Condo owners blindsided by $100K assessment fees in Volusia County

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Ай бұрын

There are now just six months left before the state-wide deadline for condo buildings to get their mandatory engineering assessments done. In Volusia County, this costs over $100,000 per condo owner at one building.

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@MichaelBrown-ny3et
@MichaelBrown-ny3et Ай бұрын
You won’t be able to give a condo away next year.
@righteousone1
@righteousone1 Ай бұрын
Reap what you sow! Florida housing market always crashes hard.
@chrisjenkins203
@chrisjenkins203 3 күн бұрын
My Florida condo has soared in value. Two story buildings and the property is beautifully kept. New roofs last year, new pavement this year and plenty in the reserves. It just depends if the HOA is run by a bunch of retirees that don’t know what they’re doing or if it’s people that know how to manage a property properly.
@righteousone1
@righteousone1 3 күн бұрын
@@chrisjenkins203 It will be worth 60% less after 5 years lol.
@chrisjenkins203
@chrisjenkins203 2 күн бұрын
@@righteousone1 👌 sure it will 😂
@righteousone1
@righteousone1 2 күн бұрын
@@chrisjenkins203 Nothing stays up forever. You're in for a shock of a lifetime.
@bruceclement9357
@bruceclement9357 Ай бұрын
Why are owners surprised by this? You lived on the cheap for decades in an environment that erodes steel and concrete. Instead of saving for repairs, or keeping them up along the way, now it's a lump sum. It was a gamble and unfortunately you lost. No dumping it on a future owner. Or worse. A catastrophe.
@user-kk3qg5el1m
@user-kk3qg5el1m Ай бұрын
Yep and off the backs of us that don’t live on the beach. They are the reason insurance has skyrocketing. They need to ban where these homes and condos can be built
@mikewinston8709
@mikewinston8709 Ай бұрын
Entirely correct….they were greedy and got caught out.
@emichels
@emichels Ай бұрын
Yup, it has to be paid and it can't be passed on to a new owner. They just need to drop the price and cut and run. Crazy that they didn't mention the name/address of the building for viewers to be wary of.
@tringuyen7519
@tringuyen7519 Ай бұрын
Most condo associations have been preparing for inspections & renovations deadlines for 3 years already. Why did these condo owners ignore the deadline?
@UpUpDnDnLtRtLtRtBAStart
@UpUpDnDnLtRtLtRtBAStart Ай бұрын
@@user-kk3qg5el1m​​⁠location on the beach is not what’s causing insurance increases. It’s being in the storm territory that consumes all of Florida. It will soon happen to the lower midwest states as they keep getting pumped w tornadoes. Insurance is a failed dying industry.
@WasThatWong
@WasThatWong Ай бұрын
They put off maintenance for years. Time to pay.
@carolynwheaton8547
@carolynwheaton8547 Ай бұрын
They did not put off paying money for repairs.People use it for other things.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 27 күн бұрын
@@carolynwheaton8547 Yes, the HOA’s of every building in Florida stole their money. Or the other possibility is they didn’t do the maintenance and they didn’t keep any reserves. You can push all the conspiracy theories you want they did this to themselves.
@markp.7165
@markp.7165 15 күн бұрын
People see what they want to see so the owners chose to ignore things that clearly need repairs or replacement. Condo associations are usually run by people who know nothing about building maintenance and are looking out for their own self interests so they kept the fees far lower than they should have been.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 15 күн бұрын
@@markp.7165 Condo associations keep fees lower because that’s why they were elected. I remember my association sending me a letter that they were saving me two dollars per month. My first thought was you wasted money sending me a letter saying you’re gonna save me two dollars. You should’ve used it to fix something. Surfside and other condo associations are in the news because they’re fighting their assessments. This one is complaining about huge assessment, but not a single part of the article or any of them said what the money needed to be used for other than defective roofs. Sounds like they were soft peddling the amount of damage.
@stockey
@stockey Ай бұрын
They're rushing to sell their condos, but nobody wants them.
@whelmanlandry
@whelmanlandry Ай бұрын
Insurance won’t write new policy’s either
@Phil-G1075
@Phil-G1075 Ай бұрын
If I was an owner of a condo in Florida, I would start an owners affiliation club and fight back against the building owners for my rights. Building inspections or limited building life expectancy was not in my contract of purchasing sales. I purchased a unit within a building associated with fees to maintain buildings, but not, structural engineering. Period End of story.
@righteousone1
@righteousone1 Ай бұрын
But I thought moving to Florida was the greatest thing in history?
@steven4315
@steven4315 29 күн бұрын
@@Phil-G1075 Building owners are the condo owners, they gonna sue themselves?
@ifihadsmesumchicken6276
@ifihadsmesumchicken6276 28 күн бұрын
@@steven4315 I would! Teach myself a lesson!🙃
@viningscircle
@viningscircle Ай бұрын
People won't be able to even sell a condo with that millstone strapped to it.
@SarahRamsingh
@SarahRamsingh 29 күн бұрын
Most can't pass new inspection standards.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 27 күн бұрын
Sure you can you just sell it for less money and realize your investment is now worth $100,000 less.
@JBoy340a
@JBoy340a Ай бұрын
This is a failure of the state Government at multiple levels. They know the environment and the stress and wear it can put on buildings. They should have made the Condo Association require to have much larger reserves for maintenance, but that would meant higher monthly HOA fees which impact sales of the units. It is the old pay me now or pay me later story. And paying later is always more painful.
@saneasthenextguy196
@saneasthenextguy196 Ай бұрын
Why is it the governments job to make people maintain their properties? I thought Florida was all about getting the government off the people's backs. I keep hearing people in Florida are sick of the government telling them what to do.
@stevekru6518
@stevekru6518 28 күн бұрын
Paying later is not “always more painful” as shown by studying the vast majority of entrepreneurs who borrowed money and deferred payments while building Microsoft, Alphabet, Apple, Meta, Fed Ex, as well as the vast majority of independent small businesses.
