As a general comment for those who are interested. Yes we have continued to run and evolve the system in question. The car (Pre CV19) was a regular at Autoclub Dragway Fontana, CA. A lot of effort has gone into simplifying the system for the end user. Current focus is on creating a high pressure tank & regulator package that is essentially a "drop in" , no customer hoses, etc.. We have systems we could sell to serious racers (and have actually setup several) but, they require a fair amount of engineering acumen to configure and operate correctly. Hence we have not pushed them. With respect to the Camaro, it runs 12.30 on the motor. At 6 - 7 psi it has run 9.60. At 8- 9 psi it has run 5.77 in the 1/8th (8.94 1/4 equivalent); most of our development work is 1/8 mi stuff as launch and low gear rapid transients have been the most difficult things to sort out. In the above testing we run VP C12, engine timing remains @ N.A. MBT levels (≈ 34° total). No other changes, N.A. to boosted. So, yes it does work, the physics are sound and the system is safe. It has been developed with the same level of scrutiny (engineering design, testing & failure effects analysis) that we have used on high pressure natural gas vehicle systems for years in OEM applications. Our intent is to continue to evolve the concept with an eye towards producing systems that perform well and that fill a niche in the high performance aftermarket.

I wanted so badly to watch this whole video but that high-pitched ringing is just unbearable.

Man I really enjoyed watching this. There's nothing like listening to someone talk about a subject that they have spent so much time thinking about. Just awesome.

I actually did this exact setup back in 1993 - 1994! Still have one of the prototypes of the Eductor here in my garage! Took my car from 16.0 Seconds in a 1/4 mile to a 14.0 flat, and I still had a lot of dial in to go. By the way guys GM did this back in the 1930's! I read about it in an old SAE journal. They scrapped the idea for every day use becuase they were concerned someone would be passing and run out of air / boost half way through the pass. (Liability) If you have any questions or what to see what we developed, I'd be happy to e-mail you a few pics of the one that I have, and the test fixture we designed and built to. (Still have it! )

That buzzing is crazy

That long ass video, not one single clip of a run?

The delivery of the video could've been different yes but I found it extremely fascinating. I love this type of engineering stuff.

I'm glad someone went through the trouble to do this properly. I give these two guys lots of credit on making it work and seemly have done a good job too. Similar to my engine head project... it takes a lot of effort to do development of a brand new thing that no one has done before and figure out all the bugs one at a time. Great explanations too!

I thought of a compressed air system years ago. awesome to see it becoming reality.

My dog has run away thanks guys

Years ago while working on a Ford 302 cid v 8 , while starting and revving the engine I took a standard hi flow cleaning nozzle/gun that was hooked to the shop's 135 psi air supply and blew it into the open carburetor intake. The very noticeable difference in gain of throttle response and performance of the engine was amazing! A short time later I had to run a slightly larger propeller on my Continental 220 gpu powered airboat, I could only get 2700 rpm at the propeller, enough to get around but would leave me stuck on occasional dry ground Lightbulb! I used two aluminium scuba tanks and a fire suppression system high flow dump valve. I quickly achieved the desired 2900/3000 rpm at my propeller through tweaking the system, and being as I only needed the boost at occasional times it worked for me. This was in the mid to late 1990's. Glad to see you guy's doing this.

Why didn't I think of that ? Brilliant guys. I wish you all the best with this project and look forward to seeing this system in practice. Thank you for showing us.

they could've done away with that annoying ringing sound

It seems like most the people in the comments have not watched the video and are asking questions that are all answered in the video. I must be too old to hear the audio problem...or my speakers suck too much, so I actually watched the whole thing. I think the system is brilliant, they have thought about pretty much everything during development, and did a good job designing custom parts for all the tricky points in the system. I feel like the creator should post a FAQ in the description to handle all the questions people are asking. Ah, who am I kidding? That would require a click, reading, and actual brain power before spouting off a stupid comment with their keyboard.

Incredible design and engineering. I cannot imagine how much effort it has taken to achieve such a complex project. You guys are awesome. Thank you for sharing your project, hope to see more...

I've been a car guy all my life, but when I began scuba diving 40 some years ago I got to thinking about the volume of compressed air and wondered if I could use it to supercharge the engine, same idea as yours, but I was just a kid really with no idea of how to increase the flow and regulate it, knew I needed a kind of priority valve in the intake to switch from ambient air to compressed, but didn't know all the details. Now I feel that you've proven I wasn't a nut back then, I just hadn't grown up enough by then to make it happen. I'm glad to see that you brought my dream to life.

So many people hating. Sit back and enjoy these great minds at work! They invented N.O.S, they obviously know their stuff.

