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Controller Settings To SIMPLY BEAM Enemies In Apex Legends!

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TimProVision

TimProVision

Күн бұрын

Here are a few settings that are simple but will help you beam more in Apex Legends Season 15! Let me know if these Apex Legends tips and tricks are helpful and what we should cover next! The best controller settings for apex season 15 are up to the individual player but this is definitely a good start.
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@TimProVision
@TimProVision Жыл бұрын
Let me know if you have any other settings questions! Happy gaming yall!
@noahschlosser5804
@noahschlosser5804 Жыл бұрын
I'll keep this in mind! Thanks for the video Tim!
@Flowy_fn
@Flowy_fn Жыл бұрын
Can I get a shoutout or can you friend me please
@luffy7626
@luffy7626 Жыл бұрын
This helped me so much
@deadeye4634
@deadeye4634 Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much for these settings I was going to quit but you stopped me
@haystackplays
@haystackplays 5 ай бұрын
Best aim advice on KZfaq.
@caseyguilfoyle4580
@caseyguilfoyle4580 Жыл бұрын
Remember, if you really want to beam your enemies, it takes practice, time and patience. It’s not gonna happen over night.
@onlyme8305
@onlyme8305 Жыл бұрын
yes it will
@harrisonmorandin5980
@harrisonmorandin5980 Жыл бұрын
@R pretty hard to get used to when going back to it from ALC. feels so slow but long range beaming is easy as hell
@tdestroyer4780
@tdestroyer4780 Жыл бұрын
and the right settings\setup. Default 3-3 classic is just a little too slow for me even when I was a noob. This is the only game I play where the controls feel just slightly off and inconsistent. People just get lucky and find the perfect settings for them I guess.
@marshallmxtakeslzz
@marshallmxtakeslzz Жыл бұрын
​@@tdestroyer4780put 3-3 or 4-3 settings on alc and then change response curve to the best one for you
@leviathanplays351
@leviathanplays351 Жыл бұрын
i got better at mw2 over night bc the settings ACTUALLY make sense to get used to in half a day for me but yall can think its cap if u want
@brandonvokurka2272
@brandonvokurka2272 Жыл бұрын
I prefer 5-4 steady, but everybody is different, I used to play linear cause all the streamers would say it's best, but everybody's different, 4-4 classic (as he said in this video) is a great starting point to figure out how the controller feels to you.
@tayuchiha254
@tayuchiha254 Жыл бұрын
Yeah I play 5-4 classic just to really test my self I played a couple matches with 8-8 and linear but that was definitely too much all at once
@liamu1017
@liamu1017 8 ай бұрын
there’s a reason why 4-4 classic no dead zone and 4-3 linear small dead zone are the controller settings all pros suggest. it’s the most optimal speed of your movement and aim for aim assist
@Baxitron
@Baxitron 5 ай бұрын
Sure everyone is different but 5-4 steady is objectively terrible. You’re completely handicapping your tracking up close and flicking is next to impossible. I guarantee you’d have better mechanics if you just got used to classic or linear.
@brandonvokurka2272
@brandonvokurka2272 5 ай бұрын
@@Baxitron I mean, I'm in the top 1.87% on PS5... But I just switched to Xbox unfortunately and I don't even wanna play it anymore fr, the input delay is so bad and the game went so far downhill tbh
@wolfyffx
@wolfyffx 3 ай бұрын
thanks for the recommendation i feel like that might be fit for me
@cavae5655
@cavae5655 Жыл бұрын
Personal recc, I use 5-3 linear with small deadzone. I myself have a huge issue with drift of normal linear, so small dead zone is where it's at for me. It's great for all legends, but Horizon is the best tor these settings, personally. If you feel too slow, 5-4 is also great, though more catered to SMGs and Shotguns. Hope that can help some peeps out there!