@bruceclement9357
@bruceclement9357 28 күн бұрын
They wouldn't get votes if they did that.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 27 күн бұрын
That’s just nanny state talk. The people of Florida are free. They’re allowed to not maintain their buildings if that’s what they want to do. Or at least that used to be true.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 27 күн бұрын
@@stevekru6518 apples and oranges. If you let a building sustain weather damage. It gets worse as water seeps 2:26 in. So it cost you even more long-term. Now, if you use the money that you didn’t spend on maintaining the building for a valuable investment sure you could come out ahead. But that doesn’t appear to be the case here.
@user-kk3qg5el1m
@user-kk3qg5el1m Ай бұрын
They want to live there they need to pay for making sure it’s safe. Don’t expect us that don’t live on the water to pay for it. Should’ve stayed up north.
@eddieBoxer
@eddieBoxer Ай бұрын
Don't live in Florida, it's way more expensive than NYC.
@righteousone1
@righteousone1 Ай бұрын
@@eddieBoxer It's also a cesspit for fraud, even though it's a police state.
@venom5809
@venom5809 26 күн бұрын
I am sure Blackrock will snap them up on the cheap.
@nwalker2619
@nwalker2619 5 күн бұрын
Yep
@carymarshallfelton9188
@carymarshallfelton9188 Ай бұрын
I got lucky and unloaded my Tampa condo years ago. Special assessments were adding up back then too.
@MrTeamFoolish
@MrTeamFoolish Ай бұрын
He's a snowbird I think he can afford it
@benlevy48
@benlevy48 Ай бұрын
Not all snowbirds have that much money 💰
@mcc-us
@mcc-us Ай бұрын
@@benlevy48 Yea, it's called living above your means. Common American mistake.
@BM_100
@BM_100 25 күн бұрын
​​@@benlevy48 Yes they do. How many people can afford 2 houses? Most people can't even afford to own 1
@justinrus1823
@justinrus1823 Ай бұрын
Well HOA managers have been misusing those fees after decades instead of towards maintaining the buildings. Not rocket science
@cheesecakefan4880
@cheesecakefan4880 Ай бұрын
Right But now owners are liable? What a scam
@Gk2003m
@Gk2003m Ай бұрын
That’s what you get when you’re looking to scam everyone yourself. Real estate priced too good to be true? Well guess what? It was too good to be true. Hate govt regulation? Bet you now wish, after that condo collapse, there had been more regulation.
@EarthSurfer
@EarthSurfer Ай бұрын
Prior to the CTS collapse, OWNERS could vote to NOT fund Reserves separately from the Operating budget. It was common practice to not fund Reserves and manage major repairs & replacements by Special Assessments. Florida law changed as a result of the CTS collapse, and many other states are looking at similar Reserve funding requirements.
@Gk2003m
@Gk2003m Ай бұрын
@@EarthSurfer Thus realizing the **true** cost of housing in those states. As opposed to the fictional “lower cost of living” routinely claimed by those states in order to get folks to move there.
@Erin-rg3dw
@Erin-rg3dw Ай бұрын
​@EarthSurfer Living in a condo association elsewhere, that practice baffles me. I'd rather pay small increments over the long term to have reserves and such covered for when things do need repair/replacement, rather than surprise lump sums for everything. My HOA had a special assessment last year because excessive rain had caused damage and parts to fail much earlier than anticipated. Nothing anyone could do, but we'd been gathering reserves for that project.
@psjasker
@psjasker Ай бұрын
Wow! A news reporter who can break down an issue clearly with details in two minutes. Refreshing … WKMG hit the jackpot with this young lady.
@chrisjenkins203
@chrisjenkins203 3 күн бұрын
Is this your daughter or something?
@fldon2306
@fldon2306 Ай бұрын
Too many Condo Boards have been living “on the cheap” and deferring maintenance for so long… Sad part is those original owners are dead and new owners are getting stuck!!
@jannibal9273
@jannibal9273 28 күн бұрын
Anybody contemplating buying a property - or any other costly item (such as a motor vehicle, a motor boat, etc.) needs to do their due diligence. Most Americans don't bother and then they're stuck. Consider some of the owners in that condo with the $100,000 assessment hanging over their heads. They're not millionaires, they can't find a buyer for the kind of money they want, they'll get ONLY low ball offers - so they're stuck. They can't sell unless they potentially take a loss, unless they paid a really low low price for those condos back in the "la la" days, so they stand to lose everything AND possibly have to file for bankruptcy if they're carrying a mortgage on their unit.
@fldon2306
@fldon2306 28 күн бұрын
@@jannibal9273 Agree! To the point, Florida just changed the rules/laws regulating condos, where an architectural inspection must be done, delinquent maintenance must be completed ASAP, and condo boards must have financial reserves at a high level (don’t quote me, but maybe the value of the property, so, essentially self insured). These changes require these huge assessments, and, yes, some solvent owners are just walking away since no one is buying!
@paulboring9053
@paulboring9053 Ай бұрын
I would never buy a condo. It’s not really yours. U are not the boss. F that.
@rosemary6907
@rosemary6907 Ай бұрын
GET ON THE BOARD!!! You are everyone's BOSS!
@TommyVXOLucia
@TommyVXOLucia 26 күн бұрын
​@@rosemary6907cringe
@Dog.soldier1950
@Dog.soldier1950 Ай бұрын
“Deferred maintenance “. Always catches up with you.
@rosemary6907
@rosemary6907 Ай бұрын
My current Condo Board uses the PADDED Deferred Maintenance line item in Budget like PETTY CASH 😡
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 27 күн бұрын
@@rosemary6907 Defer preferred maintenance is not a good thing. I can’t see how you would convert it to cash. But if you don’t like the way, your condo is managing your property then vote for someone different, or run yourself.
@rosemary6907
@rosemary6907 27 күн бұрын
@@neilkurzman4907 Appreciate your reply! Did not mean current Board changes Deferred Maintenance into CASH ☺, they use line item, LIKE Petty Cash, instead of putting in next year Budget. Was on Board for 5 years, health reasons stopped me from running again, as I would be unable to handle FULL TIME, which a Board position deserves! Most units are selling to INVESTORS, 🥲who do not run for Board, but hoping some new people do especially since a very competent Property Manager has been hired!!!
