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Confronting Dr Tour on God of the Gaps Arguments | Q&A with Dr. James Tour on Origin of Life

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Dr. James Tour

Dr. James Tour

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Dr. James Tour takes audience questions at the University of Waterloo on Origin of Life Research.
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00:00 Q&A with Dr. James Tour
00:44 Are other chemists willing to speak up about issues with origin of life research?
05:28 Are Some Scientific Problems Just Too Hard to Solve?
08:08 Doesn't the Size of the Universe and Time Help Facilitate Abiogenesis?
10:08 Aren't You Just Invoking a "God of the Gaps" Argument?

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@solideogloria5553
@solideogloria5553 Жыл бұрын
what a lion for Jesus, May the lord bless you dr. tour and more believers in the fields with increasing courage, the window of time for testifying for the truth might not be long, May God grant us boldness for his kingdom.
@JessicaSunlight
@JessicaSunlight Жыл бұрын
@@sciencerules2825 Why would he need to lie? Your denial of God doesn't effect anyone but you. And you cannot lie for Jesus as Jesus is presence of Truth. You should talk to the guy, he might teach you a few things about Truth - you look like you need to experience truth, since you lost in lies apparently. I can fetch the guy to talk to you if you like? I can ask him to visit you during your sleep if you like? You can talk to him and have a fun conversation? Ask and you shall receive. Jesus has no issue to talk to you.
@JessicaSunlight
@JessicaSunlight Жыл бұрын
@@sciencerules2825 So if you are speaking truth that means your words must have truth anchored behind them - but there is nothing, only emptiness. Hence *shrugs her shoulders* ok.. if you say so... Have fun with it I guess.
@berunto8186
@berunto8186 Жыл бұрын
@@JessicaSunlight Maybe look into Tour yourself? Read or watch what his critics have to say and look at their evidence. Tour is knowingly misrepresenting Science to push his religious agenda. There are multiple Articles and Video exposing his lies and his false conclusions. Oh, and I guess Jesus didn´t visit me when I asked because I didn´t have an open heart or some crap like that right? Always some excuse for the delusional.
@hwd71
@hwd71 Жыл бұрын
Even an atheist remarked that Dr Tour would be a member of the National Academy of Sciences had he not been so vocal about his Christian faith. I think he should be a Nobel Laureate as well. One of the greatest scientists of our day.
@itsamystery5279
@itsamystery5279 Жыл бұрын
It's a shame he decided to trade his scientific integrity for the chance to shill for his Fundy religious beliefs.
@marksandsmith6778
@marksandsmith6778 Жыл бұрын
I'm an Atheist and this hwd71 comment is garbage.
@martyfromnebraska1045
@martyfromnebraska1045 Жыл бұрын
Should’ve just stuck with being Jewish I guess.
@12centuries
@12centuries Жыл бұрын
@@martyfromnebraska1045 Tour got a _much_ better deal than any of that because to the choice he made.
@glenliesegang233
@glenliesegang233 Жыл бұрын
Atheists reject what is outside their paradigm. Fred Hoyle, Anthony Flew, and Francis Collins all recognized what did not fit their old conceptual framework, and saw deeper.
@chomnansaedan4788
@chomnansaedan4788 Жыл бұрын
It's not just science, the corruption is EVERYWHERE, even in the church or most of all in the church. Politics, entertainment, education, economics, mechanics, chemistry, absolutely everywhere.
@gregwarrener4848
@gregwarrener4848 Жыл бұрын
Thankyou Dr. Tour! your graphene production research helped me recieve an 'A' in my peace studies university class. I had to write a paper on peace building and your graphene production has amazing implications for bringing about peace to the world through resource distribution and innovation. From graphine batteries succeeding the lithium mines in the congo, to making vehicles out of lighter materials, your work will revolutionise the future. waste dumps all over the world including in the ocean may have financial incentive to be cleaned up for raw material in order to produce graphene. thankyou for everything you do Dr. Tour!
@WizzRacing
@WizzRacing Жыл бұрын
It the answer to radioactive decay.. As it can be used to clean up the spills of radioactive materials.. This will be a huge leap forward in recovering it. After it has been used up in Power plants...
@KenJackson_US
@KenJackson_US Жыл бұрын
Did Dr.Tour propose this, @@WizzRacing? It's not clear if you're saying you can alter decay rates or just that you can separate radioactive material. If the latter, has anyone proposed it?
@WizzRacing
@WizzRacing Жыл бұрын
@@KenJackson_US They are already doing it in labs,, Graphene, the thinnest and strongest substance known to science, could be used to help detoxify nuclear waste thanks to the latest discovery involving the wonder material. Experiments show that it can act as a “super sieve”, able to separate different atomic isotopes of hydrogen, and create the expensive “heavy water” needed by the nuclear industry, researchers said. If this is the case. You could reuse the radioactive material. While never having to mine the stuff again..Until you exhaust it.. When I read these papers. I thought about waste water that has been contaminated. Which they are already doing now in polluted lakes.. This could be an answer to how to deal with clean ups..And be worth a Fortune...
@holysmoke3201
@holysmoke3201 Жыл бұрын
Dr. James Tour is divinely inspired alright...funny how the USEFUL and best scientists were mostly devout christians!
@adamden9947
@adamden9947 Жыл бұрын
It always was and always will be a heart issue! Even if one should be raised from the dead they still will not believe!
@eldarpuntushashvili1087
@eldarpuntushashvili1087 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Tour, you are an awesome human being not because you are a professor of chemistry but because you are a true and honest defender of justice and mercy in this life. I really enjoy listening to your debates. I am sure a lot of other people respect you and love you too.
@gladishilton1943
@gladishilton1943 Жыл бұрын
Yes, I'm sure there are many people out there who are unaware of how disgraceful James Tour is.
@JessicaSunlight
@JessicaSunlight Жыл бұрын
I very much respect and love James Tour ♥
@KenJackson_US
@KenJackson_US Жыл бұрын
You disgrace yourself by lying about him, @@gladishilton1943.
@gladishilton1943
@gladishilton1943 Жыл бұрын
@@KenJackson_US If I lied about him, it would be a disgrace.....the problem is that it's James Tour who is dishonest.
@KenJackson_US
@KenJackson_US Жыл бұрын
Do you hate science, @@gladishilton1943?
@brandonmacey964
@brandonmacey964 Жыл бұрын
You are such a blessing. Without love all is just gongs and brass. We pray for Mr. Farina
@shipwright6122
@shipwright6122 Жыл бұрын
Hidden gems on KZfaq 🙏🏼✝️
@ujona
@ujona Жыл бұрын
God bless you Dr. Tour and continue to speak boldly!
@reasonforge9997
@reasonforge9997 Жыл бұрын
When my daughter was 4 I tested her knowledge about where milk came from by asking her. She told me it came from the refrigerator. I asked where it came from before the refrigerator and she said it came from the store. Still wanting to see if she knew it came from cows I asked her how the store came about having milk. She told me that God made it. Now most adults would know it comes from a cow. But then that is not a complete explanation--for how did it come about in the cow? One might say it was grass or grain or water and the cow's biology and the laws of physics and so on. A studious adult studying the issue all their life could add many more steps and even so they would not have a complete explanation. Even the steps they added would have gaps in the details. But in the long run, they could not reach any other ultimate conclusion that improved on God made it. Ultimate explanation has to stop somewhere, and the thing it stops on has to be God like--that is it has to exist out of the necessity of its own nature rather than be contingent on something else. And it has to be the ultimate explanation of all that is contingent.
@robmarshall956
@robmarshall956 Жыл бұрын
Yep 👍 “and God said” that’s where it comes from but people think that a childlike faith is not reasonable so they are more willing to extrapolate a macro evolution fairytale I don’t believe because they have any evidence but because this places them outside having to obey and trust Gods word, “everyone has gone there own way”, so thank God people are bringing light to darkness and fighting the good fight 🙏✝️
@AhirZamanSairi
@AhirZamanSairi Жыл бұрын
So in other words, you mean that anything that exists which is explained with multiple cause-and-effect steps, has to come from an existence that has no cause-and-effect, ie. an existence that exists completely on its own with no cause at all (the creator). This has to be, because otherwise the other existing things would have to come from an infinite past with no starting point (Aristotle's claim, which was believed by the west until the discovery of the big bang), but having no starting point (a source), would contradict existing afterwards. Because how can there be an effect (existence), if there was no cause (being brought into existence). Was this what you meant?
