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
I dedicated an entire timestamp of the analysis section to explaining this part of the song, having a smile on my face as I explained their intent.
@galadballcrusher8182 Жыл бұрын
Yup it included a bit of menuet then Tocata and Fugue from Bach's Symphony in D minor then a bit of banjo, some ragtime, a bit of edm ,Enter Sandman by Metallica , and a bit techno by Prodigy.
@strabel803 Жыл бұрын
Let's not forget also the reference music/image wise to "Koyaanisqatsi" (the last part with all the traffic) 🤘
@damonbryan7232 Жыл бұрын
This is absolutely what I love about art. It's SOOOO subjective. Hundreds of thousands of years ago. Someone made the first piece of art. Which instantly invented the critic🤣😂. Great breakdown. Keep it up.
@markusdd5 Жыл бұрын
As you very correctly pointed out, and that is true for much of the fanbase (which I would count myself into): Live is what counts with these guys. The studio albums have some beautfiul compositions which don't work super well in a live environment, but there are just these 'bangers' that fuel up a chemistry between the band and crowd in a live environment that I have rarely experienced with other bands (not saying never through), and I've seen and enjoyed quite a few of them. It's also the consistency and quality that they are able to deliver live which is not always happening with all artists out there. I have immense respect for Floor, which I think we can all agree knows her craft as as a singer. Being that physically active for 2 hours on stage and switching vocal styles like it's nothing all the time, and then belting 10 second high Fs and Es at the of such a show is just plain impressive. I will have the chance to see them again tomorrow in Berlin and I am very much looking forward to it. Appreciate this deep dive!
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
I can certainly see the consistency and live angle through my limited exposure to their work. They seem to have a huge track record of great shows and they never let their fans down.
@markusdd5 Жыл бұрын
@@CriticalReactions Absolutely. Saw them live on Friday and Berlin and it once again was just magical. Considering Floor had breast cancer surgery less than a month ago and was still delivering those kinds of vocals paired with the physical performance...just wow. It's just something else. No idea how she does it.
@vogel2280 Жыл бұрын
"The greatest show on earth" is actually a book of Richard Dawkins (biologist, philosopher) @29:10 Actually the song started a bit earlier, at the creation of the sun and earth (which was a violent process with colliding debris and huge forces) "The cosmic law of gravity pulled the new-borns around te fire" @33:40 The backingtrack is part of the track on the album as wel. It is there throughout the entire song. It's mainly the London Philharmonic orchestra. The band plays to a clicktrack in their in-ear monitor to keep in sync. @46:30 I think it was intentional '2 dimensional' Although we are here to witness and appreciate the wonders, evolution itself does not care. It follows simple mechanisms of cause and effect. The song points out in which direction we are heading and where it will take us. (Personally, I think the ending of life reflects more to the individual man than mankind.) @49:00 Nightwish is very diverse in it's music. You were pointed at THE 3 songs that were written as movie scores (GLS actually has score in it's name) And you are right: Tuomas has a time and a place for everything. And you must keep your target audience in mind. @55:10 Yes, the experiences people have in their live shows (whether or not recorded) play a huge part in what draws people to this band. These are modern times. Perception is created by the complete experience. I'd love to get your thoughts on other NW music apart from the 3 scores they produced. Will other music have the same drawbacks to you to keep you from being a fan: - Music: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iNR_l7RmvLS-ep8.html (video, instrumental, some might call it 'classical' music) - I want my tears back kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iqh_l8qpz8iUm4E.html (live, Celtic, metal, pop) - Shoemaker kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iNCgkqeX27DNnZs.html (video, lyrical cadans from medieval times, metal, some opera) --> take a minute to see who Eugene Shoemaker is before reacting or it might make little sense. - Dead Boy's Poem kzfaq.info/get/bejne/iZ51Zq9ozM2wfYE.html (live, lyrical, the very core of Tuomas)
@v.v4879 Жыл бұрын
I read the book before they came out this song.... when I listened this song, I went crazy
@jaakkomaaniemi2136 Жыл бұрын
You're quite right. This song was much shortened and cut down from the initial version to have it more performable live. And, the next full album, Human Nature, is a direct sequel to this song, and has several songs that focus on single idea included in this song. A full song of each sub-idea works much better than barely fitting the main ones into one song. Human Nature is peak Nightwish, and I'm excited for the next album which is the final part of this grand whole.
@jotarodopudim Жыл бұрын
Some people are coping in the comments saying "he didn't understand the song", bro he DID understand the song, he's just honest
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
Thank you. 😅 It's been wild seeing the comments telling me I was wrong and then repeat similar ideas I expressed in the vid. 😄
@silverblack5475 Жыл бұрын
I saw them back in may in NYC and there was about 3 rhousand people in attendance ( not popular here in the states) , no pyro , backscreen , minimal lighting and it was one of the best shows ive ever seen and ive seen just about everybidy......they just sound so much better live ( extremely loud) .....i barely listen to the studio records , they just dont capture the epicness of the songs .
@craigbolton5093 Жыл бұрын
I was there. I concur.
@jimmyhostetler3821 Жыл бұрын
😅
@jimmyhostetler3821 Жыл бұрын
😅
@miad1866 Жыл бұрын
Agree!!
@Jason_xofilos Жыл бұрын
I concur. I went the San Francisco show and the two shows in LA.
@Salmar80 Жыл бұрын
I think Nightwish self-sacrifices a lot to be not a gate keeper, but a gate-opener. There's some anti-Hodor to a band that tries to keep the door open to usher new listeners through into metal and/or classical music. I thank them for that. While the landscape of music is nowadays free to explore, for most folks it takes a guide and some help to venture onto strange territory.
@Gibbetoo Жыл бұрын
maybe you should react to All the Works of Nature Which Adorn the World by Nightwish, maybe you change your mind. it is 31 minute cd 2 from their album Human. :II: Nature.
@uralinmarsu837 Жыл бұрын
Yea, and as a note it is much more a classical composition rather than a rock song.
@tribvne9633 Жыл бұрын
Agreed. I appreciated his honest take, and after hearing it I believe he *might* enjoy the second CD of Human :||: Nature because it wasn't written for the fanbase.
@sanneke5104 Жыл бұрын
agreed. All youre critics are solved in that album, a rendition to this and most in cd 2 All the Works of ......
@christophermiller4040 Жыл бұрын
Tuomas the keyboard guy writes ✍️ and composes all the songs he's also a poet ,the guy is a genius, in the stuff he comes up with....
@HobDobson Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't say that the band compromises their art for the sake of general accessibility. Rather, their goal seems (to me) to be forging a personal connection with the audience through their performance of the music. Leaving out what doesn't serve your goals is an art in itself. That said, if the song isn't to your taste or doesn't connect with you, that's cool.
@JoeBizzle Жыл бұрын
Evolution of the universe. Evolution of life. Evolution of humanity. Evolution of music. Evolution of the band. Evolution of Tuomas.
@alastairmcintyre4752 Жыл бұрын
Tuomas wrote the song after reading the book " The Greatest Show On Earth " by evolutionary biologist Richard Dawkins who is an Emeritus Fellow at Oxford University in the UK . Dawkins is the narrator of the piece and appears at the end of the song - the words he is speaking are his own from the book . The song is a timeline from the Big Bang through man's evolution to what will be his eventual demise - if you realise this simple fact the song and it's component parts make perfect sense ( unless you don't want it to of course )
@littleraven28 Жыл бұрын
The greatest show on Earth is life. This song tells the story of us how we came to be here through evolution. You got that right and then we see what happens if we destroy Earth... Enter Ratkind. It's said that if we destroy life through a nuclear bomb, rodents will survive and will start evolution again. Tuomas also weaved in the history of music, from gutteral singing, Bach to Metallica. You thought it was random, but Tuomas does nothing at random, in fact he once timed a death in a song to the second in 3 minutes time from the time it was mentioned. The lyrics are something he can tinker with until it is absolutely spot on in his mind. The ending with Sir Richard Dawkins was the cherry on the pie. The pause and applause was because Endless Forms Most Beautiful is the Album this song is on, named after Dawkins book. The quote he cited was from Darwin. Btw .. this song was originally almost 40 minutes, but they thought it was too long... who knows what was cut.? Marko - Enter Ionia Floor - Enter LUCA & Enter Life Emppu - Enter Sandman 🤘🏽 You should listen to Master Passion Greed. This is something totally different. The spectacle of the show... that's why you go... you're not there to listen to the music, you're there to see the show.