@Tugela60
@Tugela60 11 күн бұрын
​@rosemary6907 They can't. Extraordinary expenses outside of the budget have to be approved by the owners, even if the money is coming from the contingency fund and not a special assessment. The board can't just spend that money as they please. If your board is doing that then you need a new board, since they are likely breaking the law.
@MoonlightSonata214
@MoonlightSonata214 Ай бұрын
Unfortunately, much of this is the fault of the condo management/boards of directors as they have passed the buck year after year and not fully funded their reserves as they have always been required to do. Now they have been caught with their pants down because the condo collapse in Surfside has resulted in this law where all of the condos have to be inspected and come into compliance NOW.
@MS-ty8eq
@MS-ty8eq Ай бұрын
They did what the Boomers wanted them to do.
@goldgeologist5320
@goldgeologist5320 Ай бұрын
Disposable housing! Welcome to the garbage of Florida!
@subicstationditosailor4053
@subicstationditosailor4053 Ай бұрын
Do you live here or are you talking out your 🫏?
@eddieBoxer
@eddieBoxer Ай бұрын
This is the reason i only rent an apartment, no HOA, no assessment.
@goldgeologist5320
@goldgeologist5320 Ай бұрын
@@subicstationditosailor4053 I lived there in past and have family that are suffering.
@rosemary6907
@rosemary6907 Ай бұрын
@@eddieBoxer FREE RENT???????
@righteousone1
@righteousone1 Ай бұрын
They said move to Florida, you'll be better off LMAO
@bricks-mortar
@bricks-mortar Ай бұрын
After, the assessments are paid, the condo association will sell the building, then everyone will be forced to sell out, at lowball offers.
@bubbajones4522
@bubbajones4522 Ай бұрын
These owners all voted to underfund their reserves and to put off doing needed repairs. I feel zero remorse for them.
@jasoncrandall73
@jasoncrandall73 Ай бұрын
​​@@bubbajones4522 Totally agree. Not all do that. But the ones that do are now finding out they are caught with their pants down. I lived in a 89 unit condo association for ten years in Bradenton FL ('02-'12) they had a detailed budget with reserves.
@isocarboxazid
@isocarboxazid Ай бұрын
@@bubbajones4522Yep. Sucks to be them.
@michaelchavez9094
@michaelchavez9094 Ай бұрын
The condo association does not own the building, they cannot sell it. If the building is sold it will be the decision of the owners.
@jasoncrandall73
@jasoncrandall73 Ай бұрын
@@michaelchavez9094 If a majority of the owners vote to sell.
@garymunson2493
@garymunson2493 19 күн бұрын
Serviced elevators on the beach for years. We had a saying that you can spend your money or spend your elevators. Those who chose the latter were like the boards of many condos, kicking the can down the road until a HUGE expense happens. Little sympathy for those who certainly knew better but hoped they could sell in time and dodge the inevitable.
@Buy_YT_Views.610
@Buy_YT_Views.610 Ай бұрын
Your humor and wit make this video so entertaining to watch.😄
@Caocao8888
@Caocao8888 29 күн бұрын
Teacher didn’t do her homework. AND she sure didn’t learn how to save for retirement.
@jannibal9273
@jannibal9273 28 күн бұрын
What AVERAGE American has $100K laying around for a special assessment? That's ridiculous. So what happens to owners who CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY THE $100K? The retired teacher who went back to work is deluding herself if she thinks that coughing up $100K for the special assessment is going to somehow repay her back. But - we see every day how people can delude themselves into believing anything.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 27 күн бұрын
Well, if your property has equity, you can get $100,000 loan against the property. Otherwise you’re only choices to sell. And if you bought it recently, that means your mortgage is underwater and the only way you can get out of it is walking away and taking a loss, then it becomes the bank problem
@Tugela60
@Tugela60 11 күн бұрын
You take out a second mortgage or get a loan from the bank.
@missinformed9550
@missinformed9550 Ай бұрын
The first condo collapse was the canary in the coal mine. Why anyone would purchase a condo in Florida boggles the mind, defies logic. 😅
@rosemary6907
@rosemary6907 Ай бұрын
Not all condos are by the Ocean or built on SAND!!
@missinformed9550
@missinformed9550 Ай бұрын
@@rosemary6907 True but contractors cut corners where they can and this shows up decades later, often when the contractor is retired or deceased. Same is true for many developments in the desert, where again the contractors cut corners and build homes that are far from up to code.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 27 күн бұрын
I’m sure there were plenty well-run condominiums in Florida. But you don’t hear about those because they don’t have problems and they’ve kept up with their maintenance. We only hear about the badly run ones.
@mikemann1638
@mikemann1638 Ай бұрын
Nobody in their right mind would buy a condo in these times they are now worthless
@jannibal9273
@jannibal9273 28 күн бұрын
People in their right mind wouldn't buy a condo in Florida - or any other coastal areas for that matter. People have been flooding to beach areas in North and South CArolina - and guess what, the same issues are developing there as developed in Florida. Potential buyers just don't educate themselves about what is actually happening with climate change, insurance costs, coastal erosion, land subsidence, ocean rise, etc. before deciding "Oh honey, I want a beautiful condo (or house) on the beach." Does anybody think a real estate broker desperate for a deal and a commission is going to tell them the truth?
@UpStreamLivn
@UpStreamLivn Ай бұрын
Mother Nature will decide, that's something propaganda won't tell u?
@cocoa_pacific
@cocoa_pacific Ай бұрын
This is why hiring a good real estate attorney is invaluable. They would have been able to find out there is a large assement coming up and the buyer could have backed out of the purchase.
@dorothyharris6596
@dorothyharris6596 Ай бұрын
They would have a hard time getting insurance anyway
@Tugela60
@Tugela60 11 күн бұрын
These are charges that result from changes in the law after the Surfside collapse. If you bought prior to the law being enacted you (and your attorney) would not have known about the upcoming assessment since even the condo board didn't know about it.
@eyelovecolorado2195
@eyelovecolorado2195 Ай бұрын
Everyone should have expected this after the surface collapse! I don’t even live in a condo and saw this coming miles away!!