@sherrieflynn252
@sherrieflynn252 Жыл бұрын
​@@AhirZamanSairi Who created your creator? You're in the same boat Nothing + nothing created everything No design ,no intelligence, no intent The God of the Bible is indeed eternal without beginning or ending Some clues to His existence are found in reading the claims found in the Bible Science aligns with these claims Logos / Word information Multi dimensional,out side time and space
@AhirZamanSairi
@AhirZamanSairi Жыл бұрын
@@sherrieflynn252 you got me backwards I am a believer
@reasonforge9997
@reasonforge9997 Жыл бұрын
​@@AhirZamanSairi Maybe not exactly. I am afraid I was a bit of a moving target as my thinking on Cosmological arguments kind of matured since I had asked my daughter that question (she is now in college). My current view is to be agnostic on the question of whether the universe had a start....as far as I know the big bang theory was wrong or perhaps there is some kind of infinite chain of big bangs. However I do think that whether finite or infinite the universe did not cause itself. I am much closer to Rene Descartes view these days which required me to learn to think much more carefully and critically than I had before. But I think at the time my thinking was closer to what you described perhaps, although I am not 100% its the same since I don't remember my exact thoughts then nor do I know exactly what you mean by cause and effect (whether you mean efficient cause only within a sequence of time etc).
@Anonymous-tm7rj
@Anonymous-tm7rj Жыл бұрын
I myself come from a physics background before I transitioned into bioinformatics. the origin of life field does not even remotely have the rigor of other fields outside of biology such as chemistry, physics and mathematics. The standards for scientific proof in physics (particularly quantum theory) are far more rigorous than anything found in the biological sciences. There is no empirical evidence that every single life-form in existence has an ancestor with inorganic origins. We have not seen this evidence. If this evidence ever pops up I will have no issue with it but I have seen no empirical evidence of this happening only plausible reasons for it to occur. This is not how science is done in chemistry or physics where actual sensory data is required with significant figures to measure the error. We should simply be humble and admit that we do not know how life got here. That is a vital skill in research: admitting what we do not know.
@charlesfrancis1706
@charlesfrancis1706 Жыл бұрын
Once again, amazing video. Great Q&A! I feel so very blessed to be able to call you a brother in Christ, Dr. Tour. Firstly, you are using your God-gifted talent to the highest degree as one of the world's leading chemists and bringing incredible discoveries that have a tremendous positive impact on fighting tough medical battles etc. But, most importantly, when I witness you "LIGHT UP" with passion about Jesus Christ and what He means to you and your genuine desire to evangelize His Gospel, to anyone and everyone who may reach out to you says it all. May our Good Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, continue to richly bless you and your family, AND stay healthy! We need you here for a while! Much Love and respect.
@rac7773
@rac7773 Жыл бұрын
Love our Dr. Tour!
@samhawthorn5782
@samhawthorn5782 Жыл бұрын
And now Mr Tours needs to take that last step away from ego and accept that Man will never be Godlike in knowledge and understanding. That there's likely another level of reality beneath and beyond what we've discovered and then another beneath/beyond that and another . . .
@tristenherron1273
@tristenherron1273 Жыл бұрын
As someone who usually watches Dave's videos, I am glad I came here. I honestly don't understand where people get the idea that you want us to stop researching origin of life because it's impossible to understand. In Dave's video he says you say that, but I didn't see where he got that from. Here though, you actually address both points towards two different people. From what I'm understanding, you don't think it's impossible to understand, but will become possible with new people working on it. Which makes sense because that is how science works, right? Newton theorized and gravity and created an equation that works to a point. For awhile it was "impossible" for people to comprehend how gravitity works beyond the scope that Newton's equation calculates for until Einstein expanded upon. The same thing I'm sure happens everyday in science, and this seems to be your opinion from my understanding.
@itsamystery5279
@itsamystery5279 Жыл бұрын
He's called for an immediate halt to and complete defunding of all OOL research until "someone" (i.e. he had his creationist buddies at the DI) deem it's OK for the work to begin again. The man is an anti-science creationist clown.
@gladishilton1943
@gladishilton1943 Жыл бұрын
@@itsamystery5279 I too have heard him make the call to stop all research into Abiogenesis in one of his videos......and I remembers thinking at the time; "Geez, surely you'd have to know you're on the loosing team if you're urging the opposite camp to stop in it's tracks!" During business hours James Tour may practice good science but after hours he seems to really transform into a joke.
@lizadowning4389
@lizadowning4389 Жыл бұрын
@@gladishilton1943 From JT's own website: “Based upon my faith in the biblical text, I do believe (yes, faith and belief go beyond scientific evidence for this scientist) that God created the heavens and the earth and all that dwell therein, including a man named Adam and a woman named Eve." I don't mind/care for his spiritual position but stating "yes, faith and belief go beyond scientific evidence for this scientist" is a contradictio in terminis. One can't call himself a scientist while dismissing the scientific method when it doesn't suit him.
@gladishilton1943
@gladishilton1943 Жыл бұрын
@@lizadowning4389 Thanks for that useful tid-bit,Liza. James Tour is of course, free to think and believe whatever bat-shit crazy thing he wants but isn't it disgraceful that he acknowledges his beliefs are scientific nonsense and yet outside the weekday hours of 9-5 when he uses his scientific credentials legitimately, he abuses those same credentials in a campaign against science, to advance an agenda of convincing people of his bat-shit crazy fairytales?!?! He is intellectually one of the most abhorrent people on the planet......it would not surprise me if he is right leaning as well.
@johntrahey9915
@johntrahey9915 Жыл бұрын
God Bless Dr. Tour
@SunnyAquamarine2
@SunnyAquamarine2 Жыл бұрын
I can't tell you how much I love these short ones. I just know you are a true prophet.
@karlsteingall6832
@karlsteingall6832 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Tour Thank you for another educational and inspiring video. Please never stop spreading the Word!
@sarahs8371
@sarahs8371 Жыл бұрын
I was wondering about this for months! Thanks Dr. Tour
@kellyismyname777
@kellyismyname777 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to Canada Mr. Tour...Glad to see you here! God bless! Amen!🙌🏼🙏❤️🥰😎
@shashigill6587
@shashigill6587 Жыл бұрын
Dr Tour you’re an awesome messenger of God Almighty, Lord God is using you mightily. God bless you and keep you covered under His grace
@trafficjon400
@trafficjon400 Жыл бұрын
Reading your scriptures in context and learning to become honest was and still is very hard for me. i want an honest loving God but have not yet found one and reading the Bible in context had to stop in order to believe. Cherry-picking it to butter it up just made me dishonest about the truth in reality.
@brianmckerrow817
@brianmckerrow817 Жыл бұрын
Great initial answer to the question. helps me toremember approach ius more important than observation or perception
@rep3e4
@rep3e4 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, really admire Dr Tour
@DJDarkrobe
@DJDarkrobe Жыл бұрын
God Bless you Dr. Tour on speaking with reverence to our Lord in your reply, speaks to the depth of your Faith. I hope you're a KofC Member and have you ever considered becoming a Deacon?
@csmoviles
@csmoviles Жыл бұрын
Thank you for not backing down❤❤❤❤.
@g_light2334
@g_light2334 Жыл бұрын
Tour is beast. Thanks for doing what you do.
@2bittesla
@2bittesla Жыл бұрын
The universe in existence is the symphony orchestrated and conducted by the intelligent design of the creator, God.
@abetterworld96
@abetterworld96 9 ай бұрын
I've always been a hater of this man due to Professor Dave's videos on him but I've come to learn that he's such an incredible human he made me like him so much, he's literally the first religious person I've seen disproving our knowledge towards the origin of life without using "God" as an argument but rather science itself, that is truly impressive. Just to leave things clear, I grew up as a religious person in a Christian family and I served the church, preached and all and even studied as many religions as I could (at least more than 7) seeking to understand the division between all of them which eventually made me realize they all had a good point to some extent and also all of them had their problems as to which I came to a conclusion that one will only believe and defend what they're mostly exposed to or the environment they grow in. So this lead me into following my path and that is being agnostic coz that journey I took brought me so many questions as to whether or not there was really a higher being. I still respect everyone and admire people like James who know how to balance their faith with science.
