Conversations with History: Victor Davis Hanson

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University of California Television (UCTV)

University of California Television (UCTV)

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Conversations Host Harry Kreisler welcomes historian and classicist Victor Davis Hanson for a discussion of the Peloponnesian War and its lessons for today. He compares that conflict with the war in Iraq. He talks about imperial ambition, the conflict between civilizations, and military power as an instrument to achieve democratization in the struggle between modernity and tradition. Series: "Conversations with History" [6/2006] [Public Affairs] [Humanities] [Show ID: 11689]

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@johnadams5489
@johnadams5489 4 жыл бұрын
Victor is one of the few people on the planet that understands the big picture. He is the best at communicating what he knows to the masses. Great interview.
@davetmcguire
@davetmcguire 5 жыл бұрын
I've been trying to carefully listen to every presentation by Dr. Hanson at least 5 times. no other person on this planet has compelled me so. Maybe it's because of his farming background and deep roots in classical history that makes his words ring so true.
@rippedlikrambo1
@rippedlikrambo1 4 жыл бұрын
same
@brianmoran1196
@brianmoran1196 4 жыл бұрын
#me too
@ppumpkin3282
@ppumpkin3282 4 жыл бұрын
He has a clear way of speaking that is a joy to listen to.
@sheilabright2091
@sheilabright2091 3 жыл бұрын
I began with Jordan Peterson. Worked my way through a Thomas Sowell, Milton Friedman, Larry Elder, Walter E Williams, (many others along these lines) and now VDH. What a wealth of intellects I’d never known until recent 2 years or so!
@immaculatesquid
@immaculatesquid 3 жыл бұрын
Sheila Bright Jordan Peterson serves to provide nuance, no matter how ideological you are, he will crack it in some subtle way. That's why the leftists prefer to scream at him rather than learn something, their whole worldview may collapse.
@Frankcastle522
@Frankcastle522 14 жыл бұрын
I love this guy, he is amazing.
@lesblodgett161
@lesblodgett161 Жыл бұрын
B
@tannykeeler9728
@tannykeeler9728 4 жыл бұрын
VIctor Davis Hanson is a man like no other. On the national scene he is without peer.
@lieshtmeiser5542
@lieshtmeiser5542 6 жыл бұрын
I do enjoy Hanson, he has deep knowledge of these subjects and makes very convincing arguments for his ideas and suggestions.
@tkw79
@tkw79 3 жыл бұрын
As a history buff I truly enjoy listening to this man.
@hicaleb
@hicaleb 13 жыл бұрын
pure logic and seemingly pure objectivity.... what an amazing historian
@cliffdariff74
@cliffdariff74 5 жыл бұрын
VDH is always awesome...war will never go away. There will be a need to defeat the corrupt, and the bad players.
@Leknifrog
@Leknifrog 13 жыл бұрын
i love this guy's voice. he always sounds so bored, which makes it soothing.
@fernandojpalomo5575
@fernandojpalomo5575 3 жыл бұрын
It’s called ‘wisdom’,. Honey
@davidmiska
@davidmiska 2 жыл бұрын
@@fernandojpalomo5575 nah, he's just physicaly exhausted from plowing the rough terrain of central California
@MadMax31577
@MadMax31577 13 жыл бұрын
VDH is a true renaissance man.
@janetmarmaro8269
@janetmarmaro8269 Жыл бұрын
THE BEST OF THE BEST.
@susanarsoniadou3588
@susanarsoniadou3588 3 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons his thinking is so profound is that he asks the right questions...
@thefreedomlass
@thefreedomlass 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like it all has come to pass as they write this today. God Bless You VDH!
@19553129
@19553129 11 жыл бұрын
Very Informative,Thank-you , Mr. Hanson.
@oldsalt8011
@oldsalt8011 8 ай бұрын
Happy 70th Birthday Victor 🎉.
@7beers
@7beers 13 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful video.
@kevinlee3487
@kevinlee3487 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you VDH! Please explain to everyone how legalizing one plant will help 7.5 billion poor people eliminate hunger, homelessness, alcoholism, drug addiction, etc,etc. U.S. savings of 5 Trillion annually!
@howardjohnson2138
@howardjohnson2138 4 жыл бұрын
Curtis LeMay said - If you kill enough of them, they stop fighting. I totally agree with that.
@12AX74Life
@12AX74Life 14 жыл бұрын
@BarFlySupreme I'll bet he was! Victor Davis Hanson got me interested in Greek classic literature, and was partially responsible for making me want to back to school for History. I love this guy.