@IcyZoxy
@IcyZoxy Жыл бұрын
Everyone is different, every aims differently, holds the controller differently, use different parts of the thumbs to aim differently, brains are wired differently, I have friends who literally can only play super low sens, some only high sens(sticks make a big difference, higher stick users use higher sens, while people who use default analog sticks play lower sens.) Same goes for other settings like FOV, etc.. Some people sit further away from their monitors than others therefore they need a lower fov, some people sit closer so they need a higher fov, I use to copy other people's settings, and it literally never made me a better player, only worse. Find what works for you and fine tune, there's just too many factors that make everyone different. Same goes for the binds, some people play claw, some people play hybrid claw, some people play hybrid claw, some people have scuf paddles in the back, some people have battle beaver buttons, some people don't have any. Copying someone's binds is probably the worse thing someone can do. Find what works for you and tweak. Everyone who makes settings videos are just clickbaiting, using someones settings/binds could actually put you at disadvantage as there are simply too many factors to account for. Hopefully you got some insight from this.
@mikethestoner
@mikethestoner Жыл бұрын
Spot on
@ll2328
@ll2328 Жыл бұрын
Stfu just put 4.3 classic no dead zone if you cant one clip with that ur just a bot stop the game fr
@devonwhite9398
@devonwhite9398 8 ай бұрын
Underrated comment
@mxlnhie
@mxlnhie Жыл бұрын
I'm playing 3-3 small look dedzone and it's been pretty good hit dimond with it
@TimProVision
@TimProVision Жыл бұрын
great to hear!
@igiveup2529
@igiveup2529 Жыл бұрын
tried it it made me have nice accuracy with my shots but fr it felt like i had slowness 255
@magicnebula5398
@magicnebula5398 Жыл бұрын
Chet ubetcha a goat fr playing on this for years I can't believe and he mains gibby I could never I play 4-3 classic or linear small deadzone linear none classic it's alright but I think 5-4 might be the wave
@kvrmv4k476
@kvrmv4k476 Жыл бұрын
@@igiveup25295-3 is solid asf as well
@KingMazza
@KingMazza Жыл бұрын
@@kvrmv4k476 that’s mind rn I only put it up to 5 for mantle jumps
@lunk565
@lunk565 Жыл бұрын
If you guys have sticky aim on controller try linear responsive curve, (if you have ALC off)when I tried it my aim got so much better, at first it was weird but I got used to it.
@Mr_CORRUPT_TY
@Mr_CORRUPT_TY 11 ай бұрын
This helped a lot thanks for the tip
@mikaelerosecrans2093
@mikaelerosecrans2093 Ай бұрын
Vibration off helps me with longer focus it’s more fun on cod and overwatch but I ain’t got enough money from new console so gotta stick with what I can
@ayaanazeem8609
@ayaanazeem8609 14 күн бұрын
I use 500 500 alcs with 185 and 160 for my ads. Surprisingly it’s very consistent and I adapted to these really fast.
@nicolasquetstroey5432
@nicolasquetstroey5432 Жыл бұрын
5-4 linear with small deadzone it’s a must for me!
@Le7halInjection
@Le7halInjection Жыл бұрын
That's what I play on and it's alright
@LightexPlays
@LightexPlays 9 ай бұрын
I swear this guys quality is so crispy every single video
@jasonhernandez2776
@jasonhernandez2776 10 ай бұрын
3-3 linear but alc conversions, turn off the ramp up time for extra yaw and pitch no ads. Takes some getting used to but literally is 3 3 linear with immediate turns.
@xXTheBigMatt94xX
@xXTheBigMatt94xX Жыл бұрын
The only reason why I keep vibration on still even though I know it's better to have it off is because of the feedback it provides. I like knowing that I have instantly hit a dead slide because the vibration from a dead slide is much weaker so you instantly know when you're dead sliding. With vibration off I feel like it takes a split second longer to realize I'm dead sliding by simply looking at the screen and noticing I'm travelling slower than usual. Is there some sort of visual indicator to know I've hit a dead slide instantly?
@saltycomet
@saltycomet Жыл бұрын
No just comes with general game sense
@kashbandi7461
@kashbandi7461 Жыл бұрын
U can tell u are dead sliding by the way you alose.
@Ihavereallynoidea
@Ihavereallynoidea Жыл бұрын
That's exactly what I feel like.
