Conduit Bending: How To Use Setback Correctly.

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In this video I will educate you on how to find the setback to any size conduit and type bender.
This is a process that you can do when you first step up to a hand bender, electric bender, and/or hydraulic bender. You should chart your bender if you never used that particular bender before. Find the Gain exactly how the video explains it. After finding the gain you can figure out the Setback.
The setback is used to give you a reference point for the back of the 90 stub this way you can lay out a kick or any other bend you may want to do.
SETBACK = Take up - Gain
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@martinsnibbor7691 Жыл бұрын

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@dp6002 2 жыл бұрын

You’re the man! Thank you for the videos. I just subscribed to you. I just started my conduit class through the IBEW and you are definitely making me understand this better. Keep it up brother! Thank you and God Bless you for life 🙏

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

That's what I'm here for. Anyone that is seriously wanting to deeply understand how to bend this is the channel for you. You have a few channels that will briefly show you how to do a specific bend but some people need or want more than that, they need to understand it and that's where I come in. Thanks for watching and commenting. Please let your friends at school know about the channel I would greatly appreciate it. Follow me on: TikTok/holmzlaw Facebook/holmzlaw Instagram/holmzlaw Reddit/holmzlaw Reddit/r/conduitology Reddit/holmzlaw Tradeshound/holmzlaw Twitter/holmzlaw Quora/artofconduitbending Quora/holmzlaw

@dp6002 2 жыл бұрын

I’ll definitely will tell everyone! I looked up so many videos online and nobody can’t even touch you!

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

@@dp6002 Thank you.

@VenomUponTheBlade 2 жыл бұрын

First-year apprentice here. Didn't understand why or when you would use setback. This clarified it. My understanding is that when bending RMC it's crucial to understand this (as well as gain) because you have to cut the conduit to length, thread the ends, and lay out your marks before you start bending so there's no room for error. And when using a mechanical or electric bender it's impractical to take the conduit out to measure again for your kick mark so you gotta do it this way. Valuable information I appreciate the help man.

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

I couldn't agree more. What i used to do when I first started learning all about conduit bending was I would use these principles on emt as well even though i didn't have to. Just to get more practice with it before i actually had to try it on RMC. Thanks for watching and most of all for commenting.

@lauratanner8475 Жыл бұрын

This is the right way to do it 👍. I've cheated a bit here and there in cases where it's not too critical but if something has to be dead on the methods he's showing here should get you there if followed correctly. You've also got to account for threads with Ridgid pipe. Good info! Good presentation man 👍

@that1electrician 9 ай бұрын

@lauratanner8475 you have to account for how much your emt sticks into fittings as well, so same rule applies.

@ernestocortez2957 3 жыл бұрын

Droppin' gems 💎 My back thanks you 🙏🏽

@kennydunk 2 жыл бұрын

Very helpful brotha thank you

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped

@carlospina123 2 жыл бұрын

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@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you very much my brother Please follow me: TikTok/holmzlaw Instagram/holmzlaw Facebook/holmzlaw Facebook/artofconduitbending (group) Reddit/Holmzlaw Reddit/r/conduit ology Snapchat/holmzlaw Quora/Holmzlaw Quora/theartofconduitbending Tradehounds/holmzlaw LinkedIn/MelvinRubio

@bobbygolden2791 2 жыл бұрын

Great Video!

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you Bobby Golden I really appreciate you watching and commenting. Follow me on: TikTok/holmzlaw Facebook/holmzlaw Instagram/holmzlaw Reddit/holmzlaw Reddit/r/conduitology Reddit/holmzlaw Tradeshound/holmzlaw Twitter/holmzlaw Quora/artofconduitbending Quora/holmzlaw