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
"The spectacle of the show... that's why you go... you're not there to listen to the music" That's pretty much what I spoke about at the end and as I see more and more fans talk about it is going to be a huge hurdle for me. I'm a "music for music's sake" kinda guy; I'm not attending a concert for the visual spectacle, I'm there to hear some live music. I don't want to diminish how much work and effort Nightwish puts into their shows, but it simply isn't for me.
@littleraven28 Жыл бұрын
@@CriticalReactions hehehe well I already suggested the 2nd disc of Human : Nature which is totally orchestral. But I do have to say I find it strange that you do music VIDEO reactions, since videos are not your thing. You like to just hear the music, but expect people to be entertained by watching you.... Btw I saw NW live last night and it was awesome 🤘🏽
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
@@littleraven28 That's awesome! It's always a treat to see our favorite bands live. As for the video reaction, 90% of my reactions are just music and I typically use audio from Apple Music so I can get a higher bitrate, less lossy sound. But for this specific case the live video was specifically selected for the reaction. In the requestor's defense though I don't think they are a long fan of the channel. IIRC they had seen my Poet and the Pendulum video and then request GSoE.
@Brombit Жыл бұрын
52:11 or maybe this IS the music he wants to write, without compromises 🙂 and it just happens to appeal to many people.
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
That's could definitely be it. A possible adjacent angle that I didn't explore in the video is that Tuomas has already "proved" his composition chops and is just having fun now. And of course there is nothing wrong with that angle as well. I think what sparked this topic is that this song, and Tuomas' composition in general, are massively hyped for me so I end up expecting something phenomenal. I mean, even in this comment section I've seen Tuomas referred to as a genius and get compared to Tchaikovsky. That sets my expectations at a very high level, regardless of how unfair that is to Nightwish. There are times when I wish I could have started my Nightwish journey like I assume most of their fans -- having an unadulterated first exposure with no expectations, just getting blown away by them.
@dac2007 Жыл бұрын
@@CriticalReactions that problem was also had by another analysis channel, where the lady there was expecting some Mozart level of music. You were much more polite about it though.
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
@@dac2007 That's kinda what I was expecting. I don't want to put the blame of overhyping on the fans, especially since it seems most reaction channels end up fawning over NW as well, but there's going to be a group of people who's composition barometer is wider than your average music listener and those descriptions will instill an image of the band that is far beyond what they typically are. And I say that as someone who has potentially messed up the first time experience of some my friends by overhyping a piece of media as well -- I've been there and I get it 😅
@dac2007 Жыл бұрын
@@CriticalReactions yeah lol but no problem I really enjoyed the analysis and understand reasons for not being sold to the band (at least not yet)
@tribvne9633 Жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best and most honest reactions I have ever seen, if not the most honest. It takes courage to stand in front of the army and to appreciate yet disagree with them. I found your take and breakdown refreshing. I believe you are correct about Nightwish (Toumas) making their music more palatable to the masses. What I think I could add though is that this isn't a bad thing in regard to Music. In a time where most popular music is watered down garbage, I think the decisions are well made to make a song more palatable and enjoyable. It will bring people who have been listening to simple/standardized music around to the concepts that there is more (much more) out there that can make you FEEL SOMETHING. I do not disagree with your analysis, but I suggest you analyze why Toumas would compose things the way he does. Is it a greedy grab for more listeners, or a heartfelt plea for people to expand their horizons and to see that there is more? I personally feel that Nightwish is like a gateway drug. lol. Toumas opens people's eyes to what more is out there. The rabbit hole is deep, and Nightwish just helps you fall into it.
@littleraven28 Жыл бұрын
I was just thinking how much you like the orchestral work. Did you know that the second disc of Human : Nature.. is totally orchestral? Maybe that is more up your alley
@skeezesmith7954 Жыл бұрын
The animal sounds were not on a backing tape. The three singers created these sounds. 🤘😊
@572Btriode Жыл бұрын
Right again as ever Skeeze.
@Mystress1980 Жыл бұрын
Well no, the animal noises were in the backing track (chimps, birds etc.), but he incorrectly attributed the grunting to them also making animal noises, when they're mimicking our distant ancestors, like Lucy of the Afar and neanderthals. I guess, technically, we're animals too, but this was before homo sapiens sapiens learned to talk and grunting was the preferred method of verbal communication.
@grantharriman284 Жыл бұрын
There are some that would be borderline physically impossible for the human voice to replicate. The growling is all live, but the bird noises and such were backing track.
@billmorrison8292 Жыл бұрын
You got the first part of the song wrong. The first part was initially the sounds of the universe, then the big bang and the creation of the Earth. Then comes the early evolution to LUCA which is the Last Universal Common Ancestor. Then on to humans and LUCY who was at the time the oldest know human skeleton found. The animal part is the advent of the Hunter prior to speech. Then enter IONIA which is the birth of current civilisation. Then onto more modern times including the evolution of music. Then onto the chaos of today. I am surprised how long it took for you to realise what the song was about. Perhaps you might have picked it up quicker with the subtitles on. I imagine you were listening to the music and tuning out the lyrics but Nightwish songs need to be looked at as a complete entity including lighting, pyro and visuals.
@ilkkak3065 Жыл бұрын
Big bang is more obvious in Tampere version
@strabel803 Жыл бұрын
@@ilkkak3065 You are both wrong,if there was a big bang ,there would be only 1 big "musical bang" ,the different bangs are the meteorites wich slams together to form the earth (and moon) and get slammed later on with more (musical) meteorites. So,there already was a universe,this goes back +/- 4.5 billion y. But,okay,it's not a big deal to have different interpretations,only the "time frame"would be different.😉🤘
@joekel55 Жыл бұрын
Some words in the song: THE TAPESTRY OF CHEMISTRY: The periodic table of the chemical elements. GAEA: As originally conceived the 'Gaia' concept envisages the Earth as a super-organism that operates to regulate its own environment, principally temperature, to keep it habitable for the biosphere OPUS PERFECTUM the perfect work, the perfect creation AEON: Used in reference to a period of a thousand million years (especially in geology, cosmology and astronomy), its more common usage is for any long, indefinite period THE GARDEN: The earth. THE GOLDILOCKS ZONES: refers to the habitable zone around a star. It's the zone that has just the right temperatures for ( intelligent) life to develop. LUCA: It's the acronym for the Last Universal Common Ancestor, a key concept in the study of early evolution and life's origin that has been tracked by scientists for years. ENTER SANDMAN: Song of the group Metallica LUCY OF THE AFAR Collection of several hundred pieces of fossilized bone representing 40 percent of a female of the hominin species Australopithecus AFARENSIS In Ethiopia, Why was Lucy so important? In 1974, Lucy showed that human ancestors were up and walking around long before the earliest stone tools were made or brains got bigger, and subsequent fossil finds of much earlier bipedal hominids have confirmed that conclusion. Bipedalism, it seems, was the first step towards becoming human. DEVONION SEA: The Devonian is a geologic period and system of the Paleozoic, spanning 60.3 million years ..., called after the place Devon in the UK where rockes of that period were first studied. ********
@grantharriman284 Жыл бұрын
This song does have a studio record version, but it went through a LOT of development even after that was recorded. According to Tuomas there was a version roughly twice as long as this at one point. One can find a number of live shows from throughout that development and see it evolve, though nothing so drastic as cutting half the song out.
@ilkkak3065 Жыл бұрын
Actually there is short version. In Bloodstock they played only 11 min version
@grantharriman284 Жыл бұрын
@@ilkkak3065 I'll have to check that out. i can't even imagine what they cut to get that short.
