Howell Raines, from the NYT wrote once: Surely he must in every quiet and prosperous moment hear the ceaseless whispers of those poor boys in the infantry, dying in the tall grass, platoon by platoon, for no purpose. What he took from them cannot be repaid by prime-time apology and stale tears, three decades late.
@californiaslastgasp68472 жыл бұрын
“For no purpose”? Give me a break.
@MrAlien91113 жыл бұрын
Mr. mason were are glad to have you back
@peternorthrup62744 жыл бұрын
One of the few men that chould have put a stop to the war. There are alot of men that cant wait to see you in the after life.
@PacoOtis3 жыл бұрын
McNamara's family can love him all they want but if they respect that deceitful liar who betrayed his soldiers and his Country I have no respect for them. Even after he left office and knew all the lies he remained quiet as thousands more died! What a pitiful creature!! Yes, I'm a Vietnam vet and named my son after my flight school buddy who came back in a box and would be 71, but died when he was 20.
@tiamatxvxianash92024 жыл бұрын
Wow. This was something to watch. Surely history will recognize Robert McNamara as the best definition ever of what a "Technocrat" is . Yet his abilities were truly much more. One can clearly see he had already made peace with himself as he fielded host Kreisler's challenging questions, particularly about his responsibilities as Secretary of Defense during the Vietnam War. Thank You UCTV. RIP Robert.
@robertlytle93873 жыл бұрын
Rest in Hell McNamara. USMC1969-1971
@god-of-war-fan Жыл бұрын
@@robertlytle9387 why?
@robertlytle5574 Жыл бұрын
@@god-of-war-fan McNamara was instrumental in helping LBJ fight the war in Vietnam. He has the blood on his hands of thousands of Vietnam veterans. He also like most of the politicians of his era, when the men came back, were more than glad to let us take the blame for the war. Also it should be noted that he had two sons who were old enough to fight in Vietnam, but were not even drafted. USMC 1969-1971
@korancebland3 ай бұрын
The Fog of War is one of the best documentaries I've ever seen.
@SPHG42513 жыл бұрын
I salute McNamara, the best zombie killer ever
@namatez15 жыл бұрын
I was at an oil industry conference ten years ago where mcnamara was speaking and this guy knew more about the industry than most of the people in the room. I was not alive during vietnam or the crazy 60's but I believe if Kennedy left McNamara at Ford he would have been the greatest CEO in history.
@SStupendous3 жыл бұрын
Ten years ago, and this comment was made 11 years ago, meaning it's 21 years ago now..
@seanjohnson73673 жыл бұрын
did you blow him?
@KeithWilliamMacHendry3 жыл бұрын
@@seanjohnson7367 You are a walaper!
@nitricacid3714 Жыл бұрын
@@SStupendous 23 years ago! :(
@SStupendous Жыл бұрын
@@nitricacid3714 Dear God! My reply to you is now 2 yeards old already... time really flies. When this reply is 2 years old, we'll be 1/4 of the way through this century!
@donokeefe39607 жыл бұрын
Alternate title for this video: Harry Kreisler throws softballs to Robert McNamara for an hour
@mwilliams32784 жыл бұрын
I’m sorry but him attending cal Berkeley at $52 a year is my biggest takeaway. That is so far removed from where we are today.
@blazodeolireta3 жыл бұрын
for how much more the $ was worth or for how cheap uni was?
@californiaslastgasp68472 жыл бұрын
$52 in 1933 (McNamara’s freshman year) is $1,115 in 2021 dollars. The closest media income figure I could find was the median engineer’s salary in 1932: $2,574. Tuition therefore cost 2% of the engineer’s salary. Median civil engineer salary in 2020 was $88,570. UC Berkley’s undergraduate tuition and fees for 21-22: $9,213. That’s 10% of the median civil engineer salary. The difference isn’t that big when one accounts for inflation.
@charms7112 жыл бұрын
This man's intelligence is frightening.