@user-jn9gv9ve6e
@user-jn9gv9ve6e Ай бұрын
how could you not know it's been on the news for over 2 years. if you think it will be worth more you live in la la land. the market is going to be flooded with condo's. people should have been selling 2 years ago.
@JBoy340a
@JBoy340a Ай бұрын
Some did right after Surfside. These people are waiting to the last few months.
@chrisjenkins203
@chrisjenkins203 3 күн бұрын
I’ve owned my condo in Florida for 15+ years. They’re two story buildings, beautifully kept, new roofs last year, new paving this year. Only one assessment in that 15 years of 2K . Property values have soared in this community because we’ve always had a responsible and properly run HOA. Not a bunch of retirees that are afraid to approve an annual increase of 20 bucks lol. Good luck to all the people in three stories and higher that have chosen to neglect the reserves…
@altheacbarnes2522
@altheacbarnes2522 Ай бұрын
Many knew this was coming why didn't they plan ahead - Were the BOD and management companies sleeping?
@Tugela60
@Tugela60 11 күн бұрын
Usually when extraordinary maintenance that requires special assessments are proposed, owners vote them down, so the maintenace is never done. What is different now is that changes in the law require them to get this all done now, so there is a huge sticker shock.
@ag-bk5wf
@ag-bk5wf Ай бұрын
Blindsided....I think it's been common now.
@jimmbear3998
@jimmbear3998 20 күн бұрын
Wow $100k in Volusia County is crazy as that isn’t even an upscale area. I am in a tiny 1988 built Florida home and my monthly mortgage and homeowners insurance come to about $1,300 per month, no assessment fees, no HOA fees! At one point I thought maybe getting a condo as my yard is hard to maintain but so glad I did not get a condo. With skyrocketing insurance costs and crazy condo HOA assessments and monthly fees I would never consider a condo in Florida. IMHO you are better off renting or saving for a small home with no HOA.
@GW-gz8jh
@GW-gz8jh 5 күн бұрын
Most people can’t afford a small home and with the way rent is now, they cannot afford to save either. The average apartment in many areas of FL is running around $1800-2k/mo
@steven4315
@steven4315 29 күн бұрын
We researched retiring in Florida. Bottom line was we couldn't afford it even if the condo was free. We are very comfortable in a Midwest state and we don't even need to touch our savings.
@jannibal9273
@jannibal9273 28 күн бұрын
And you'll be generally safer in whatever Midwest state you are living in - climate wise. Yes, there will be increased heat and humidity, and more potential flooding due to increasing shifting and more violent and severe storm patterns, but overall, the Midwest is one of the best places to remain in the USA and have the ability to survive and live a fairly reasonable life. There are Midwest areas where retirees (such as me) also have easy access to top rate medical care and housing costs are still reasonable. I live in a city, there is entertainment - a symphony, opera, live theatres, museums, great family neighborhoods at still reasonable prices, and Lake Michigan - so beautiful and gives us fresh clean water.
@steven4315
@steven4315 28 күн бұрын
@@jannibal9273 Sounds great. Not sure if I would drink water out of Lake Michigan.
@_Makeitmakesense_
@_Makeitmakesense_ 5 күн бұрын
The problem with these is that after 10, 20, 30+ years to put away money in your reserve for "just in case" measures. They neglected the idea that major repairs might be forced, thus why this situation is happening
@davidbutton880
@davidbutton880 Ай бұрын
I do feel bad. Kinda sucks. However, if I owned a condo in a High rise In Florida after the June 2021 collapse of Champlain Towers, I would have sold 6 months later. It was only a matter of time before the hammer came down and new laws were passed, inevitably leading to major assessment and repair fees.
@rosemary6907
@rosemary6907 Ай бұрын
My Florida County HEIGHT is 3 stories, no high rises!!!
@Tugela60
@Tugela60 11 күн бұрын
​@@rosemary6907Low rises have huge issues as well, most of them are due for massive assessments at some point. They have the same problem of owners not being willing to pay for maintenance that the high rises have, in fact many of them are even worse since it is easier to hide problems with them than it is with a high rise. Often all that is needed is a regular fresh coat of paint to conceal the fact that the structural support is rotting away.
@stphinkle
@stphinkle Ай бұрын
Wonder what will become of the buildings. I think a lot of people are going to move or default on the assessment. Asking each person to cough up $100K in a lump sum out of thin area with so many living paycheck to paycheck is unreasonable. I also wonder what happens to the building if the majority of owners cannot pay? Foreclosure? The building becomes abandoned? It gets turned into apartments? Other?
@kd6281
@kd6281 Ай бұрын
The next new "OVER-PRICED high rise" will replace it (land grab). Rinse repeat !
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 27 күн бұрын
Of course it’s unreasonable. What’s your solution? The government should give them money? Would that be the state of Florida or the federal government? The owners of the building let the condition deteriorate and didn’t keep any reserves. Who do you think is going to save them from their bad decision
@user-kk3qg5el1m
@user-kk3qg5el1m Ай бұрын
These people have lived very cheap on the beaches in Florida over the years. That’s all over now. Other citizens will not be picking up the tab. You want to wake up everyday by the beach you got to pay up.
@ronbennett7885
@ronbennett7885 Ай бұрын
Beachside condos are good for about 20 years before requiring a lot of maintenance. The $100K+ assessment buys time, but eventually the work needs to be done again. Way to avoid such large assessments in the future is paying much higher monthly fees to build up a large, sufficient reserve.
@irwinsaltzman979
@irwinsaltzman979 Ай бұрын
Thank you
@Tugela60
@Tugela60 11 күн бұрын
That will never pass at the AGM. Owners don't want to spend money.
@irwinsaltzman979
@irwinsaltzman979 11 күн бұрын
@@Tugela60 I agree owners donot want to spend money. But leaking roofs, pealing siding, broken sidewalks will surely limit value of the condos. BY the way what is AGM ?
@Tugela60
@Tugela60 11 күн бұрын
@@irwinsaltzman979 Annual general meeting. Owners have that every year to elect the board, approve proposed rule changes, approve the budget and approve special assessments. In urgent circumstances there may be extraordinary meetings held as well to approve expenditures or bylaw changes outside of that.
