Great great great explanations on this video! Glad you're enjoying the OpenXR Toolkit, seeing a happy and excited user is all we can ever dream of as developers!
@ParallaxEffect2 жыл бұрын
Wow you found this video so quickly! thank you so much for making the openxr toolkit. Every day I fly I am thankful for it.
@Chaos6-12 жыл бұрын
Totally agree..this is my exact new setup and I haven’t been able to play DCS or MSFS until now. After I get everything set up I can’t wait to go through this step by step! Thanks man!
@michaeldomanski2472 Жыл бұрын
I have never seen perfect life-like photorealistic scenery in MSFS until I followed your VR tuning. Thank you for a new sim experience! Since I have AMD did not change any CPU settings HP Reverb G2 V2 Ryzen 7 5800X, 3801 Mhz NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti Using DLSS setting in VR D-Box Motion 4 Actuator system
@michaeldomanski2472 Жыл бұрын
@@dusan78 I did get the Ryzen 7 5800X3D CPU and it was the best investment, the performance (especially for MSFS) was well worth the $. It really allows my latest upgrade, the 4090, to perform.
@mikoriad Жыл бұрын
I have many of your tips in play already, but the "clear environment" advice was one of the best things I took from your tutorial. That immediately made a huge difference in stuttering and smoothness. I've had the G2 since it was released and have never reset it manually. I'm sure a windows reinstall cleared it, but that was probably last year. So much great advice! Thank you for taking the time to compile this entire presentation Sir!
@baaamakingbaaaa Жыл бұрын
I am commenting from 9 months in the future. I just wasted over an hour tweeking my settings. I am not sure if one of the updates changed something or not, but with this setup you don't need openxr or steam vr. Just crank everything to ultra and enjoy.. Thanks for the video though- that had to take a long time to make. subbed
@nathantw Жыл бұрын
I would have liked to see you take off from a densely packed airport, like London City, and see what frame rates you’d get. Thanks for the very detailed and great video.
@fly_with_nick Жыл бұрын
This is a very good question. I’m working on a new video with updated settings but in the mean time tried this out last night. It’s fluid at 30fps under 400 knots in London or SF. BUT as soon as you starting real weather w/ complex clouds, it drops down to 23fps. Generally it can do complex weather OR complex photogrammetry comfortably but not both at 30fps.
@nathantw Жыл бұрын
@@fly_with_nick Thank you! I just updated my system to include a 3090ti and a G2 but I was thinking something was wrong when my frame rates weren't above 50fps. Now I feel a bit better.
@fly_with_nick Жыл бұрын
@@nathantw I never see 50fps because per the video I have it locked on motion reprojection - 30fps (45 if you have very low settings) is the expected max FPS in that case.
@LuisimiTV2 жыл бұрын
excellent.. Thank you. Greetings from South Florida! Fly KFLL! :)
@whiteflyingmonkey Жыл бұрын
The best, I subscribed for the good work!
@BLACKSYNTH Жыл бұрын
I have a 4090 + 5800x3D and in VR volumetric clouds has relitivly little impact compared to Terrain/objects level of detail. probably due to the insane GPU power available compared to CPU. I find Steam vR to be faster than OpenXR strangley. Dont use DLSS or TAA, its DLAA I think ? that looks best for antiailsing whilst reyaining detail, TAA is a little soft. I get 90FPS locked for the most part unless im in new york on Pico 4 streamed at 150mbps and god mode. there are no streaming artifacts at that level. the pico 4 needs more GPU power than say just running a G2 so its higly dependent on your setup. I know the new HVEC 10-bit streaming in VD is a GPU hog that litterally half my frame rate so I use H.265 and that lets my gpu fly and its greta on high bandwidth if you have it if not then it will look worse if you have to go down to 60mbps or whatever.
@HK-yh6gj2 жыл бұрын
Best settings I ever had in VR. Thank you for the tutorial. Works well with my Intel cpu and RTX 3070. MR off. Reverb G2. And thanks to mbucchia for this great tool!!!!
@1976husky Жыл бұрын
Nick, you da man! I would fly over, just to buy some pints. Thank you, sir
@bronson2585 Жыл бұрын
I didn’t even use all the settings you recommend since your xrtoolkit menu is different and wow. Looks amazing
@paulphibbs71622 жыл бұрын
Excellent coverage of setting up for VR usage. I’m going to stick this in my Discord as a reference for other pilots. Thank you for your efforts.
@pellman87 Жыл бұрын
I just wish for a day when we buy or headset, plug it in, and all games work out of the box... Since I bought my G2 Reverb last month I have probably spent 80% of the time troubleshooting, googling, optimizing and watching videos like this instead of actually flying in VR having a great time.
@ParallaxEffect Жыл бұрын
Completely agree!
@shadowbanned5164 Жыл бұрын
When you get it dialed in properly you wont regret spending that time getting it right.
@lucaslloyd6640 Жыл бұрын
followed your steps for CPU...didnt see that i was throttling so i left it alone, it wouldnt let me edit any OC settings for CPU within the intel extreme software anyway. i guess i just dont understand BIOS settings that well yet (I7-10700k)...however i did follow your steps for my RTX 3090 under volting and overclocking and had bad luck with crashing. first game play went fine, then experienced crashing after that. After following your comprehensive video minute by minute i got amazing results using DLSS instea of TAA. best VR experience ive had thus far.
@fly_with_nick Жыл бұрын
Sorry about that. Yeh this video is a bit out of date. In my new one I avoided talking about over clocking because I’m not an expert and everyone’s system is a little different. Thrilled you got DLSS working though. That’s a game changer
@kylenixon547011 ай бұрын
I liked the part when he said "if I might have a really cool WMR home that I have saved" Oh Man I Can't Breath! LOLOL!