@ilkkak3065 Жыл бұрын
@@grantharriman284 On Bloodstock channel has hole show. Someone has put Time stamps to comments.
@andrelglinnenbank2856 Жыл бұрын
I don't think "I don't want to spoil" is good advice for this song. TGSoE is a modern day equivalent of Die Schoepfung. It helps to understand that the loud percussion in the beginning is planetesimals forming the earth. The earth and the evolution of life goes through various sudden changes, some of these are reflected in the song, and they don't make any sense without the backstory. As such that backstory is necessary for the kind of analysis in this channel. For a more casual listening it may not be as important.
@johannes4218 Жыл бұрын
This is one of my favorite Nightwish songs. I absolutely get your criticisms and would agree that they tend to fall into the same cathegory of "pop-metal" like Sabaton or newer Ghost. Still, I would say that Nightwish stands out from those other bands by having a lot more variety in their sound while still keeping it palatable for a wider audience. To me, that's not limiting creativity, but channeling it in a different form.
@AndreSomers Жыл бұрын
I don’t really agree actually. If you listen to Human :||: Nature, can you really call melody lines like those in Schumacher “palatable” for the large audience?
@johannes4218 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I agree that there are parts of Nightwish that are more intricate and not as "mass-appealing". I think that Human :||: Nature as a whole took a step in that direction, but as a whole, their sound is still mostly more simplistic. Even the second half of the record, the half-hour symphonic piece, has a distinctly soundtrack-like feel to it which is, in my opinion, the style in which Tuomas excels at the most.
@scifimonkey3 Жыл бұрын
You did not go back far enough….the 1st movement was the Big Bang, the formation of the solar system and the formation of the earth. This was a violent time superimposed on the simple empty background of the early universe. This is what those huge stabs and dissonances were depicting.
@AndreSomers Жыл бұрын
@@scifimonkey3 nope, not the Big Bang. That’s too far back. It’s the formation of the solar system.
@grantharriman284 Жыл бұрын
I think most metal fans can find at least one or two songs on each Nightwish album they enjoy. Then you have the Nightwish fanatics like myself that get emotional listening to nearly every song on every album.
@MrDempmeister Жыл бұрын
Hi! Thank you for a very intresting video, I really enjoy your content. I wanted to give you my thoughts on why people tend to prefer the live stuff. For me it’s in their tone. If you listen to the albums there is something missing and I think that is because they sound better in front of an audience. They feed off the energy from the crowd and I think the clearest example of it is in Floors voice. It is always beautiful ofc, but when she’s in front of an audience there is so much more emotion in her voice. And the same thing happens with all of them. In the studio they are to confined and focused on producing.
@rolsen1304 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely this. Same with Epica, their tone live is just massive virtuosos displaying hyperactivity. Studio is more clinical and feels more scripted. Especially Simone will experiment with adding runs and trills not there on the studio version if she's feeling the energy of the show.
@mattilindstrom Жыл бұрын
Great reaction, thank you very much! The meat of your reaction was the analysis and rarely have I heard or seen such insightful commentary, well done. In some places you seem to tread carefully not to upset The Army, which to me would be a bass-ackwards way to do things, I personally like to be a bit upset and on my toes. As a NW fan, this made me think, and thinking is always good. With most of your analysis I can readily concur. Multimedia band, that's food food for thought. My focus has always been in the vocals and the emotional content (I have listened the album version of the song numerous times before seeing any live video). There in my personal experience lies the appeal of Nightwish, some songs may be compositionally sub-par, uninteresting, or sort of good. The sum of all elements is what I'm after.
@Garbox80 Жыл бұрын
I would think that the newest album's second part (it's own cd at that) would suit your taste a bit better. All The Works Of Nature That Adorn. A great analysis though. Good to see that you can look at it objectively even though it's not your cup of tea as you said. Huge respect for that.
@noneofyerbeeswax8194 Жыл бұрын
Interesting points. Critical indeed. I can't address all of them because the comment would be as long as the video. So you're saying this song is less emotionally impactful than the "Poet"? Totally agree. The idea is very ambitious, both musically and message-wise. Too much so to be properly executed within the relatively limited timeframe. Also, the "scientific" theme is by definition less emotional than... anything else, really. The show and the "wow" factor are indeed a big part of the Nightwish performances, but it's pretty much the case with every metal band. It does help enhance the experience, but for me personally it has little to do with music. But I sort of come from the classical background (only as a listener though), so that's probably why. The entrance of the man Himself at the end... Dawkins, this fearless crusader, waging his Holy War against the witchcraft of organized religion in the name of Scientific Enlightenment - and the people in the crowd literally praying to him. Oh, wait...🤔 P.S. I've got an idea of a band you may want to analyze and probably will even like - and which you as an American have certainly never heard of. Should I make a suggestion?
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
Ya know, I wonder how much of the emotional disconnect is intentional. Not only because of the scientific angle but because so much of the song is specifically about time and concepts that we will never have any experience with. It's like the difference of reading about something massively influential, like say The Beatles, vs having been alive at the time and getting to feel and experience the massive shift in the musical landscape. None of us can have even the slightest understanding of the beginning of time, of the big bang, or of a post-human (or even post-Earth) future.
@notvochkin Жыл бұрын
And as an interesting item, there are four species named for Nightwish - one species named for the band as a whole, one for Tuomas and two for Floor.
@greywuuf Жыл бұрын
Coming as a listener of music and having zero professional input, I personal feel your synopsis is trying to fit their production into your understanding. I beleive that you have narrowed the scope of the song to humanity. This composition starts Before the big bang , covers the coalescing of the planets and the very earliest life forms. This song is not about humanity .....but eternity .....and is presented from humanities struggle to find its place in it, and the overwhelming reality that we are ultimately fleeting.
@EricManktelow Жыл бұрын
The song becomes more chaotic and aggressive when describing chaotic and aggressive periods in Earth's history. The formation of the planet, early tribal man (the grunting and growling), modern man with beautiful things like poetry and science and music but also wars, destruction and death. Then one day man won't be here (who knows why, the song doesn't explain the end of mankind just says it'll happen) and the universe will go on. For me the important part is our time in the sun (being alive) is fleeting but we are currently here now so make the most of it and embrace life, try and leave the place in a better state than you found it when you arrived :) Also don't whine about dying, at least you had a chance to live unlike most potential DNA combinations :)
@Marco-Conner Жыл бұрын
16:04 Floor - Enter LUCA Marko - Enter Ionia Emppu - Enter Sandman
@timotimo4152 Жыл бұрын
You are, of course, totally entitled to your opinions and you expressed those eloquently, thoughtfully and carefully..If you allow me a clumsy summary,? NW doesn't quite float yur boat and you imply that they may be compromising artistic integrity for commercial success (with the help of the set designers and pyro people)...which you find fustrating? I just hope that you can also accept that for others, discovering NW has quite literally changed lives. I've dabbled in virtually every form popular, rock classical, opera etc... music over the years (quite a few), I 've never really agreed with the necessary 'labels' that go with identifying genres and while having had plenty of wonderous experiences and seeing a great number of so called 'legends' in that time, I never settled into a niche... NW, from my very first song, were different. No other music immediately grabbed my full attention and now routinely makes me burst into tears between bouts of banging my head and punching the air like a loon with a big grin. To be honest, if you'd asked me if music could even consistently do that to me 5yrs ago when I stumbled on a youtube algorithm I'd have thought you were kidding. Whats more, there's no other act in this genre or any other that I've even remotely connected with in this way. For me the Floor / Tuomas H nexus is the key (without in any way belittling the stellar contribution of the others). I'm so happy to have found my natural home in music and there's no sign of me getting bored with the ride...indeed , it'll quite likely be my last ride.
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
For sure. I don't pretend to be anything other than some dude with a pretty good ear and the last thing I would ever want to do is gatekeep art (or anything, for that matter). I'm so glad that NW has touched so many people and, like I said in the video, they're obviously doing something right as they continue to sell out shows like this -- not to mention that I saw a few people tearing up near the end of this specific show. They definitely resonate with people and I'm glad that they've hit you in that manner as well. Everyone should have that one band (or more 😄) that absolutely makes them feel something.