@Moishe3rd
@Moishe3rd 3 жыл бұрын
VDH is my hero. He is always prescient about the present - based on history. And his speculations on the future are always, always wrong. The Great Arab Muslim Sectarian Civil War has been ongoing for the last one hundred years. It is not "Modern Arab or Muslim" vs 8th Century Fanatics. It is about family; tribe; clan; religious sect; military hegemony; dictator; kingdom; country VS every other faction. It will never end until complete destruction is achieved.
@lowrydan111
@lowrydan111 Жыл бұрын
Wrong. He claims that human nature does not change, which is correct
@JaimKlein
@JaimKlein 6 жыл бұрын
"Democracies do not attack democracies, they attack all others..."
@alanaadams7440
@alanaadams7440 4 жыл бұрын
War is hell, if it were not, we would grow too fond of it. Robert E Lee
@luizaugustocarvalho3612
@luizaugustocarvalho3612 9 жыл бұрын
Yes the human nature is the same, only the tools changed....
@msomayya2828
@msomayya2828 3 жыл бұрын
i have all your books
@robercoto6316
@robercoto6316 4 жыл бұрын
Great, teaching
@rexboyles1529
@rexboyles1529 2 жыл бұрын
Listen to this man!
@JaimKlein
@JaimKlein 6 жыл бұрын
"Other wars to come..."
@torceridaho
@torceridaho 8 ай бұрын
wouldn't it be great to have VDH in 2023 review and discuss his ideas, thoughts, and opinions presented here...
@donrha
@donrha 5 ай бұрын
We never had a clear mission and so as powerful as we were... we were never going to win.
@benjaminwillitts7381
@benjaminwillitts7381 3 жыл бұрын
PLEASE LISTEN, LEARN,& ENJOY
@shailesh417
@shailesh417 7 жыл бұрын
brilliant
@Frankcastle522
@Frankcastle522 13 жыл бұрын
@TheGreekoid He discussed how the eastern military failed to establish any real long lasting dominion over Europe. The mongols did a lot but they did not last in Europe to long. I believe your point though as I feel the ottoman empire should have been addressed for its rule over Spain and the Balkans for so long.
@mickfinnegan
@mickfinnegan Жыл бұрын
I like to view others in their natural habitat. Sad to write that humans today really aren't that much different than those of the past, except for the earlier stages who were a little more brutal, and yes, even today. I have to ask, how far are we to go with this until we come full turn? Have we not learned the lessons or do we continue living in a false impression while the rich, including criminals in all walks of life, skate through life if they are lucky.
@matshagglund3550
@matshagglund3550 8 жыл бұрын
Both Soviet Union and Nazi Germany lost WW2. But actually so happened to British Empire too. But the beginning of end for British Empire started already in 1917. Europeans lost the war but partly won the peace. But as we see now there will never in next coming 300 years be European global dominance. That era was over in 1945.
@susanarsoniadou3588
@susanarsoniadou3588 3 жыл бұрын
What about the Yalta Conference?
@littlepickle824
@littlepickle824 2 жыл бұрын
i was born and now i am at war ty vdh
@kruddykuffar
@kruddykuffar 14 жыл бұрын
I don't remember now, and I don't want to watch the video again.
@MadMax31577
@MadMax31577 13 жыл бұрын
@grterew back at you.
@aon10003
@aon10003 9 жыл бұрын
A speak passed by history.
@cleverandruthless
@cleverandruthless 14 жыл бұрын
You had to read Carnage and Culture in EIGHTH GRADE? Your state has an amazing education system, even though you must be bored to tears by it.
@haroldnaples
@haroldnaples 4 жыл бұрын
"Carnage and Culture" is rubbish. It's full of wishful/fanciful thinking the likes of Hollywood or Nazi historical narrative. It can only teach kids to make mental errors, because they feel right.
@Mordacc
@Mordacc 13 жыл бұрын
I just watch this for the intro music.
@errolkim1334
@errolkim1334 4 жыл бұрын
Pop acid. Listen to the theme music.
@errolkim1334
@errolkim1334 5 жыл бұрын
26 jiahdis watched this.
@jamiehess4211
@jamiehess4211 3 жыл бұрын
If Spock was a military historian....
@msomayya2828
@msomayya2828 3 жыл бұрын
sir you have not spoken about Epamiondas
@JaimKlein
@JaimKlein Жыл бұрын
I have his book on Sparta. The best.