@MiIitia
@MiIitia Жыл бұрын
You should know because you don't slide like you normally would. Also from muscle memory
@LDMX98
@LDMX98 Жыл бұрын
Bro I felt the same and just turned it off for a few days and got used to it trust you won’t look back once you’ve mastered the senses
@LightexPlays
@LightexPlays 9 ай бұрын
Been watching since season 8, W video everytime
@AngleOfDeathAOD
@AngleOfDeathAOD Ай бұрын
I play bangalore day1 i use 6 5 steady trust me after u get used to it its good
@lury5430
@lury5430 8 ай бұрын
I’m a 4-4 classic and got it by testing and it was the one that fit me the best
@kennydominguez4730
@kennydominguez4730 Жыл бұрын
i liked playing 4:3 but i felt like i still wasn’t as good as i could be. Try ALC if your aim still doesn’t feel right. definitely helped me
@auhin
@auhin Жыл бұрын
Nah i think that alc is unnecessary for majority of players, all preference tho
@MichaelTrujilloJ23
@MichaelTrujilloJ23 Жыл бұрын
Do you still use ALC ? What do you use ?
@hahayes275
@hahayes275 Жыл бұрын
I for some reason am unable to use classic so I’ve been doing 4-3 linear small dead zone and it’s improved my aim so much I can now shred from all ranges so if you want something a bit different this is 4-3 is for u
@tacomania7954
@tacomania7954 Жыл бұрын
Try with no deadzone. That helps u shred too
@ChristopherJohnson-oc2oe
@ChristopherJohnson-oc2oe Жыл бұрын
@@tacomania7954how much of a difference is it from small to none?
@SycoticWRLD
@SycoticWRLD Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much!!
@NC-cd3jr
@NC-cd3jr 23 күн бұрын
4-3 linear best!! Most aa, and best of you play allot
@sylveonnn3704
@sylveonnn3704 Жыл бұрын
This helped a lot thanks!
@shroomytoodope7375
@shroomytoodope7375 Жыл бұрын
I don't like 4 - 4 I feel like having the vertical one lower then the horizontal makes u feel way cleaner bc when ur holding down to counter recoil its helps to not over move down when holding fown for recoil
@brandonsantana5981
@brandonsantana5981 Жыл бұрын
I use alc so i keep my deadzone at 6% so i dont have drift. Its a lot better than having use the preset. If you want easy beams with alcs use 200 200 for ads. I use 200 170 though because for me the vertical is a bit too much
@sidknee1738
@sidknee1738 Жыл бұрын
Bruh that’s too high
@woohootinyrick3580
@woohootinyrick3580 4 ай бұрын
I went against the grain and went ALC and started at 15 Response Curve and worked my way to 0, now I’m on 3:3 Linear and after practicing in the Shooting Range and Mixtape my shots have gotten so much better! But *PLEASE* do not try that lol Obviously you can if you want but it took a lot of practice and was *definitely* not easy lol
@saltycomet
@saltycomet Жыл бұрын
I got way better once I lowered my deadzone and put my response curve on 1. Way better for me
@TimProVision
@TimProVision Жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing!
@zechvibes1748
@zechvibes1748 4 ай бұрын
For me with vibration on since I'm deaf it helps me slot when I get shot at
@user-rg8vo6bq9g
@user-rg8vo6bq9g 7 ай бұрын
Personal opinion ALC's are not all that it's way better to use 4,4 classic or 5,4 classic or even 4,4 linear is really good. 4,4 classic is useful if your not used to fast sense then that's what you should do, 5,4 classic is almost the same with 4,4 however it's nice to have your hip fire alit faster letting you turn or hit shield swaps alot eaiser. 4,4 linear is if you want complete total control of your right stick, the reason why you would do 4,4 instead of 5,4 is because it's total uncontrollable as linear will take the aim assist off. If your using a custom controller like an Xbox elite controller with your own personal sense you should have it on linear as it feels the most natural. I hope this helps
@shroomytoodope7375
@shroomytoodope7375 Жыл бұрын
Honestly and truly what helped me was going to the firing range no attachments and aiming in and learning what ur gun does bc it does the same pattern all the time if u do this enough you'll get good with guns u suck with an u will eventually subconsciously be able to hit them one clips
@Tax.-ti2mr
@Tax.-ti2mr Жыл бұрын
U said some stick drift when I turned it off my cross hair drifts by itself 😅
@4zuco
@4zuco Жыл бұрын
after your off training wheels with classic switch to 4-3 linear.