@edichicaiza12 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing

@TheArtOfConduitBending Жыл бұрын

Your welcome

@sohailjanjua123 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks

@ThatOneGuy-jd3jn 3 жыл бұрын

thank you Holmz

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

Please follow me on: Facebook/holmzlaw Instagram/holmzlaw TikTok/holmzlaw Reddit/holmzlaw LinkedIn/melvinrubio Snapchat/holmzlaw Tradehounds/holmzlaw Discord- discord.gg/cKgE88wW Communities: Reddit/r/conduitology Facebook/artofconduitbending LinkedIn/artofconduitbending

@MrMr123 4 ай бұрын

Awesome videos

@TheArtOfConduitBending 26 күн бұрын

thank you

@stevenhall8860 3 жыл бұрын

Morning Brother

@kristianrubio9989 11 ай бұрын

I understand using setback for needing to put a kick or offset at a certain point from the back of your stub side but what if u need a kick or even a 90 from the back or your tail side

@oscarmendoza6358 Жыл бұрын

Can you make a video about everything about rmc and how to use a greenlee 555 bender

@TheArtOfConduitBending Жыл бұрын

I will try

@williamcampbell6666 Жыл бұрын

Kick are essentially offsets, where does the multiplier factor in. So if you wanted a 20” kick are we assuming that you are using a multiplier of 2 and bending at the 30degree? Just so I’m clear.

@IVAN2233 3 жыл бұрын

nice video. Do you have a video on how to find travel?

@TheArtOfConduitBending 3 жыл бұрын

When you say travel do you mean the offset travel or the travel it takes to make a specific bend

@IVAN2233 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheArtOfConduitBending the travel to make a specific bend.

@TheArtOfConduitBending 3 жыл бұрын

Now I know what you trying to do. Listen all the multipliers for every degree of bend is going to give you the travel for offsets. Example let's say you want a 5 inch offset to come off the floor and go over an object ok. And we using 30° bends. So to find the travel it's 30 ° multiplier is 2 So.... 5 inch offset x 2 = 10 inch travel between bends. Now if you want to the different types of multipliers then I can help you with that. Just join my discord community group and post questions in the conduitology 101 room i answer them every day. discord.gg/kdqZGjzC

@kristianrubio9989 11 ай бұрын

What if you want a 90 at a certain measurement from the back of your tail

@ThatOneGuy-jd3jn 3 жыл бұрын

Hey Holmz, do you happen to know how to find the shrinkage when doing a 90 with a kick?

@TheArtOfConduitBending 3 жыл бұрын

Ok so i'm not sure if you want to know the total length you need for a 90 with a kick. Or if you want to know the gain and the shrink of the 90 and kick together. Or if you just want the shrink of the kick. Either way you need to be more specific i haven't posted a video yet of finding the shrink of kicks yet. But i do have a couple of video's on gain and shrink and how they work. you can find it on my "multiple bends" playlist. Hope this helps.

@TheArtOfConduitBending 3 жыл бұрын

I'm about to do a video on this topic @brandonS

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

The video on calc. Shrink for kicks is posted. Thanks

@KinGIIRomE 3 жыл бұрын

Please get a better mic. Everything you're saying is valuable and we need all your information. Thanks for helping us!

@TheArtOfConduitBending 3 жыл бұрын

I deeply apologize. Ill look into getting a good mic.

@KinGIIRomE 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheArtOfConduitBending Don't apologize. You are great. Thanks for helping us.

@michaelhinchey 8 ай бұрын

Maybe you should buy him one. :)

@Enginerr82 2 жыл бұрын

You’re awesome and thank you for doing all these videos. But I don’t understand what you mean by the take up ? Are you talking about the deduct of the particular bender you use to bend the 90? I saw how you calculated the gain , but then you subtracted that from The take up ? That’s the part I don’t understand. You said the take up was 6” so you are referring to the deduction you used to bend the 90 on that hand bender ?