@javier1996122 жыл бұрын
My 5900x and 3080FE perform just as well following all of the steps in this video. Thanks a lot!
@ColinDyckes2 жыл бұрын
FS2020 uses well over 60 threads in use, and the 'limited by main thread' message often means the main thread is waiting on a semaphore for other threads to complete their tasks. As such, ALL CORE overclock is the best way to go, overvolting, and using WaterCooling to stop thermal throttling. I have my 10900K running all 20 threads at 5.1GHz and no core goes above 90C on a custom loop! My 3090 is watercooled as well, so I'm running 1960MHz GPU in FS2020 at about 420W. The 12900K is a little trickier to get maximum performance from all cores/threads. Agree on the rest. Very useful to non techies, but if you understand BIOS settings you can get much better results than XTU!
@dabneyoffermein595 Жыл бұрын
so what about the "trickier" 12900K? how should i go about it or should i just keep it stock? i really would like to get max performance but i don't have a water-block (custom loop), just a watercooled corsair 360 extreme (or whatever it's called, sorry forgot the name).
@ColinDyckes Жыл бұрын
@@dabneyoffermein595 I don't have any experience of the 12900K with its Performance and Efficiency cores but there are many KZfaq videos about tuning it for best gaming performance. I would suggest you wait until SU10 is released in a week (hopefully) as SU8 and SU9 introduced very significant performance degradation in MSFS for me (and lots of other people). They've delayed the release because SU10 Beta ran even worse (again for some beta testers including me). Hopefully DX12 will make better use of the CPU cores and DLSS will let you trade off graphics quality against FPS.
@dabneyoffermein595 Жыл бұрын
@@ColinDyckes wow, that stinks (the performance degradation in SU8 & SU9, I will eagerly await SU10 with baited breath. I am trying out VR again after watching this and other videos and am hoping for some ground gains. So far so good as I did a night flight in the A320NX and it was amazing. Lots of work to do on setting up controls however. Thanks for the great info!
@dabneyoffermein595 Жыл бұрын
@@ColinDyckes thanks Colin, so when the new version (update) comes out, will there still be an option for DX11 & DX12, or are they going strictly to DX12?
@ColinDyckes Жыл бұрын
@@dabneyoffermein595 Unknown. The Beta gave the choice of either, and I would expect the release to do the same. DX12 CAN make use of all CPU cores but only if the program is written to do so. It certainly didn't for me in the beta (33% worse performance) so I hope they resolve that before release. DX11 is effectively limited to a single core for graphics but MSFS has lots of threads handling other things.
@scottw6960 Жыл бұрын
great tips! thank you
@lurchilurch55072 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, thanks!
@AndyCYXU2 жыл бұрын
great video Thanks for taking time to do it... It is so nice to watch someone explain then read boring ass manifesto ! Instructional videos are the way of the future !
@jamiesalmonsculpture85992 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Although, I must admit when you started into the CPU and GPU tinkering I almost stopped the video. Yikes. There's just no way I'll go there. I understand nothing about that kind of thing and my VR experience is great already. Not worth it for me as I basically get your level of performance without all that tinkering, but glad it helped you. All the other stuff you go into though is good and will help a lot of people I'm sure.
@fly_with_nick2 жыл бұрын
Excellent, if only 2 mins of the total is useful to you, then it's done its job! Agree the CPU / GPU stuff is not for everyone (though the actual risk is likely very low and completely overblown by the neckbeard community).
@robs35572 жыл бұрын
Best explanation on this subject. I’m running a 3080ti on a 12th Gen i7. Hopefully I’ll see improvements with this setup. Thanks Again!
@hansbonde2096 Жыл бұрын
Still working as of today! Thank you!
@123thedman1 Жыл бұрын
Great vid, thanks
@jacklabernathy2 жыл бұрын
Very thoughtful and nicely done. Thank you for sharing.
@motorbikedad98182 жыл бұрын
Excellent video thank you for taking the time!
@jrherita Жыл бұрын
A year later - but fwiw, a 7800X3D + DDR5-6000CL30 is able to power a pretty consistent 72 fps on a Quest 2, so long as your weather is relatively clear.
@TM-hl9kz2 жыл бұрын
If you're overclocking you should scrap the extreming tuning tool and get familiar with the ins and outs of your bios.
@martijntubeyou2 жыл бұрын
Great vid, thnx for sharing your experience
@suddenlysolo21702 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I'm gonna try with my Valve index (I also have ordered a Reverb G2). I have an RTX 3070, 12,900k so my bottleneck with definitely be the gpu.
@chrisflack-we8gc Жыл бұрын
Thank y ou so much..
@rogerfed62402 жыл бұрын
Can you share a link to fps monitor used in that video? thx
@fly_with_nick2 жыл бұрын
It's amazing. Wind speed, direction, too -- flightsim.to/file/16358/shift-z-stats
@pete244422 жыл бұрын
Extremely helpful! Thank you
@ervmoore11112 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thanks for sharing!
@ervmoore11112 жыл бұрын
Just completed a flight with my multiplayer group using your settings as guide with excellent results. Little more tweaking to do but a big help. Thanks again. Running i9-10900k, 3080 ti with G2.
@rkltck4449 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video. Have you changed your settings since the arrival of the DLSS and SU11 ?
@jasonwong76742 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great video and explanation, I have the same spec as yours and I haven't overclocked the CPU yet and I already achieved great VR experience so far. One thing about the Intel Extreme utility is that when Hyper-V is enabled, you can't load the program..