@gv1955
@gv1955 15 жыл бұрын
Ahhh sounds a bit like of star treck.
@70galaxie
@70galaxie 3 жыл бұрын
imagine, if you will a 19ton "bomb proof" vehicle w/ 4 drone operators, annihilating weapons only, like a star trek story
@UncleSam13
@UncleSam13 16 жыл бұрын
Yeah, but Hanson showed that that only happened only once due to Epaminondas.
@necrotyk1985
@necrotyk1985 10 жыл бұрын
"There were no arms of massive destruction in Irak" Really that would be news to the kurds that died in the Halabja gas attack. And in 2000 it would have been news to ALL the intelligence agencies wold wide that believed he did and furthermore had had good reasons to do so. " talibans in Irak" Nope, but al-quade in Irak? Yep. Anywhere from 50 k to 80 k Terrorists died in Iraq. rather then blowing themselves up in London or Rome or New York. A win in my opinion.
@kruddykuffar
@kruddykuffar 14 жыл бұрын
@yadreamin251 You don't get my sense of humor.
@howardjohnson2138
@howardjohnson2138 4 жыл бұрын
As mohammidan women finally realize through cell phones and TV dishes they are equal to men, mohammidism is going to lose.
@jamesdorpinghaus3294
@jamesdorpinghaus3294 3 жыл бұрын
This is an old video
@tchuncly
@tchuncly 11 жыл бұрын
Hanson his brilliant when he understands Greek history as a result of constantly conflicting class interests, e.g. the rise of the polis as a result of the rise of a farmer class of hoplites who started to demand more political rights. But then he fails miserably when completely (and probably purposefully) forgets about all this as he analyzes contemporary history, talking about "wars being stopped by democracies", etc.
@bruwin4880
@bruwin4880 5 жыл бұрын
tchuncly Before you criticise someone of the stature of Hanson, you may want to brush up on your spelling
@jaestclair5209
@jaestclair5209 5 жыл бұрын
why not mention Saudi Arabia
@craigwall9536
@craigwall9536 4 жыл бұрын
Because that would make you happy and we can't have _that_ ...
@knotkool1
@knotkool1 4 жыл бұрын
i enjoy and learn, willing, from Victor Davis Hanson. but no one is perfect. his admiration for reagan is unfounded imho. reagan signed into law the most blatantly infringing gun control we have ever seen. the firearms owners protection act should never have seen the light of day. whether he was duped, senile or malicious, he was culpable and he should not have signed that misnamed pos into law. on a side note charly wrangle should be imprisoned for his role in that debacle.
@stavrospipis
@stavrospipis 16 жыл бұрын
i disagree! Athens strategy was not to tie! It was to get the allies of Sparta away from her, and to get the Messenian Helots to revolt, which would bring the Spartan Collapse from within!
@Facade19
@Facade19 11 жыл бұрын
What then is human nature?
@Dude0000
@Dude0000 5 жыл бұрын
Facade19 tribal...
@adammiller3609
@adammiller3609 4 жыл бұрын
Mr. Hanson's has a deep understanding of traditional military / geopolitical theory. His views are usually well argued, logical, certainly worth considering. However, after watching this video twice I have a critique. (Yay me) As to uderstanding the modern war on terrorism, or accounting for the 20th century brand of U.S./western expansionism I suggest that Mr. Hanson's understanding is lacking, or he is deliberately advancing a perspective of some kind based on an agenda. To discuss modern western policy or warfare in Iraq/ the middle east, and not mention the roles of U.S./U.K./Israeli intelligence agencies is not good history in my opinion. This was recorded around 2006 so perhaps he should largely be given a pass as so much has become known since then
@ferrantepallas
@ferrantepallas 5 жыл бұрын
Invading Iraq was a war crime. How this scholar can speak so dispassionately about murder is beyond belief.
@lowrydan111
@lowrydan111 Жыл бұрын
Yes, saddam was a great man 😂
@ferrantepallas
@ferrantepallas Жыл бұрын
@@lowrydan111 no, he wasn't as we both know, but the invasion was an act of criminality, utterly lawless
@hotstixx
@hotstixx 12 жыл бұрын
"the bard of boobosie".
@EasyEs
@EasyEs 15 жыл бұрын
I would take a step back and look at the state of other Nations right now. China Russia and Western Europe are suffering worse then the USA right now. This financial collapse would have happen if we never invaded Iraq. The lone difference is that there would be more money to dump into bailouts and their questionable worth. Again this assumes that Saddam would have played nice, I don't think that is a reasonable assumption.
