I use the 2 loops on a dacron connector. I used to use a stonfo connector until I was shown the light with dacron. Great video.

I tried a little experiment, instead of a Dacron connector I sleeved the top 3 inches with hollow elastic then just tied a double overhand knot in it. It did not disappear into my top kit and then double loop method fitted easy onto it, very safe as the line could not cut into the double elastic and also an immediate strike as no Dacron or bead to move first,, Try it guys, it works fine and no expense paying for connectors.

I always leave a tag on my loop so when it comes to removing the rig I just pull the tag of line and off it comes, very handy in the winter when hands are cold 🥶

ive never cut my small loop on the large loop ,will be doing from now on as makes sense to do so .

Great video lads

I love these basics films, I think they’re really useful. What I’d like to see is a shooting film. So, the weight difference between the numbers and the amount of shot on the line for a 4x16, 4x14 that kinda thing. I personally really struggle as it’s usually no8’s all over the place.

Use to use Andy's way years ago, but behind a crows foot

I use the single loop, on small lines use a baiting needle to lift the loop up👌

I still use stonfos as I like to do as few knots as possible on the bank side as I can't feel the line in my fingers when tying loops etc. If stonfos damage elastic maybe a dacron on the elastic and a stonfo tied on to the dacron and then the rig connected to the dacron connector could be a good halfway house?

I watched a video of des ship doing one but being a novice Andy’s way seems so much easier

iv been doing my rigs the same as andy for quite a while and thought i was a smart arse.... seems that lots of people had the same idea hahah .

I use the two loops to dacron but I tie the small loop first I find this much easier

I learned the hard way when not cutting the little loop haha

I weigh the pros and cons of each and use what is best for what the situation requires, for shalla and through the water tapered rigs i use direct to the laccy with a bead, for down the edge i want a dacron so i never have to worry about durability issues if i foul hook an elephant, which i have done before on cudmore arena lake, rig-rig + end of elastic + bead all went bye bye that day.

So Andy you don’t recommend Des Shipp’s Preston dacrons with figure of eight knott.?

I buy dacron connectors but i find them too long, so i shorten them so there's about 1cm if that sticking out the bead.

Agree on casters,bloody 5 quid a pint joke tbh😮😮

What's the advantage of the bead method over the old school crows foot connection?

What about the fine, solid 4's, 5's and 6's that canal / natural venue anglers sometimes use?

So for Dacron connectors use the small ones

Tried it both ways but I find the bead ends up 2ft up the elastic away from the pole rig and I have to pull it down every time I get a fish. How do you stop this from happening? Thanks

A fishery near me are charging £5 a pint of caster and £4 for maggots, F-ing scandalous. 2019 i was paying £2.50 and £2 for maggots but, i buy bulk 25kg bags of pellets for £35 which last me up to 2 years.

Short Dacron every time no line cuts into the elastic or danger of elastic pulling into the top kit

I prefer Jamie’s way, less fiddly

Andy saying his way is simple compared to Jamie's way lol how is that more simple ?. I always just do one loop plus leave rigs left on top kits so second loop is completely unnecessary. Even silvers rigs the main line is never going to be that light.

I tried Dacron and lost a whole rig first session. Never again. Stonfos for me all day.