@leecarney43732 ай бұрын
Watch The Fog of War One of the greatest documentaries made
@djpalindromeАй бұрын
His amorality and willingness to have other people get killed is what scares me
@flyhead215 жыл бұрын
McNamara has overly fond memories of himself and his ilk. He waxes poetically about his tenure at The World Bank; anyone familiar with the activities of the WB will be scratching their heads about that.
@charlesbukowski98362 жыл бұрын
oh i dont buy him for a second....but he was fabulous with the cuban missle crises
@Yo_Kelz Жыл бұрын
@@charlesbukowski9836but a mere drop in the ocean of blood he’s gutted from human civilization.
@jo19484 жыл бұрын
This was recorded on 5/15/1996, for those curious.
@solohoh13 жыл бұрын
He learned his ethics at Berkeley and then directed the terror bombing of Japan in WW II, then directed even greater atrocities in the Vietnam War? He is a very brilliant man who finally learned some ethics after that confrontation with Harvard students during the Vietnam War. " In Retrospect" is the courageous story of his regrets and awakening, but it admits that Berkeley and Harvard failed to teach him about character development and ethics. There is a lot of blood on his hands.
@JustT7254 жыл бұрын
If Mr. McNamara had been a conservative republican, do you think he would've gotten the pass that he received? I find it ironic that JFK, LBJ & this guy gets a pass on Vietnam, and how everyone is quick to jump on he legacy of Nixon.
@ansarmaskenov52843 жыл бұрын
Nixon during elections claimed that he had secret plan to end war. Total number of fatalities for his years of presidency are higher than LBJ and JFK's. Not to mention that he expanded war from Vietnam to nearby countries.
@thecollector43322 жыл бұрын
JFK gets a pass because his involvement in Vietnam was minimal. Only sending military consultants and nothing more. LJB barely gets a pass and Nixon gets most of the flack because casualties were the highest during his terms.
@calengr12 жыл бұрын
USA casualties peak in 1968, and then decline under Nixon admin. Hostile or Non Hostile Death Indicator Number of Records HOSTILE DEATH 47,434 NON HOSTILE DEATH 10,786 Total Records 58,220 Record counts provided for informational purposes only, not official statistics. DCAS Vietnam Conflict Extract File record counts by INCIDENT OR DEATH DATE (Year) (as of April 29, 2008 ) Year of Death Number of Records 1956 - 1959 4 1960 5 1961 16 1962 53 1963 122 1964 216 1965 1,928 1966 6,350 1967 11,363 1968 16,899 1969 11,780 1970 6,173 1971 2,414 1972 759 1973 68 1974 1 1975 62 1976 - 1979 0 1980 - 1986 0 1987 1 1988 - 1989 0 1990 1 1991 - 1999 0 2000 - 2006 5 Total Records 58,220
@kluge12453 ай бұрын
What on earth are you talking about? LBJ gets a pass on Vietnam? Since when? Vietnam War is considered the biggest blot on LBJ's presidency. And historians attribute the Vietnam War as the primary motivation for LBJs decision to not run a 2nd term.
@johnbates798311 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed. Thank you for upload.
@springhillgolfer878 Жыл бұрын
This was one of the first "podcasts" I put on my ipod Shuffle. Had to use iTunes on my laptop. No smartphone.
@scchan200911 жыл бұрын
Mcnamara was in a tough position, and he admit he was not a perfect person. People made mistakes - everybody did. Some are worse, but some are not as bad. It is best to do your best, candid about mistakes, try to fix them, and move forward. One of the greatest problem of modern society - self deception, ignorance, not trying, and unwillingness to confront mistakes and truth. Mcnamara was not perfect, and had done terrible things. But he probably is lot wiser and greater person than most.