Just absolutely love this video!!! I was instructed back in the early 80's about CAS in my High School small engines class. But nobody was doing it. You have made my training relevant.

I designed one of these systems over the span of 2 months. Almost identical yet I managed to make a system without the electronic pressure regulation and still maintain stability. Im roughly 47 years late to create one of these before anyone else. I believe the concept of compressed air into the intake was first invented around 1971. Just wanted to bring this up.

I never knew about the limitations of nitrous, once that is explained compressed air seems obvious to me, massive respect for getting it working

I thought of this system when I was 12 years old. I'm not joking. Around 12 was when I learned how forced induction worked. That summer is also when I got my open water SCUBA cert. I thought one night about why you wouldn't just use a tank of compressed air. Of course at the time I was 12 and had no clue it could be anything more than a passing thought. Fast forward 17 years and I see this video. So cool!

this video has tinnitus

My mechanic ears worked out well. Adjust the hearing and the way of thinking. TUNE IN AND TUNE OUT. Great info all around. Pressure regulator is a must to maintain the PSI. Thank you for the video with great info

I have asked my father who is a retired engineer and weekend drag racer "when younger" so many times about this exact thing I feel so vindicated to know a idea I derived at my self it indeed was very successful maybe its really true what my parents always told me I was engineering naturally inclined. Great video!!

No parasitic loss, no intercooler, super/turbo charger, optimal timing, A/F ratio, adjustable boost pressure. Nice idea, never thought about it. All the effects of turbo charging, supercharging an nos combined in one system.

Nitrous doesnt hurt engines. Bad tuners hurt engines.

Great post. These guys are the best. Outstanding gents!!! I owe Dale more than I could ever say in 2 lifetimes. Karl is top top notch in the field. I see no reason why this will not be a great addition. Love the stuff guys.

I'm glad you got a nitrous guy to talk about this. This answered a lot of my questions off the bat. I think you should reupload this after sending it through a low-pass filter in audiology. That'll clip off those high pitch tones that the young people are complaining about. Personally, I'm pretty happy I can still hear them loud and clear in my mid 30s.

When will this be available to the public? I'm all in.

The blue sweater guy must be a real hoot at parties.

this is an awesome concept in my mind. not sure how much a total system would be yet but the entire concept seems brilliant to me. science in action

I had this idea at 15 yrs old! Glad to see someone else had it as well and did something with it!

Now imagine air compressor brakes and a exhaust or belt driven compressor that can recharge the system on the road!

would have liked to see a bunch of passes

Has alot of time wrapped up in this. Cheers sir nice job.

A very interesting concept and I am glad they are able to bring it to reality,

Great to hear the creators thoughts on how they made it happen! But only 8 psi of boost when you have minimum of 60 psi at the EPR. I want to see someone run an engine with the CAS putting out 50+ psi of boost and running on nitromethane. (but that depends on how long the tanks can maintain that boost pressure) Or even higher boost if its possibly capable of outputting 100 psi (which will probably be hard to contain in the intake tract) And there is an annoying high pitch noise during a lot of the interviews : (

So this is essentially a giant air hog

Dale Vaznaians reaction, at ~1:10, to Karl Staggemeirs, ex-chief engineer at NOS for many years, comment that "nitrous is dangerous" was pure gold!

I love this intellectual man, he knows his numbers...! A VIRTUE !! REPLY Karl Staggemeier

I thought of this years ago. I thought I was insane. I never had a clue about how to execute this concept. Only the idea.

So where do I invest?

If u are ha ing a hard time falling asleep have a listen to these guys.....

I UNDERSTAND THE SCIENCE AND AM AWED BY THESE OLD SCHOOLERS COMING UP WITH YET MORE WAYS TO MAKE POWER. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT ELECTRIC CARS WILL BECOME IN THE RACING ARENA.

As far as weight, anyone ever weight a large turbo or super charger? I would have to say this is lighter. It doesn't need intercooling bc the air is cool already. This is pretty damn interesting.

With the proper Venturi set up in the intake couldn't you maximize on volume with minimal cubic feet from the bottle

I had this idea as soon as I figured out how a turbo charger works. I am glad someone is playing with it :)

The entire sport of racing thanks you for your detication too going fast thank you so,much!!!

someonw put the effort into sound editing a crappy piano track into the video but didnt hear/bother to edit out the 15khz+ buzzing noise?? Do a re upload

Very cool system, great video. The ringing isn't a big deal, too many fruitcakes complaining over nothing. Wish there was a video of the car in action.

id like to see some results from this system setup. whats your timing curve look like whats your fuel pressure and what type of fuel are you running, what are the air temps and your engine temps under load? do a dyno run with and without the system. what are its shortcomings besides having to refill your tanks every pass? whats the total weight of the system?

