Comprehensible Input - Stephen Krashen is a Genius?

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Comprehensible input: Stephen Krashen has been a leading voice in education for over 40 years. He coined the term "comprehensible input" which is about giving students engaging, comprehensible content and getting them to read it on their own.
In this video, he explains why we should never underestimate the power of comprehension and how reading and listening with meaning can make all the difference in learning!
He talks about why understanding foundries are critical for language acquisition. It has been found that the use of extensive and intensive reading methods is needed to promote a person's language development. "One of the most important things that I learned is this: people get very little from what they hear or read unless it has meaning for them," Krashen says in his talk at an International Reading Association conference.
It was also found that reading must be accompanied by comprehension if you want to make any real progress in learning a language.
Krashen says that "comprehensible input" is the key to improve one's knowledge of languages and should be used first before any other method, such as intensive reading or writing exercises. The Refold method and Migaku give you more details on the topic. How To Master Any Language: Comprehensible Input
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Timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
2:05 What is Comprehensible Input?
3:21 Studying vs Acquiring
4:15 Input vs Output
4:53 Examples of CI
6:25 Extensive vs Intensive Input
7:58 Does Inputting Really Work?

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@amiothenes 3 жыл бұрын

Comprehending comprehensible input is easy, but applying it is harder. Check this video on efficiently applying the idea: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/oOBdlcWAu7KWj3k.html Have there been any words or phrases that have caused you trouble learning your new language? Write it in the comments! I'm very interested!

@richardhartung1576 3 жыл бұрын

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@amiothenes 2 жыл бұрын

@@pujanpujan7134 Anywhere! Anything your interesting in search in German on KZfaq or the web. I love watching Ultralativ and Karambolage

@screamtoasigh9984 2 жыл бұрын

@@pujanpujan7134 also join a German language discord server. Discord language servers are really helpful. Not the generalised ones but the language specific ones.

@Chuugokujin Жыл бұрын

@@amiothenes it seems like your favourite hobby is to plagiarize other people’s work

@rezagrans1296 8 ай бұрын

@amiothenes I hiyly kredit an'& uhproooWv yur freyzing uv, thu owvur fOrmil skoowil, (klasroom or book chradishinil) methudz uv langwij lurning az •hed nalij• egzakly they teyk sumthing wich in fakd shoubbee teechd or deminsdreysid to lurnurz leydur an (sumthing much analydikıl*) doĝuDa*, an'& beegin or fors it an them frum 1sd munth lololo Auffiedurszheyn ; )🦉

@mendicius_jade 2 ай бұрын

I learned Spanish for 10 years to no avail, then someone introduced me to comprehensible input 4 years ago and my progress skyrocketed. I am now in a level where I no longer have problems conversing with someone in Spanish.

@KalangooVoador 9 ай бұрын

The way to apply Stephen Krashen's method is to read easy-to-understand books and watch easy-to-understand videos. Gradually you increase the difficulty level; there's no use going straight to a podcast where you won't understand almost anything. When you start from the basics, you understand little by little, it's impossible not to learn.

@patfromamboy 9 ай бұрын

I’ve been studying Portuguese for 9 years now and I’ve visited Brasil 18 times but I still can’t read or converse. I practice every day with my girlfriend who only speaks Portuguese and we’ve been practicing for 6 years now but I still can’t understand her. I have to translate everything into English, even basic words. I can’t learn Portuguese words like I learn English words. It’s very frustrating.

@rezagrans1296 8 ай бұрын

@patfrommamboy Suhloowshin preceudo`s resa Iz •yoowz audiyo book• sEe thu texd seym tiym az u lisin it, hav uh chranzeyshin uv muhteeryil in inglish but dont fixeyd an this urly into prases; ripeet uh short sekshin syklikly--> thu akwiyring hapinz subkanshiyusly (much uv it) 🦓🦧🦍

@rezagrans1296 8 ай бұрын

@nandovascon9004 Even padkasd kin bee helpful if u slowen thu sbeed an'& fowkis an riyding expreshinz an'& kampownd freysiz that ar mor undursdandibil -liydurLevil ; ) 🐽👀🐷

@patfromamboy 8 ай бұрын

@@rezagrans1296 I can’t understand what you wrote. Thanks

@patfromamboy 8 ай бұрын

I can’t find anything that I can understand, I have to translate everything into English. I’ve been studying Portuguese for 9 years now and I’ve visited Brasil 18 times but I haven’t had a conversation yet even though I practice every day with my girlfriend who only speaks Portuguese and we’ve been practicing for 6 years now. The Portuguese words don’t seem to mean anything to me until I translate them into English. It’s very frustrating.