@dojostarfox45203 жыл бұрын
Sure, in some regards, and he certainly has a niche in logistics and his technical achievements are marginally notable. While I personally I don't blame people in his time for being brainwashed into elitism, I think we as a society do need to retroactively condemn these ideals as they are proving entirely false as data accumulates on environmental impacts on mental function. We know now that all types of people are capable of exceptionalism when all their needs are met, and few people have contributed towards the oppression of more people.
@fruff303 жыл бұрын
So I guess the loss of over 58,000 american lives aswell as countless vietnamese lives was just one big, giant oopsy on his part. Hey we all make mistakes, right?
@Yo_Kelz Жыл бұрын
Over 3 millions deaths isn’t a mistake, it’s genocide.
@hugglescake4 жыл бұрын
The architect of the Vietnam War was an early advocate of car safety. Non-sequitur or oxymoron?
@distantrambler3 жыл бұрын
McNanmara was highly intelligent genius level really.
@hashimawan24333 жыл бұрын
This guy was a Genius in Mathematics....Sadly the Vietnam war went into hell and he had to bear the burden and Nixon had to end it in 74 although nobody gave Nixon the credit for it
@WhoopityDoo14 жыл бұрын
A brilliant man who still had his flaws. However, it's human nature to have flaws. His true genius lied in that later in life, he was able to realize the mistakes he made, and tried to teach others how to learn from those mistakes. He's an incredibly humble man, but you could tell that in "The Fog of War" documentary that he still had deep regrets over Vietnam. He's a helluva man, and worth a heckuva lot more than any politician in Congress or the White House today.
@djpalindromeАй бұрын
This genius was despised by everyone who actually served in the military
@nazu6812 жыл бұрын
McNamara pwned on zombies.
@foxrecon19d15 жыл бұрын
He should be judged by the words of America's enemies. The Soviets, the Chinese, and the North Vietnamese could not have asked for a better ally in their quest to kill American military servicemen. As Vo Nguyen Giap once said jokingly, "McNamara hated the American soldiers more than our own Revolutionary fighters."
@AnthraxCat15 жыл бұрын
No, he was a man who held the most influential position to the President of the largest and most powerful country in history. Everyone makes mistakes, that doesn't make them any less of a mistake, but the consequences of human error are natural, and as long as you make peace with them, those who criticise you simply appear foolish. Let an old hero rest in peace.
@1733Athalia3 жыл бұрын
Berkeley should really push back on having any responsibility for this guy's moral and ethical values.
@AZNkommander13 жыл бұрын
Robert McNamara, I salute you for valiantly defending the Pentagon against the zombie horde.
@ttrons25 жыл бұрын
What about his Project 100,000 A horrible man. Same room as any other secretary of "offense".
@HonestObserver14 жыл бұрын
Aw, he wasn't so bad. McNamara was the one who convinced Johnson to create FOXHOUND after the Boss died in Operation Snake Eater.
@userb3nje9092 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@mazzarouni56082 жыл бұрын
Very interesting. He talks about China and Taiwan clashing and this was in 1996.
@bighoss47432 жыл бұрын
He was a pretty intelligent guy
@KingConservative13 жыл бұрын
@AZNkommander he is the most respectable out of the four.
@cookieman3811115 жыл бұрын
I wonder if when he passes on, he will get to talk to all of the people who died for nothing in Vietnam?
@nonplayerzealot414 жыл бұрын
@MetalAaron That's a brilliant trio of tuba, synthesizer, and church organ, man.
@RadioOperator0113 жыл бұрын
@Smodog124 what does this have to do with the historical events?
@andresherreralopez38023 жыл бұрын
What could be the musical theme at the start of the program? Does anybody whose know about it? Thanks!
@harrymcnamara651911 жыл бұрын
What exactly happened during his time in government? Because the particular time period in which he served must have been secretive, even for secretary of defense.
@bijibadness Жыл бұрын
...this was recorded in 1996??? that intro sounds like 1979! (great intro, by the way, but damn - that's crunchy!)
@itierney11 жыл бұрын
What books is he referring to at 27mins 30sec? On the Vatican council.
