"How do I come to terms with the fact that this is the same band who made 43% burnt?" This is the beauty of Dillinger Escape Plan lol

Also that's great to see you pointed out the circus riff, fun fact for some Dillinger fans too, they actually do that riff a total of 5 (that I know of) times throughout their Discog. Their very first song ever on the LP had it and their first song on their last album had it with a few songs in between. Cool little trope they stuck with haha.

You should listen to the studio version whenever you have time. It's miles better than this live recording

Nice this is one of my favorite DEP songs! I think you'd be really surprised by how much softer music they have put out. One of Us is the Killer, Unretrofied, and Parasitic Twins are basically straight rock songs. Greg Puciato is, in my view, one of the best all around vocalists. His singing voice is actually beautiful!

You should check out the DEP song Black Bubblegum. You mentioned Deftones and it reminded me I saw Dillinger with Deftones.

One of my favourite songs of theirs. They do have a couple of songs that are slower and more melodic like this one, and they always nail it, making a more conventional, catchy song that still sounds interesting and breaks with conventions. From their 2nd album onward they seem to sprinkle a handful of tracks like these on each of their albums, and they're always highlights for me. That is not to say I dislike their fast chaotic stuff, but in between the more conventional songs they often feel almost like palette cleansers. They disorient you, basically blast your head clean off, and then when a song like this one comes along, it feels even more satisfying to get something easier to grasp to hold on to. In that way, I guess tracks like these helped me appreciate their chaotic sound a lot more. Some recommendations if you want more songs like that, "Setting Fire To Sleeping Giants", "Unretrofied", "Black Bubblegum", "Milk Lizard", "Chinese Whispers", "Parasitic Twins", "One of Us is the Killer", "Nothing's Funny", "Symptoms of Terminal Illness", "Nothing to Forget"

I would say DEP have 2 types of songs, they have their classic style very chaotic, fast paced, straight up math-core songs (like 43% Burnt and 70% of their catalogue) and they have those special songs, that sound like prog rock with many other influences, these songs are usually longer, with some pretty epic chorus just like the song you've witnessed. Other songs of this kind are: Unretrofied, Black Bubblegum, Milk Lizard, Dead as History, Mouth of Ghosts, One of Us is the Killer, Nothing's Funny (i'm forgetting some others).

The riff face you make at 4:15! Perfect.

I recommend re-listening to the song Widower, from the same album as this track. That has a lot of cleans and piano flourishes. You also did a reaction to that song a while ago.

They use 'circus riff' also in the mullet burden at about 1:40, i thinks its funny and a clever wtf curveball at the right time

The fact that this is live is even more mind blowing

Absolutely love this song! While this live version is sick, the studio version is much clearer so listening to that one might help you digest it better. This song is exactly why TDEP is still the best mathcore band ever. They can go crazy with songs like 43% Burnt or Sunshine the Werewolf, but they can also write great hooks in songs like this. As the albums progressed they also got much better at blending chaos and catchy hooks into single songs instead of having cleaner and heavier songs. Moments like these are what make it possible to listen to an entire 40 min album of theirs without going crazy. Everyone knows them for their insanity, but these guys are so much more than that.

I would recommend a mathcore/sludge metal/noise rock band called "Today Is the Day" and their song "Black Dahlia", (If you want something weirder and more varied, check out their song "Death Requiem".) Dillinger Escape Plan has cited then as a major influence as well as converge, They also had the drummer and guitarist of mastodon in the band on their 1999 album. vocalist/guitarist Steve Austin (The only consistent member of the band which is fraught with lineup changes on almost every album) is known for his pretty experimental work that is often disturbing, covering topics of mental illness, drug abuse, other forms of abuse and violence, and all around a lot of pretty messed up stuff and the music sonically reflects that pretty well. You may not like it because the man loves his dissonance but I think it would be really interesting to hear your take on the ideas at play in his music and its connection to bands like Dillinger and Converge.

They first used that cheeky circus riff on their 1998 track "The Mullet Burden" (Under the Running Board EP which was just before Calculating Infinity was released). This track doesn't have it usually, nor does it have some of the guitar soloing that this live version has.

Just thought I'd mention that the "stereotypical circus theme" does have a name. It's from the piece "Entry of the Gladiators" by Julius Fučík. It really does show up in a lot of weird places in metal, this is not the first time I've heard it, and I am not at all surprised that DEP decided to throw it into a guitar solo. For example, the ending to Universal Mind by Liquid Tension Experiment.

This is my wife's favorite D.E.P. track, also this is a live version. The circus part isn't on the studio track. I agree, to listening to Widower or Crossburner. They are totally inspired by Bungle, Mike Patton sang on an one of their E.P.s.

I think I've said my piece on DEP many times before: lots of admiration for their talent and originality, but I struggle to enjoy them. It's actually their songs like this that I find myself enjoying more, where they mix their off-the-wall, kinetic, chaotic, mathy riffing and energy with more hooky and groovy sections. This is probably what I'd call their "middle" period. Their first album was all mathcore chaos. Their second had a few nods towards more mainstream styles, but not much. With their third album (Ire Works) they had their first genuine quasi-pop song in Milk Lizard. Option Paralysis was the album after Ire Works, and they released two more albums after that. As for how common these more mainstream-friendly works are in DEP... I'd say not terribly uncommon, but probably in the minority in the context of their work. Maybe 20-30% of their songs are like this? Rough guess there. Another good word for the "opposite of verbose" is laconic.