@richardjones38 Жыл бұрын
Nightwish are my definition of an acquired taste band. I bought Once in 2004, and spent about a year repeatedly coming back to it to try to work out whether I liked it or not. Eventually I realised that If I didn't like it, there's no way I'd find myself coming back to listen again so often. It was so worth the effort - I've been a massive fan ever since. I have quite a lot of music, and I've never really had that with any other band, never mind one which ended up a favourite. Byran - your ability to pick up on so much in one listen never ceases to amaze me!
@Kraakesolv Жыл бұрын
To you it is an acquired taste perhaps, but for most I'd say they are the opposite. After all, that's the reason they have become so huge and why reactors not used to metal instantly like them. An easy, catchy intro to the genre. Having been metalhead for 35 years, I have yet to meet someone who would define them like you. Interesting. I have, however, played them for many who didn't like metal and went on to love them and then leave them in favour of more challenging listens. It's well crafted but perhaps too much so? It feels too polished, a beautiful piece of art but without soul. Imo.
@dac2007 Жыл бұрын
@@vogel2280 GLS and Romanticide are both in the same album (Once, 2004)
@vogel2280 Жыл бұрын
@@dac2007 I stand corrected
@jeffreyphipps1507 Жыл бұрын
NW was EXTREMELY limited by Health and Safety to play it here - see the Tampere version to get a different view. It's the birth of the universe. You're talking over the lyrics. Listen.
@elvwood Жыл бұрын
Thanks for a thorough and thoughtful analysis! Sorry it's not clicking for you; it happens (there are many bands where I recognise the quality but aren't drawn to the music). I do think the live experience makes a huge difference to me, even though I love listening to NW studio albums too. However, I wouldn't say it's a particularly optimistic song about humanity; the early sections aren't about us, and most of The Toolmaker is very angry in tone. It's just that Tuomas tries to end on a positive note. People who feel depressed and attacked aren't going to do the best job of caring for the garden, so you have the scene-setting, then the admonition, then the warning, then the reminder of how amazing it is that we are here at all. For me it strikes the right balance. When I saw them at Wembley on Monday it was a fantastic experience, but there was one sour note. They ended with Greatest Show and then Ad Astra, which is a piece they have used to promote the work of the World Land Trust in caring for the planet. Once the crowd started to disperse it revealed all the rubbish scattered across the arena floor, which most people were just ignoring. It felt like a symbol of how badly we neglect our duty of care. I just hope we learn our lesson in time, or we may as well step aside for ratkind right now.
@Brombit Жыл бұрын
Oh no, the garbage on the ground while that song is playing is so ironic 😬
@gabby15107 Жыл бұрын
The beauty of art is its subjective nature. From the artist and the palate, to the end observer, every view is different. And, I appreciate yours, whether you like it or not, and why. Cheers!
@rianavermeulen4316 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Loved your reaction. Nightwish is telling a story in every song. Nightwish Army, South Africa 😆
@w.miguel10 ай бұрын
It's okay, I understand when you're used to standardized music, then something wonderful comes out of the box for some and it's complicated to understand, but everything evolves so listen more because it's worth it!
@jeffreyphipps1507 Жыл бұрын
The homages are representative of some of man's contributions to society.
@erickvermeulen9734 Жыл бұрын
it is 4.6 billion years (only factor 1000 off), the age of the Earth. Richard Dawkins quotes in the end the last section of the book Origin of Species (1859) by Charles Darwin
@miskatonic6210 Жыл бұрын
To be honest...this isn't a song to listen to casually. It focusses on telling a story. There are other songs from them more suitable to listen to casually.
@jonathanhenderson9422 Жыл бұрын
Funny thing about Nightwish is that I discovered them long before they exploded in popularity thanks to online reaction channels. Before then they were only big among a very niche group of fans of symphonic metal, which itself was such a niche genre. I give huge credit to Floor Jansen for breaking them into a much larger audience, and I do think many of their live performances with her have been exceptional. Nothing against Tarja or Annette, but they just didn't have Floor's versatility. The funny thing is that in terms of their studio albums I mostly prefer their work prior to Floor: especially Oceanborn and Once. Still, they don't have a studio album I've rated higher than an 8/10 so they've never been a band I've thought reached that "next level" of greatness. For me, with Nightwish, it's all about their live performances with Floor that keeps me coming back to them as much as I do. There isn't another band I can think of where I'm so ambivalent towards their studio work, and yet I keep listening/watching to their live material. As for their epics, I honestly prefer Ghost Love Score and The Poet and the Pendulum to this one, though part of that may just be because I haven't heard this one as much. I do think I enjoyed it here more than I have in the past, so maybe I just need to give it some more spins. RE Your criticism: While I agree that their balance of very palatable versions pop, metal, folk, and symphonic music are what makes them so popular, it's worth noting that they were also doing that even before they were popular (though they slightly changed from being more symphonic power metal to being more symphonic classic metal), and it took a long time for them to garner the massive fanbase they have now, so I have to think that they're making/playing precisely the kind of music they like and want to. Certainly anyone looking for more complex, progressive, challenging, avant-garde, intricate, technical, etc. metal, folk, or symphonic music isn't probably going to dig Nightwish, but IMO I actually think their ability to balance all of these aspects is one of their strengths as a band. At their best they can actually write some killer pop songs like Ever Dream and Storytime. If I do have a knock against them it's precisely what you say that their inability to be more progressive works against them when they do write these epics. I do wonder if perhaps you might like their older stuff more, something from Oceanborn or Wishmaster.
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
You're not the first person to say that their ability to balance the complex and the accessible is a strength. I honestly thought I covered this in the video but either I wasn't clear or I didn't say it at all. I completely agree though, it's a massive strength and them leaning into it is obviously a fantastic decision given their popularity and ability to connect with people (see the people in the front row tearing up by the end of this performance). I've been told to check out both older works and Human Nature but I don't think I've been given specific older works so thanks for suggesting Oceanborn and Wishmaster.
@Brombit Жыл бұрын
@@CriticalReactions Oceanborn and Wishmaster are albums, so it's not that specific either 😉 I'd go for Gethsemane / Devil & the Deep dark ocean / Dead boy's poem / FantasMic
@galadballcrusher8182 Жыл бұрын
He was not emulating animal sounds but our ancestors sounds the oldest ones closest to animals throatwise.
@minhtudo7106 Жыл бұрын
No, you dont need to love them. This is the matter of taste. But sometime their song need to be understand as a whole before we can like it. I never call myself as metalhead or metal fan, so this is not the love at first sight to me. My brother kept my interested by told me some of their history, quoted some interesting lines in their lyrics. And then I became a fan somehow I dont know.
@minhtudo7106 Жыл бұрын
And English is not my native language, I can say my english is very bad. So I have to pay a lot of time and effort to understand their song
@Quarrymanly Жыл бұрын
Reading lyrics seems to be significant after hearing the misinterpretation of the actual music early on in your analysis. Incorrectly assuming microbial development as an interpretation in place of the formation of the galaxy might seem relevant in the misunderstanding of the point of the actual sound. Sounds chosen against the backdrop of lyrics seems relevant though I appreciate the effort to separate your impressions. Judging the choices of sound prematurely has a seemingly counterproductive side effect in missing the entire purpose of the music unfortunately. Food for thought.
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
Yup, the format is prone to this on occasion but I'd like to flip this around a little. While I did miss the conceptual scope of the opening I still had the right vibe -- small beginnings evolving to greatness. I think that stands as a testament to Tuomas' writing that even without the lyrics to guide me I was still able to glean the general concept he was going for. Despite my criticisms regarding Tuomas' overall composition on this song in specific, it was again a strong showcasing of the thematic clarity that he consistently puts on display in his writing.