Please post more content social media is critical to marketing and letting the consumer see what you have to offer and the journey

A turbo reclaims the wasted HEAT energy of an internal combustion engine as hot exaust gasses expand. The turbo is powered (mostly) by waste heat, rather than back pressure. (Sorry, no disrespect intended).Your compressed air idea is one that I abandoned about 40 years ago due to the many cubic feet of air per second that a hungry V8 needs for power. Have you tried this on a small displacement engine? Compressed air was viable on the 100cc 2stroke engine that I was using for my tests. I am happy to see that someone is experimenting to solve the volume of air problem. Compressed air could offer many of the advantages of NOS, but without the expense. I wish you sucess in your exploration. Thanks for listening.

Holy shit. It's like a wet dream come to life.... O.o

this is a most amazing concept to be able to maintain stoichiometry through the and maintain timing(the killer) from detonation while gaining all the aspects of supercharging aka boost (detonation) controlled by proper control simple idea as you say but genius to implement. Love your easily understood definitions and would love to know is this something that would be a direct replacement and game changer in say a top fuel nitro motor, It in my humble opinion would be neat to see a top fuel car launch and watch the throttle plate snap shut, lol crazy cool you are genius i wish I had education and positioned myself to be in a place where I would enjoy my work as much as you. I wish you great success and think you are the next big thing in drag racing, thank you htis was a great video. and your innovation is a eye opener away from convention.

Years ago, I was using compressed air from an industrial compressor to blow out the air filter on a Toyota forklift. The thought of CA Supercharging entered my mind. I started the forklift, floored the throttle then sprayed the compressed air into the inlet. The engine revs increased dramatically, then BOOM! Bye bye engine. I think it over-revd and threw a rod. I think an electronic rev limiter, boost controller, fuel management system would have kept it together. I knew it was something that would work well. This was over 20yrs ago.

NOT Free energy.. its compressed air.. aka stored kinetic energy.. .

TL;DW: [aka save my ears from bleeding] Compressed air as an alternative to turbo charger/super charger/nos Been in development since 2002, expected to hit the market in 2017 Compressed air is better than turbo charger/super charger/nos because it doesn't require special tuning, and doesn't cause inconsistent combustion - touted as safer and alleged to give more boost Doesn't cause same parasitic draw from car as a turbo or super charger does Can only be used in short duration like NOS, due to decompression of air causing condensation Benefit that it cools engine instead of heating it, temperatures wont stabilize in a 1/4mi run Boost up to 11lbs for the engine in test car, can go higher on smaller engines One tank not enough for a run, two tanks is a bit more than needed Pressurized to 3300psi Lots of specialized parts, precision high flow valves, custom carb, and custom computer - no off the shelf parts Air tanks refilled using scuba compressor

Compressed air supercharging was tried in the late 60s and I actually worked on it in the 80s. At the time though cylinders were too HEAVY and carb/fuel injection tech just wasn't there. Its funny because i used to heat and turn the injector tube in at a 45 deg angle on their plate systems in the 80s a year later NOS made that change to their systems. Best of luck guys.

wow just wow such a great idea, no loss to boost the air, no heat generated in that loss, and also the ability to deliver super high boost of idle,

What happens if the tanks were liquid oxygen?

The bottles are facing the driver, if the valve blows out, there are two potential rockets aimed right at the drivers head lol. Pretty cool idea. Not exactly new, but cool non the less

Great work guys!!

These some super smart individuals. Any one can be an idea's guy. To exicute this was more then just genius.

What if you wreck? I'm sure the guy made sure they're caged in well....

The engineer was at NO2 for 27 years. The other guy founded NO2 and was the inventor of the system. Most of you don't know what you're talking about. This provides COLD, fridgid cold boost on a MILD motor. That's a single 4bbl 400 hp 350 SBC making 900-1000 hp that will run ALL season, and not needing pistons, (and the associated replacement costs), or high dollar head, etc. With the deluxe air comp setup, and the system, (they said what the system might cost), you probably have the cost of a BBC blower motor, done right. Instead of melting pistons, eating valves, and all then engne maintenance, and tuning challenges, you run a 9.5:1, hydraulic cam 350, and get 900-1000. It is a NO brainer, and will be the next huge thing in drag racing. In 10-15 years, NO2 will be old, and outdated, and compressed air will be THE thing to have. Just watch... I've been watching, (and building engines and cars), since the '60's; I've already seen what advanced metallurgy has done, then what turbos have done, and what NO2 has done. THIS is next...