@leeweisbecker60486 жыл бұрын
old bob pushed seat belt safety and agent orange.......try to figure that one out
@simonkaroly15 жыл бұрын
I figured it out
@ThatGuy-vw2pi5 жыл бұрын
Old Bob also threw nearly a million Americans, including a couple HUNDRED THOUSAND legitimately retards people into a potential meat grinder over an incident that NEVER HAPPENED! ...Berkeley, Harvard, Ford, President of the World Bank, Sec of Defense, WAR CRIMINAL! ...Rock solid guy! 👎💩
@flyhead215 жыл бұрын
May I see some ID, constable?
@martin213200413 жыл бұрын
Robert S. McNamara R.I.P my nigga
@deceiver123m14 жыл бұрын
those with eyes and ears can see and hear
@fereydoonlealaz15373 жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. I wish it was true.
@willtrib15 жыл бұрын
Robert S. Mcnamara; the architect of the Vietnam war is dead. Walton S. Tissot wrote a interesting tonka about him, simply called Robert Mcnamara it is google- able. He is good!
@RusselBertrand15 жыл бұрын
First one of this I have not given 5 stars to in a long time...McNamara does a much better job on Fog of War
@infokemp15 жыл бұрын
He is LBJ's Albert Spear its a sad state of affairs, much respect to McNamara but the USS Liberty is still a stain on the whole US govt of the time there is no excuse for treason.
@SUpersaiyajinjerkbag13 жыл бұрын
Why do republicans whine about Mcnamara but not Kissinger?
@muskduh4 жыл бұрын
nobody likes Kissinger
@reubenboobinjewbin12 жыл бұрын
@solohoh I would say Gen Curtis LeMay had a much more instrumental role in the decision making leading up to, and the execution of the bombing campaign against Japan, especially the decision to use incendiary bombs on Tokyo.
@viktoriaironpride49773 жыл бұрын
Curtis LeMay was certifiably insane!
@frannyzooey1111 жыл бұрын
wow, you are so deep.
@brianw.5230 Жыл бұрын
What year was this filmed??
@sjkdec1814 жыл бұрын
@skuterixas91 I think you meant to say "why am I still talking to you?" What you wrote makes no sense.
@RusselBertrand15 жыл бұрын
most favored nation
@Climax200412 жыл бұрын
Final Fantasy music?
@MetalAaron14 жыл бұрын
that's some goddawful music right there
@StreetHierarchy3 жыл бұрын
You got no taste
@governator4515 жыл бұрын
Have you seen the fog of war?
@samfisher23066 жыл бұрын
governator45 best documentary I've ever seen
@flyhead215 жыл бұрын
Elementary, dear Watson. By reading.
@sleeplessintokyo15 жыл бұрын
rip
@whetedge11 жыл бұрын
McNamara should have resigned the moment he realized victory was not achievable militarily.
@brittonstokes5 жыл бұрын
We won militarily. We lost politically.
@chrisfi3d5 жыл бұрын
No, you lost both.
@cdr8615325 жыл бұрын
@@brittonstokes The only category that we won militarily was the body count. We could not hold territory.....the peasants were not switching sides to join us. The countryside was totally controlled by the VC and the NVA was able to move throughout S. Vietnam almost unnoticed (until they decided to attack). I don't like to admit it, because I love my country, but we lost in Vietnam. When our last Marine was flying off the roof of the embassy (because there was no other way out of the city), the VC and NVA were assaulting Saigon and had control of it before sunrise the next day.
@californiaslastgasp68472 жыл бұрын
Didn’t he?
@robertlytle5574 Жыл бұрын
@@cdr861532 Becuase of the way the war was fought, the American forces didn't hold territory. Look at Hamburger Hil. We lost a lot of men taking that hill but a few days after we won the battle we left, and ten days later the NVA moved right back in without firing a shot. USMC 1969-1971
@ellhow15 жыл бұрын
You have to think about the intentions, they were more than honourable.