@wharris1354
@wharris1354 26 күн бұрын
Mine was just checked out this past year. No where near that cost. Yes is did cost us all a new assessment but it was well worth it. Next will be sprinklers in the common areas and one inside each of our doorways. The building was built in the 70s so you have to maintain things and bring them up to new codes.
@specialized29er86
@specialized29er86 Ай бұрын
Sure $100,000 for the report and then what hundreds of thousands to bring them up to code.
@jannibal9273
@jannibal9273 28 күн бұрын
Why would it cost $3 million plus for just an engineering report? Something smells to high heaven here. Welcome to Florida, folks!
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 27 күн бұрын
No, it’s not $100,000 for the report. It’s $100,000 for the report and the repairs. But sure you can expect it to go a little over budget and have a couple of tens of thousands of dollars in the future and of course the common charges are going to go up to what they should’ve been to begin with.
@donnicholson3170
@donnicholson3170 Ай бұрын
I guess they couldn't really afford to live there in the end.
@user-ty2yb1iy2o
@user-ty2yb1iy2o Ай бұрын
Sorry but if you have 2 homes, can't feel sorry for you. Many people struggling with the idea of never being able to own a home. At least if you rent, walk away!
@wd8085
@wd8085 Ай бұрын
This is exactly what greed looks like. Every company is doing it so prepare to live in debt forever.
@righteousone1
@righteousone1 Ай бұрын
Greed and corruption. Florida's housing market always crashes hard, and this time around will be no exception.
@chrisjenkins203
@chrisjenkins203 3 күн бұрын
Your comment is *EXACTLY* what uninformed ignorance looks like 🤷
@PelosiStockPortfolio
@PelosiStockPortfolio Ай бұрын
If these boomers would stop wasting their money on avocado toast and starbucks they could afford their condo assessment fees. They just need to work harder like I do.
@raydemos1181
@raydemos1181 28 күн бұрын
if she is a retired teacher, she should be smart enough not to live in a HOA condo, I would not want her teaching me anything
@Tugela60
@Tugela60 11 күн бұрын
All condos have HOAs.
@danielterry382
@danielterry382 Ай бұрын
It is almost as if the Previous owners of the Condo's where slum Landlords in the Monies where not set aside to cover emergencies. The newest owners now in a real bind.
@jc1836
@jc1836 16 күн бұрын
These assessments I'm hearing about seem grossly inflated. Has there been a bidding process for the actual work that needs to be done now? How is the amount needed for future repairs determined, how far out are the current owners expected to cover, and why aren't the HOA fees going toward the future costs (raise the fees if needed)? It just seems like either the law is poorly written, condo associations are misinterpreting the law, or some kind of fraud is occurring in order to steal these condos out from under people and sell to developers. The building doesn't look poorly maintained.
@markmallett7521
@markmallett7521 Ай бұрын
That's pretty funny. The outrageous assessments will add value to the condos? Or will it scare away future buyers because they are afraid of additional special assessment fees down the line.
@ronbennett7885
@ronbennett7885 Ай бұрын
Yeah, special assessments aren't adding value. With that said, there are still plenty of buyers with money buying them. The typical retiree is being priced out. Florida used to be cheap. Now it's among the most expensive states.
@jannibal9273
@jannibal9273 28 күн бұрын
Even without the threat of gigantic assessments in the future, why would ANY PERSON IN THEIR RIGHT MIND buy ANY property in Florida. We know what's going to happen to two-thirds of the state - sinking into the ocean, for pete's sake. There's already issues in the interior with salination of underground water aquifers, and despite people claiming "oh, it's only the coastal areas that are dangerous to live in," tornadoes and flooding are increasing in interior areas and in northern Florida. The state is Exhibit A for the case proving global climate change. It's not going to get better, folks.
@neilkurzman4907
@neilkurzman4907 27 күн бұрын
No, that’s him hoping that he didn’t just throw $100,000 down a rat hole. It’s not going to bring up the value of the condos. It’s going to maintain them at best.
@TheRealEdStoner
@TheRealEdStoner 9 күн бұрын
When the government makes things mandatory the cost skyrockets.
@zcvxs
@zcvxs Ай бұрын
I used to love visiting and wanted to move but just unreal whats happening to soo many people
@navajojohn9448
@navajojohn9448 Ай бұрын
Are commercial buildings like hotels, office, etc included in being inspected and funded?
@rosemary6907
@rosemary6907 Ай бұрын
Did not hear that!!!
@jannibal9273
@jannibal9273 28 күн бұрын
SB 154 only applies to "condominium and cooperative associations." And the building must be 3 stories or taller. So - no, commercial buildings are NOT covered by SB 154. Gee, I wonder why...
@cudafish9594
@cudafish9594 Ай бұрын
A condo is the worst investment you will ever make. Better off to rent as needed.
@rosemary6907
@rosemary6907 Ай бұрын
Horrific advice!! Renters are treated disrespectfully, always, everywhere!!!! Try for a small Single Family? NEVER A TRAILER even if you can own lot!!! A trailer gets a License plate, not a DEED!! Landlords are GREEDY SOBs
@cudafish9594
@cudafish9594 29 күн бұрын
@@rosemary6907 yeah brainless, tell that to all the condo owners who are being forced out of their homes because of high insurance, HOA, repair costs that are killing them! Save your stupidities for someone who doesn't know better, like a 2nd grader.
@mikewinston8709
@mikewinston8709 Ай бұрын
They weren’t built correctly in the first place…..😂😂😂
@ShoNuff26
@ShoNuff26 Ай бұрын
Not true
@jackwilson3121
@jackwilson3121 Ай бұрын
This is what happens when you defer maintenance on a building
@jakel3424
@jakel3424 Ай бұрын
Stop moving to Florida
@cudafish9594
@cudafish9594 Ай бұрын
Yes, please stay up north with your crime and high taxes and progressive values! 😂
@purplesprigs
@purplesprigs Ай бұрын
Bite your tongue. EVERYONE needs to move here. Get those condo people house hunting. Drive up my home value so I can sell.
@mistiinseattle
@mistiinseattle Ай бұрын
It's not only florida. I stupidly bought a condo in Seattle and same thing was happening. Fortunately the market got hot and I was able to sell.