@user-jd9sj1mq2b 2 жыл бұрын

The largest reason I became fluent in english was that I watched tons of movies and tv-series with subtitles in my native language and then compared what was said to the subtitle. Only works if you are able to have the discipline to listen first and then try to read the text and not go straight for the subtitle and not paying attention to what is said.

@somethingfromthere9777 2 жыл бұрын

Could please answer my question Does your way of learning helps you speaking without repeating phrases again and again? Thank you

@user-jd9sj1mq2b 2 жыл бұрын

@@somethingfromthere9777 If you can write, you can speak for the most part. What people struggle with the most during speak is coming up with words on the fly and pronunciation. By writing in your target language you'll get over most of the hurdle. Pronunciation will come in due time. Peoples obsession with speaking is weird, they are so eager to talk even when they have nothing of importance to say. Imagine someone knowing zero english came up to you and started talking english with only a few english phrases, you'd probably appreciate the effort at first, but it gets old and boring really fast. If you can't make up sentences on the fly, it's too damn early to speak, nobody cares about your baby talk. Chances are that speaking early will only create bad habits that are near to impossible to iron out later on.

@nicoleraheem1195 Жыл бұрын

@@user-jd9sj1mq2b I agree with you. People are eager to talk. I've met foreigners who felt they were fluent in English and didn't need correction with their pronunciation just because they had learned English in four years and had an English degree. They were quicker to respond than listen and often missed the point. They didn't understand nuances, pop culture jokes from comedians, or internet slang. I vowed to not speak more than I listen in every language that I learned because I don't want to be this ignorant.

@iuofsdg848t5jgf 9 ай бұрын

I have learned English the same way, but without actually trying. I never wanted to learn, but once I realized I knew English and could actually speak. It's been at least 12-14 years since I speak English fluently. English is the main language of the company I work for now, and it's not unusual for me to get complimented for my pronunciation. I repeat - I have never tried to learn English. Once I realized it, I knew it. It was the same with my brother; we acquired English through subtitles, music, and such.

@iuofsdg848t5jgf 9 ай бұрын

Btw, when I said "I never wanted to learn" it's not as if I was against it. It was that I never planned to. It just happened.

@FrankKimono744 7 ай бұрын

As for communication skills I learn whole sentences saying them aloud. 5 days - 300 repetitions per day at least. Later I don't need to translate. I know the meaning of words straight away like in my native language. And also I remember the meaning longer than by learning separate words. This method is called: chunking. It was a real game changer in my learning process in English and other languages.😊

@JohnTravolta-du5eb 3 ай бұрын

Could you explain it in details - what the sentences, how many sentences, etc?

@FrankKimono744 3 ай бұрын

@@JohnTravolta-du5eb Correctly built sentences according to grammar or parts of them. Pairs of words, 3 words together etc. Repetition aloud to practice pronounciation. Example: one sentence (or part of it) 300 times a day for 5 days minimum. General rule: never learn single, separate words without a context as they are difficult to remember and later there is a problem with putting them together into a sentence during a conversation. Best are short sentences or pieces of text like 4-5 words. You need to choose which sentences are the most useful for you and which to learn. May be some sentences from each part of grammar. For example 5 sentences from conditionals, 5 from present perfect etc. You can also use tongue twisters. Another idea: learn titles of youtube videos. A sentence is connected with image and situation. When you learn a new word find a simple sentence in a dictionary. Try to associate words and sentences with situations like in real life. The whole idea of repetiton is to create automatic responses to avoid situation that you think for half an hour how to build a sentence during a conversation and people just walk away because you are to slow in responding. I took that idea from practicing martial arts when they repeat one technique for example 100-1000 times at one go to develop automatic responses and reactions. Similar happens in language or any other type of learning. The more you repeat the better you are.