@volktol4432
@volktol4432 Жыл бұрын
Just switched to that a few days ago, it’s better than any alcs I’ve done and it’s smoother than classic
@RXti-oy8vt
@RXti-oy8vt Жыл бұрын
​@@volktol4432facts. Haven't looked back since
@Sackattack1696
@Sackattack1696 Жыл бұрын
Exactly
@ChristopherJohnson-oc2oe
@ChristopherJohnson-oc2oe Жыл бұрын
Small dead zone or none ?
@4zuco
@4zuco Жыл бұрын
@@ChristopherJohnson-oc2oe whatever feels better to you brotha but I prefer small deadzone
@Jdcodm4u
@Jdcodm4u 7 ай бұрын
Good vid
@ShootahTTV
@ShootahTTV 7 ай бұрын
I play 6-3 classic and I be beaming and flying movement and aim is great for a new starter of apex
@ShootahTTV
@ShootahTTV 7 ай бұрын
6-3 classic no dead zone per opts
@Xtentionn
@Xtentionn 3 ай бұрын
I use high sensitivity and low ads sensitivity, honestly better than it maxed out
@Boredmgoprao
@Boredmgoprao Жыл бұрын
4-2 linear actually crazy
@jonsotbh1565
@jonsotbh1565 Жыл бұрын
i play 4-3 let me check it out
@andrewdescant4996
@andrewdescant4996 10 ай бұрын
@@jonsotbh1565How was it?
@homegrownhydroponics8205
@homegrownhydroponics8205 Жыл бұрын
4 3 linear small deadzone !
@n64slayer
@n64slayer 4 ай бұрын
Stick drift is not worth anything, I haven't used a controller that can run less than a 3 deadzone, and even then the stick drift is unfathomable, don't use zero dead zone use 3-5 and if your controller can't do that without drift, sorry to tell you but your gonna need a better controller
@ZaydenSchmol
@ZaydenSchmol 10 ай бұрын
I have so much stick drift and this a new controller
@McVilla1N
@McVilla1N 7 ай бұрын
Saw that skin and laughed because i knew this was old asf LMAO why is this in my algorithm?😂😂
@pressmessmorph2pc839
@pressmessmorph2pc839 7 ай бұрын
Me hoping gyro aiming comes to ps4 or even 5
@B__________
@B__________ 11 ай бұрын
I use a kontrol freak what sensitivity should I use?
@Brøndbysutter
@Brøndbysutter Жыл бұрын
TYSm
@Memeattraction
@Memeattraction Жыл бұрын
4-4 classic i have problem with accuracy when adsing or at mid/long distance, any help?
@GrimAgent
@GrimAgent Жыл бұрын
Do not turn off your deadzone, just put it on small
@turtles3
@turtles3 Жыл бұрын
I hate how people tell that turning dead zone to the lowest its going to make you better, it's not always that way.
@TimProVision
@TimProVision Жыл бұрын
Everything should be catered to the player. Everything is a recommendation
@aaOutset
@aaOutset 10 ай бұрын
The game sees stick drift as player input, meaning AA will be active the whole time, tracking at 40%
@randalsandal-nf9ix
@randalsandal-nf9ix 3 ай бұрын
Make sure to do the ALS bleed through glitch. Will give you 0 recoil. All the pros use it.
@MaxeW_SW
@MaxeW_SW 3 ай бұрын
It's not a Glitch. Respawn are aware of this since a long time
@billybob-fw3vr
@billybob-fw3vr Ай бұрын
What do you mean
@randalsandal-nf9ix
@randalsandal-nf9ix Ай бұрын
@@billybob-fw3vr advanced look settings. Look it up. It’s specifically the per optic sensitivity settings. When you mess with it and turn it off you’ll get zero recoil. You have to do it every time you start the game up on console and there’s an extra step if your on pc. You can get it working on your own because it’s simple but make sure you practice without it in firing range and then go into the per optic settings and mess with it so you know it actually works. The videos on twitter but probably on KZfaq too.
@sleepybrown1459
@sleepybrown1459 Жыл бұрын
I found 7, 4 linear to work real good
@Octane-yt350
@Octane-yt350 3 ай бұрын
Does this count for Nintendo switch to?
@jdatin770
@jdatin770 7 ай бұрын
Alc goated
@HunterZTheLunatic
@HunterZTheLunatic Жыл бұрын
Playing 6-5 on controller and i beam people to the moon and back. Edit: BTW this is a good channel so you earned a sub 👍
@MichaelTrujilloJ23
@MichaelTrujilloJ23 Жыл бұрын
I just stopped using ALC. I found myself trying to tweak my settings then just playing.