@rosemary6907
@rosemary6907 Ай бұрын
@@mistiinseattle The ANTIFA Seattle????
@mistiinseattle
@mistiinseattle Ай бұрын
@@rosemary6907 lol actually I left that disaster and moved to the Midwest. :)
@user-kk3qg5el1m
@user-kk3qg5el1m Ай бұрын
I bet the previous owner is breathing sigh of relief he dodge a falling knife.
@Landis_Grant
@Landis_Grant 13 күн бұрын
They can subtract the amount of the assessment from their asking price and maybe they will sell.
@Tugela60
@Tugela60 11 күн бұрын
No, the assessment has been made, they have to pay it, even if they sell the condo.
@mark33328
@mark33328 19 күн бұрын
Hardly blindsided. This has been coming since Sunny Isles condo collapse. Smart people sold 2 years ago.
@TheCreoleSon89
@TheCreoleSon89 Ай бұрын
Now I can show my mom these videos so she doesn’t buy one of these condos.
@moneyindabank
@moneyindabank Ай бұрын
Condos are trash. Always a fee for this and that. Owning a home is priceless.
@cheesecakefan4880
@cheesecakefan4880 Ай бұрын
I grew up in Fla I left 13y ago Fla is a mess now I dont even visit anymore I miss old Fla Before Disney
@half-breed
@half-breed Ай бұрын
Yeah in Florida your house will get flooded and blown apart on a regular basis while you can't get insurance. That's priceless LMAO 🤣😂
@langhamp8912
@langhamp8912 Ай бұрын
Condos are just trailer parks in disguise. Exactly like a trailer park contract, you own the home but never the land underneath it. Thus, the person who owns the land underneath you has de facto rights to change the rules for any or no reason.
@checkoutmyyoutubepage
@checkoutmyyoutubepage Ай бұрын
@@cheesecakefan4880are you over 60 years old to remember Disney not being there?
@eddieBoxer
@eddieBoxer Ай бұрын
Condo valet trash pick up cost $200 dollars per month and going up.
@maryparis576
@maryparis576 Ай бұрын
Awe you got another home
@rogergeyer9851
@rogergeyer9851 21 күн бұрын
People living so close to the edge they can't pay a $100,000 fee have NO BUSINESS AT ALL retiring early -- or even THINKING about doing that.
@GW-gz8jh
@GW-gz8jh 5 күн бұрын
Then anyone not within in the extremely wealthy brackets would ever be able to retire.
@navajojohn9448
@navajojohn9448 Ай бұрын
How many condos have fallen down since the illegally poorly built with multiple visual defects condo in Miami?
@rosemary6907
@rosemary6907 Ай бұрын
NONE!!
@jannibal9273
@jannibal9273 28 күн бұрын
Wrong question. You should ask whether Vegas is running a betting line of when the next collapse will occur.
@Tugela60
@Tugela60 11 күн бұрын
The Surfside condo was not illegally built.
@martinalbert29
@martinalbert29 22 күн бұрын
Some of these expenses should be gifted/sponsored by the state .
@kirk1618
@kirk1618 18 күн бұрын
Why? Why should other property owners, taxpayers who elected NOT to own property, or anyone else NOT caught in this issue be responsible for the mis-management of maintenance and or funding of these buildings. I'm already paying for student loans I didn't take out, why should I pay to fix someone else's neglected property. No one is going to pay for my roof replacement, my HVAC replacement, etc. I guess I should expect the state to do my landscaping as well. I know the last is an exaggeration, but people need to be responsible for their decisions. These boards are in place to manage the funds of the collective. Apparently they weren't doing their job. Why is that my problem? I didn't CHOSE to live in a beach front condo. No taxpayer's money should be used for private property!
@katjones2781
@katjones2781 Ай бұрын
How is DeSantis going to fix this one?
@THEhorihito
@THEhorihito Ай бұрын
He's gonna put his big boy boots on, climb a stack of phone books and deliver a speech about it.
@patrisio3
@patrisio3 Ай бұрын
Who can fix it? A lot of those HOAs and building managers were neglecting proper maintenance for years....some for decades. Now it's caught up.
@jannibal9273
@jannibal9273 28 күн бұрын
He doens't care - he can't run for Governor again under Florida law.
@miche568
@miche568 Ай бұрын
The first guy is complaining from his other home in Colorado 😅
@cartwright420able
@cartwright420able 28 күн бұрын
He's got money.
@bruce_1986
@bruce_1986 24 күн бұрын
There goes my dream of buying a vacation beach front condo. Why would I want to gamble with a crazy assessment fee someday?
@rogergeyer9851
@rogergeyer9851 21 күн бұрын
I always thought condos were insane. Too much risk re uncontrollable fees, especially for what you get. If you want to rent - rent. If you want to buy - buy. At least if you actually OWN the real estate, you have SOME control.
@wjstophere
@wjstophere 21 күн бұрын
Florida is a nightmare but nothing a few more hurricanes won’t take care of 😮
@pauld315
@pauld315 29 күн бұрын
These HOA's have voted for years to not fully fund the reserve. Now, they are being forced to pay the piper. Unfortunately, many of the people who owned then have sold out over the years. They reaped the benefit and the current owners are left holding the bag.
@jannibal9273
@jannibal9273 28 күн бұрын
That's the risk you take.
@gdt5430
@gdt5430 Ай бұрын
You talk about a Gold Rush for engineering firms. What a bag over the head on condo owners. Run people run!!
@samoryTure
@samoryTure 26 күн бұрын
Whoever sold them these condos knew what was coming up.
@Tugela60
@Tugela60 11 күн бұрын
Probably not. These special assessments in the news are a result of changes in the law after the Surfside collapse. The deadline for compliance is looming, which is why they are all happening now.
@ltcolumbo9708
@ltcolumbo9708 21 күн бұрын
Good Lord.... go after the builders with bottomless pockets Leave the seniors alone
@countbenjamin1442
@countbenjamin1442 21 күн бұрын
I hate to say but condo owners have been allowed to not have money in thr bank. After a tragic event they now they have too. Personally it can suck, but it needs done
@newkirk7591
@newkirk7591 29 күн бұрын
in some cases, you arent allowed to pass on the assessment to the new owners if one decides to sell.