@ericveschi49042 жыл бұрын
On X-plane, I've noticed that it use only 1 core at 100%. But when I played around "affinity" in the task manager, I was able to find affinities who was able to share the power needed by the software. Because windows I able to manage the power needed by a software. And in the task manager you are able to change the priority of the software, you can earn few FPS more. And, I'm at 15mn of the video, my be you will talk about it in few minutes. But do a powershell script to stop services and software you don't need during your game session.
@OffRoadQC8 ай бұрын
Things probably changed lately because I can't get near this at 30 fps with a 13700K undervolted and OCed (5.6 Ghz up to 3 cores) and a 3090 (undervolted, OCed on mem only). I'm not even close. At 80% scale I'm still GPU limited on the ground at like 22 fps. I'm really struggling with my setup, it's not even fun anymore. Glad for all of you guys out there who look like they're having fun, I'm not.
@TM-hl9kz2 жыл бұрын
The issue with texture resolution being lower in PC mode than VR mode is that a restart is required for the change to take effect. Hence, either them the same. I.e., it's not a bug.
@rfarley5656562 жыл бұрын
I like your color saturation settings..
@RIKAAR_Ambient7 ай бұрын
Thanks man! But maybe you could make an Updated Video there are much more settings now in MSFS
@Fulljim12 жыл бұрын
For Valve Index users: almost the same but - motion smoothing forced always ON and go for 80hz.
@tombittikoffer4122 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU! Same system as you. The CPU overclock totally changed the game for me! I water AIO cool with the biggest one I could get and it's handling 5.33 in under 70c. I can finally fly with airport traffic with no stutters at 100% in LA and NYC. What's weird is that I do After Effects and some 3d sims and in some cases, they're slower. That a cache bottleneck? Feels like with the stupidly small L3 cache, chip IO can back up pretty fast. Thoughts?
@fly_with_nick2 жыл бұрын
SO glad. I should have mentioned that if people can cherry pick tips from the (very long) video, and get some improvement, then its all worth it. No idea about other games, sorry! by the way - with those of us on very fast CPUs ive realized its possible to be NOT single thread / CPU limited but STILL get stutters - because MSFS 2020 requires burst performance when loading scenery, which causes, as you said, stutters. Those are easy to see because the load / temp goes up right when you're seeing the stutters. This is what I am trying to improve by increasing single core performance, and yes, it does work and help!
@markrichards2262 жыл бұрын
Too green. Too warm. Too saturated. 100% correct. Almost cartoony. I've messed with this so much and love how dull we can get the UK lol.
@ParallaxEffect2 жыл бұрын
I love this. Too right. Bring some realism into the sim!
@muzammilkaleemulla6667 Жыл бұрын
@crashtestpilot3883 , Great video :) . Quick question, isn't the HP reverb G2 resolution 2160 x 2160 per eye? How did you get 3200x3200 per eye? are you up-scaling to 3200x3200?
@fly_with_nick Жыл бұрын
this is an excellent question and something that is really not often-enough explained by the VR dev community, or understood by the user community. The reason, I believe, we render at a much higher resolution than the screen resolution ("100% render scale" is actually already 3200x3200 by the way, so it's the *recommended* resolution by HP), is because the image is significantly stretched post-game render, pre-populating the little VR screens, in order to compensate for the lenses which create a lot of distortion by being so close to the screen. This stretching / warping means the middle of the image looses a lot of detail unless it is rendered at a much higher resolution than the actual final screen resolution. In fact, if you render up to 5000x5000 (yes, you read that right) on the reverb g2, you will see SIGNIFICANT image quality improvement. You could call this 'super sampling' (I think thats what you meant by upscaling) but it actually creates an image that just about, finally, after being stretched, utilizes the actual pixels in the middle of the image. If you have a VR headset and dont' believe any of this - you can try it for yourself. Just set the render scale to 300 or 400% and look at how much more detail (resolution) you see in the image. New video about to be released explaining this with screenshots.
@muzammilkaleemulla6667 Жыл бұрын
@@fly_with_nick Hey, thanks for the detailed response. Really appreciate it :) So, if I understand correctly the screen has physical pixels arranged 2160x2160 horizontaly and vertically, but it renders at 3200x3200 to compensate for the image lose, due to the stretching and warping? It makes sense now :) I'm planning to get into VR, and the HP reverb G2 looks like the right choice. How's the Chromatic Aberration on the G2 btw? Online through-the-lens videos show really bad chromatic aberration on G2 compared to other VR headsets. Is it the same in IRL?
@fly_with_nick Жыл бұрын
@@muzammilkaleemulla6667 chromatic aberration, if there is any, isn’t noticeable by me and honestly things like render scale and FPS make a much much bigger difference to overall experience than those things IMHO
@PascalQNH2992 Жыл бұрын
My Windows Mixed Reality has only the screen with a few settings not al the settings you showing
@Buschwick2 жыл бұрын
dude lol! lemme fix that: - undervolt (reduce power) ***[this is what reduces heat. Heat is the single greatest obstacle that limits processor speed and current voltage is nearly 100% responsible for how hot the chip is] - overclock (increase performance) ***[While overclocking does increase performance, higher than stock clock speeds require higher than stock voltages. It's how OCing works. Too low of a voltage and the chip will stall out, crashing your computer. Starting to see the balance here?] - increase fan speed (using bios) to reduce thermal throttling ***[What you described here is the battle with the thermal problem (your first step). You can get aggressive with this one. This is why water cooling became popular. It should definitely be coming together now.]