@ltloxa11595 ай бұрын
As I see it, perhaps your most impactfull missunderstanding is in the nature of the parts, viewing them as purely chronological, partially explaining why they were flat to you. The way I see it, there are three main parts. The first talking about the emergence of life, the second about humans, and the third about the acceptance of death. Cruscially, even the first part takes the time to adress you, or rather us. We have finally opened our eyes, we are the universe... It covers the grandure of the universe, the hopefullness and beauty of life, the duties and unity that come with this gift, and hints towards the somberness of eventual death. The second part may be the most chronological, but its themes are still timeless. It reminds us of what we are as animals, it pointd out the impact we have had, and acknowledges that life can be uggly. It defines us first through our need to conquer, but then by our desperate need to understand, despite that understanding being finite in scope and lastingness, ending in a grasp simultsineously for legacy and for simply existing. This ties into the final part, reminding us how lucky we are to have lived, there is nothing more to say about this part. It's just layers of that one realization.
@chrissturkenboom6080 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honest reaction. Art is subjective. It has always been. Looking at a painting it gives all of us a different feeling. We as humans are that way. Sometimes we are so wrong about the real meaning of it that we in reality need the creator of the art to explain it. That goes for literature etc too. I truly believe it would have been wise to know the story of this piece of music to fully understand it. I think you would have understood the music better what everything meant. The lyrics and music together are based Richard Dawkins evolution theory. I do understand that Nightwish is not meant for you. It isn't meant for everyone just, like the The Mona Lisa. It is famous but, a lot of people look at it and it doesn't do anything for them. I have to be honest to you and I think you won't mind due to the fact that you are honest too..... You are also looking at the composition in your own subjective way. You want to hear a certain composition but, it was composed according to the composer's fealings/meaning etc. You are also reminding me of my sister-in-law. When we go to a museum with certain art.... she will explain the art by; the colours, the way the paint stroke, the image etc and she ends with saying that the title should be different etc. To me it comes across that the critic that in a certain way is very subjective to what his/her personal taste is. That is why their are (Thank goodness) so many different styles/types of musical compositions etc. So every person has his own connection to the art form/feelings. May it be simple or complex. One thing is for sure, you are just like any other human, you understand/like certain musical compositions what you're personal preference is. Just like it is with me and everyone else. I have to correct you on one thing that is that Nightwish aren't made for everyone. I also understand why it is also a positive message. I have a personal experience because, I've been twice close to death due to the fact of being sick. Being saved by the love of good people around me like doctors, nurses, family etc I know how happy and lucky I am for being a life knowing that my niece wasn't that lucky. She died at the age of 32. Also knowing for a fact that we as people are lucky to be here (being "evil"/good, with likes and dislikes) experiencing a miscarriage. The reason why a lot of times musicians have backtrack etc like Nightwish have is that it is very difficult/expensive to your around with. If you know Andre Rieu you know the tickets are very expensive and therefore not affordable for people to buy because, it will be there whole paycheck for a month... That is me personally. I really do appreciate that you are honest about what you like in music and want to hear. Therefore I'm happy that their is music in the world for everyone. I like Nightwish, Epica, Metallica, BTS, Louis Armstrong and many more styles and respect them in their own right instead of trying to be them. Thank you again and stay honest. Warm greetings from The Netherlands 👍💜🍀🤘💪🇳🇱🌷🤗
@evaka Жыл бұрын
Hey Bryan! As much as I understand your approach and appreciate your review (really one of the most honest), you got recommendations for the most popular songs - that kind of implies that these are songs that have reached a wider audience and might be more palatable than their other songs :) it might have already been mentioned that each of their songs varies in style and some are not even considered "metal". I would recommend you to listen to a full studio version album. Thank you for your reaction :)
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
Great perspective. I've seen some recommendations for Human Nature and a few comments that Nightwish's older stuff might be a bit more my speed. So while these super popular tracks aren't my cup of tea, I haven't written off the band yet. If nothing else I stand by the idea that no matter who the band is there is probably at least 1 song in their discography that will totally work for my tastes.
@evaka Жыл бұрын
@@CriticalReactions Human Nature is definitely going in a different direction and I have two favorites on there (Procession and Endlessness) that will probably never be played live. You're right, on any album there is a high chance that you'll like at least one song :) enjoy your journey!
@Darlantan1 Жыл бұрын
Your lyrical analysis is an interesting take - a large part of the lyrical content, as well as the title of the song, is obviously lifted from Richard Dawkins' book The Greatest Show On Earth, so the views are mostly from that book. The last little bit that Dawkins spoke is a quote from Darwin's On The Origin Of Species, which includes the line "Endless Forms Most Beautiful", which is the name of the album this song was originally released on. Dawkins is obviously a very polarizing character, and his inclusion on this album and song alienated a lot of the christian listeners of Nightwish, especially in the states. The line for "how dare we whine at our inevitable return to that prior state" is especially curious to myself, as in addition to going against religious beliefs of afterlife (or varieties thereof), it also goes against many scientists in saying we're supposed to die or that death or aging itself is not a thing that can be "cured". You mentioned you didn't very much like how this scientific view of humanity as a concept is divorced of what humans have actually done. I'd highly recommend reading the book Sapiens - A brief history of Humankind by Yuval Noah Harari, in case you haven't already. It's a wonderful mixture of the two sides and a very good read.
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the book recommendation. I finished my last owned book last month and have been looking for something interesting to dig into. I'll check into that.
@strabel803 Жыл бұрын
Well, Nightwish is a european band and as europeans we have a very bad and long history with religion,so don't blame europeans that we are very critical about religion (a lot of europeans are).As a european we look at Americans with amazement and we see a lot of hypocritical things going on ,especially nower day's,where politics and religion is intertwined and so misused by the "right" side in the US.We also have maby some more trust in sience. And what do you mean that Dawkins is "polarizing",is "your's the only truth??Queen made a very nice song"Who want's to live forever? ". Maby listen (on youtube) to Christopher Hitchins ,he exposes a lot of the sanctimonious things of religion. By the way ,listen to "Weak fantasy" from Nightwish ,also a masterpiece about religion. Should we care what sanctimonious Americans think? It's funny that there is some discussion about Nightwish going "mainstream"here (making more popular music) ,than the first thing that you should not do is "making songs about religion and evolution".🤣
@sagebooker Жыл бұрын
So glad you discover this one ! Since I've discovered it myself, I've read Sir RIchard Dawkins 'books, and I keep on finding out some stuffs in this song I've not heard before, everytime I listen to this one.
Жыл бұрын
But Bryan....we were here. We created such beautiful things. We are still here. Warring, destroying, hating, but against all that, we're still here. Helping each other, loving, and creating. Trying to know more, to feel more, always trying, for better or worse. Anyway, I can understand your darker outlook tbh. x) I just feel strongly about this. Love. Your. Analysis. As always, honestly. I don't watch all your videos but I always appreciate them. This song is one of my fave epics, it always makes me Feel a lot (being there live must be Nuts), but I understand your criticism of the song and this band too. I think there might be something to it. I'm not a hardcore NW Army...ist, but I've loved their stuff for years and years now. They might be really trying to balance on being accessible and providing that complexity and genius composition that Tuomas and the others are capable of. For me, that always made them sympathetic and I really appreciate what they're doing. But then again I don't listen to so many diverse stuff as you. Very happy that you picked out the easter eggs too (I mean, naturally), I love that kind of stuff. x)
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
There's definitely something to this song -- it connects with a ton of people and the concert seemed to have very high emotional energy. I saw a couple of people in the front row of the video in tears. NW is doing something very, very right with this track and performance. And you're right the balancing complex music with accessibility (I wish I had thought of that word during the video) is a massive strength of theirs. I tried to speak about this as a positive but it seems that tone didn't get across in the video. Walking that extremely fine line of approachable but still complex is difficult already but they do with metal guitars and drumming as well -- sounds that most people will find a bit aggressive. It's no small feat to have accomplished what they have and I didn't want to diminish that at all.
Жыл бұрын
@@CriticalReactions Hey, for some hardcore fans, critiquers and reactors will always be "ripping apart" their fave band if they don't worship everything they do. I know I need to take time to chill out when I hear criticism of my loved musics. Like you said, lots of emotions are involved, so it's hard to return to an objective conversation about the music. Plus personal preferences and biases = you'll have a lot of "you're wrong!! and probably stupid!!" reactions. :D My "old Nightwish" recommendation is probably Once or Oceanborn if you ever get in the mood.