@kensmith8152
@kensmith8152 Жыл бұрын
I find it very ironic that often scientists point out that the Roman Catholic Church persecuted Galileo for his scientific views, but now centuries later the tables have turned!
@gladishilton1943
@gladishilton1943 Жыл бұрын
Well, science offers explanations of reality whilst providing justifications and evidence from that reality as a means for anyone to verify what they're saying. Religions on the other hand, just fabricate nonsense whole cloth and prefer you don't question what they say. This is a problem for arriving at the truth. it was a problem in 1616, it's still a problem today.
@lizadowning4389
@lizadowning4389 Жыл бұрын
The Science Academy of the Vatican itself states that the OT is not science but an allegory, and not to be taken literally. Only religious fundamentalists like creationists and IDiots go down that rabbithole. Their so called "explanations" are anything but explanations. They lack substance, evidence and common sense reasoning.
@MLeoM
@MLeoM Жыл бұрын
3:46 dang! "... if they do this to me... what do you think they'd do to an assistant professor..."
@jesus_saves_from_hell_
@jesus_saves_from_hell_ Жыл бұрын
Peace in Christ! 🕎✝️🕊🔥
@jimpsonuyaguari9665
@jimpsonuyaguari9665 Жыл бұрын
God bless you.
@joeeliyah2090
@joeeliyah2090 Жыл бұрын
Love ya Brother James! Thank you for doing Yah's work!
@wrippley103
@wrippley103 Жыл бұрын
The term God of the gaps doesn't apply here because that term implies human beings have enough knowledge to even reach the starting line, a term like God of the extreme expanse would be more appropriate. Good job Dr. Tour.
@atyt11
@atyt11 Жыл бұрын
I always just respond back…. Time of the gaps then??? That is their god. Time is the fairy land dust that fixes everything. But their god crumbles to the ground as tour explains time is actually an enemy as the chemicals they need for life decompose in minutes days or weeks🤣👊🏼
@cagedstowgee4991
@cagedstowgee4991 Жыл бұрын
Where did dark matter come from? If you take the universe down to it’s simplest form, you either get a universe which has always existed or a God who has always existed. But we know through science that the universe had to have a beginning…soooo?
@normansabinsr6670
@normansabinsr6670 Жыл бұрын
Dr.Tuur. the Cop of Chemistry. He walks the LINE , "by the book." Dedicated;Determined;Disciplined;Decipled!
@kevinmosman7114
@kevinmosman7114 Жыл бұрын
I would say that other problems, such as the evolution of male and female reproductive anatomy in separate bodies, are also insurmountable. Dr. Tour is a gift.
@kevinmosman7114
@kevinmosman7114 Жыл бұрын
@@sciencerules2825 Good thing you showed up to enlighten everyone.
@kevinmosman7114
@kevinmosman7114 Жыл бұрын
@@sciencerules2825 I’d actually really appreciate a short in-principle explanation along evolutionary lines if you’ve got one. I don’t think there’s a creationist on the board who isn’t open to correction. Please do make sure you account for the penis, testes, scrotum, prostate gland, urethra, hormones, etc. for the man and the vagina, uterus, fallopian tubes, ovaries, pelvis, different hormones, etc. for the woman. I’m pretty sure they’ll all need in working order (at the same time) for reproduction to be successful.
@indigatorveritatis219
@indigatorveritatis219 Жыл бұрын
@@sciencerules2825 More empty talk, you people pretend you have answers and then when challenged you fold. 😅😅
@funkfamily4165
@funkfamily4165 Жыл бұрын
​@Chris Cuomo Sexuality is incredibly complex even just considering the process of passing on genes, but then add the cascade of hormones and chemicals involved in the emotional aspects of it as well....
@jon__doe
@jon__doe Жыл бұрын
@chriscuomo9334 well now you done scared him away... Getting harder every day to find Prof Dave trolls.
@eldarpuntushashvili1087
@eldarpuntushashvili1087 Жыл бұрын
I never said anything derogatory like that against Dr. James Tour. Because he is Christian, he is my favorite person including Dr. William Lane Craig. Please do not comment if you think I am saying disgraceful things about them. They are the world's best and greatest human beings if you ask me.
@KNemo1999
@KNemo1999 Жыл бұрын
"I have not evolved." 😂. You, me, and everyone else.
@solideogloria5553
@solideogloria5553 Жыл бұрын
"as sciense lovers, we need to have more faith in our OOL researchers, even if they are just making things up we can still hold on to our unwavering faith that God is not an option in science. scientism's life matters! "
@theminutemen1275
@theminutemen1275 Жыл бұрын
Well done Dr Tour!
@vsag3878
@vsag3878 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Lord for raising a hero in Science and Your Word. God bless you Dr. Tour and may God protect you mightily and all your loved ones and ministries, and that mighty wisdom from God will continue to pour in you in abundance and that you will continue to spearhead strongly in Science and the Word of God in truth and in Spirit. In Jesus Christ's name, amen! your Christian bro here from the Philippines.
@omnivore2220
@omnivore2220 Жыл бұрын
"It's the old guys who are doing this." If I may, I would say no, that it's the connected and established guys who are doing this, to protect their connections and their positions and titles, and so on, and that the young guys eventually become the connected, titled guys. And so the culture of compromise continues, as it has for millennia, as was the case with the Pharisees of the time of Christ, and it was nothing new then!
@SeaScienceFilmLabs
@SeaScienceFilmLabs Жыл бұрын
Keep up the great work, Dr. Tour! 👍
@alphonzoadams6918
@alphonzoadams6918 7 ай бұрын
Love the information!! Is there an article that is written that explains what it would take to create life? Such as the gaps in the coupling of the enzymes and the time limits associated with the coupling process to the point of failure? Just looking for a peer reviewed study on what is necessary for the coupling process. Something other than the Fine Tuning Universe look. Thanks for any and all Academia papers that would substantiate the probability or improbable coupling process
@ianlee5812
@ianlee5812 Жыл бұрын
Dr Tour, why do some coordination complexes contain 18 electrons, but others contain 16 electrons? What determines the lability of ligand substitution or if the substitution will occur at all?
@geraldjohnson8871
@geraldjohnson8871 Жыл бұрын
Dr Tour we know the battle is with the Adversary Satan but you are Not alone GOD IS WITH US.AMEN.
@onelastchamp
@onelastchamp Жыл бұрын
I heard you're about to debate Dave in a "almost a waste of time" format. I call it that because any debate without a cross examination is just exactly that. Cross examination is the real debate
@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982
@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 Жыл бұрын
I would argue (have argued since I have a vid on it) that "God of the Gaps" isn't always a bad argument. If it were, then even when Jesus turned water into fine wine on a surprise request without ever touching the jugs or the water then the claim of a miracle could be dismissed as a God of the Gaps argument. It would nullify any claim of a miracle no matter how strong the evidence. It gets more complicated than that but basically there are a few criteria and the better the circumstances of what you study fit the more reasonable a God of the gaps argument becomes. At least in a context where (like Christians today say) God isn't just God of the gaps. He made everything between the gaps too. He made the laws and acted in exception to those laws. It isn't like we are saying God stumbled on a universe complete with physical laws and decided to meddle in it once in a while.
@TheJojo777
@TheJojo777 Жыл бұрын
Yes, to many believers no gaps are needed. Rather, it is obvious that nature was designed.
@drbkjv
@drbkjv Жыл бұрын
Great point! 👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻👌🏻
@bagofholding
@bagofholding Жыл бұрын
Is this the God of the Grapes argument?
@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982
@earlygenesistherevealedcos1982 Жыл бұрын
@@bagofholding I see what you did there.
@julianneasasira-muwanguzi7603
@julianneasasira-muwanguzi7603 Жыл бұрын
Very clear explanation on the status quo of ooL. Thank you so much for this enlightenment. I am thinking if you take the God path to this issue from what you said about speaking things into being, then it is the breath of God that gave and still gives life. That is why our words as humans create because they come with the breath of life from God.
@potatoxgaming9466
@potatoxgaming9466 Жыл бұрын
What? Just because we understand it does not mean its not created by someone, In fact its actually the opposite since we know the intention of the body and intentions generally are created with consciousness.
@timothysparks6949
@timothysparks6949 Жыл бұрын
Unbelievable good!