@scottstoll-dn2yx2 жыл бұрын
I'm having great results, light years better than any other setup I've tried! But there is one thing happening I don't understand. Reprojection makes things fantastically smooth with some aircraft/scenery and a lot, LOT worse with others. FPS is good, but I'm getting a lot of stutters, and black areas on the side of the viewing area when I turn my head. I'm watching the FPS meter and it doesn't say I'm CPU bound the way it does when loading a menu, but that's sure what it seems like. Examples: Cessna 172 it's fantastic. Milviz 310R or the Kodiak 100, it's better without it. I get 36fps in rain and fog at about 70% scaling in OpenXR, with an R7, 32G ram and a 3060ti. Can you think of any reason the reprojection would start doing more harm than good depending on how heavy the aircraft is? (It's scenery, too. Toronto city center payware chokes me down to 4 fps with it on, 21 with it off)
@ParallaxEffect2 жыл бұрын
sounds like the GPU can't cope with the settings. you shouldn't be getting 36fps with motion reproduction (depending on headset), as it locks at 22.5, 30, 45 etc for the G2. Aircraft definitely impact FPS too - taxing both the CPU and GPU to different levels. As does scenery. But 4fps means something is probably set too high for the GPU. You can generally ignore the 'CPU bound' notices that flash in and out with the developer menu on. I don't believe them.
@scottstoll-dn2yx2 жыл бұрын
@@ParallaxEffect The thing is, when I change airports or planes with the exact same settings, it can be great. IE: NZWN in a 172 with repro on is better than I ever dreamed. 310R or Kodiak, it's dropped to 16 on the meter and I can really tell, but if I turn repro off with the same plane and airport, I'm back up to 24 on the ground. Yes, it's obvious that adding complexity will tax the GPU, but what I don't get is why it seems to hurt the ability to use reprojection more than anything else. I would expect things to still be bad even after turning repro off, but it gets better, and that's what's got me confused.
@martinschmidt5541 Жыл бұрын
How do you film the VR view in one window - I only see 2 screens, this is not good for filming... In Steam VR I know there is an option to display only one eye, but in Microsoft Mixed I do not find this option
@fly_with_nick Жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/fMWqiN1krc2qhWw.html
@Darrylx444 Жыл бұрын
I'm having very bad VR cloud artifacts in my right eye only. Especially when I stare at one area of clouds without moving my head for a few moments. Looks like a checkerboard pattern. Only in MSFS, no other game. No problem in menus, or when not looking anywhere near clouds. Only seems to go away if I set AA to "none", but that looks trash. It doesn't happen in non-VR mode or VR mirror, so I can't get a screenshot of it. Vive Pro 2.
@lazzo2012 Жыл бұрын
Hello there, I have Pico 4 headset and RTX3070 gpu but the graphic is really bad and blurry, if I try to improve the resolution it starts stuttering, would anyone be able to tell me what is the right scaling settings in the game, steam vr and openxr for a 3070 card, Thanks
@ahmtmhmtbyglu Жыл бұрын
well full of information thank you. But... (yea that word is annoying I know ;)) I want to ask you a question, why do you always lock the fps to 30pfs while using 90Hz. As the motion reprojection adds one calculated frame between two frames and this means 30fpsx2 = 60fps. So if you want to go to 90fps shouldn't you aim for 45fps? You set your refresh rate to 90Hz but you are limiting your fps to 60.
@fly_with_nick Жыл бұрын
MR can add 1,2 or 3 frames extra per ‘real frame’. So you can do 45,30, or 22.5 ‘real’ fps to get 90fps. 45 (1/2) is too high a bar unless you sacrifice visual clarity, in my option.
@johnmcgahern3946 Жыл бұрын
Mine has improved greatly and definitely appears greater than 30 fps, but how do I know I'm getting 90 fps when the display is locked at 30fps?
@starndustone2 жыл бұрын
Hello from France. Thank you for this great tuto. I have really improve my performance with FS. But I didn't get the MR in my openxr menu... I don't know why. So it's better than before but... The resolution is really better with my meta quest 2. I haven't touch overclocking of my i9 10850k. But overclock my 3090fe, It's make a lot of noise ! I have stable 31fps with 3700*3700 resolution.
@JohnCarlyle2 жыл бұрын
What's going on with motion reprojection in OpenXR for AMD GPUs? I've got a 6800 XT and get 25-30fps with motion reprojection enabled and looks awful, with it disabled I get 65-70fps
@fly_with_nick2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. I don't have experience with AMD GPUs but there is some FPS hit from motion reprojection. For example, on the settings I have my setup, I might get 40-50fps without motion reprojection. But I'd rather get a solid 30fps which turns into 90fps, than see 40fps (which has visible stuttering all the time). By the way, the FPS counter will never show 90fps, even if that's what your eyes are seeing, with motion reprojection. It will show 22.5, 30, or 45fps when it's locked (on a 90hz reverb G2). The game and the FPS counters do not count the extra FPS generated by motion reprojection, even though you are actually getting them in the headset.
@Goldwaschen-mit-Tom2 жыл бұрын
your video is good i support you 😄😄😄😍
@dapage685 ай бұрын
I hope this gets out to everyone that reads this, IF you are having problems with your VR having stutters, lags, or other problems, TRY THIS, get into your game or sim, like normal, Start your VR Does not matter what Headset, When you are in your VR Games or sim, TURN OFF YOUR MONITOR, Because all Your resources will go to the VR headset and not shared between Your VR headset and your Monitor. Try this, You might be surprised just how better your VR is. Then when your done playing, take off You Headset and turn your Monitor back on, YOU DO NOT NEED YOUR MONITOR ON WHEN YOUR IN VR.? Save the resources of your Video Card to your VR headset. "Comment me back if you see a difference"
@dj53144 Жыл бұрын
Please buy a leap motion controller (i'd buy you one but i'm broke after building my system). I've got one that I bought a couple of years ago and I will be trying to set it up after I finish tweaking my new system. Your guide will save me soooo much time and frustration. Many thanks for your hard work! I only have a 11400 and a rtx3050 oc and I run 3 1080p monitors with the side 2 going to a quadro m4000. When i switch back from the HP G2 MSFS forgets my window stretching for the 3 monitors but it is an easy adjustment. I tried the experimental multi monitor set up and got it working and aligned but when I switched back it would collapse the displays under the main screen and it was a pain to move them back (at least it remembered the alignment) My goal is to fly around the world in real time by flying an A320 (with unlimited fuel) to the major cities one weekend at a time (with autopilot and the 3 monitor display) and then exploring the area with a g2 helicopter, the HP G2 and Wikipedia. Anyways, thanks again for your excellent guide.