@Hari_Photography
@Hari_Photography Жыл бұрын
Nice vid 👍
@Midrangedrodent
@Midrangedrodent Жыл бұрын
Im somebody who likes vibration because of the extra resistance and also I've already gotten to used to it so........
@ZachSaulsberry
@ZachSaulsberry 6 ай бұрын
I have hall effect joysticks no stick drift
@UnconsciousAtmosphere
@UnconsciousAtmosphere Жыл бұрын
This is lit thank you
@CoolRob97
@CoolRob97 Күн бұрын
My vibration is locked on permanently for some reason 😢
@THEMIDNIGHTGAMER5
@THEMIDNIGHTGAMER5 Жыл бұрын
I just watched this I'm now beaming people left and right thank you so much keep up the good work
@danieldutton9770
@danieldutton9770 Жыл бұрын
Im playing 4-4 classic on controller is there anything else im missing in settings
@honorus
@honorus Жыл бұрын
I love controller The vibration feels more emersive
@radiantabsoluteradiance3385
@radiantabsoluteradiance3385 Жыл бұрын
I’m on alc and on 500 500 I can’t do lower sens
@heldvenomzx3730
@heldvenomzx3730 Жыл бұрын
Ngl I like vibration just so I know I’m getting shot at because sometimes I get shot and not realise
@KeyingEspidosa
@KeyingEspidosa 8 күн бұрын
It wouldn’t matter if I had vibration on or not, it isn’t even connected in my controller, lol
@parkeruk8417
@parkeruk8417 11 ай бұрын
For me deadzone off is way to touchy
@poohshiesty9751
@poohshiesty9751 Жыл бұрын
What is 4-4 classic?
@TimProVision
@TimProVision Жыл бұрын
Sensitivity setting
@poohshiesty9751
@poohshiesty9751 Жыл бұрын
@@TimProVision so 4-4 is better
@greypoint000
@greypoint000 Жыл бұрын
@@poohshiesty9751 I guess?
@c2tct
@c2tct Жыл бұрын
Per optic?
@SemajBenton
@SemajBenton Жыл бұрын
It helped me thank you
@LordVodka313
@LordVodka313 8 ай бұрын
“4 4 classic” is the way
@loganmillington8044
@loganmillington8044 7 ай бұрын
I don’t get how no look dead zone helps? My screen is all over the place lol
@lollis_garage3683
@lollis_garage3683 Жыл бұрын
Trying this tonight 👍🏼
@Mugen948
@Mugen948 8 ай бұрын
That’s wild, when the vibration is off I literally cannot aim for shit. Does anyone else have this issue?
@tacomania7954
@tacomania7954 Жыл бұрын
No deadzone is the key. It doesn't Even matter if you have stick drift. Any controller has stick drift
@charleswilson5386
@charleswilson5386 Жыл бұрын
I love playing linear 4-6
@mikethestoner
@mikethestoner Жыл бұрын
I feel no deadzones makes me feel sick while playing linear might try it on classic not played classic for a while
@DandandanTelevison
@DandandanTelevison Жыл бұрын
Just switched to 4-4 and got a 2k badge with wraith in my first game of the day.😅
@Jess-Cruz
@Jess-Cruz Жыл бұрын
I do 5 4 large dead zone my stick drift is wayyy to noticeable and no clue how to fix that
@Jess-Cruz
@Jess-Cruz Жыл бұрын
@ctp035 about a year now but with cats and dogs it falls every so often so yeah but im maintaining plat rank and almost in diamond for the first time with this bad boi lol
@Jess-Cruz
@Jess-Cruz Жыл бұрын
@ctp035 and I also solo que ranked that's definitly not easy for a beginer for sure
@staffydidthat3619
@staffydidthat3619 Жыл бұрын
What about stick drift lol? Turning deadzone off is horrible
@amazing807steam
@amazing807steam Жыл бұрын
How do you beam people if you are getting lasered by them
@alimailk1919
@alimailk1919 Жыл бұрын
Guess everyone's diff I play at max everything n works just fine
@igiveup2529
@igiveup2529 Жыл бұрын
tried turning off my controller vibration ... i couldn't even realise if i was getting shot at
@MiIitia
@MiIitia Жыл бұрын
You get used to it, it's definitely benefital to turn it off
@igiveup2529
@igiveup2529 Жыл бұрын
@@MiIitia i literally got used to it in 2 days and yea true it's much better
@creamychicken2876
@creamychicken2876 Жыл бұрын
Wow surprisingly helped a lot Like a lot
@TyTheGreat09
@TyTheGreat09 Жыл бұрын
Me and my brother tried to 1v1 with no vibrate on and I felt sick
@horizonkanyon
@horizonkanyon 6 ай бұрын
4 4 i play on 7 8 classic
@thesecondunfairesteel1755
@thesecondunfairesteel1755 14 күн бұрын
I feel bad for casual players. The default controls are so bad. You need alcs to actually beam.