@drewcudiamat9078 3 жыл бұрын

Your content is so high quality! I hope more language learning youtubers will be like this

@davidbrisbane7206 9 ай бұрын

I learnt French at school for seven year, but because I was forced to learn it, clearly, I'd want to forget it as fast as I could. I can say, I managed that task with honours.

@dontthrow6064 8 ай бұрын

my theory is that you can't force your brain to memorize something for a longer period than you are convinced it is necessary.

@CeraziPRO 8 ай бұрын

I've started to learn English back in 2009 in a self-taught way, the first thing I did was to listen and sing my favorite english songs with them lyrics, that gave me comprehension to sing these songs in a correct way instead of guessing the words or just doing the proper mouth position. Back at this time, I've had many friends studying the language for years in a traditional way (paying tons of money to a language school), then a year later I realized I was doing better than them in all the aspects of the language itself. I also noted I've always followed almost all of these explained alternative methods of studying even before they became "methods" LOL

@Tamara-ju3lh 6 ай бұрын

This method has been used for centuries. You didn't discover it in 2009 lol

@nicoleraheem1195 Жыл бұрын

When you said, "German for four years and still not fluent", it resonated with me. I've been learning Chinese for 3 years and still haven't reached Advanced level (Hsk 5-9). I feel this pain.

@TheRedFoxMcCloud Жыл бұрын

making me feel better because i've been learning japanese for 5 years and im still stuck at the intermediate level because i did what pretty much everyone always do when they study

@jefersonbrenes7405 10 ай бұрын

Me too hahaha

@nicoleraheem1195 10 ай бұрын

@@TheRedFoxMcCloud 🥂💕 Cheers to the slow learners!

@nicoleraheem1195 10 ай бұрын

@@jefersonbrenes7405 😂😂😂😂

@nicoleraheem1195 10 ай бұрын

@@jefersonbrenes7405 🥂

@ricardofilgueira 8 ай бұрын

Great explanation!!

@happinesswins 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a language teacher and this was spot on.

@amiothenes 2 жыл бұрын

I'm me and I apprechiate yur message

@kk4764 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome Vid!! As immersion learners we have to save those on the wrong path..keep up the good work Amiothenes

@amiothenes 3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for your support Kaiser! We're glad to hear that my video content is helping the immersion learner community.

@richardhartung1576 3 жыл бұрын

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@RhillEnglish 8 ай бұрын

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🧠 Comprehensible input is essential for effective language learning, encompassing listening and reading to reach fluency. 02:10 🤔 Dr. Stephen Krashen emphasizes that language acquisition occurs through understanding messages, emphasizing the importance of comprehensible input. 04:27 📖 Not all input is equal; it's crucial to focus on comprehensible input, which is information that is both understandable and engaging. 07:10 ⏳ Striking a balance between extensive and intensive input is key; lean toward extensive input to maximize language learning. 09:26 💡 Comprehensible input is superior to early output in language learning, allowing for greater accuracy and depth of understanding.

@sarahnichols4253 10 ай бұрын

I've been studying German for years...Thank you for this video!

@jennytkpt8439 5 ай бұрын

me too, i studied A2 but still stuck there

@Elizabeth-sd7bz 6 ай бұрын

makes sense, you learn your native language as a baby because people around you are constantly using the language and naturally you have to pick up on it to join them. so listening to language you want to learn you will start to naturally pick up on tone and body language and meaning behind words as you did as a child. but as a child in order to develop stronger definitions and structure of the sentences you need to go to school and study them AFTER you get basic understanding of said words. but through it all it helps tremendously to hear it constantly from your surroundings.

@iancardenas-spanishbutcomp4074 3 жыл бұрын

This channel is going to be dedicated to Spanish comprehensible input lessons :D See you there!

@amiothenes 3 жыл бұрын

Which channel?