@mat_ot80252 жыл бұрын
Nice video!. Also I would like to know which 3090 are you using-? the msi one, the asus, evga etc.
@vavalexus Жыл бұрын
I have testet all the settings, but cannot make it work smooth. It always stutters, espeially when I look in the side window. I don't thing it is hardware related, because changing the render scales or changing in-game settings doesnt make the game performing smoother. On the high or low settings it goes with the same stutters. Win 11 (latest updtes). CPU 13900kf, GPU 4090, RAM 32 DDR-5600, VR Reverb G2 V.2. OpenXR Toolkit, OpexXR devkit. Played with all the settings. Stutters. CPU and GPU are a bit undervolted.
@THEGHOSTMAKER19 ай бұрын
Im new to all this and pc sims. Ive had made by scan a 3xs 4090 system with 7800x3d and 32hb corsair. G2 reverb, 1440p monitor. Im runing DCS (digital combat simulator) i have windows mixed reality, steamVR, and also OpenXR toolkit.. and im struggling to get what i want for full realism in vr.. any help much appreciated with openXr toolkit etc.
@DjankoDK Жыл бұрын
Well thank you. Thou i couldn't get the right solution for me with all your suggestions, but mayby it is because i have a HP Reverb G1 and not the version G2. I do have a Nividia 3080 but i still found much stuttering and unclear graphic in cabin. An older advice is to set PC settings in the sim to max out. I did and sudenly my cabin was all clear again...? But still many good advices so thank you!
@dabneyoffermein595 Жыл бұрын
Is there a new video for this same setup? This is now 5 months old so just wondering since I am going to pull out my G2 glasses and hope that it's better than it was 10 months ago.
@fly_with_nick Жыл бұрын
thanks for asking. yes, I am planning to do an updated video, with the newest versions of the everything, comparing the default setup, and using a more standardized way to measure FPS and visual clarity.
@dabneyoffermein595 Жыл бұрын
@@fly_with_nick Oh, great , that's awesome. I'm going to go ahead and pull out my G2 and update at least everything to newer versions and follow along your video to check it out, I'll subscribe so that I get a notification (if I haven't already) . I think I'll start with doing a windows 10 update then my mobo drivers updates and I'm sure my Strix "E" DDR5 board has a new BIOS out there too. Thanks for getting back to me!!!!!!
@dabneyoffermein595 Жыл бұрын
@@fly_with_nick one quick question (and i know I'm doing something wrong), but .... i can't get the on-screen menu to come up with the hot-keys (which are set to F1, F2, F3) for OpenXR Toolkit. I have them set just like yours with no modifiers (cntl- or alt-), they are both un-checked. Still can't get the on-screen to come up even with the Windows Reality play button on so that i can see what's in the headset on the screen, i have FS2020 running as well at the menu just like you were. and the API Layer does indeed show the NORENDOR Toolkit. I've tried F1, F2 and F3 and nothing. must be something simple. Any help is appreciated.
@fly_with_nick Жыл бұрын
@@dabneyoffermein595 for this, best is to join the openXR toolkit discord - those guys are very responsive and helpful - discord.gg/WXFshwMnke
@dabneyoffermein595 Жыл бұрын
@@fly_with_nick i was finally able to get the menu to come up, but only with the glasses on, which meant it was very hard to follow your video and the OpenXR Toolkit settings were different than yours on some tabs since I was obviously using a newer version. I am going to write down all your settings in every area and then use them.
@buikhan2 жыл бұрын
I turned off motion reprojection for my AMD 6700xt card. No more stutters.
@berkaygungormus4208 Жыл бұрын
my friend your resizable bar is closed in nvidia control panel, you should enable it to increase your performance even more
@larue0852 жыл бұрын
So in DCS Im getting the watery effect every few seconds when my OpenXR is in force MR. rtx 3080 thread ripper 32 core 1810mhz 64gb Cleared data in Reality settings. Tried under volting and over clock. When I switch mR to have OpenXR control it. It works great
@buikhan2 жыл бұрын
Does this headset need lighted room so it doesn’t do a occasional blackout flashing? The sharpness is beyond words.
@johannesburgreal4412 жыл бұрын
thanks, this was helpful. what ram are u using?
@nialball9023 Жыл бұрын
Hi Nick. Perfect! Excellent! I followed every step of your tutorial and as a newbie to VR I cant' thank you enough. However, when I run OpenXR Tools for WMR I get an error message - "Error communicating with the Mixed Raelity OpenXR Service" I have searched the internet for three days looking for the solution and all I get is the usual, "Yes, mine does the same!" response. Have you or anyone else viewing this tutorial have the solution or at least know what is going on. Many thanks again for a brilliant video. I hav ebookmarker this as I am sure I will revisit many times. I am running a 13th Gen Intel(R) Core(TM) i9-13900K, 3000 Mhz, 24 Core(s), 32 Logical Processor(s) and NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4090. Why don't they just come with a perfect VR settings button? 😄
@fly_with_nick Жыл бұрын
Whats your headset
@nialball9023 Жыл бұрын
@@fly_with_nick I just upgraded from the Oculus Quest 2 to the HP Reverb G2. I think there may be a conflict with the old Oculus OpenXR. I just used the Steam VR with the Oculus.