@kensmith8152
@kensmith8152 Жыл бұрын
The problem is is that what if God spoke things into existence or that we indeed live in some kind of God created matrix, then both scientist and believer would be hard pressed to explain the origins of nature and the universe through our limited understanding.
@christianvichi5808
@christianvichi5808 Жыл бұрын
One of the best jew believer in Yahshuah, scientist and man who walk on earth right now. He is crushing all modern mainstream science eith ease and nobody seem yo want to seriously debate him. Why? Because they know they are lieing to the world. Even kids perceive the textbooks are fantasies........
@slamfire6005
@slamfire6005 Жыл бұрын
God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob is absolutely real. Repent and turn to Christ, He paid your price in full and loves you, there is no works you have to do… just feel sorry for your sin, realize you are a sinner…. Ask God for forgiveness in the name of Jesus Christ your Savior and turn from your sinful life… follow after Christ and walk in the light. You won’t stop sinning, but you will be covered in the blood of Christ and declared righteous by your faith. It is by Gods Grace you are saved through faith and not of works. Believe and repent, pick up your cross and follow Christ.
@eltonron1558
@eltonron1558 Жыл бұрын
According to Christ, you are to be forgiven, Christianity or not. Mt. 12:32-32 Once forgiven, eligibility for salvation is given, or forgiveness is meaningless.
@mchristr
@mchristr Жыл бұрын
The "God of the gaps" critique carries very little weight for at least two reasons. The first is that theists, believing themselves to be contingent and derived beings, can never lay claim to exhaustive knowledge. We are comfortable with paradox and the mysteries of life. The second reason is that the non-theist has the same problem of trying to explain the inexplicable. The difference is largely semantic; the non-theist has "faith" that someday our limited intellects will find an explanation. A person truly knowledgeable in philosophy understands the limits of rationality.
@meb280
@meb280 Жыл бұрын
Every person on this planet has a finite lifetime in which to decide what they believe (intelligence or chance). So for many of us, we have roughly 75 years (give or take) to decide, before we “leave”. We do not have hundreds of years for science to supposedly come up with the right answer. It is enough to know that the science establishment utterly rejects intelligent origins out of hand, does not even give it a ghost of a possibility. That should tell us what we need to know in making a well informed decision.
@sbgtrading
@sbgtrading Жыл бұрын
I would predict science (naturalistic research) cannot come up with explanations for all phenomena...the naturalistic origin of life being just one example.
@CJFCarlsson
@CJFCarlsson Жыл бұрын
And if Dr Tour believes there is a scientific solution to the very very difficult problem if humanity survives that long. The doctor is trying to stay away from mentioning God, but I wonder about what to do with that scientific solution and what to think about the survival of humanity.
@John_Gillman
@John_Gillman Жыл бұрын
Dr. James Tour should debate the rap god
@d_rock_yt
@d_rock_yt Жыл бұрын
Dr. Tour, I would love to have you on my channel as a non-YEC believer to share more of your thoughts. But I am a very small creator on YT.
@RodMartinJr
@RodMartinJr Жыл бұрын
*_I love science, but hate the politics and ego involved!_* I talk about some of these problems in several of my books, including: *_The Logical Christian_* (hardcover) *_The Bible's Hidden Wisdom: God's Reason for Noah's Flood_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_Proof of God_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_Dumb Genius: How intelligence is sometimes its own worst enemy_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook) *_Mission: Atlantis_* (hardcover, paperback, ebook)
@JessicaSunlight
@JessicaSunlight Жыл бұрын
What exactly are you talking regarding ego? Can you slip a few words to read? :)
@RodMartinJr
@RodMartinJr Жыл бұрын
@@JessicaSunlight *_ego_* _n._ The essence of the individual, physical self. Ego is that part of self which needs to be right and suffers when found to be wrong. Ego frequently will do anything to prevent being wrong or being discovered to be wrong by others. Example: Scientists afraid of losing their careers will not speak up against Woke culture, or the "climate change" (political version), or any number of other social issues which attempt to weaponize science. Example: Scientists so certain of their limited knowledge that they will reject an idea or hypothesis without doing the rigorous work required for them to publish. With such certainty, they make go away all manner of topics with their unsupported dismissal. The problem with "certainty" of any kind is that, once achieved, the individual stops looking. And because none of us is omniscient, with certainty we blind ourselves to all that potential evidence in the *_Darkness_* called the "Unknown" which could possibly prove us wrong. The opposite of physical, vulnerable ego, is non-physical, invulnerable spirit. And the antidote for ego is the utter humility which invokes spirit. I hope this short discussion helps. There is much more to learn on this fascinating topic.
@JessicaSunlight
@JessicaSunlight Жыл бұрын
@@RodMartinJr Thank you for sharing♥ I only would like to add that ego exist in the mind and its not physical. Its made up of mental energies. Mind has levels ( 3 exact ), you have ego elements at each level. You can have many egos, few of them are dominant all the time, you can say primal at given time. Some based on specific worldview, some on traumatic situation one might have experienced and others based on something else, including positive egos as well. Basically if you will focus on free yourself from negative ego elements you have created ( and they all based on fear or some form of aggression) you will feel at peace and life will be easy going in your mind despite encountering not so pleasant situations.
@RodMartinJr
@RodMartinJr Жыл бұрын
@@JessicaSunlight Thank you for your input. Are you basing your viewpoint about ego on some psychology text? My definition and discussion is more from a religious standpoint (example: Buddhism's explicit use of the term "ego"; example: Christianity's implicit discussion of the same concept as the "First" which shall become "Last," and the burden of the corrupt Pharisees which led Christ to declare that they did not need to be saved). You say that ego is non-physical, but that it is made up of mental energies. This is a contradiction. ALL energy is physical, including mental energy. And ego is indeed very physical, but not tangible. In other words, it is not made of mass. The other elements of our physical realm are space, time and energy. Because ego is physical, it is vulnerable. This is the viewpoint -- frequently attached to a body (mass) -- which carries the action-reaction (dichotomous) energy we know of as karma. I like your discussion of freeing self from the negative. But we also need to free ourselves from the "positive" ego, too. Spirit is non-dichotomous and discontinuity-based. All of the physical universe, including ego are dichotomous (two-sided) and continuity-based. While writing my book, *_Four Elements of God,_* based on my experiments with miracles (replication, observation, analysis), I found that the four elements we need to maximize in ourselves in order to get closer to God (and for performing miracles) are opposite the four elements of physical reality. * Unconditional Love vs. Space -- Space separates us while love brings us together. * Perfect Responsibility vs. Time -- Time allows things to persist (and trap us) while perfect responsibility sets us free (including as-ising [vanishing] mental and physical "objects") * Utter Humility vs. Energy -- Energy gives us power (including money as "energy") while humility invokes spirit, the source of all power. Physical energy is "effort" while spiritual action is effortless. * Fearless Confidence vs. Mass -- Mass has gravity to bring things together physically while confidence of spirit allows us to escape that which might trap us (the body, gravity well of a planet or black hole, or this entire physical universe). The ego of which I speak is not "mental" but the impression of spirit onto physical dichotomy. While spirit is true "self," ego is false (physical) "self." In Heaven there is no space, time, energy or mass. And the four (dichotomous, continuity-based) physical elements are a dark reflection of God's four (non-dichotomous, discontinuity-based) spiritual elements. Mapping out the universe in both of its halves (physical and spiritual) has been a fun, though arduous (at times), enterprise. And I know with a certainty that I'm not yet done. Even the above is subject to modification as more is revealed.
@jameslemaster1528
@jameslemaster1528 6 ай бұрын
For the young man who asked if we could look at Dr. Tour's problem "from a point of view of scale," meaning, "Yes these problems are massive of blind nature finding the just right molecular combinations, avoiding cross reactions, finding some sort of membrane to encase these things, etc. However, since the universe is so SO big, and since it has billions of years to happen, couldn't probability overcome these hurdles in the long run?" I suggest that this young man crunch the numbers. Are 14 billion years enough? Or have our materialist friends just thrown out vague, big numbers in order to avoid actually doing the math? I have a suspicion this "billions and billions" argument may be an avoidance technique. I am an evidence guy. Will the materialists please sharpen their pencils and show me and Dr. Tour the numbers? Perhaps 14 billion is enough. But I don't think I should accept that by taking a blind leap of faith when someone just throws out a vague claim like, "Well, the universe had billions and billions of years you know. Surely that's more than enough!" Really? How do we know its enough?