@sulevturnpuu5491 Жыл бұрын
It seems to me You as a composer have been fed the more grander and difficult pieces of Nightwish. You should check out the rest, more traditional rock songs that better explain the fan base. The 3 big are not the pieces that casual listener gets introduced to, those are graduating material.
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
Grander, yes. Difficult? I don't know about that one. Looking at this song specifically through the lens of music (purposefully disregarding the lyrics) it's not an overly complex song at all. It uses familiar structures (ABABCB), hooky riffs, and lots of pedal tones. It could be argued that it's a series of shorter traditional metal songs with atmospheric transitions and synth stingers -- and that's not a bad thing. I have heard that Nightwish does have challenging songs though, they just aren't the ones that get requested. Human Nature consistently gets brought up as does the albums Oceanborn and Wishmaster. I think the next time I visit them I'll be looking for the deep cuts rather than the popular choices and see if those resonate with me any better.
@MikkoRantalainen Жыл бұрын
1:11:05 I think the short condensation of evolution of music was used to represent how little time humans have been here relative to the life of the Earth or the Universe.
@viivi6776 Жыл бұрын
Interesting perspective
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
That's a great angle. I took it as a simple easter egg, despite how thematically appropriate it was, but I love how your interpretation leans even more into the themes of the song.
@MikkoRantalainen Жыл бұрын
@@CriticalReactions To really put it things into correct scale, the section for the whole history of human music should have lasted about 50 microseconds if the whole song represents the life of the known universe and things scale linearly. Of course, humans couldn't recognize anything from 50 microsecond sample even if it could be accurately represented in digital audio. (And for CD audio quality, that's about two samples of data, or 8 bytes, so it cannot represent history of music even in theory.)
@progrockplaylists Жыл бұрын
so many smooth transitions. completely professional
@JariJuslin Жыл бұрын
About the animal noises: while Nightwish has to have a backing track on many songs, they try to do everything live that they possibly can, if nothing else, samples on Tuomas' pad. And especially after Floor joined the band she's considered it a challenge accepted to try to move as many parts from tracks to live sounds as humanly possible.
@nathannadeau9081 Жыл бұрын
I have a question for you and I am very curious to know, I respect your choice not to like their songs so far but I would like to know your background and experience… may I know the name of your compositions? I would like to listen to some of your work.. please and thank you
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
I advertise my work both on my channel page and in the outro of videos. You can find it at www.youtube.com/@criticalcompositions
@kimmikke_ Жыл бұрын
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@hextatik_sound Жыл бұрын
Tampere version would have been so much better. I agree at 49:00 -> that it's more of a business decision rather than artistic.
@minimaltrace8 ай бұрын
I will never understand why this version is even allowed on youtube, Tampere version is the only one you ever need and it should be celebrated as such.
@CriticalReactions8 ай бұрын
Aside from the fact that preferring the Tampere performance is a subjective opinion and not an objective fact, one other great reason for having multiple versions of music available on KZfaq is for preservation. It is beyond important to document as much as possible with art since it's so easy for anything to be lost. This is doubly so for lesser known, or less preferred, arts as they'll more easily slip through the cracks of preservation and be lost to time.
@schout33 Жыл бұрын
In the history of music there was also a small part of mongolian throat singing. This whole section is more clearly in the studio version.
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
I figured I missed something since it was a rather short idea AND I caught onto the concept in the middle of it. Pretty cool that they got some of that in there as well since it's some of the earliest types of document western music.
@paulchapman2569 Жыл бұрын
Nightwish Army south Brittany France reporting, sorry I'm late. 3 songs I struggle with, The Poet and the Pendulum, dead boys poem and this, The Greatest Show on Earth. I find emotional. After the words "We Were Here" I tear up.
@metalzonereactions Жыл бұрын
Very brave to say they could've done it better, whoa! I don't agree with you on that one, I believe they struck an excellent balance here. Great reaction and review as always Bryan!
@justinvermilyea7640 Жыл бұрын
I see no problem with your review /reaction so far you're hitting the nail on the head
@robweber2509 Жыл бұрын
I think you'd have an easier time with the text of the song if you don't put humanity in the spotlight. Evolution is an important subject in the song and humans are but one twig in the tree of life, not the thing evolution aims for. Think big. The song is the story of the solar system from it's formation 4.6 billion years ago all the way into the future. 4.6: There is no life yet, the solar system is forming, some of the music could be interpreted as the collision of various celestial bodies forming the earth and the moon. The spoken word is a quote from one of Richard Dawkins books inserted just before we (life in general) wake up. Life: this section is partly about the formation of complex carbon based molecules, formation of DNA and cellular structures. The lonely farer in the goldilocks zone is the earth at just the right distance to the sun for liquid water and life to be possible. LUCA is the last universal common ancestor, the creature everything currently alive is descended from. The toolmaker. Here humanity comes in, but not only humans as in Homo Sapiens. Lucy is a reference to a famous australopithecine fossil. We blast through human history (and musical history) and eventually go extinct. From the text you could think it was by our own hand. Ratkind a reminder that we might be gone but life goes on. Understanding. The 'We are going to die' bit is another quote from a Dawkins book. Besides being a evolutionary biologist, Dawkins is also a very outspoken atheist. He does not believe that we will somehow go on after death. Not everybody will agree with me on this, but I see this quote as Dawkins saying that we should not be afraid to die but should be thankful for the time we are given (and preferably use it to further our understanding of the universe). Sea-Worn driftwood. This is the final paragraph from 'On the Origin of Species' by Charles Darwin. It reflects the mix of optimism and violence you mention in your analysis. I hadn't really thought of it that way. Natural selection is in a way wasteful an violent produces, as Darwin put it, endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful. There is so much science in these lyrics I could go on for quite a while but I don't want to bore anyone ;)
@gene6690 Жыл бұрын
Hearing a reaction and analysis from professional music composers as yourself is most refreshing and appreciated. Being a metal fan (Not thrash Metal) of bands like the great Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, AC-DC, Heart, KISS , Metalica, etc, there is nothing that has connected with me emotionally, as Nightwish has, especially with Floor. 🤘🤘🤘🤘
@monicacarolina6480 Жыл бұрын
Metallica is (was) trashmetal sir, like megadeath, slayer and anthrax :/
@billionsandbillionsofstarsАй бұрын
The Greatest Show on Earth is the title of one of Richard Dawkins book. It’s about evolution of life on our pale blue dot.
@sagebooker Жыл бұрын
oh I've juste read the comments below and I don't understand this underlying aggressiveness. As a fan of Nightwish myself, I considered noone is a specialist of their building and composing except the band members. No one owns the truth. I'm always interested in hearing a different point of view and I appreciate a different step back to see things in another way. But am I impartial ? I like very much all your reacts too ^^
@chrisdavis408 Жыл бұрын
Well the creation of the universe and life is kinda large, and I suppose bombastic as u say . Or maybe not... up to ur interpretation. And random classical riffs mixed with enter sandman from Metallica, fits the narrative of the story. All our accomplishments, our Beaty, poetry, music, life , and we were here. Then enter sandman. All things come to an end. So just fits and a nod to another iconic band.