Great to see you finally checked this song out !

The entire Option Paralysis album made me fall in love with DEP. And I very much disliked mathcore beforehand.

Here is an interview excerpt with the vocalist about the lyrics (from an annotation on Genius): “Gold Teeth on a Bum is about people having their priorities in the wrong places. People think it’s a joke title but it’s actually a very literal title for a lot of the meanings. I live in LA now and I’ve never seen such superficial people in my life that have their priorities all wrong, people who can’t feed their kids driving around in Lexus' or bums asking for change with gold teeth and that literally happened to me some bum came up to me with a mouth full of legitimate gold teeth asking me for money. It was just weird to me this guy’s asking for money but he’s got thousands of dollars worth of teeth in his mouth… All this ‘stuff’ is creating this very style over substance atmosphere in everything. LA had to do with a lot of my observations on those topics because that place is just a fucking cesspool of superficiality in a lot of ways man.”

Dillinger was everything, everywhere, all at once.

I am surprised that this song is considered not popular among their repertory, since is one of my favs of all time.

Would love to see you react to Baby's First Coffin, one of my personal favourite Dillinger songs

What makes TDEP such an amazing band isn't just their creativity or technical prowess, but also their stylistic range. They're masters of their craft, all of them, and can perform exceptionally in a wide range of styles and of varying intensity. Personally I find their heavier stuff to be more interesting and engaging (Especially Calculating Infinity, everything else sounds boring for awhile after I listen through that record), but I love basically everything they've ever done. I will say though, that they are an acquired taste for most people (especially their heavier stuff), but are hugely rewarding if you give the music a chance to really sink in and gain some familiarity with their extremity.

Don't know about others, but for me this was a pretty early discovery from them and I adored it right from the start. Glad you liked it too Bryan.

Keep in mind my friend 🤔DEP was discovered BY MIKE PATTON-Mr.Bungle.... TO THE VERY DEGREE MIKE PATTON 🤔UM 🤷🏻‍♂️ONLY WANTED TO RECORD AN ENTIRE EP WITH THEM 👌The singer for DEP is heavily influenced by Patton 🙏 You definitely should check out DEP featuring Mike Patton 🙏🙏🙏

Would love to see your face when listening something off their last record Dissociation, like "Symptom of Terminal Illness". Can't believe that's the same band that released albums like Calculating Infinity and Miss Machine 10-15 years earlier.

I used to gig with them during the Dimitri Years of 97-99

Love this song and album.

woohooo , another DEP vid!

They headlined the first show I ever watched, the first day I ever smoked, in 2000. Was def an experience.

This is a live recording and i was in that crowd lol. Listen to the studio recording, it sounds so much better.

Ahh my favourite circus-metal band tDEP \m/

This is the "modern" era TDEP 😀 they changed alot actually with their og drummer leaving (Pennie).

I recommend doing the album Irony is a Dead Scene if you haven't, it's only 4 tracks, but it has Mike Patton of Mr. Bungle and Faith No More on vocals, just an insane album.

Try "Clip the Apex, Accept Instruction"

I recommend the song Crossburner. And if you want chaotic Hero of the Soviet Union

I think Ween is a group you should be diving into. Spice things up in the best way possible!

OK dude save yourself some time and energy start with their 1st demo with the purple weird doll on it the circus music that will make sense later if not start with UNDER THE RUNNING BOARD thEN CALCULATING Infinity then the Mike Patten work with The album IRONY IS A DEAD SCENE HENCE the introduction of Greg Puciato with Miss Machine. IRE WORKS OPTION PARALYSIS ONE OF US IS THE KILLER and the last album the DISSOCIATION you have to listen to them all in order it makes much better sense

Dude, Mathcore, one not what we called it, most of us knew theory or anything Wenwere just crazy Spazz Metal guys who loved Converge. Noone thought that hard we just nent nuts and did whatever we want

Gotta say this live recording does not do this song justice, sounds so much better on the album. If you want more melodic/groovy Dillinger rather than their usual style, Milk Lizard or One of Us is the Killer are two awesome ones from them. The album this one comes off of Option Paralysis is an absolutely incredible album in general as well. Also, haven't dropped this request in a hot minute, because blowing up youtubers with requests makes me feel needy and annoying, but I still think you need to check out Black Crown Initiate eventually, one of the best modern prog bands today, if you want to see why they exploded almost overnight you have to listen to their EP Song of the Crippled Bull, one 20 min song split into 4 parts. Though if thats a bit much because of copyright or what have you, some really good standalone songs are Belie The Machine, or Trauma Bonds.

*Math stuff*

Just want to state the obvious as any true fan already knows, the band is simply NOT the same as the one that created 43% Burnt and the band replaced every member except for the lead guitarist throughout the years it was active.

miss machine gets absolutely no love....

I still haev respect for those guys because they are capable of releasing an album such as Calculating infinty. BUT...Irony is a Dead Scene made me want to vomit...there new stuff will probably be lame too. we'll see