@jacob.tudragens
@jacob.tudragens Жыл бұрын
Paul's letter to the Romans. Chapter one, verse 32... Who, (knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such atrocities are worthy of death) not only do the same, but have pleasure in those that do them.
@fiveSolas879
@fiveSolas879 Жыл бұрын
God knows everything, there are no gaps. period.
@gladishilton1943
@gladishilton1943 Жыл бұрын
....so the fairytale goes.
@eltonron1558
@eltonron1558 Жыл бұрын
​@Gladis Hilton If there's witnesses, it can't be a fairy tale. How can God speaking to great crowds, be a fairy tale? You didn't know about it? You should be interested in what he said each time it happened. If you think the Bible is a fairy tale, you should consider at least one story is true. I go with the times God spoke to crowds, and they heard him. Pick yours.
@gladishilton1943
@gladishilton1943 Жыл бұрын
@@eltonron1558 That's dumb! How gullible are you?! By your reasoning, in the fairytale *Superman IV* the entire assembly of the United Nations are witnesses to Superman - as he addressed them over Nuclear weapons, so this must be proof that Superman is real and exists. Has it never occurred to you that fairytales can include fictitious witnesses to fictitious events? And if there is one thing we're certain of : Both *Superman IV* and the Bible were human fabrications. I hope your mistake of logic, make you realise just how intellectually cancerous religious thinking is.
@JessicaSunlight
@JessicaSunlight Жыл бұрын
@@gladishilton1943 what's the problem? Your body will die, you'll see for your self how fairy and how tale it is... And how "dead" you will be. Fun times I promises.
@gladishilton1943
@gladishilton1943 Жыл бұрын
@@JessicaSunlight Ha, Ha! I think you'll find that when you're dead, you'll not be able to see anything.
@geobla6600
@geobla6600 Жыл бұрын
Not sure how Tour doesn't want to be asociated with Intelligent Design and yet claims to believe in an Intelligent Designer who stated he created and designed life on earth.
@bringbackthefiretv495
@bringbackthefiretv495 Жыл бұрын
Please can you interview Dr Francis Collins who is a convert and preaches evolution is true based on DNA evidence but will believes in Jesus
@tgrogan6049
@tgrogan6049 Жыл бұрын
In our ignorance we find god! 😮
@joshuakarr-BibleMan
@joshuakarr-BibleMan Жыл бұрын
A month or so ago, I sat down with a Bible, and another translation in order to cross reference, and I began numbering names. It wasn't a scientific study by any means, but it was a careful one. I have a degree in language and literature. I know my rough draft mosy likely has errors. I found myself correcting a few as I formed it. What I did was, I numbered the names as they were listed. God, as in the Father, then the Holy Spirit, Eden, Euphrates, Adam, and so on. I named the first mention of each man, woman, river, mountain, demon, race, tribe, and ao on. I listed Abram and Abraham as separate numbers, largely because God is so careful to make the distinction. I did the same with other name changes, especially those made by God. I deliberated and ultimately decided Jealous was a name I would leave out, even though God clearly calls it His name. It was a hard decision, and I'm not sure I got it right. So, when I got to 666, the name of that number was Ba'al Peor. That is Ancient Hebrew for God of the Opening/Hole/Gap. Baal Peor, Belphegor, is a demon of defilement, and his worship requirements are unclean, to say the least. I know it's only nominally connected to the topic you came to discuss, but I can't help but share when I see it.
@TheJojo777
@TheJojo777 Жыл бұрын
Interesting undertaking. Only God is not a name. God has a name, a personal name rather than a title. It is YHWH, or Jehovah in english. Psalm 83:18.
@joshuakarr-BibleMan
@joshuakarr-BibleMan Жыл бұрын
@TheJojoher Thanks, but your critique is short on insight. The Bible uses God to call the Father, and to call the Godhead. This is because the Ancient Hebrews refused to say the name of God, and even in the text, they would often use a pronoun instead. The reverence has carried over into Christian culture, as it should, and so God counts as a name of God. Just the fact we capitalize it should tell you that. If not, then the fact using it inappropriately is blasphemy. If your child said, "Oh my G**!" would you punish your child, or would you say, "As long as you only said a title...?"
@joshuakarr-BibleMan
@joshuakarr-BibleMan Жыл бұрын
@TheJojoher I get a strong impression you mean to impose your favorite fact upon me, regardless of its relevance. _God_ is a name of God. Yes, His name is I Am, in Ancient Hebrew. We know that from when He introduced Himself to Moses. God has many names and titles. Quarreling over the importance of one over another is wasteful of time and energy.
@danzelhill
@danzelhill Жыл бұрын
​@@joshuakarr-BibleMan God didn't introduce Himself to Moses, Moses knew the name of God YHVH already. What He did was present a new facet of Him to Moses, because Moses doubted that the Israelites in Egypt (knowing all the many gods there) would believe him that YHVH could free them. And no, God is not His name, God means “a mighty one with authority”, that's why there are other beings called “elohyim” in the Bible.
@joshuakarr-BibleMan
@joshuakarr-BibleMan Жыл бұрын
@Dan Hill 「MTB」 Now you, too? Look, God is clearly one of God's names. Would you chastise your child for saying, "Oh my G**!" or would you say, "Since you have only blasphemed a title, I suppose you have not taken the Lord's name in vain?" Yes, God introduced Himself to Moses on the mountain. Moses believed, yes, but has never met God. There is a difference.
@WizzRacing
@WizzRacing Жыл бұрын
There is no way you can look at the Cell Nucleus in action. And not understand design was behind it. As it makes humans look like we just discovered fire.. And the next person that invokes Time. As a physical force. I will laugh so hard. As Time does not cause an Action...
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
I can look at it as say all I see are natural things happening and we don’t have all the answers.
@WizzRacing
@WizzRacing Жыл бұрын
@@therick363 Then you have no understanding of what engineering needs to take place. As the ell Nucleus is a marvelous arena of Engineering.. And it's ability to last 70-100 years old Keeping the body going. Is beyond anything humans build. As the stuff we make. Is normally fallen apart inside 20 years. All while taking some serious abuse we put on it.. And even Humans have taken what they seen. And applied it to new ways of building systems.. Why I doubt your post. I think you made it up. To get around the question. That or repeated someone else. Good Luck...
@maync1
@maync1 Жыл бұрын
God pervades everything and to try and keep him out of science, even the discussion of it, is to my mind negative, though utterly human. I think, we do this to quieten objectors and protect ourselves. How could we manage otherwise? It seems fair but perhaps we underrate what it takes to be God's disciple. As D. Bonhoeffer put it quite starkly: "When Christ calls a man, he bids him come and die."
@QuranicIslam
@QuranicIslam Жыл бұрын
@6:55 ... mmm ... hope that's not some veiled bigoted poke at the Muslim world? I know James had deep faith in Jesus (as) and I love him for it, but I am very certain he is culturally clueless about the rest of the world ... or at worst he's absorbed too much propaganda. Anyway ... what I wanted to really know is where can I watch the lecture he gave here? The one before this Q and A? And good luck in the Debate against Dave ... really looking forward to that
@willschmidt7191
@willschmidt7191 Жыл бұрын
Is it possible the God spoke everything into existence 6000 or so years ago and set the the universe off into the expansion we see now?
@eltonron1558
@eltonron1558 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Not only that, he spoke to crowds, who heard him, at least twice.
@SJK-ROW-K
@SJK-ROW-K Жыл бұрын
Question: why is it you've been visited and no one else?
@leapedrosa4475
@leapedrosa4475 Жыл бұрын
Dr. Tour: 1) Based on the TEST/COMMAND in 1JOHN 4:1-3 (KJV), please identify the following: A) The SPIRIT THAT IS OF GOD/PRO-CHRIST (1John 4:2). B) The spirit of antichrists/false prophets (1John 4:3). 2) 1 JOHN 4:1-3 (KJV) is a COMMAND which MUST be abided on so as not to be deceived by antichrists/false prophets (1John 4:3) and not to be the deceivers/deceived (2John 1:5-7) who are MANY in the world (1John 4:1).