@richardhartung1576 3 жыл бұрын

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@iancardenas-spanishbutcomp4074 2 жыл бұрын

@@amiothenes The one that I'm using to write this; a lot of things happened to me so I had to push the "release date" but soon :)

@centilingual Жыл бұрын

This is all true, but it's not necessarily either/or. You can also learn a language using the 'learning' method, at least to a degree. A European learning, say, Cherokee, where nouns and verbs don't align with the European idea, won't get very far without a bit of 'learning'.

@nicfarrow 11 ай бұрын

Dead true. This exposes the fallacies claimed in this video.

@yaserhu Жыл бұрын

Thank you man on this video. I am living in Germany and working and my level is somewhere between B1 and B2. Although I got B2 certificate. But I am not happy with my level. But I have a problem with the method, shall I write even More sentences and conjugate more verbs? On the other hand if we go through your method means I won't be remembering and saying the correct grammar? One more point what about writing notes and becoming good in writing? Your method suggests no note taking?

@pinkfurryhat 2 жыл бұрын

High school japanese taught me hiragana and most katakana and a few kanji. Reading those characters were the only reason i could get by in japan. As for sentences? Anything more than “kore wa pen desu” or “i went to the bank” was and still is beyond me. Learning italian first now hahaha

@deddrz2549 Жыл бұрын

Kore wa pen desu doesn't mean I went to the bank lol

@richardhartung1576 3 жыл бұрын

Greetings from Germany ❤️ Keep up the good work 🐺

@richardhartung1576 3 жыл бұрын

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@gooner4a814 6 ай бұрын

a very useful video. thank you :)

@amiothenes 5 ай бұрын

@SistersTape Жыл бұрын

fluent forever method, mass immersion approach

@maxalmonte14 9 ай бұрын

My problem with German is that since they have such strict antipiracy laws I cannot easily download my comprehensible input material 😞

@amiothenes 5 ай бұрын

veepee en

@piotrekr 8 ай бұрын

I can do this for French, Spanish, Russian. I actually did. I learned the alphabet, pronunciation, and reading rules, and I just went through pages of text. Now, I want to learn Mandarin Chinese. But there's no way I can read anything without first learning. I can only listen to something. ☹️

@rezagrans1296 8 ай бұрын

Kanjı firsd jap eeziyur ; ) 🐷

@vipku1203 3 жыл бұрын

I didn’t know you’ve been learning German for 4 years. Although I live in Germany already for 3 years I’m still not satisfied at all for having a B2- lower C1 level because I know I could have reached much more if I was immersing since day 1. On the other hand, did immersion change your daily routine? Did you sacrifice and stop doing some things you use to do just to immerse more ?

@amiothenes 3 жыл бұрын

In the video, I mentioned that I haven't really learned anything at all in 4 years. This is because I was using inefficient routines. Basically, this is my first year of learning German, before that I few words like Apfel, Frau, Mann etc. The only way that immersion changed my daily routine is that instead of watching English stuff, I watch it in German, and I'm very happy about that. For the 70 hours challenge, yeah I sacrificed a lot of things for my time, but on a regular week, nah, everything is normal.

@rezagrans1296 8 ай бұрын

@vipku1203 O. o😶😯👽🛸 Wer yur frum urjinly an' y yu go to Almag`ne 👀👁️🇸🇾🇮🇳🇹🇷

@Giacomo-py4wj 18 күн бұрын

Where do you find comprehensible input for arab and japanese?

@screamtoasigh9984 2 жыл бұрын

Fluent Forever book is a really really good read

@tohaason 10 ай бұрын

I only glanced at Fluent Forever once, a long time ago, but isn't that book all about something like using Anki and rote memorization? That's the complete opposite of Krashen's recommended method. Or is this a different book?

@Naszeim 9 ай бұрын

How do you make input comprehensible

@saltierthanyou69 3 ай бұрын

Look at the Birkenbihl method for learning languages.

@pedroph123 Ай бұрын

In letzer Zeit habe ich mit dieser Methode Deustch gelernt. Es ist sehr effektiv, aber ich würde eine Mischung mit anderen Methoden empfehlen. Ein bisschen Grammatik wird dir bei den Details hilfen!