This is very interesting stuff, something I've thought about before but could never visualize. Seems to me though that you could make the whole system much more efficient, by injecting the compressed air directly into the cylinder during the compression stroke of the engine. Of course you'd really need a fuel injection engine to go along with it. Just seems to me like pressurizing the entire intake system is wasted energy

Wow it’s funny I came across this video I was wondering if it was possible to use compressed air but my thoughts where there isn’t enough capacity in anything I could use such as a air bomb. That man is a genius I would have never been able to figure that system out

The very high pitched whining in the background made this video unwatchable for me. I really was interested in it too but now my tinnitus is going crazy after only a fee minutes of watching

Yep the squealing is killing me!

You guy's are the ones to through things at . Thanks for keeping an open mind . Why not flow through the exhaust valves with exhaust flowing out the normal intake side ? Would save lots of money on that gain . Thanks be

but can the engine handle the pressure? can the stock manifold bolts, head cylinder bolts hold up or do you have to convert to studs?

First problem I see is not an LS!

I'm guessing this is more of a "can we do this" thing than a "should we do this" cause the answers are obviously different to the two questions. Anyway cool idea but just a experiment obviously.

I did invent this in a dream about 20 years ago but I think my Dad talked me out of the whole idea. Its late I wonder if I am dreaming right now because this is totally radical awesome .

Incredible i'm very impressed and i want this system as soon as it is available, I think these two gentlemen are in a new age of race technology. Please let me know when it is available to purchase, Thanks for the video..

....this an old april fools joke?

10k.........sorry guys way to much cash for one pass.

Am I right in thinking that the engine runs on a regular air intake but switches to the compressed air via a simple one way valve when the compressed air psi is x amount higher than the regular intake psi?

You could run just an air pump with compressed gas through it & get down the track. Don't know how fast but just wondering. That's great that you guys are getting it sorted out.

compressor in the trunk ! :)

with a turbo you make power from waste which is power from nothing am i wrong?

Thanks your the AWSOME bro pls make more

WOW! that’s AWSOME! I wonder how this would help my 1 ton 7.3L Ford Diesel with a heavy load, pull thru the mountains? would this be a feasible alternative to using NO2 for a boost of power?

Wouldn't it have been better to attach a turbine wheel in the driveline and use the compressed air to drive that instead?

this sucks! all the extra weight , for maybe 20seconds of boost, its a cool project but it doesn't make sense at all, theirs a reason people use superchargers turbos and nitrous, and not reserves of compressed air.. the parasitic losses would be less the the weight added If you consider you get 20 seconds of boost vs unlimited boost. I see it as more of a nitrous eqivalnt though nitrous is just as safe as boost if you're set up for it , boost will blow motors easily if you're not set up for it too. but a nitrous kit is super cheap easy to install and light everything this kit is not! everyone who's giving boost some thought has thought of this idea , and realized it was dumb theirs no money here its more of a science project.

Just when I thought I had come up with a new idea, I find out it's already been done!

We as gearheads sacrifice safety for light weight horse power. If your complaining about safety your not in the game. I love how passionate people teach. These guys put in the time. They put in a lot of effort. My hat's off to you gentlemen. Shade tree physics !!! I love the Carburetor Diffusers (Hats) . Made by Hooker , also come in a long tube version 😂🤣.

No such thing as something for nothing in physics, there's always a cost. This one may be weight but without hands on access no way to know.

Only really useful in a short drag race and nothing more

So this is a system that augments the combustion generator compression with compressed air compression. So once running you could switch off the fuel flow and it would run until the compressed air tank is empty?

love it did you guy have to do the rings on pistons or you dont have to because it air

I've got a better idea, ride a horse...

@3:48 Guy in the Dodgers shirt looks like the product of someone who sucked on a NOS tank 1 2 many times....wtf sloth

So, some guy who may, or may not of, been me worked medical supply, and may have run a straight shot of oxygen through a buddies air intake on a 90's Dodge Neon. It was pretty incredible for a 6 or 7 second stretch. He hadn't touched the gas for a couple seconds, and we were still accelerating. He drove the car for another year after that and never noticed any engine damage.

Have you all looked into having an air compressor with a clutch that engages when the engine is idle and disangage as soon as the break pedal is lifted past a particular point, as to not have the disengagement take any power from the launch?

7k just buy a new motor

How do you fill the tanks after each run at the track? Dose this mean there is a lot of support equpment you need ? How much weight is added to the car?

there is a high pitched whine in the audio, not sure what that's from, but it's certainly there. I have really good hearing, I'm not surprised some don't hear it (to be expected), the pitch is up there.

I am curious how difficult it would be to install this system onto an aircraft engine to mitigate the power loss at altitude. I think this would be a perfect solution to giving an aircraft engine power at altitude compared with a turbo or supercharger. What kind of weight penalty would you be looking at for this system and how long would the compressed air last on a 3.1L engine?