@dopeydonaldtrump3744
@dopeydonaldtrump3744 Жыл бұрын
I love watching this guy make a complete a*se of himself 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@franciscocepeda8416
@franciscocepeda8416 Жыл бұрын
Even Darwin knew his theory had problems and could be proven wrong
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
He knew he didn’t have all the information. The theory still stand’s because science keeps advancing.
@danzelhill
@danzelhill Жыл бұрын
​@@therick363 Actually the more science advances, the more it shows serious holes and problems in evolution theory.
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
@@danzelhill really now. This is news. The serious holes and problems would be?
@danzelhill
@danzelhill Жыл бұрын
@@therick363 Being news to you it must show that you're new to this field. No problem, we all were, keep digging, be honest, you will find the answers.
@itsamystery5279
@itsamystery5279 Жыл бұрын
@@danzelhill That was an exceptionally lame dodge when called on your creationist BS.
@Tanengtiong
@Tanengtiong 9 ай бұрын
All of us need faith to let our life working properly. Atheism's beliefs on the origin of life that come with countless missing links, ostensibly, are not somethings that I can afford to gamble my soul big.
@Tanengtiong
@Tanengtiong 9 ай бұрын
There are constant salvations of our Heavenly Father in this universe, and He is omnipresent and omniscient, thus I will not take a dualistic stance on salvational Theology and science, just to succumb to the brainwashed peer pressure from the atheistic communities or secular cultures.
@theresa42213
@theresa42213 Жыл бұрын
l believe God DID speak _life,_ and the universe, into existence, and crafted Adam n Eve from the dust of the earth. ....because He said He did. lts hard for me to believe we can figure out _how_ life started in the natural sense. lts miraculously done. ln my ''pea brain'' Jesus is the origin, as He said _''l have the keys to death, and hades''_ ~ Rev l :18 ...lt is the same with life. As you have said before 'We dont even know what life really is. We can have all the components of a cell but we cant make it go. What is it (life)' l think its something that only God can give. Thank you James! Love your work. :D
@John777Revelation
@John777Revelation Жыл бұрын
Modern Quantum Physics has shown that reality is based on probability: ​ A statistical impossibility is defined as “a probability that is so low as to not be worthy of mentioning. Sometimes it is quoted as 1/10^50 although the cutoff is inherently arbitrary. Although not truly impossible the probability is low enough so as to not bear mention in a Rational, Reasonable argument." The probability of finding one particular atom out of all of the atoms in the universe has been estimated to be 1/10^80. The probability of just one (1) functional 150 amino acid protein chain forming by chance is 1/10^164. It has been calculated that the probability of DNA forming by chance is 1/10^119,000. The probability of random chance protein-protein linkages in a cell is 1/10^79,000,000,000. Based on just these three cellular components, it would be far more Rational and Reasonable to conclude that the cell was not formed by un-directed random natural processes. Note: Abiogenesis Hypothesis posits that un-directed random natural processes, i.e. random chance formation, of molecules led to living organisms. Natural selection has no effect on individual atoms and molecules on the micro scale in a prebiotic environment. (*For reference, peptides/proteins can vary in size from 3 amino acid chains to 34,000 amino acid chains. Some scientists consider 300-400 amino acid protein chains to be the average size. There are 42,000,000 protein molecules in just one (1) simple cell, each protein requiring precise assembly. There are approx. 30,000,000,000,000 cells in the human body.) Of all the physical laws and constants, just the Cosmological Constant alone is tuned to a level of 1/10^120; not to mention the fine-tuning of the Mass-Energy distribution of early universe which is 1/10^10^123. Therefore, in the fine-tuning argument, it would be more Rational and Reasonable to conclude that the multi-verse is not the correct answer. On the other hand, it has been scientifically proven numerous times that Consciousness does indeed collapse the wave function to cause information waves of probability/potentiality to become particle/matter with 1/1 probability. A rational and reasonable person could therefore conclude that the answer is consciousness. A "Miracle" is considered to be an event with a probability of occurrence of 1/10^6. Abiogenesis, RNA World Hypothesis, and Multiverse would all far, far, far exceed any "Miracle". Yet, these extremely irrational and unreasonable hypotheses are what some of the world’s top scientists ‘must’ believe in because of a prior commitment to a strictly arbitrary, subjective, biased, narrow, limiting, materialistic ideology / worldview. Every idea, number, concept, thought, theory, mathematical equation, abstraction, qualia, etc. existing within and expressed by anyone is "Immaterial" or "Non-material". The very idea or concept of "Materialism" is an immaterial entity and by it's own definition does not exist. Modern science seems to be stuck in archaic, subjective, biased, incomplete ideologies that have inadequately attempted to define the "nature of reality" or the "reality of nature" for millennia. A Paradigm Shift in ‘Science’ is needed for humanity to advance. A major part of this Science Paradigm Shift would be the formal acknowledgment by the scientific community of the existence of "Immaterial" or "Non-material" entities as verified and confirmed by observation of the universe and discoveries in Quantum Physics.)
@gladishilton1943
@gladishilton1943 Жыл бұрын
What a dumb argument you make. Firstly, Probability describes expectations, they do not govern or dictate when or how things happen. Secondly, events with probability of far less than 1/10^119,000 are happening around us all the time.
@ArroEL922
@ArroEL922 Жыл бұрын
@@gladishilton1943 Actually, John Revelation made a very sound argument. Maybe, he should have added that hundreds of such improbabilities need to occur in sequence for that first living cell to appear. "Secondly, events with probability of far less than 1/10^119,000 are happening around us all the time." Name one.
@gladishilton1943
@gladishilton1943 Жыл бұрын
@@ArroEL922 Name one? Sure, I can name many. If you grant me that there are say, (a mere) 10 million (10^7) people in the world with access to the internet and able to comment or view KZfaq videos, then find any one with 17,000 (or more) views or comments and you will be witnessing something that had a probability of occurring (the way it did) of =< 1/10^119,000. There are load of such videos.
@ArroEL922
@ArroEL922 Жыл бұрын
@@gladishilton1943 And just how did you get that final number (=< 1/10^119,000) based on the scenario you presented? You just can't get that. But let's assume that it is so. Now you have ONE protein (or even a few). How do you move from that to a complete functioning living cell? The experts in the field of origin-of-life research are totally stymied by this problem. And now, YOU say it is possible. Great, congratulations.
@gladishilton1943
@gladishilton1943 Жыл бұрын
@@ArroEL922 Clearly you don't know how to work out probabilities. Let me educate you: If there are 10^7 people who can comment on a video, and the first comment was by Person A, and the second comment was by Person B and so on....then the probability that the first comment was posted by Person A is 1/10^7. Furthermore, the probability that the first comment was posted by Person A AND the second comment by Person B is 1/10^7 x 1/10^7 = 1/10^14. If you repeat the calculation over the entire 17,000+ comment the probability of this string of comments is calculated by : 1/ 10^7 x 1/10^7...........= 1/10^(7+7+7+....) = 1/10^(7*17,000) = 1/10^119,000 QED. As far as explaining how Life began, this is being researched - it's the Field of Study called Abiogenesis...but I think you knew that. As soon as they work it out definitively I'm sure it will make the news. Just have patience. Though, so far you do realise they established these significant things: i. All the amino acids essential for life have been show to occur naturally in numerous environments. ii. Natural mechanisms that can spontaneously create all the nucleotides found in RNA, have been discovered iii. Naturally occurring single and double wall spheres call microspheres have been discovered which exhibit both rudimentary forms of metabolism as well as the ability to replicate through binary fission......very much like we observe in modern cells. Contrast that to what James Tour (or any other Apologist) has been able to establish : *Can you offer a single shred of verifable evidence that suggests any god exists* ????