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

Yes that's correct the take-up is the correct name for it also known as deduction. You criticize on KZfaq if you don't do everything right. Lol. Anyway thanks for watching my videos I personally appreciate it. Thanks again. Also I have my own communities on Discord which is the best way to contact me also on LinkedIn and Facebook. Follow me on: LinkedIn/in/melvin-rubio Snapchat/holmzlaw Discord link will expire in a day discord.gg/jD9n9Nuy TikTok/holmzlaw Facebook/holmzlaw Instagram/holmzlaw Reddit/holmzlaw Reddit/r/conduitology Reddit/holmzlaw Tradeshound/holmzlaw Twitter/holmzlaw Quora/artofconduitbending Quora/holmzlaw

@Enginerr82 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheArtOfConduitBending Thanks bro , glad I found your channel

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

@@Enginerr82 glad I could help.

@sebek3 7 ай бұрын

Is that Mark for a kick for a kick from center mark or arrow?

@robbysanchez6514 Жыл бұрын

So what if you Wana bend a kick on the stub end to get into a body? Could you just bend the kick and add the set back to the mark for the 90? Kuz if you bend a kick into before a 90 isn't there shrink?

@TheArtOfConduitBending Жыл бұрын

No I don't believe you can do that and have it work accurately. As far as the shrink goes the setback has nothing to do with that. You still need to account for any shrinkage there will be. Setback is just used for layout purposes.

@andreaspanayiotou9657 2 жыл бұрын

The kick mark is bent at your center mark of the bender correct? Whether it’s 30 45 etc?

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

Yes and No. If you are doing the measured method yes use the center mark Star or notch is fine. But if you are doing the degree method where you are using the offset multipliers then you need to find the exact center to the degree you are using. I have video's on finding the center and i have video's on the degree method.

@xRaginRiotx Жыл бұрын

You can also use setback so you can measure a long 90 and bend on the “star” if you’re using an electric bender or bending rigid or IMC

@TheArtOfConduitBending Жыл бұрын

I don't get it. You'll need to explain yourself a little better.

@lauratanner8475 Жыл бұрын

@@TheArtOfConduitBending I think he may be referring to bending a ninety with the star where you wouldn't have to worry about the take up just the setback. I'm not sure tho 🤔

@henryhelland997 Жыл бұрын

To clarify for anyone reading this. You’re imitating the star notch on a hand bender. If you need the back of the ninety at 100” measure the 100” then add your setback and that’s your front of shoe

@rob0516 Жыл бұрын

@@henryhelland997 that is front of shoe and not the "arrow" mark?

@blackcreek80s9 2 жыл бұрын

Leftie 🤚🏽Gang 🤣😂🤣Dont smudge ya paper

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

Can't remember how many times I've actually smudged my paper. LMAO. Thanks for watching and most of all for commenting. Follow me on: TikTok/holmzlaw Facebook/holmzlaw Instagram/holmzlaw Reddit/holmzlaw Reddit/r/conduitology Reddit/holmzlaw Tradeshound/holmzlaw Twitter/holmzlaw Quora/artofconduitbending Quora/holmzlaw

@sohailjanjua123 2 жыл бұрын

Hi Holmz, how take up is 6 . Please explain me. Thanks

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

Take up is 6 for 3/4" pipe. That's just what it is.

@comingtofull-ageinchrist6736 2 жыл бұрын

so what happened to the gain for the length of the conduit when you bent the 90. I think the gain for Ideal benders is 3 7/16 and the setback is 2 9/16. I'm wondering because, if I make a 12" stub, and I deduct 6" for the take up and from the back of the 90 I need to go 3.5 feet to a coupling or box, how does the gain and the setback come into play? Because I gained 3 7/16 of an inch on the 90 but my setback is 2 and 9/16 of an inch. Because the set back is a reference point from the deduct mark for the back of the 90, so if I'm gaining 3 and 7/16ths of an inch and my setback is 2 and 9/16ths of an inch, how do I use those to help me figure the distance from the back of my 90 to my coupling or box? Great video!