@acwhfamily 4 ай бұрын

Speaking any language is simple if you live in that language environment for some time totally immersing. Speaking has two layers such as sounds and meanings. You can't learn this you have to acquire it through habit formation. Speaking comes to you just like infecting a disease when you living in the infected.

@user-hy2ju1sb3s Жыл бұрын

Good video

@Chuugokujin Жыл бұрын

He literally copied word for word what another KZfaqr said

@user-hy2ju1sb3s Жыл бұрын

@@Chuugokujin who?

@albert4666 2 жыл бұрын

Input is very important but unfortunately not enough to be able to speak a language well. I had been living in the UK for 16 years and I think my comprehension of english is very good but when it comes to speaking or writing in this language I'm miles away from a decent level. In my opinion repetitive listening to limited material is also needed

@brendon2462 2 жыл бұрын

I find i can say more the more i understand. So why can't you speak very well. If your comprehension is good? You're basically just copying natives.

@albert4666 2 жыл бұрын

@@brendon2462 I'd love to know the answer to your question trust me , the fact is that after I reached a certain level my speaking ability stopped improving despite of the fact that my comprehension got better over time why is that I have no idea but repetitive listening helped me a lot and that's why I think it is also important.

@brendon2462 2 жыл бұрын

@@albert4666 Ok because many people like Matt got good with immersion. He explained how it only took a short time to speak fluently. He already had an intuition for it. Heard the patterns of speech thousands of times. But he put in 6-8 hours a day everyday. I think he mentioned after 3 years he had reached a basic level of fluency. Katz did it in only 18 months. Japanese is very difficult for native english speakers. That's why i don't get how you're not good after so long why i asked.

@bofbob1 2 жыл бұрын

@@albert4666 You might benefit from more intensive exercises or fluency development exercises. For instance, an intensive reading session could include things like summarizing the text at the end or trying to rephrase everything in as many ways as possible (synonyms, switching up word order, etc.). Fluency development could include things like repeating listening/reading (which you're already doing), but also repeating writing. Another one using output could be 4/3/2, in which you prepare a short presentation on some topic you care about, deliver it in 4 minutes (using a timer), then do it again but do it in 3 minutes, and then again but in 2. Of course the idea isn't to say the exact same words faster. It's about summarizing, learning how to condense ideas, etc. As someone who has worked in linguistics research, I can tell you that nobody knows how language acquisition works (if they did, they'd have won a Nobel prize by now). Those who say we only learn X way or Y way, and Z is provenly superior are pretty much just talking out of their asses. As a language learner all you really have to rely on is your intuition and trial and error. Hence why I'm suggesting a few activities to try, and maybe find out they don't work for you, or maybe that they do. Anyway, got nothing against people who get good mileage out of Krashen's stuff. More power to 'em. I'm just saying to not listen to any theory over your own intuition when it comes to language acquisition, because on the science side of things we really have no idea how it works. You just gotta try things out and see what sticks.

@albert4666 2 жыл бұрын

@@bofbob1 thank you very much for very interesting information . I will definitely give it a go .

@ejt321 8 ай бұрын

You will learn even faster if you DO study the language also. So many people are excited about the idea of 'acquiring' a language by 'not studying' because they don't want to put in the effort. It's laziness and avoidance. You WILL learn a lot with study of grammar and vocabulary. Just don't go in with the idea that it's a grind, boring or hard or a waste. If you didn't become fluent in school 'studying' a language it's because they were not teaching it right. I'm learning Dutch and make big leaps studying grammar and vocab. So, don't be lazy or negative about study!

@gabrielgallardo5824 8 ай бұрын

You don't learn your native language studying, right? And no, learn with grammar it's the hardest things, because it's not "real" I mean all the time that someone teach you grammar use the standard and that isn't real lang, I've been studying English for eleven years with grammar and I only get A1 level and that is the case for almost all of people, most people don't learn with grammar, specifically the 90% because it's not natural, only with 3 months watching movies with subtitles and I get a B2 and using Anki now I'm a B2 and I have a lot of friends and acquaintances that know more than 3 languages and all of them did almost the same and when I was studying I went to a Institute, study all day, I had the betters teacher in my country and nothing, but with comprehensible imput now I know 3 languages and I'm learning other 2, you can learn with grammar in the first language, right but when you try to learn others you realize that grammar isn't efficient and your right about we can learn faster using grammar and that's right but almost nothing like it, not because it's difficult rather it's boring or simple they don't like it, nothing else

@praisetelesto 8 ай бұрын

@@gabrielgallardo5824How exactly do you use anki to aquire a language? Are you going from scratch? I'm just looking for the best method to get fluent with

@ResulMurad 8 ай бұрын

If traditional language learning works for you, go for it, but you may want to try this method to check its validity, as for me I have learned two languages so far without learning grammer.