@stephenarling16675 жыл бұрын
Road to Hell
@base994982 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately his plans are playing out today with help from both sides Meanwhile the 39th and 45th presidents were outsiders and less damaging yet 39th is labeled weak and 45th crazy
@shillyshallyz14 жыл бұрын
This conversation is a lot of blah blah about the degree of ignorance of the leaders in the murderous superpower which is still so completely and hopelessly ignorant today. Totally appalling. 31:40 onwards is interesting during 15 minutes.
@lawrencereichard1807 ай бұрын
They should call this conversations with a mass murderer. Or conversations from hell.
@robertmcnamara239711 жыл бұрын
Not really!
@Pimp-Master16 жыл бұрын
"The Soviet threat during the sixties was very real...we may have exaggerated it a bit, but it was real." Certainly the exaggeration was real!
@ansarmaskenov52842 жыл бұрын
If only McNamara knew that he will be remembered not as Vietnam war architect, but as a zombie killer...
@Xfrimz12 жыл бұрын
the only thing i knew about mcnamara was that he kicked ass on black ops zombies 'five'
@Clausewitz114 жыл бұрын
Unquestionably intellectually brilliant guy but who was nevertheless responsible for terrible atrocities and war crimes and should have been tried as war criminal.
@kendallandrews86915 жыл бұрын
lol, he actually prevented real war crimes. He was a dove compared to what the joint chiefs of staff wanted to do in Vietnam.
@MrSleeplessnights3 жыл бұрын
@@kendallandrews8691 what are you talking about!?! The only thing he didn't ok in Vietnam was the dropping of nukes. Everything else was fair game as far as he was concerned. Napalm, white phosphorus and agent orange (chemical warfare) were all approved by Macnamara.
@kendallandrews86913 жыл бұрын
@@MrSleeplessnights Nope. Mcnamara was bad and incompetent, but he wasn't nearly the hawk the Joint Chiefs of Staff were. He put limits on bombing North Vietnam. Had Curtis Lemay and Earle Wheeler had their way, Vietnam wouldn't exist. He absolutely was a check on the military leadership.
@MrSleeplessnights3 жыл бұрын
@@kendallandrews8691 do you know nothing? Vietnam basically didn't exist anymore. All 5 pillars or society were smashed to bits. Healthcare, transport, housing, education and means of food production absolutely lay waste. And when he saw that it would be even worse than WWII, he jumped ship. I'm not saying he is as cold as LeMay, but the outcome wasn't Mich different
@kendallandrews86913 жыл бұрын
@@MrSleeplessnights lol a lee duan apologist. Gross
@saxondog200114 жыл бұрын
@1337gam3r07 Some said that he was so smart that it was scary. Thanks.
@redgreen64363 жыл бұрын
He was an idiot.
@franklinchenfranklin48402 жыл бұрын
elliot richardson ,caspar weinberger,james schleisenger,thomas s gates
@kathleankeesler16398 жыл бұрын
The FOG of war
@RB94_4 жыл бұрын
Project 100,000... google it and find out what he done to the most vulnerable in society
@Rifqi146413 жыл бұрын
i know him from call of duty black ops
@jonburgett62433 жыл бұрын
Faith, is still necessary sometimes though for a fisher of men.
@brrrrr1213 жыл бұрын
A video that is an hour long? DF?
@maverickay58074 жыл бұрын
They are everywhere now
@andywerner8388 жыл бұрын
interesting. .sorry but I was born in 1971 ..
@famousgirl9x911 жыл бұрын
They should be whining about Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz.
@leecarney43732 ай бұрын
This looks like the early 80s and he mentions climate change, interesting the a guy who knows about and understands the car and petroleum industry was so far ahead of the curve Must have been one of the few people who read the report prepared for Carter on this issue
@Rocky-gs6mb3 жыл бұрын
Truly, a great man! May God bless his soul!