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

Wow that was a lot to take in. Setback= gain - take up. Every bender can have a different gain because not every radius on the bender is equal. Now the way you use gain is ONLY to figure out total length of conduit needed for example to make a 12" stub and a leg of 50" you would add the stub and leg and subtract the gain and that's your total length needed. Setback as you said is just a reference point of the back of 90 and helps only when you want to lay out a 90 with say a kick or offset. You can lay it out all at once if you know where the back of 90 will be. Sorry I hope this helps. This is a topic that needs to be answered in person best.

@comingtofull-ageinchrist6736 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheArtOfConduitBending okay, so my overall length is my stub minus the deduct and the distance for my length from the back of the 90 minus the gain?

@comingtofull-ageinchrist6736 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheArtOfConduitBending ok so I have a 12" stub like you say, and I deduct for my bender minus 6" say I'm using 3/4". my leg or distance from the back of 90 to my coupling is 50" like you said. 6 inches for my deduct; do I measure 50" minus gain from my reference point?

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

@@comingtofull-ageinchrist6736 No. If you want to figure out total length. 1). Measure your stub from the end of conduit to the back of 90. That's your stub. 2). Measure your leg which is opposite of the stub. Same thing measure from the end of the leg to the back of your 90. 3). Add your stub and leg measurements and subtract the gain. I'm assuming you know how to find the gain. It's as simple as that. Gain is used to find the total length needed which is helpful when you want to say cut and bend box sets and then bend your 90s or if you are bending rigid conduit.

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

@@comingtofull-ageinchrist6736 the deduct has nothing to do with the calculation.

@josemontoya5760 3 жыл бұрын

Are you bending a 10” kick at 30degrees? Is that why you marked it at 20”?

@TheArtOfConduitBending 3 жыл бұрын

No its just am example kid. This about teaching you how to find and use "SETBACK"l.

@illestofdemall13 3 жыл бұрын

He is showing you how to accurate calculate and mark the kick before actually bending the first 90.

@TheArtOfConduitBending 3 жыл бұрын

@@illestofdemall13 i couldn't find your comments do ireplied here. For the 3 point saddle use this method better save you time. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrajaKpq3LfInKc.html And to learn how to put the 30 deg mark on your bender go to this video about 30mins into the video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ZrajaKpq3LfInKc.html

@juanchacon7271 2 жыл бұрын

I'm wondering the degrees ? 10, 22.5. 30 0 45? What about the shrink?

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

Not sure what you're asking me?

@friedahndangy2186 3 жыл бұрын

Off set did we need any measurements l'm need ' help for that's

@TheArtOfConduitBending 3 жыл бұрын

I don't understand what you are asking me. Sorry my brother.

@KandMAdventures804 3 жыл бұрын

Is the gain the same on all Klein benders?

@KLAWNINETY 3 жыл бұрын

It should be as long as it's the same size pipe. Larger pipe sizes have larger radiuses and different gain values.

@odorfree1591 3 жыл бұрын

@@KLAWNINETY Great video question was 90 degree bend made at the arrow, hook-end, or the star?

@TheArtOfConduitBending 3 жыл бұрын

Yes it should be. but the iron and aluminum shoes i believe are different.

@TheArtOfConduitBending 3 жыл бұрын

sorry i missed this comment my brother. it was done on the arrow. You can always contact me on any social media Facebook @Holmz Law facebook.com/groups/conduitology/Follow IG @Holmz Law Tiktok @Holmzlaw snap/homlzlaw tradehounds/holmzlaw linkedin/melvinrubio discord - ask me for the link

@sebastiancardona938 2 жыл бұрын

Does it matter the high of the kick ?

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

No it doesn't.

@sebastiancardona938 2 жыл бұрын

@@TheArtOfConduitBending thank you !

@TheArtOfConduitBending 2 жыл бұрын

@@sebastiancardona938 you are welcome my brother. Follow me on: TikTok/holmzlaw Facebook/holmzlaw Instagram/holmzlaw Reddit/holmzlaw Reddit/r/conduitology Reddit/holmzlaw Tradeshound/holmzlaw Twitter/holmzlaw Quora/artofconduitbending Quora/holmzlaw