@pattariyawattanakeeree2559 6 ай бұрын

Nah, man, grabbing grammar ain't about hitting the books hard. Use those grammar resources as a warm-up, then toss yourself into the mix. Some grammar clicks with just a bit of input - like 10-100 examples. Others? Well, they're a 500-1000-hour investment. Just soak it in, feel the language, and let the grammar tag along. Studying it? Silly move.

@InappropriateShorts 6 ай бұрын

also learning dutch, CI is MAGIC. THE ONLY THING I’d add is when you first start out you need A LITTLE BIT of vocab. I started with numbers 1-10, the months and a few words that I use everyday in my journal.

@shedrackjassen913 5 ай бұрын

My language learning journey has been turned upside down🙃🙃🙃🙃🙃

@vincentlashley9449 7 ай бұрын

Jt321 I totally agree

@yishihara55527 2 жыл бұрын

For someone that has been trying to follow the comprehensible input approach for years, honestly it's easy in theory but very hard in practice.

@amiothenes 2 жыл бұрын

ur right, it starts very hard at the beginning but when you get to understand the language more, you enjoy the content more as well . this is coming from my journey

@yishihara55527 2 жыл бұрын

@@amiothenes But the problem is finding content that is precisely i + 1. It's like trying to find a needle in a haystack. The amount of work that takes almost justifies straightforward language learning. LOL

@victorstroganov8135 2 жыл бұрын

@@yishihara55527 i thought that was straightforward language learning, besides it doesn't have to be precisely i + 1

@yishihara55527 2 жыл бұрын

@@victorstroganov8135 It does have to be, but it will just take much longer as it isn't efficient.

@alpacawithouthat987 Жыл бұрын

I find it to be very easy if you find dubs of tv shows and movies that you have already seen, but enjoy. In this way, it is easy to immerse for hours, and when you hear certain words over and over again in specific situations, you gain an intuitive meaning of the word without ever having to look it up. This takes longer, but I believe it is worth it because it makes your understanding of the language closer to that of a native.

@bymaem2441 2 жыл бұрын

Can i start learning chinese just listening even if i can't recognize characters?

@amiothenes 2 жыл бұрын

Depends if you don't want to learn to read in Chinese

@nicoleraheem1195 Жыл бұрын

I've subconsciously learned words that way. But because of subtitles, I was able to put two and two together, however I couldn't rewrite it or repeat, but I could understand. I think Chinese needs a little more effort though

@nicfarrow 11 ай бұрын

Nope. This claim is largely b.s.

@DEUTSCH-kurzundknackig Ай бұрын

Wie sieht's heute mit deinem Deutsch aus? Hat alles geklappt!

@austingee238 5 ай бұрын

How did people all over the world learn each others languages for thousands of years? We need to figure that out and then do that.

@amiothenes 5 ай бұрын

i m m e r s i o n

@dylanvalencia349 8 ай бұрын

I am teaching Spanish. How can I apply comprenhensible input to my lessons? I want my students to read in Spanish after we master the pronunciation, but I would like to know more ideas about how to add comprehensible input to my lessons. I teach one to one lessons (online). Thank you so much in advance!

@colinlyne7399 6 ай бұрын

We didn’t study grammar and vocabulary when we learned to speak our native language. Indeed, we didn’t know anything about the language until we went to school, by which time, we used our speech and hearing to learn about grammar and vocabulary! Not at all needed!