@nialball9023 Жыл бұрын
@@fly_with_nick Strangely the demo thingy works from the Open XR development tool, I just can't access the settings without getting the error message.
@fly_with_nick Жыл бұрын
You may need to make sure your openxr runtime is set to wmr in the steam settings.
@nialball9023 Жыл бұрын
@@fly_with_nick Thanks. I'll have a look. This OpenXR thing is all new to me 😕
@BigBawMcGraw2 жыл бұрын
Amazing results! But I must be doing something wrong because I didn't overclock either the cpu or gpu. Using 512.xx driver too. I also increased the sizes of the outer and inner rings and still get 30fps, although I went with low cloud settings to get there (cloud, rain, night, fog over JFK). I've yet to try this with my other favourite game (Assetto Corsa Competizione) but it launches in VR via SteamVR. Any tips on how to bypass this before I try? Thanks again for the clear and concise tutorial 👍
@ParallaxEffect2 жыл бұрын
No idea about other runtimes sorry! My understanding is if it uses OpenXr, you’re good but if it uses openvr (the default in steamvr) the toolkit will not work. Most games are not written for both.
@British_Dragon-4K-Simulations Жыл бұрын
So with these settings (in theory) someone with an RTX 4090 could get 90fps? At least as far as the GPU is concerned. So a GPU latency below 11ms. I'm not sure if the 12900k would be enough though. Edit: With a Reverb G2.
@donfrith3164 Жыл бұрын
I am having issues bringing up the menu for the Open XR Toolkit. Gone through all of the troubleshooting instructions. Any suggestions for resolution?
@fly_with_nick Жыл бұрын
you need to be in an openxr app like MSFS first. And make sure you're using control-f1 (as thats the default keybinding)?
@gregprouse1173 Жыл бұрын
Great video. My setting in OX Toolkit is not comprehensive like yours. I have latest version 1.2.0 I believe. I see yours is showing more options under performance. Can you pls help me on this? Thanks. Im also running a gtx1080ti atm. Any advice on this. Actually Im not seeing foviated rendering option? Where can I find that pls.
@PatrickWulff2 жыл бұрын
CPU and GPU settings aside, do the rest of the tips work with a Valve Index? Never tried WMR settings or OpenXR before.
@technocore15912 жыл бұрын
Awesome can't wait to try this out! One note, regarding turning off mirroring in the WMR portal what I've been doing is once I'm in FS2020 and vr is running, I switch my display to secondary only and my pc screen goes blank and I'm only using the headset. That sound good?
@fly_with_nick2 жыл бұрын
Thats actually really interesting I didn't realize you could turn off your main PC screen with VR on. Where is the secondary only setting?
@technocore15912 жыл бұрын
@@fly_with_nick It's a basic Windows UI setting, I hit "Windows Key"+P until "Second screen only" is selected. No idea what impact is has but it's gotta be a net positive? Edit: I should clarify I'm on a gaming laptop, I9-11900H (so I can't do the cpu optimization cause it's an H) and a 3080 but a mobile 3080 so not as good as a regular 3080, but I still dialed in the GPU optimization as you laid out. Also being a laptop, no Display Port so my Reverb connects with a Display Port-USB-C adapter, if that matters.
@technocore15912 жыл бұрын
@@fly_with_nick Update: After applying all the settings you've laid out her, setting my display to "second screen only" didn't work anymore for some reason. Which is fine since the results are great. Thank you!
@fly_with_nick2 жыл бұрын
@@technocore1591 oh no! I'm glad it works well for you though.
@technocore15912 жыл бұрын
@@fly_with_nick Update to the Update! I found if I opened the "Desktop" app in WMR it let me disable my display by selecting Win+P and choosing "second screen only" I guess having the desktop app open in WMR makes my pc think I've got a second display, so it lets me select it.
@Aeye1232 жыл бұрын
how did u get it to look photo realistic
@soundscaperecordings11112 жыл бұрын
What temperature were you thermal throttling at put of interest?
@fly_with_nick2 жыл бұрын
I noticed thermal throttling happening at just 7-10% CPU usage with temps in the 90-100C range (this is NOT uncommon with this chip). The most important change by far was increasing the fan resting speed significantly, and ramping up at lower temps, so overall much more cooling. This allowed a higher clock speed on low active core count (1 in my case) and much smoother MSFS 2020 performance :) now it doesnt hit more than 70C or so.
@soundscaperecordings11112 жыл бұрын
@@fly_with_nick dang! Yeh that's toasty alright! 😆 I take it that's with the stock cooler? It sounds like your case doesn't have very good airflow tbh or the thermal pad / headsink is improperly applied.. it certainly shouldn't be throttling on default voltage! Personally I would invest in a nice aio water cooling system and some decent thermal paste. They aren't that expensive (£100 ish) especially when compared to the rest of your system. This will bring down temps considerably on your CPU and also keep temps down in your case a bit too so you should be cooler. It shouldn't get over 80 degrees really even with extra voltage. Also undervolting the CPU doesn't actually increase performance in the same way it does with a GPU as the gpu will dynamically adjust clock speed based on temperature. The CPU will not. As long as it's in the safe thermal limits and not throttling you will be able to increase the clock speed with increased voltage. For example my 9900k at stock voltage of 1.34 sits at 4.7ghz happily however if I increase voltage to 1.4 I am able to clock it to 5 GHz. It still doesn't thermal throttle and all is well
@fly_with_nick2 жыл бұрын
The base TDP of your chip is 50% lower than the base TDP of the 12900k. That in itself shows the thing throws off a lot more heat, which in turn has to be dealt with even more efficiently to prevent high temp throttling. Ultimately, my cooling setup may be as good or better but the chip just runs a lot hotter. But the AIO isn't a bad idea, given the noise the DH-15 puts out anyway, I might just jump to an AIO!