@jonburgett62433 жыл бұрын
Any more questions?
@robertlytle93873 жыл бұрын
Why doesn't someone ask him why his two sons never served. It was a war fought by the lower middle class boys from blue collar families, whites, blacks, and Latinos from the lower class, and the boys from the rural small towns and farms. The upper middle class boys and the upper class boys for the most part didn't serve and that was because their parents had money and connections to keep their sons from the war. USMC 1969-1971
@Packer12904 жыл бұрын
What the hell was Kennedy thinking hiring a Ford motor employee as Secretary of Defense? Why on earth did he think he was in any way qualified? The story goes.....McNamara told Kennedy that he didn't know anything about government, to which Kennedy replied: "We can learn our jobs together. I don't know how to be president either". Ugh!!! Really? McNamara gets way too much of a pass by history because of people’s affection for Kennedy imho.
@MetalAaron14 жыл бұрын
@nonplayerzealot4 It's all synth man. So 80's.
@bman_Bull2 жыл бұрын
“This missile crisis was the last straw”
@KingMinosxxvi13 жыл бұрын
i love rob mac
@samfisher23066 жыл бұрын
He was a smart man...imperfect but intelligent imo
@hwoods0114 жыл бұрын
Small minded people like mcnamara do not understand that a PUBLIC SERVICE job is meant to serve the best needs of the public.. When taking on the Sec of Def. position he used it to best suit himself and his wants/needs.. Hence his abismal failure.. Works in business, but not in public service..
@kendallandrews86915 жыл бұрын
He was more successful than whoever taught you English.
@markscarborough75803 жыл бұрын
And now public universities are prohibitively expensive. They want to be Harvard
@ianlarue20643 жыл бұрын
What would college students do if they were McNamara defense secretary
@mochopz12 жыл бұрын
it took me 7 minutes to understand the intellectual difference between these 2 men.
@colt466710 жыл бұрын
At 28:45 I think he should have said energy - not power. At the end of his administration a president should have a lot of power but he should have spent all his energy. Nothing more to offer.
@susansusan47703 жыл бұрын
APPARENTLY NOBODY CARED ENOUGH THEN AND NOBODY CARES NOW. MANY PROBLEMS THEN, SUCH AS POVERTY AND HOMELESSNESS, STILL EXIST NOW. EVERYBODY IS ALL TALK AND NO ACTION.
@straddlecakes3 жыл бұрын
24:23 yeah but "private sector counterparts" don't take away freedoms or due process from the populace like unelected bureaucrats do. While they get paid less, they certainly control the levers of government power which they abuse. You might say McNamara is a case-in-point. Throw the "money" argument around all you want, but big government honks like to forget about the whole power thing.
@graystone2313 жыл бұрын
@sluggo06 we get to c jesus???
@jonburgett62433 жыл бұрын
You were wrong about one thing, Robert, & that is it is perfect. It is the will of God. Everything that happens. One day, everyone must agree. Funny, because it's already perfect.
@jonburgett62433 жыл бұрын
I forgot to add, it's perfect for ME. Why? Because I am from God, not Satan. Once you accept Islam, everything becomes perfect.
@Xiledx13 жыл бұрын
I got here from call of duty black ops.
@sjkdec1814 жыл бұрын
@skuterixas91 because it's funny
@skybot99983 жыл бұрын
Smart guy but totally underestimated the north vietnamese.
@matthoskin35726 ай бұрын
War criminal, that got off scott free
@bjhaymond15 жыл бұрын
It is disappointing when the humanity of a person is lost. As can be seen in merisluts4lee's remark, his humanity has been replaced by hate. To attack by broad general comments is weak and lacking in depth and intellect.
@ddk802 жыл бұрын
Guy might have been a math and corporate genius, but his arrogance cost thousands of lives in Vietnam. Don’t even get me started on Operation Ranch Hand and the devastating effects it caused not only to civilians but also military personnel.