@jackwilson3121
@jackwilson3121 14 күн бұрын
The assessment is a lien & must be paid by the seller.
@Tugela60
@Tugela60 11 күн бұрын
If the special assessment has already been levied it is the responsibility of the seller to pay it, not the buyer.
@nel716
@nel716 28 күн бұрын
I keep telling everyone don’t move to Florida or Texas the two worst states to live in
@condew6103
@condew6103 Ай бұрын
The board is being unreasonable and insane. The building that has stood for 30 years is not going to fall down tomorrow unless they have been ignoring regular maintenance for decades. That condo that collapsed had obvious spalling that showed the concrete was failing and they ignored it. So do the structural assessment and repair what needs attention in order of seriousness. $100K right now is insane, but $5K/year over the next 20 years would probably be doable by most residents. Also, some regular maintenance issues like refurbishing the elevator the board should have been collecting reserves over the expected life of the equipment.
@half-breed
@half-breed Ай бұрын
Meatball Ron's law, making America great 😃
@wbay3848
@wbay3848 Ай бұрын
You’re missing the very obvious point, and I’ll let you ponder the very obvious reason why this is being implemented. (Hint: property developer Wolfpack waiting to scoop up for pocket change)
@half-breed
@half-breed Ай бұрын
@@wbay3848 exactly, meatball ron knew who would profit when he made that law 🤑
@jannibal9273
@jannibal9273 28 күн бұрын
Um - a building that stood for 30 plus years DID FALL DOWN AND KILLED 98 PEOPLE - in Florida - in the middle of the night. Some of those deceased people's bodies were not recovered out of the massive amount of rubble of collapsed Champlain Towers South.
@hutchinsonscott100
@hutchinsonscott100 7 күн бұрын
I wouldn't buy a house or a condo with HOA's.
@davidlundy5007
@davidlundy5007 29 күн бұрын
This is not a new story in respect to condos. It’s been happening ever since there has been condos.
@flowalsh5248
@flowalsh5248 Ай бұрын
people are saying they have to sell, the problem is because of all the assessments, everywhere in the state of Florida, what’s going to happen? Is people are not going to buy the condos, so the people who live in them are going to be stuck, staying in them, and having to pay for all that. What would happen if they can’t move but they refused to pay the hundred thousand dollars for the stuff?
@emc6511
@emc6511 Ай бұрын
My guess lawsuits plus lein on the condo. Owner signed the HOA docs / contract; grounds for lawsuits. No doubt will bankrupt a lot of owners; especially if they cannot sell for the amount they still owe on the mortgages. OR somehow corp america will step in and buy the buildings ... aka 2008 collapse of housing ... and convert to rental property. Just guessing ......
@half-breed
@half-breed Ай бұрын
Foreclosure
@JBoy340a
@JBoy340a Ай бұрын
@@half-breed yes, followed by eviction.
@half-breed
@half-breed Ай бұрын
All those magots that had to move during COVID are going to lose their AZZ with meatball Ron's leadership. Pretty damn funny actually 😁
@jannibal9273
@jannibal9273 28 күн бұрын
The HOA will sue the owner for the money, and the owner will have to try to sell (good luck with that!) or file for personal bankruptcy. Not a nice thing to deal with in what are supposed to be a retiree's golden years. But there isn't anything most of them will be able to do if they (1) don't want to pay the $100K for JUST AN ENGINEERING ASSESSMENT they will file for bankruptcy; (2) don't have to money to pay $100K or if they pay it, that would leave them with little to nothing to live on besides Social Security (which a certain political party wants to eliminate, but that's a different story) - what person in their right mind would pay the $100K in such a situation? It's a no win situation for a majority of those owners, that's my guess. Now - go ahead and vote for more Republicans who let this happen in the first place until a horrific tragedy struck - 98 people dead from a condo collapse in the middle of the night.
@BillionaireTaxEvader
@BillionaireTaxEvader Ай бұрын
Don't worry. Some institutional investor parasites will swoop in and gobble up the units.
@jannibal9273
@jannibal9273 28 күн бұрын
Yeah, there are always suckers and losers waiting to have their pockets picked by thieves and Republicans.
@davidfenton109
@davidfenton109 Ай бұрын
For those that recently purchased, don't have enough equity in their condos and don't care about their credit for 7 years might be better to just walk away and let the HOAs and insurance companies eat the expense! I went to a RE auction in SOFLA in 2007 and oceanfront/close to the ocean 1 bedroom condos in 40 year old buildings the starting bids as low as $20K with back then only $500/mo HOAs. Math never worked then since HOAs only going to go up especially in older taller structures. Now proly even if they give away for free won't make $ and sense.
@AlexM-vh2pu
@AlexM-vh2pu 26 күн бұрын
Solution, do not build anything over 4 stories by the ocean! 4 stories and under are more manageable and easier to maintain. Especially near saltwater,
@dens3096
@dens3096 Ай бұрын
They units would cost more but they wont worth more! They will worth whatever the market price will be and NOT what the owner wants to sell for!
@jokerfeed839
@jokerfeed839 Ай бұрын
How you going to sell when it’s underwater from the increased flooding in the future? Miami is losing inches of land every year. It’s a last run to launder money before everything is ruined
@jannibal9273
@jannibal9273 28 күн бұрын
People don't want to acknowledge that 90% plus of Miami, for instance, is at best 10 feet above CURRENT sea level. They're losing approximately 6 inches of land every year due to accelerating ocean rise. And that doesn't account for sink holes and land subsidence, aquifer water pollution from salt water infiltration and the quite evident increase in billion dollar plus damage causing storms a/k/a hurricanes, tornadoes, torrential downpours leading to massive flooding, etc. Even if Florida never gets hit with another hurricane or "tropical storm" again, at least two thirds of it will be under salt water. Miami is estimated to be under water by 2050, and other key Florida cities under water by 2060 (you can find studies online). Do the math. That retired teacher should keep her $100K, but it's probably too late.
@laneo
@laneo 29 күн бұрын
It's Wonderful!