@William3143 Жыл бұрын
1/3 reprojection? Wow, it's hard too see.
@kwaka57042 жыл бұрын
Looks good but try it offline and let me know how the experience is. I only have about 15-20mbs bandwidth and cant even get a decent experience offline. Can buy all the hardware in the world but where i live i can only get the internet connection available. Any tips for low bandwidth gaming in fs2020?
@Bush_Fam2 жыл бұрын
hit f2 and nothing. i have VR enabled
@edwaja2 жыл бұрын
Thanks a bunch. My stuttering has stopped in regular flights, but in Top Gun Maverick in the low altitude speed run, the game locks up and crashes. I have the same hardware as you except I have the oculus Rift S. Any helpful thoughts?
@ParallaxEffect2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like the GPU is unstable due to being a little too overclocked ?
@edwaja2 жыл бұрын
Weird because i did the same thing that my friend here did on the video. :( I wonder if I have a faulty $2000 video card?...Edit...you may be right, I just remembered I clicked the button icon in the MSI bios that showed the picture of a CPU & Memory (XMP profile 1) under "Game Boost". So I unclicked those... and see what happens tonight. I thought that is what he said to do in the bios too, but I don't know what to do in the bios.
@edwaja2 жыл бұрын
@@ParallaxEffect So I removed my BIOS game boost settings and still crashing. :(
@chiccoka2 жыл бұрын
Thx for the video. I got 9239 points only. Also i realised that my memory Util is only 7900 MB i dont know why
@user-mz1su7nu5n4 ай бұрын
I don't know I see lots of stuttering
@ocrim167 ай бұрын
dumb question: aren't you ever getting motion sickness from sitting still but see everything in the game moving?
@RIKAAR_Ambient7 ай бұрын
No! Absolutely fine to fly! I Do it since 3 Years with a Reverb....Recoomend it higly for Sims (car or flight)
@sniperwipers6 ай бұрын
I get motion sickness in Alyx and Skyrim VR but not in msfs, DCS or Assetto corsa compet
@DraganStanojevic2 жыл бұрын
3200x3200 per eye? HP Reverb G2 can't do that, whatever you tune. It's a hardware thing. It's more like 2160x2160px per eye.
@GreggRoberts2 жыл бұрын
It's so hard to tell any improvement in VR game for obvious reasons. I sacrificed the 144hz Valve Index for The Primax 8k. The ground is still kind of cruddy but a lot closer to monitor quality. Have you ever gotten so close to monitor quality that it is difficult to tell the diff? I'm not talking about VR capture quality but literally what you see through the headset. It's kind of a buzz kill. My 6900's never get about 55C in game. The slower 90hz makes me want to hurl every once in awhile. On a side note, your game video is kind of choppy. You dropping frames? Your should be getting way more than 90fps with that 3090.
@gigatron20002 жыл бұрын
I have almost the same exact setup (rtx3090, 12900kf, 64gb ddr5, reverb g2). I copied your settings exactly, but when I run a stress test, I get both power limit throttling, and current/EDP throttling. Is this normal? Also, my xtu benchmark numbers are lower. Any ideas?
@fly_with_nick2 жыл бұрын
So I set my CPU to run pretty high - which improves thermals. I think you can search a bit to understand what’s happening when the chip is current throttling. I think it could mean a few different things, but I’m not an expert, sorry! That said, I think making this CPU run faster will only improve performance in very limited circumstances (IE loading new terrain), as the GPU is likely the bottleneck about 95% of the time you’re in the sim.
@theageingrocker2 жыл бұрын
Great video very informative section about GPU CPU etc curious to know if you're running this PC spec for X-Plane 11 successfully too?
@davidshahin97532 жыл бұрын
Which VR goggles U using?
@haiacninc2 жыл бұрын
I'm curious how is your fps or smoothest if you fly the a32nx. Honestly with the amazing open xr toolkit I'm able to fly those small plane with my setting which was very smooth. But when I jump on the a32nx most of the time is not smooth. My gpu is 3080ti which is not far away from your 3090. I'm using i9 10900k.
@fly_with_nick2 жыл бұрын
good question. I dont fly airliners. But I tried it just now, so I could answer your question. It's the same - perfectly smooth. The issue may be your 10900k, perhaps, or settings. drive.google.com/file/d/1-GvkfZFkcRoLFVepn1TKlCwimKlcPbNR/view?usp=sharing
@haiacninc2 жыл бұрын
@@fly_with_nick Thanks for the info. I think the a3nx from flybywire is a bit more heavier. But is a hit and miss and depend on my location.
@fly_with_nick2 жыл бұрын
@@haiacninc absolutely. fps always depends on location, clouds, other plane models, etc. I haven't found a plane that slows my FPS down except the F22 which destroyed it, so I stopped flying it. I expect its more likely that third party planes hit the CPU harder than the GPU which may be why, with a 10th gen, it occasionally struggles.
@haiacninc2 жыл бұрын
@@fly_with_nick hopefully dlss will fix all these issue. As I only fly in vr is just frustrating sometimes. Is been over a year and we all still struggle with the setting if it wasn't for developers of the open xr toolkit, I've already give up and probably wait until the end of this year.