@xviewmytubex
@xviewmytubex Жыл бұрын
Some fundamentals for context/understanding. As Christian's have been telling the world for over 6k years, and creationist's for the last 125 years; everything starts with faith! To explain: At 11 years old, a child is called by his parents to the living room because his parents have something important to share/teach the child. The parents proceed to reveal to their child they are atheists. In a nutshell their definition of atheism is: they are not afforded the faith to believe in God, gods (false), spiritual/transcendant beings, etc., so they require evidence for said being. There is no evidence for God (they continue) and we don't need evidence for any God as we know/understand how to live life and they can live it however they scratch their itch to do so! Their child promises to understand/learn and practice more atheism as after all, he exclaims, his parents would not deceive him, steer him wrong, etc. This is the first ever FAITH/BELIEF system implanted in this child. At 13 years old the child begins living a particular life choice consistently -- curse/cuss words! His understanding for this comes the a priori (now prior) faith/belief that God doesn't exist therefore cannot teach him how he ought to speak vs ought not. Fast forward to 16 years old, during lunch, this now young man chats with friends and one asks "Why do you curse/cuss so much? Didn't your parents teach you that it's wrong and that God gave us moral speech paterns"? Our atheist friend replies with something like "Actually, you were probably forced to accept by faith your God exists. I don't have this luxury and don't want it as I require evidence for this God, whow doesn't exist, so I decide how I speak, etc." =). Notice, this original faith doesn't stay at it's inception point. It travels with this atheist and will his entire life until he consciously rejects/denounces it, if ever he does. Not only this, but it will be used to INTERPRET anything this individual wants, and interpret within the original faith/belief system of 'there is no God, no evidence for God, etc'. During high school years, our atheist friend learns about evolution and becomes highly interested in the sciences. Initially, of course, he accepts evolution on faith (that it's allegedly fact) as he's just learned about it, and this decision has a catalyst, an engine/mechanism driving it -- the original/a priori faith/belief he was indoctrinated with at the age of 11. He continues to learn the sciences and excels, and becomes a scientist, a biologist, let's say. He's just arrived at his working institution; his lab! He's getting a tour of the place by other scientists (colleagues), and he's excited beyond words! And, can you guess what is right there with him, in his lab? Yup! That original faith/belief system, used since the age of 11 to INTERPRET anything and everything according to this faith/belief! =). The aformentioned were the words (not identical, of course) of Professor Richard Lewontin (1929-2021), a geneticist, and self-procalimed Marxist, who said the following: ‘Our willingness to accept scientific claims that are against common sense is the key to an understanding of the real struggle between science and the supernatural. We take the side of science in spite of the patent absurdity of some of its constructs, in spite of its failure to fulfill many of its extravagant promises of health and life, in spite of the tolerance of the scientific community for unsubstantiated just-so stories, because we have a prior commitment, a commitment to materialism. It is not that the methods and institutions of science somehow compel us to accept a material explanation of the phenomenal world, but, on the contrary, that we are forced by our a priori adherence to material causes to create an apparatus of investigation and a set of concepts that produce material explanations, no matter how counter-intuitive, no matter how mystifying to the uninitiated. Moreover, that materialism is absolute, for we cannot allow a Divine Foot in the door.' The full article is still available unless the tech giants nuke it off the internet as they read these words. =). The original faith/belief system is driving the evolutionist camp's faith in materialism (naturalism/scientism). This is used by every scientist to INTERPRET evolution; it's not science, it's INTERPRETED (faith) science ! As for creation science, it's not debunked/refuted, it's perpetually DISALLOWED altogether to obtain the same foothold in the sciences, academia, school curriculum and media as evolution! Everything starts with faith, folks! Jesus revealed to us from the beginning ALL the false faiths (lies). Jesus loves us so much he revealed the global deceiver, Satan, and his tactics of deception. I understand the 'sense' of intellectual fullfilment atheists say/think they find in supporting an 'observed scientific facts' approach over a faith-based approach (in the living God). But this fullfilment is still a falsehood and there isn't even any common sense-based support for evolution. It's INTERPRETED facts, not obeserved! =).
@FrankPCarpi
@FrankPCarpi Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't even use the word evolution in the sense of "micro evolution" because all we ever witness is genetic expression of gene codes that weren't active in a normal environment. The genes are already in the genomes of the organisms involved in morphological variations. Evolution would suggest that new genetic coding somehow merged into the organism's genome, which is never observed. A more preferable terminology would be Constant Environmental Tracking (a new biological model adapted by Dr. Randy Guliuzza of the Institute for Creation Research.)
@trumpbellend6717
@trumpbellend6717 Жыл бұрын
_"evolution would suggest that new genetic coding somehow merged into the organisms genome which is never observed"_ 😂😂😂😂 Do you know what "Endogenous Retroviruses" are dear ?? Do you understand what the terms "Endogenous" and "Germline Inheritance" mean ?? 🤔 This is only ONE from a multitude of observable methods new genetic coding is attained. Get back to me when you actually know something about the subject dear 😜
@v_osornio
@v_osornio Жыл бұрын
Tour 💪💪 appreciate all the work you do brother.
@SunnyAquamarine2
@SunnyAquamarine2 Жыл бұрын
When was this talk held?
@meb280
@meb280 Жыл бұрын
It is so affirming to hear you speak about the real problem, which is that of origins. I have held the same view for some time now and it has amazed me that so few actually point this out! It seems so obvious. From a purely naturalistic viewpoint, before life arose, it had to do so using brute chemistry and physics. But that chemistry is very complex. And as you point out, molecules don’t hang around intact and viable for decades, let alone millions or billions of years! The chemistry problem is huge and the odds are so stacked against a naturalistic explanation. The Evolutionists want to go directly to Evolution, bypassing what had to occur BEFORE natural selection could take place. It would be nice to think they have simply overlooked the topic of origins, but it is apparent to me that they really don’t want to talk about it. Thank you for speaking up about this, Dr. Tour!
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
That’s like saying we can’t use gravity or the strong nuclear force because we don’t know why the Big Bang happened. We can use them and we can use evolution even when we don’t know how life started
@meb280
@meb280 Жыл бұрын
@@therick363 You can use them all you want, but if you are arguing against intelligence, then you need to explain and defend your idea of naturalistic origins of life coming from non-life.
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
@@meb280 you aren’t saying that if we don’t have an answer/explanation then it automatically makes a god responsible right?
@meb280
@meb280 Жыл бұрын
@@therick363 No. It's a question of which is more plausible. You have to decide that for yourself.
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
@@meb280 well at least you said that. That’s an improvement compared to many believers.
@edwardwicks304
@edwardwicks304 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant man!!!! Takes a lot more faith to believe in evolution than the Biblical narrative of origins. Dr. James Tour is the real deal!!!
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
Evolution is a scientific theory, like gravity. Would you also say it takes faith to believe in gravity? It doesn’t take faith to learn and accept and understand the scientific evidence that evolution happens. Maybe you should learn some actual science first
@JessicaSunlight
@JessicaSunlight Жыл бұрын
@@therick363 Woah hold on piper, its not. Gravity is a theory that is applicable and testable thing, its a theory because its not YET to this day understood completely what gravity is - hence theory. Evolution is not a theory because nothing it predicts is testable. The only thing that was tasted is micro evolution. At best its a hypothesis and nothing else. It takes faith because "One day it will be proven" one day is not yet today... But I agree, you can go on faith with God too, without ever experiencing Reality of God, for many people its a hypothesis about life. So you are partially correct and partially dreaming of things that don't exist. I'm not saying you don't have a right to believe in a fantasy tho. God gave you free will to think as you like.
@Mohamed-ee6pg
@Mohamed-ee6pg Жыл бұрын
"And [beware the Day] when Allāh will say, "O Jesus, Son of Mary, did you say to the people, 'Take me and my mother as deities besides Allāh?'" He will say, "Exalted are You! It was not for me to say that to which I have no right. If I had said it, You would have known it. You know what is within myself, and I do not know what is within Yourself. Indeed, it is You who is Knower of the unseen. I said not to them except what You commanded me - to worship Allāh, my Lord and your Lord. And I was a witness over them as long as I was among them; but when You took me up, You were the Observer over them, and You are, over all things, Witness. If You should punish them - indeed they are Your servants; but if You forgive them - indeed it is You who is the Exalted in Might, the Wise. Allāh will say, "This is the Day when the truthful will benefit from their truthfulness." For them are gardens [in Paradise] beneath which rivers flow, wherein they will abide forever, Allāh being pleased with them, and they with Him. That is the great attainment. To Allāh belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is within them. And He is over all things competent." English translation of the Quran, chapter 5, verse 116-120.
@robertmiller5258
@robertmiller5258 Жыл бұрын
The real problem is not that posed by the ‘God of the gaps’ argument but by the physics of the gaps - consciousness, intentionality, natural normativity, personal identity, etc. which stump physics.