@Skabbe1 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, just a note on the first movement (i.e. 4 point 6) and the instrumentals there. And I might as well preface this by saying this is all my interpretation, I haven't tried to look into the actual "canon" of it. Anyways, I would assume the 4.6 is in reference to the creation of earth 4.6 billion years ago seeing as 4.6B is roughly the generally accepted age of the earth. And relating to that I just assumed that those two percussive "bangs" during the intrumental intro before the first spoken parts represent the creation of earth and then the moon. I suppose in strictly scientific terms the creation of earth probably wouldn't have been so much a bang as a very drawn out rumble but I think we can afford a bit of artistic license there. The creation of the moon on the other hand most certainly would have been a loud bang if the leading hypothesis is correct, i.e. that earth was hit by a planetoid which threw a bunch of dust into an orbit around earth, which gravity then solidified into the moon. And just to dip a little bit into the rest of the song, there's a lot of wording taken of biology in the song that hints at the rough chronology of the song. Archaea are single celled organisms, so coming right after the formation of the planet this would be the primordial soup where life was created. Followed later by LUCA, the Last Universal Common Ancestor of all life on earth. And then comes the part I can't quite reconcile in terms of chronology (again, this is all my interpretation so I might be completely wrong for all I know) with the part about ion channels. To me that would be lightning, which is preceded by a channel of ionized air that conducts the actual lightning strike as we see it, and lightning has been hypothezied as being one of the "ingredients" for the creation of life. So to me it makes perfect sense in the context of the song but it should obviously come before LUCA. Anyways that's it for me, and just in case, I'm a not a biologist so preeemtive mea culpa in case any of the details are off. Oh and you might like some of the stuff from their latest album Human Nature, it's a bit more "experimental" and decidedly less mainstream for the most part. Including an entire second disc (remember those?) with only instrumental tracks. Edit: oh and just about the live vs studio thing, and again only speaking for myself, the reason I generally prefer live versions are threefold. For one there are many older songs that they've redone a fair bit along the years as they've picked up new members and gotten bigger (i.e. more resources). For their first three albums they didn't have a permanent male singer at all for example, or an actual professional orchestra doing the classical bits for that matter. Secondly while I am a fan from the olden days I do prefer Floor over both Tarja and Anette so if I want to hear anything other than the last two albums with her it's gotta be live. And thirdly it might just be a personal quirk of mine but even as a purely aural experience I just prefer good live recordings. Emphasis on "good", I'll still take a studio version over some live recording that sounds like someone recorded it on their iPhone, or where there band/audience interaction is garbage.
@TheSyncos Жыл бұрын
I think the reverence and wonder is not about the human race in general but isolated to the individual level. The odds of you as a person being born is so astronomical, considering all of the elements that needed to line up over millions of years to make it happen. You and I should be proud. We were here. In fact this song speaks to the destructive nature of humans. And how once we destroy ourselves, (which is an innevitability in the song) only the rats will be left.
@ilkkak3065 Жыл бұрын
I think your feel might come from that they needed to shorten song to make it fit into album. So it's possible some short breaks and so on were changed. If I remember correct first demo was douple as long.
@sagebooker Жыл бұрын
On the multimedia 's side, you can watch this year Hellfest gig, which is very sober : this way, it shows much of every member quality, especially on "Shoemaker"
@jerkkola81 Жыл бұрын
You should listen Tuomas's solo project, a soundtrack for Don Rosa's Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck (a comicbook soundtrack). You can hear it's composed by Tuomas, but it's very different from Nightwish.
@ErikGrimms Жыл бұрын
Lotta good thoughts. As for the awkward introduction with the stingers that you remarked on, it's the birth of Earth. The quiet early days are interrupted by the bombardment from space that seeds the planet with water and so many other things before going back to the calm quiet of the Earth at rest until things settle down. The person who requested it and thought it would be a bad idea to let you know the basics messed up I think. The live recording from Tampere does a better job of representing this track than the official live as well in my opinion with fireworks synchronized to the stingers representing the heavy bombardment. As a spectacle it's marvelous I find. I was a huge Nightwish fan back in the 2000s and have drifted away and grown as a listener and don't listen to them a whole lot these days. This track, however, never fails to get to me. Especially the climax with all the diverse faces of humanity stating "We were here". There's a lot of references to Richard Dawkins' work as well as it was a huge inspiration for the album this track is from. One for instance is "Ratkind", something Dawkins mentions as a possibility for what might come next after humanity wipes itself out. As for lack of cohesion you might have a point. It may be that Toumas had an idea and forced it a bit too much. Not doing what's best for the song because he wanted to make a certain point. Also, you kept saying millions, the song covers 4.5 billion years of history so yeah, ambitious, too ambitious haha.
@ErikGrimms Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of the confusion you had on initial listen could have been alleviated if you knew that the song was about Earth from 4.5 billion years ago up until current day and even into the future so yeah, I think the requester messed up.
@ErikGrimms Жыл бұрын
You even talk about the spectacle haha. While I think every album stands on its own musically I do think that they've leaned more into the live spectacle with time and it's something I really enjoy because it amplifies the music. I still think the album Once is peak Nightwish for me and that was before Floor and before I really got into live music. Toumas really cares about the "whole package" so to speak, they even made a movie musical called Imaginaerum.
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
A lot of people are pointing me towards (I think) a very recent album of Nightwish, Human Nature, but given your comment about them leaning more and more into live spectacle over time I think I'd actually be more interested in older Nightwish.
@ErikGrimms Жыл бұрын
@@CriticalReactions this gave me a thought (that nightwish diehards might wanna crucify me for but whatever) and it's: Toumas has definitely gotten better as a writer but with increased ability comes greater ambition and more of an opportunity to miss the mark. Another option is complacency cuz you think you're "so good" or "a metal Mozart" (I've seen many call him that) and you instead phone it in cuz you're high on your own supply. Or like I previously mentioned you have another goal and the music is secondary or tertiary. Early Nightwish IS simpler and in some ways more fun. Stargazers and Gethsemane from the Oceanborn album are great examples, the album Once is in the middle and it's where Ghost Love Score is from, last album with Tarja. I think their cover of phantom of the opera is really enjoyable but again, it's easily digestible pop. My favorite song of theirs is Poet and the Pendulum I think.
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
@@ErikGrimms Something I was turned onto in this comment section was that it's possible that Tuomas felt the need to "prove" himself in his younger years and is now just having fun these days. It sort of piggy backs on your idea of "phoning it in" on recent albums but takes a more positive spin to it. Kind of like metal retirement -- less effort and stress but still enjoying your time left and keeping active.
@lorgrenbenirus Жыл бұрын
It's about universe being born, through explosions, collisions, through fire and smoke. The elevating tunes signalling that something is forming from all of this mess, something beautiful (in the end), but it is formed through and by an absolute chaos.
@chriswellman2244 Жыл бұрын
You didn't know what was going on because you went into it with a closed mind and closed ears
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
I spent twice as long as the song itself explaining all of the cool things that they did musically, exploring the lyrics and how those themes lined up with their musical ones, and praising their ability to put together a song that resonated with sooooo many people -- but sure, I had a closed mind going in.
@justinvermilyea7640 Жыл бұрын
@@CriticalReactions I don't think you ever have a closed mind Brian there's a looooot going on in this song you'll have to spend more time with it give it a few spins or whatever without the video if you like the song I prefer romanticide myself
@rynnziolkowski4642 Жыл бұрын
I can't remember what live show it was, but there is a far better live version with very accurately times pyro during the opening section, really hammers home the birth of the universe
@wanmac31 Жыл бұрын
This one is Wembley-15, and that bigger wersion was Tampere-15 🇫🇮🤘😊👍💙
@rynnziolkowski4642 Жыл бұрын
@@wanmac31 ty ty, tbh nightwish has waaaaaaay too many amazing live shows it's hard to keep track which performance is which, they are all so good
@Ithirahad Жыл бұрын
I get the sense that you might not be revisiting these guys, but if you do, let me put in a request for a track from their latest album, Human:||:Nature, called "Pan". Among others on that album, it feels like a use of compositional skill and technical acumen to a point more closely approaching the extent that Tuomas might be capable of. That album overall seems to have been divisive among fans but I enjoy it more than any others I've heard so far.
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
I will continue to check them out as long as there are new songs to experience. I will never write a band off unless I've exhausted their works as I believe every band has at least 1 song that I'll wholeheartedly enjoy. But even past that, I like listening to Nightwish. They're a creative band with great musicians and it's a joy to check them out even if the music bounces off of me.