@lordlightning311
@lordlightning311 Жыл бұрын
4-3 classic no deadzone, 2-3x: 4, 4x+: 5
@mr.mirror7238
@mr.mirror7238 Жыл бұрын
What does it mean to beam??
@Khaos1037
@Khaos1037 Жыл бұрын
4 3 Linear with no deadzone 🙏
@myinbox8125
@myinbox8125 Жыл бұрын
4-3 linear on a new controller gives your guy noodle Arms
@t-shirtsyoulove5210
@t-shirtsyoulove5210 Ай бұрын
Me a master with vibration on🥱
@lemonking7152
@lemonking7152 Жыл бұрын
But I use the vibrations to see if I'm getting shot
@MiIitia
@MiIitia Жыл бұрын
You can still easily tell without it on
@marcosmayen8765
@marcosmayen8765 Жыл бұрын
What’s the loba skin in the beginning called? Can you still unlock?
@wyacxrrell
@wyacxrrell Жыл бұрын
I feel like I'm the only person who uses 7-3 sensitivity
@unbound9094
@unbound9094 Жыл бұрын
I felt like I was was doing something wrong looking at these comments bc I play 6-3 glad I ain’t the only one😭
@wyacxrrell
@wyacxrrell Жыл бұрын
@@unbound9094 I meant to say 6 I play 6-3 as well and do way better than 4-3
@mr_bruh7915
@mr_bruh7915 Жыл бұрын
Deadzone doesnt matter if you use the prowler this thing fkn devours through red shield like its nothing
@WetRewipe
@WetRewipe 5 ай бұрын
3-3 classic gang
@dylanwakefield416
@dylanwakefield416 Жыл бұрын
4-4 classic?? What is that
@phasedthrough3647
@phasedthrough3647 Жыл бұрын
Lol copying someone’s sens never works like KZfaqrs advertise. Just look at all the poor saps trying to copy genburtens settings and being unable to hit a shot😂
@MiIitia
@MiIitia Жыл бұрын
Because his sens is weird for the normal person you have to grip your controller hard I've heard
@juancastaneda7153
@juancastaneda7153 Жыл бұрын
You just gotta get used to it but it definitely works
@nagaanish715
@nagaanish715 Жыл бұрын
They do it so u can't shoot.lol.Always got everybody changing settings week2week while they bn set since the start.
@goldtyphlosion7537
@goldtyphlosion7537 Жыл бұрын
Drift is honestly worse for your aim than dead zones
@SolitudeInE-Minor
@SolitudeInE-Minor Жыл бұрын
How so? As long as it’s not crazy drift it’s good. If you are aiming then you are moving the right stick therefore during that moment there won’t be drift, if you are moving the thumb stick it won’t drift. You’ll only notice the drift if you are standing still like ratting or something
@Michael-zu1wy
@Michael-zu1wy 6 ай бұрын
I have better aim with recoil on it,im just so used to it
@lgamer5133
@lgamer5133 Жыл бұрын
Honorable mention: aimbot
@Jersgaminfishing
@Jersgaminfishing Жыл бұрын
It says ai 1 enabled
@TimProVision
@TimProVision Жыл бұрын
?
@Yusama975
@Yusama975 Жыл бұрын
I’m left handed 😂
@Sebastian.H4
@Sebastian.H4 Жыл бұрын
I don’t understand the last tip😅😅
@codyhardy712
@codyhardy712 Жыл бұрын
4 4 classic put both you sens on 4 and put your controller on classic
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