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
How are those physics of the gaps? There’s a difference between saying we don’t know something but it was god vs we don’t know something but science
@robertmiller5258
@robertmiller5258 Жыл бұрын
These problems are just not tractable to science which suggests that thee are other principles and causes at work.
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
@@robertmiller5258 such as?
@robertmiller5258
@robertmiller5258 Жыл бұрын
@@therick363 Final causes for one, teleology…
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
@@robertmiller5258 do you know how to have a conversation? What about “final causes”? Who says there is or has to be one? What about teleology?
@davidsicilia5316
@davidsicilia5316 Жыл бұрын
When was this recorded?
@christopherskipp1525
@christopherskipp1525 Жыл бұрын
Where is the university of waterloo?
@omarelabdellaoui7498
@omarelabdellaoui7498 Жыл бұрын
(22:73) Those who call upon aught other than Allah shall never be able to create even a fly, even if all of them were to come together to do that. And if the fly were to snatch away anything from them, they would not be able to recover that from it. Powerless is the supplicant; and powerless is he to whom he supplicates.123
@DDFergy1
@DDFergy1 Жыл бұрын
The argument of God of the Gaps is a straw man argument that does not address the philosophy of Science, why Science is used by men to understand Nature, or to address even what is Nature. The one asking that question needs to understand basic assumptions of reality.
@NayBuster
@NayBuster Жыл бұрын
X-tra Fallacy: It's the most popular atheist argument where you attempt to disprove the truth of something by just asserting that it's the said something of the gaps. An argument where you parody the opposition's conclusion by adding or multiplying and slabbing on some extra attributes or elements which you haven't proven necessary. The irony lays behind the reason for the argument which is that "it can be used to prove anything" when it can be used to disprove the truth of anything in any discussion. TLDR: "God of the gaps" is r3t@rd3d.
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
The truth of something….in this case that would be?
@NayBuster
@NayBuster Жыл бұрын
@@therick363 Example: A: So the roman centurion must have killed the spies on the ground from the watchtower. B: "You just proved McMillan TAC-50 (sniper) existed then."
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
@@NayBuster I’m sorry but that’s a terrible example.
@NayBuster
@NayBuster Жыл бұрын
@@therick363 That's exactly how atheists talk though.
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
@@NayBuster no it isn’t. I’m an atheist and I would never make an argument like that. Or shall I talk like theists? Want to try again?
@CJFCarlsson
@CJFCarlsson Жыл бұрын
How come so many questions end up as lectures?
@itsamystery5279
@itsamystery5279 Жыл бұрын
Creationists like Tour never miss a chance to proselytize for their religious creation beliefs.
@JessicaSunlight
@JessicaSunlight Жыл бұрын
@@itsamystery5279 Neither materialists who likewise waste no time promoting their belief system. ☺ Oooo the irony of pointing the finger while doing the same.
@JessicaSunlight
@JessicaSunlight Жыл бұрын
@@sciencerules2825 Keep waiting and one day pigs will fly... Mean While life moves on without you.
@CJFCarlsson
@CJFCarlsson Жыл бұрын
@@sciencerules2825 gender studies
@CJFCarlsson
@CJFCarlsson Жыл бұрын
@@derhafi Good one, Rob!
@leapedrosa4475
@leapedrosa4475 Жыл бұрын
1) THEISM: Covers the SUBJECT form the BEGINNING/ORIGIN to the END and towards the NEW BEGINNING -- NO GAPS. ORIGIN: The BEGINNING of life, the universe, and everything -- CREATION WORK of a SUPREME BEING called GOD/CREATOR. REFERENCE: HOLY BIBLE (KJV ONLY). 2) ATHEISM: No ORIGIN of life, the universe, and everything -- gaps in atheism -- mental gaps suffered by atheists.
@williamstroud1455
@williamstroud1455 Жыл бұрын
I think his statements about the time our planet has existed is not based on the Bible, but science and I believe the theory that it has been around for "billions of years" is false. The Bible does not teach that so how can he say what he does about billions of years and say he is a Bible believing Christian?
@gecg7393
@gecg7393 Жыл бұрын
HE's the GOD of everything so how can he be the GOD of the gaps, when the Bible clearly states His attributes of creating all things
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
Because when we don’t have an answer for something and theists say “God did it”….that’s god of the gaps
@gecg7393
@gecg7393 Жыл бұрын
​@@therick363 i know what is meant by god of the gap, read again what i wrote, if GOD created all things then there's nothing outside of HIM, the only gap is with us, not GOD, and I believe GOD is real the most high, it's a bit silly thinking that all this came by chance lol
@JessicaSunlight
@JessicaSunlight Жыл бұрын
@@therick363 My father built a bout once, I have never seen it done, because I was not born yet, but I know my father did it, I would say "Father did it", where is God of the gaps in this? God indeed did it, you just don't know how, but that's entirely another question - its your personal lack of knowledge and not magical way of thinking. magical way of thinking "Mindless nature without purpose and goal, that was born out of nothing" did it... Well... Magic indeed... I know you can play a mental game and say we just don't know how mindless, without consciousness, that was born out of nothing nature did... And I would say, Indeed person that never had been born and never existed have invented something in the world today is pure logical way of thinking. Well for a mental hospital this is acceptable, for a normal society such way of thinking is a joke.
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
@@gecg7393 yes IF God created everything. That’s the thing. That’s what many believe and that’s fine it really is. But when someone goes past belief and says it’s a fact….that’s a problem. _its a bit silly thinking all this came by chance lol_ It’s a bit silly thinking all this came by magic.
@therick363
@therick363 Жыл бұрын
@@JessicaSunlight there is a HUGE difference between your father and some God. _God indeed did it, you just don’t know how, but that’s entirely another question-it’s your personal lack of knowledge and not magical way of thinking_ Sigh. You see why do so many believers go right to disrespect? Saying God indeed did it means you need to prove it…..no one has. Don’t pull some dodging/shifting please. Be better. _magical way of thinking “mindless nature without purpose and goal, that was born out of nothing” did it…well….magic indeed…I know you can play a mental game and say…._ Holy crap talk about blatant ignorance, lying and disrespect. Show me where I said any of that……come on now….. I must say, when you have to use loaded vocabulary to try to make a point…you fail right away. How about you come back, like an adult and try having a conversation this time. Learn to ask and listen and share. Because your reply? Showed a lack of respect, integrity and maturity.
@andrej1659
@andrej1659 Жыл бұрын
When we’re you at Waterloo?
@evgenyselensky4036
@evgenyselensky4036 Жыл бұрын
The error so many speakers are prone to is that we should not even discuss this stupid stuff about probabilities simply because (1) the probability of any event whatsoever is > 0 in theory, (2) more importantly, though, this probability business ASSUMES the Shannon information model which is just NOT applicable to biological (and any other) function. It is wrong to even engage in this sort of rhetoric, 10^100 or whatever. All this poker hand business is so misleading. Function is just something the Shannon information model is incapable of addressing. Function is NOT additive, function is extremely rare in the space of possible configurations, the more complex function is, the more rare and smaller the islands of function get. The probabilistic take on this is misleading, if you are not careful and if you do not consider practical limitations which render all these laughable 'non-zero' probabilities to an operational zero (Borel's principle). At the heart of biological function lies a language and its complementary processing, where both the system's description and the system's description processor's description are encoded using the same protocol, while the encoding is handled in dual manner: it is copied and passed on to N+1-th generation and interpreted at N-th generation. This is what is going on here. Without intelligence this is insoluble. Because no granted natural regularity is up to the task of creating irregular symbolic boundary conditions for itself without telic guidance. The 'frosen accident' kind of narrative is not even wrong. Both regularity and randomness are equally information killers, which is the greatest blunder of Darwinists. Information is specified complexity unlike regularity (low complexity) or randomness (unspecified complexity). The naturalistic apparatus is just not going to get us anywhere in this, it is inadequate for the task of explaning the OOL. Not sure I share Dr Tour's optimism in this regard.
@nataneliasschwenk9308
@nataneliasschwenk9308 Жыл бұрын
How did Mt. Rushmore appear? If human intervention is excluded, there is no reason to say that eventually scientific ingenuity will figure it out. Dr. Tour, you conceed too much.
@walkerpercy8702
@walkerpercy8702 7 ай бұрын
Ironically "God of the gaps" is what evolutionists need for their theory to work. "If enough time..." is an argument based on faith.
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