@haiacninc2 жыл бұрын
I literally upgrade my pc from i7 2080ti to i9 and 3080ti before the 12th gen come out so nope won't be upgrading and be disappointed still 😅
@harfentoni74632 жыл бұрын
tried your cpu optimization then get windows bluescreen and now every time i start MSFS i get this nice Microsoft Visual C++ runtime error : assertion failed. nothing helps
@fly_with_nick2 жыл бұрын
sorry to hear. resetting the CPU back to the default settings using Intel Tuning Utility should fix everything. Make sure you apply the new settings and restart. Do you have a 12900k? I haven't had any issues with MSFS like you describe..
@harfentoni74632 жыл бұрын
@@fly_with_nick nope id did nothing, resetted to default, uninstalled, installed msfs new, installed c++ new, resetted the rolling cash, but the sim is running if i ignore the msg 5 times ;) omg why did i change a running system ^^
@fly_with_nick2 жыл бұрын
@@harfentoni7463 did you get this fixed? I hope so. Im wondering if its perhaps unrelated to the IXTU.
@spencerwarren92195 ай бұрын
I uninstalled msfs 2020. I have a reverb g2 rtx 2070 and i7 8750 and no matter the lowest setting cant get over 20 fps. I fly dcs at 45 to 50 fps. I have soent weeks trying to optimize msfs and it just shouldnt be that hard to make this sim flyable.
@ShreddingFinn6 ай бұрын
MSFS is completely broken in VR. I have seen many with unplayable experiences with a freaking 4090. I can run DCS like my system even isn't a concern but MSFS is a slide show. Have tried everything, something is fundamentally broken.
@flybobbie14492 жыл бұрын
FS clouds just look weird.
@haltux2 жыл бұрын
"I don't think CPU is the main limitation for most people running VR at a reasonnable resolution" Actually the less reasonnable the resolution is the less the CPU might be the bottleneck. Increasing the resolution is 100% GPU burden.
@richardeaton2469 Жыл бұрын
That is not 90fps
@ParallaxEffect Жыл бұрын
curious, were you able to read what the subtitle at 3:23 says?
@designatedtruth1205 Жыл бұрын
That’s the monitor look VR looks way different you cannot identify an airplane clearly within 300 feet
@1littlelee2 жыл бұрын
hmmm sorry but you need to explain this better not because its not clerar but because you dont seem to understand whats doing what
@saintuk702 жыл бұрын
"I have a 3090", a gpu that's geared towards productivity more than gaming. So, for those of us peasants on anything less that even a 3080..... it's the poor-house for us.
@exeray60382 жыл бұрын
This video is literally the worst set of advices i have ever seen. And i DEFINITELLY strongly advise against using the hardware optimisations used in this video unless you absolutely hate your cpu/gpu and want them dead. Especially the CPU "optimizations" here are straight up HORRIBLE ideas.
@ParallaxEffect2 жыл бұрын
Care to elaborate? Undervolting decreases stability for lower power utilization but will not make your CPU ‘dead’. All settings revert upon instability. Lower temps generally lead to longer life vs ‘dead’. Same with GPU. The biggest CPU optimization was to turn the fan up. Does cooling your CPU more also lead to ‘dead’? Seriously interested in alternatives you have that can improve performance that lead to ‘less dead’ CPU/GPU? thanks!
@exeray60382 жыл бұрын
@@ParallaxEffect The man's voltages are steadily at 1.4V. That's undervolting for you? It's literally on the upper edge of what you're supposed to be "feeding" the cpu. With a manual bios overclock you can easily achieve even higher overclock with voltages that literally never exceed 1.35V. In my case, i'm running i7 9700k@5ghz and i never go over 1.32V. I don't even HAVE to elaborate on anything, those values speak for themselves.
@ParallaxEffect2 жыл бұрын
@@exeray6038 1. Vcore is constantly changing, not fixed 2. voltage at a given clock speed is dependent on cooling capacity 3. core voltage defaults are different for different chips (12th gen vs 9th gen) 4. each exact chip is different 5. undervolt can be set to be offset vs fixed, so seeing its ‘1.4v, thats not undervolting’ may be wrong, if the undervolt is an offset. So… theres not enough info at all (in about 5 different ways as described) to definitively declare ‘this will make your CPU dead and is the worse advice ever’.
@exeray60382 жыл бұрын
@@ParallaxEffect You've just sputtered so much nonsense, you clearly haven't a clue what you're talking about. Please, educate yourself first, then we can continue this discussion and i can elaborate in more detail.
@exeray60382 жыл бұрын
@@ParallaxEffect Just so i point you in the right direction. 1) Ofcourse Vcore is changing, it's how high it's reaching that's the problem. I'm feeling nauseous just thinking about it lurking over 1.4 at just below 5% cpu utilisation. 2) Completely wrong. Voltage is directly raising the temperature. So taking care of the temperature at a certain voltage is pre-requisite to even start testing cpu operations at a certain power treshold. But high voltage is high voltage, it does not change the fact that high voltages will hurt the cpu no matter what the temperatures are. The optimum rule is keeping the voltage as low as possible, but as high as necessary to keep things stable at a certain frequency. 4. Exactly my point. There's a general consensus you can't just recommend certain OC settings generalized for everyone. And i didn't say anyone's cpu will straight up and die at these settings but you can be DAMN sure it's in pain and won't last nowhere near as long as a cpu that was never oc-ed. I don't even want to know what the voltages look like under heavy load here and i am not very sure it won't burn someone's cpu straight up. Also, i know very well what the voltages for 12th gen SHOULD look like. Now please, before you spout nonsenses around the web just because you ...like how you sound or something, please go read. I've been overclocking since you were in kindergarden. And lastly.....Didn't even bother to do a stress test, let alone recommend it. Lol. You can't get more noob than that.