@dougmphilly Жыл бұрын
its more prog than metal
@cashedrites Жыл бұрын
You must have the lyrics going for this song to understand the full scope
@Zuron9 ай бұрын
I was very critical of this song when I first heard it. It felt pretentious, and dare I say, even cringe. Sure, after a few listens, I was able to catch all the references and nuances, put it in context, saw the amazing Tampere live performance, and then I started to like it. But the "greatest show" shouldn't require all that for me to appreciate it.
@eliza.rose.morrison8 ай бұрын
That's just you. I felt the opposite way from the very first listen. ✌
@ilkkak3065 Жыл бұрын
Most prefer live ones cause they prefer Floor as singer. And there aren't so many studio versions in KZfaq. But here is one If you want to React it Nightwish - 7 Days to The Wolves (album versio audio only) kzfaq.info/get/bejne/l7GVf5tksay5g6M.html
@grantharriman284 Жыл бұрын
The metallica homage was "Enter Sandman". Enter (insert thing) is a recurring line in the song. Enter LUCA, Enter Mankind, Enter Ratkind, the guitar got in on that through line with Enter Sandman.
@ilkkak3065 Жыл бұрын
Enter Sandman was followed by Darude - Sandstorm.
@catalinanavarretem.9615 Жыл бұрын
Personally I prefer live shows cause they are so much better live than in studio and not because of their visual aids. It's the power they put in their shows and Floor's voice. Also, the band has got 3 singers and the 2nd singer wasn't great doing live performances. But if you prefer trying studio version it's up to you so you can have another insight of this band and with the other singers (Tarja was /is majestic live and in studio)
@justinvermilyea7640 Жыл бұрын
Love the shirt I'm old too 😂😸👿🤘👿🤘
@progperljungman8218 Жыл бұрын
As much as I'm thrown off by some of the Nightwish fans' fanatism I do recognise this as one of their quite enjoyable tracks. It's truly adventurous and imaginative although I'm not keen on that overblown pompousness that seems inevitable with them.
@StarStuffGal321 Жыл бұрын
Overblown pompousness is the last words I would use to describe Nightwish. So not only is it not inevitable it is wholly inaccurate, in my humble opinion.
@progperljungman8218 Жыл бұрын
@@StarStuffGal321 "Overblown" is an opinion if course. "Pompous" is a description of the style frequently used in symphonic and power metal that often throws me off completely. Not this time though 🙂
@grantharriman284 Жыл бұрын
A large part of what sets Nightwish apart to me is how they reject the limitations most music works within. Very few bands would even consider making a 20 minute magnum opus like this.
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
I think that's the framework I'm missing here. I keep hearing how Nightwish is "the best" or "boundary pushing" but never with the caveat of mainstream music. Even your comment says "reject the limitations 'most' music works within" and that seems a bit loaded to me. A 20 minute song isn't uncommon in classical music, something that's obviously an inspiration for Nightwish. As far as chordal structures, song structures, musical ideas, and general complexity the few songs I've heard from Nightwish are all rather genre conforming as far as lengthy rock/metal epics go. Now maybe some of their less popular songs are more complex, and I've heard that Human Nature is a drastically different album from everything I've heard of theirs, but so far my experience with them hasn't exactly been "genre bending" nor "rule breaking." What they do very well though is balance complexity with accessibility, which is no small feat at all and a ridiculous tight rope act to continuously succeed at song after song after song. That's not to say that Nightwish never pushes boundaries, but their rejection of boundaries is, from my experience, such a small part of their composition technique. If you want to hear some music that rejects limitations I highly urge you to explore free jazz, 20th Century Classical (specifically look for modernism, minimalism, expressionist, or post-modernism), early prog rock (check out bands like Colloseum II, Yes, King Crimson), or anything in the avant-garde and experimental realms of music. Most people will find those styles of music to be....well, "not music" but they're a fantastic way to explore the very edges of musical exploration. And again, none of this is to say that Nightwish isn't as good or as "rule breaking" as other bands -- it's not a gatekeeping situation -- but it's always important to expand one's understanding in all aspects of life so they can more accurate assess the art around them.
@grantharriman284 Жыл бұрын
@@CriticalReactions Jazz is something I have dabbled in and never found purchase with. Minimalism, while interesting, does not suit my tastes. I tend more towards the bombastic, Bartok, Chaikovsky, John Mackie... oh, right, metal. Bartok is arguably an early pioneer of "not music". A common thread I find in talking to other Nightwish fans is that those who dive headlong into the nightwish army tend to favor the less mainstream songs of their catalogue. I love their folk metal influence in songs such as Elan and Islander. I still enjoy pop-esq songs like Amaranth, but get thoroughly lost in the woods of my own imagination when I put on My Walden.
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
It's good to know there's gems to be found outside of the popular selections. I'm glad I've had a chance to listen to their 3 or 4 big ones but now I'm interested in digging into their deep cuts.
@grantharriman284 Жыл бұрын
@@CriticalReactions I wish you great enjoyment in your many and varied listenings
@Wywernywin Жыл бұрын
Very nice to hear critical opinions on the song, and all of them valid points. If I were to argue with something though, it would be the assessment about what humanity has done "during medieval era" etc. News, history books, they only tend to cover large events - and often those are violent, that is true. But choosing to focus on that alone foregoes everything good we do in our everyday lives. The positive things we do to one another for no benefit to ourselves, and that are so ingrained into our behaviour that indeed, they often are not consciously thought of as something that also happens.
@wendykerkhof8691 Жыл бұрын
ps; if they dont click for you...please stop reacting to them ;)
@thathorridthing Жыл бұрын
You have a daycare next door or is it's you're kids we hear? 😂
@CriticalReactions Жыл бұрын
It's a rarity, but yeah that was my kid and niece playing. Schools were out in my around of the world. You'll notice a rare hard cut in the video around that point too -- I had to ask them bring the volume down just a bit 😄
@thathorridthing Жыл бұрын
@@CriticalReactions hahaha wish i could cut those parts out my life. Got a 2y and a 6y old both boys. 😂
@lou7041 Жыл бұрын
And here we are, its finally happening !
@theoldlaw8669 Жыл бұрын
what is the device that the guitar player use at the beginning to make it sound like a cello
@xdrezcorex Жыл бұрын
E-Bow
@justdave9610 Жыл бұрын
The E-bow has a magnet which will cause the string it's held over to vibrate and resonate continuously for however long you want as long as it's held in position
@rolandconnor57511 ай бұрын
I only watch Nightwish (with Floor) reactions now.
@aura5572 Жыл бұрын
"bigger than life" is exactly what it is about
@wendykerkhof8691 Жыл бұрын
why dont you stop the video when you give comments? For me (Netherlands) its difficult to hear what you say because you talk throught the music
@madwelshbiker3710 Жыл бұрын
there are reasons you have been fed music with broad appeal. you are an outsider with their own preference in music. the tracks sent to you are trying to show you that they have all this and more. nightwish's back catalogue has more specialist music that would be less appealing - unless you know that it is complex and multi-faceted. this is shown to you in the overview and recommended playlist Nightwish's fanbase have their own preference be it the frontwoman singing (they have had 3, all with their own style) the style (there are heavy metal tracks, folk or Celtic-themed tracks explore their back catalogue. they will have something you will connect with
@VivK-Real Жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed your analyzis on GSOE. And I understand why NW is not "your cup of tea". For me NW is exception from the rule, kind of 😂 As a Finn, I have been listening (and loving) NW pretty much from the start/ first (demo) album, despite me liking much heavier, darker music (now metal core/ deathcore/ black metal) NW still is my forever love. But as I said, it's not for everybody, and that's a good thing. It would be boring if everybody likes the same things. Matter of the taste 👍 I will follow your channel, really liked what you did here 😁 Cheers
@martinklaus2203 Жыл бұрын
I think the Tampere 2015 version is more epic than this one. Still very well done. You couldn't pick up the pauses between movements? I am pretty well versed in music, but it doesn't take anyone well versed in music to pick up on the pauses/change between movements. I think your analysis on that is very off.
@hanssanders1945 Жыл бұрын
without any background this song is difficult to understand. You need to have the lyrics to it and the fantasy to go with the development of planet earth and its inhabitants, painted in music.