@patfromamboy 9 ай бұрын

I can’t comprehend anything in Portuguese without translating everything into English so I still can’t read or converse after studying Portuguese for 9 years now and visiting Brasil 18 times. I practice every day with my girlfriend who only speaks Portuguese and we’ve been practicing for 6 years now but I still can’t understand what she says. I have to translate everything including basic words that I’ve heard thousands of times.

@youknowkbbaby 8 ай бұрын

The input method is a scam made up by Stephen Krashen. It's a disaster.

@FrankKimono744 5 ай бұрын

Start learning longer expressions like whole sentences, pairs of words etc. Not only single, separate words.

@patfromamboy 5 ай бұрын

@@FrankKimono744 how? I haven’t been able to yet. I have to translate one word at a time. I need to find a way to learn how to understand without translating like that. Bom dia and tudo bem and things like those are the longest I’ve been able to learn so far and those took years. It’s very frustrating. When I hear people speak it sounds like gibberish usually. I usually catch a word or two which I then have to translate.Thanks!

@rafaelcasa316 4 ай бұрын

If I were in your shoes I'd practice with REPETITION! Take a SIMPLE, utilizable, phrase and them grab two glasses. One of them empty, and the other with 100 beens. Than, repeat the phrase and move a been from the full glass to the empty one. Repeat the process till you have empty the full glass. With this method you gonna be able to memoralize the phrases, understand the meanings, and be able to repeat them from memory. It's IMPOSSIBLE to not learn if you do this! Sorry about my bad grammar, I'm a native portuguese speaker who is triyng to learn some english. But I'm writing everything from memory. Good look for you

@patfromamboy 4 ай бұрын

@@rafaelcasa316 I read the same Duolingo story over 5000 times but I still had to translate everything into English each time I read it. I wasn’t trying to memorize it though. Portuguese words don’t mean anything to me until I translate them for some reason. I recognize words as words that I know but they don’t create the images and ideas like English words do until I translate them. Thanks a lot for the help, I appreciate it.

@laurabernay 9 ай бұрын

How does this method DIRECTLY help with writing in the language you are learning??

@amiothenes 5 ай бұрын

output will eventually get sorted out

@nicedog1 2 ай бұрын

Don't learn vocabulary, don't learn grammar, don't look words up! In the end it will just be don't do anything, in fact don't bother at all.

@EvoGoody 7 ай бұрын

Of course you have to study. Comprehensible input is also necessary.

@NewLife2028 8 ай бұрын

This was recorded 2 years ago. If you haven’t failed completely with this method yet, it’s just a matter of time.

@amiothenes 5 ай бұрын

mr trump 2024, going strong as of yet

@NewLife2028 5 ай бұрын

@@amiothenes better everyday. It helps when dems lie harder. Nothing like going after your political opponent by weaponizing justice. At least now that Biden is defending the Jewish Left, we know who installed Biden.

@NewLife2028 4 ай бұрын

@@amiothenes quite. Thanks for asking.

@lucccar 5 ай бұрын

the video content actually starts at 4:15

@amiothenes 5 ай бұрын

omagawd

@stevencarr4002 2 ай бұрын

Stephen Krashen has a famous video , using teaching the German language to introduce the concept of 'comprehensible input' to an expectant world. He draws a circle, and then draws a nose on it, and says 'die Nase'. He points to his head and says 'Kopf'. He writes the symbol '2' and then says 'Zwei'. Allegedly, this is 'comprehensible input'.... I beg to differ. How in the world is that not the very definition of explicit instruction, when Duolingo showing you a picture of an apple with the words 'La manzana' underneath is held up as an exemplar of explicit instruction?

@nkazmi8203 8 ай бұрын

a nice summary of Stephen Krashen's video, but there is nothing new or original here

@davidbrisbane7206 9 ай бұрын

Don't study a language. Let it study you!

@amiothenes 5 ай бұрын

whaaa

@diamondkingdiamond6289 2 жыл бұрын

3:54 this is simply not true especially if you are using an immersion method such as ajjat or refold. The reason these methods work so well is that they include active study (learning) with the combination of immersion (acquisition). Furthermore, in my experience and as with with Matts, you do not need comprehensible input. At the beginning I listened to content with 10% comprehensibility but due to me doing anki and getting a lot of listening practice, this percentage gradually rose until I could understand most of the stuff being said.