@BlackandBlessed100
@BlackandBlessed100 Ай бұрын
WHY anyone buy condos in Florida in 2021 or after? I can see 1991 but never 2021 or after
@dorothyharris6596
@dorothyharris6596 Ай бұрын
Sold mine in 2017. It was becoming a rental haven. Most of the owners had left, and renters don't take care of the property like owners. Dodged a big bullet
@vikinghog
@vikinghog Ай бұрын
Ironic. Many people stuck their heads in the sand and bought condos based on the false assumption that they are cheaper than traditional homes because they do not have to save up money to pay for major repairs. Apparently they thought the relatively small monthly association fee was going to be enough to make major repairs, or they thought that the repairs would not be needed until after they passed away. When neither turned out to be true, then they blame the condo BOD rather than themselves. I wonder if many of them also bought timeshares thinking they were also too good of a deal to pass up or bought EVs thinking their batteries would last the rest of their need to drive.
@serafinacosta7118
@serafinacosta7118 Ай бұрын
Condos are a necessity where land becomes scarce , thus making the cost of acquiring a free standing home beyond reach for most home buyers. And for people who do not get to spend time around the house much. Hence, they fit a purpose. Not sure if this rationale applies to that pile of sand, I am not from there anyways . But that is pretty much how it suits. The problem is not the condo itself. It is what one is buying into. A lot a home buyers are not good at due diligence, spotting red flags, and lack forward thinking. . And real estate brokers in Florida, most , with few exceptions , are just glorified pushers of Florida Swampland preying on unsuspecting guilible buyers. And on condo association buildings , the least common denominator is that elderly couple or widow on limited income. Whenever the monthly meetings convene to discuss some repair or upgrade , she/he will be dragging the vote count , because every extra penny spent on dues , is a penny less on groceries. That pretty much sums it up.
@NJcruiser
@NJcruiser 16 күн бұрын
I wonder if Florida will get hit by some major hurricanes this year. That should add to their woes down there.
@smoochdawg4547
@smoochdawg4547 Ай бұрын
The cost is prohibitive but it makes a difference. What ?? 😅😅 Nonsense lady!
@vulcan2882
@vulcan2882 Ай бұрын
When I lived in my old apt in Ft.Lauderdale I was told it was going to go condo and I got first choice of buying it. I said it's not worth $275k ... not with all the work the building needed, it would have cost close to $400k. I moved out, I ened up buying a home out side of Florida for around $225k with a lot more sq footage.
@Tugela60
@Tugela60 11 күн бұрын
If you moved further into the swamp you probably could have found one for $225. You got ripped off.
@vulcan2882
@vulcan2882 11 күн бұрын
@@Tugela60 .. oh ya I got ripped off. I bought a 3 bedroom 2 bath 2100sqft home outside of Florida in ANOTHER state. Please tell me how I got ripped off ?
@Tugela60
@Tugela60 11 күн бұрын
@@vulcan2882 You paid $225k when you could have got some swampland for $225. You paid a thousand times more than you needed to.
@carolynwheaton8547
@carolynwheaton8547 Ай бұрын
Where will the nice lady be able to make $100,000 a year.Sell remove elephant 🐘.
@Mitzi73
@Mitzi73 Ай бұрын
She might have to take it out of her retirement.
@miroslavtomic8974
@miroslavtomic8974 Ай бұрын
She doesn't, she can take out a 30 year loan, pay it monthly.
@Mitzi73
@Mitzi73 Ай бұрын
@@miroslavtomic8974 30 year loan at 65 years old? Lol
@ronbennett7885
@ronbennett7885 Ай бұрын
Withdrawing retirement savings, mortgage loan, or barring that, selling and moving elsewhere cheaper. Sadly, for many, that will likely be a small apartment at best or moving in with their children. Very common scenario.
@carolynwheaton8547
@carolynwheaton8547 Ай бұрын
@@Mitzi73 Sad.5 years ago never thought of paying $100,000 for repairs on building.
@falkc11
@falkc11 25 күн бұрын
maybe desantos would like a little regulation in the insurance industry. Or are the rest of us supposed to pay for your beach vacay
@stephendangelo671
@stephendangelo671 25 күн бұрын
Where's DeSantis?
@ggh546-kz6re
@ggh546-kz6re 25 күн бұрын
Great "new" law (except), *the state* forgot to put: That *no single condo owner* would have to pay (individually or collectively); for the "condo board" (so-called) "independent assestement" fee/charges/etc!!! 🤔/🤦
@Tugela60
@Tugela60 11 күн бұрын
The condo owners ARE the board dummy.
@coreylucas5997
@coreylucas5997 21 күн бұрын
I HATE this state, ready to move, my rent is ridiculously high and it’s a dump, I will NEVER buy a home or Condo stupid high fees, plus crowded state inflation costs, stupid weather conditions hurricanes add more cost, more CONS than PROS
@easyb622
@easyb622 Ай бұрын
That is an older condo building so they are definitely going to find issues with that building. Also, the building owner and the HOA people are taking a little money off of the top put in their pockets. This is a damn if you do a damn if you don’t situation
@jannibal9273
@jannibal9273 28 күн бұрын
Who the hell in their right mind would buy a unit in a building that is supposed to be THEIRS, but the "building" is owned and controlled by somebody else? Well, you get what you deserve if you don't do your due diligence ahead of buying ANY kind of real estate property, investing your money in stocks, bonds, whatever, buying a motor vehicle, or purchasing health care insurance. It's too bad people aren't learning from the sorry lessons that others have learned. It's not as if these things haven't been publicized over and over again for years. And we knew about climate change and what was projected to happen back in the early 1970s. Nobody wanted to believe the experts, they fell for "smoking doesn't cause lung cancer" and "there is no such thing as air and water pollution" and "carbon dioxide build up in the atmosphere is nothing to worry about - it will just float away into outer space!"
@Skycouncil_Sentinel_777
@Skycouncil_Sentinel_777 Ай бұрын
Florida is such a train wreck...get out while you can.
@really2345
@really2345 27 күн бұрын
It's $100,000 per building. How stupid are these people? As for maintenance: roofs, windows, plumbing, electrical, etc have to be updated periodically and the condo owners should have been paying into a fund since the day building owner started leasing or selling units.
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