@amiothenes 2 жыл бұрын

Right, at the beginning there is little of anything that is comprehensible. Building one's repertoire of words through Anki is a good way to give oneself a little boost through the first few stages, and even until fluency. I agree that active study also needs to be implemented.

@davidbrisbane7206 9 ай бұрын

Maybe we should just replace all language with graphic novels 😂🤣😂🤣.

@davidbrisbane7206 9 ай бұрын

Well known does not mean right!

@amiothenes 5 ай бұрын

whaaa

@GOODDANY007 Жыл бұрын

Input works 100%. It allows you to master a language in a year with ease.

@nicfarrow 11 ай бұрын

Present some documentation, definitions and examples or withdraw this claim. It is utterly without merit.

@youknowkbbaby 8 ай бұрын

@nicfarrow exactly and that's what the Input fanatic crowd I all about

@davidbrisbane7206 9 ай бұрын

So you espoused an inexactitude about how long you were studying German and now we should credit you?

@amiothenes 5 ай бұрын

whaaa

@OxysLokiMoros 8 ай бұрын

You don't want to read Goethe... believe me, I am German and that's not funny... It's old German and contains a lot of "fillers"... You could try Faust but stay away from Die Leiden des jungen Werthers...😅

@amiothenes 5 ай бұрын

yeaaaa looks awful

@janolszewski5068 6 ай бұрын

I think that you don't understand. Input is terrible to memorize but excellent to retrieve. Combine them two wisely

@amiothenes 5 ай бұрын

huuuhhhh whaa

@janolszewski5068 4 ай бұрын

@@amiothenes yeah. It's basic knowledge of how the memory work. Haven't you heard that when you learn actively you need to revise a word in different context 5-6 times to transfer it to the LTM and passively you have to encounter it 20-50 times. Btw good luck learning a language from b2 to C1 level using Krashen method. When you surpass 4000 most common words, the word's frequency is 14 times in 1 milion word. And at about 7k words we talk about the frequency of 7 times in 1 milion words. Let's add more facts for you to understand it forever. The average book has 400 000 words. So in order to revise a word from c1 level 7 times you need to read 2,5 book. But it's only 7 revisions, where are the 25-50? Yeah you need to read 4-7 book to learn a word. That's hillarous. Don't follow mindlessly krashen's method, because when you dive into the memory field, you will find out that this method is bullshit.

@Dan.50 5 ай бұрын

Learn how before you learn why.

@amiothenes 5 ай бұрын

wise wise

@peachy7776 6 ай бұрын

unfortunately comprehensible input doesnt help for comprehensible output...

@amiothenes 5 ай бұрын

eventually

@alanwhiplington5504 8 ай бұрын

Unfortunately, the presenter makes just too many English mistakes. He could at least have checked the grammar before reading out the script.

@amiothenes 5 ай бұрын

ayyyeee

@azzadazza3082 2 ай бұрын

You sound like Omar Rudburg

@nicfarrow 11 ай бұрын

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Krashen, Krashen, Krashen. Zzzzz. I have yet to meet anyone who learned - Oh! ... ACQUIRED a language through input only, no matter how magically, finely tuned, the input. Lots of talk - no substance. Also, when the gap between language families is so very distant as say, German and Japanese, ha! Not a chance, but for a tiny section of the population with some particular learning, sorry, acquiring, super-power. Don't believe it.

@tohaason 10 ай бұрын

I most definitely learned English that way, looking back I found retrospectively that I had unintentionally implemented Krashen's method almost to the letter. I learned English almost entirely by reading, and I never used a dictionary or stopped to look things up. But the thing is - I wasn't trying to learn English. I was trying to get at the content of what I was reading. Much later I learned enough of another language to be able to live in that country by, again, reading things of interest. I had previously tried a traditional course and learned absolutely zero. When it comes to Japanese I can't learn by that method - there's no way of reading Japanese unless you already know Japanese - so I didn't get very far for years. But now that I've found a good "input method" for audio, with Japanese transcription, I'm starting to read much better and things are finally opening up.