@TPQ1980
@TPQ1980 Жыл бұрын
Hanson has a liberal perspective here. He's correct in many instances, but his perspective is very academic and couched in affluent liberalism; he's almost naïve about Iraq war 2 and the actions of the West in the middle east regarding the motivations of Western elites in puppeteering Western politics towards technocratic-neoglobalism.
@MurrayEstes
@MurrayEstes 7 жыл бұрын
if the Middle East sold broccoli we would not give a s*** God bless their oil for the spoiled Americans
@Dude0000
@Dude0000 5 жыл бұрын
Spartan-Surfer USA is the biggest producer per day today, also American companies didn’t get any contracts (or few) from Iraq oil fields. So what’s the next theory?
@hey_joe7069
@hey_joe7069 5 жыл бұрын
@@Dude0000 He was eating a tide pod when he posted that.
@lowrydan111
@lowrydan111 Жыл бұрын
I guess you do not use energy in your tech-heavy western therapeutic life
@howardjohnson2138
@howardjohnson2138 4 жыл бұрын
What I saw in iraq was that there always a corruption in the units where the footsoldier had to pay a bribe to his commander everytime he was paid.
@howardjohnson2138
@howardjohnson2138 4 жыл бұрын
On my way to a year in the Triangle of Death I read a state department book on iran. I realized then that this was all about The Last Man Standing. mohammidism v Civilization. There is no inbetween. mohammidism is like the fake church of salt lake city in that because mohammid said it, that's the way it is and it cannot be change. Fake church is the same, if joe smitt said it, it cannot be changed.
@micu1544
@micu1544 2 жыл бұрын
It always amuses me that a certain type of American likes to see themselves as the continuation of the Greeks and Romans. Ye. You came from Europe. We have a cultural identity forged over 1600 years since Rome fell. Americans don't have a historical identity that goes beyond the late 18th century. Its lol. (laugh out loud)
@micu1544
@micu1544 Жыл бұрын
@@Kimian111 they've not been around long enough
@raymondparnell8008
@raymondparnell8008 3 жыл бұрын
WHAT DO YOU THINK OF CONSCRIPTION ? ME I DONT LIKE IT BECAUSE IT CAN ONLY PROLONG THE LIVES OF UNFAIR GOVERNMENT . IF THE MORALE IS RIGHT THE FIGHT IS JUST N NECESSARY THEN WE WIL VOLUNTEER HAPPILY WITH PRIDE N HONOUR ... ITS IMPORTANT TO HAVE IF YOU WANT TO WIN NOT JUST ENGAGE AN ENEMY ? WHAT DO YOU THINK ? AUSTRALIAN
@tontineses
@tontineses 11 жыл бұрын
what about 100.000 people from Irak killed during the war? Victor did not say anything. He did not see the dead visiting Irak
@rezzob
@rezzob 2 жыл бұрын
Dr Hansen speaks well, however I’m not sure if he goes back and revisits his predictions all that often. US did not withdrew 2006, and when did (well depending on how you count, still hasn’t) ISIS took hold and US was back at it again. the problem with US’s approach be it in Iraq or Afghanistan is to try turn things around by a top-down strategy. instead what should’ve been done is something more like Germany after WWII. need to be from ground up. think changing education system etc
@willmpet
@willmpet 8 жыл бұрын
I wanted to hear what Hanson had to say about the Peloponnesian war war, not a bunch of discussion over the Iraq war. I am disappointed in Dr. Hanson and in the ideas discussed. The Iraq war by this date has been considered an expensive (in lives and money) and failed attempt by the U.S. To show its might - it has done otherwise, much like the failed mission to Italy by the Athenians.
@Kalliope2001
@Kalliope2001 7 жыл бұрын
Ι΄m also disappointed with the way that dr Hanson analyse the Iraqi war. He idealize an invasion, using as argument the intention of the «democratic» USA to save the Iraqis from a dictator… I expected an interesting discussion about the Peloponnesian war and I lost my time listening to Bush, through Dr. Hanson. Ἀπογοητευτικότατη ἡ προσέγγισι τοῦ δόκτωρος Χάνσον σχετικῶς μὲ τὴν εἰσβολὴ τῶν Η.Π.Α. στὸ Ἰράκ. Ἡ δὲ συσχέτιση στὴν ἀρχὴ τῆς ὁμιλίας μὲ τὸν Πελοποννησιακὸ Πόλεμο εἶναι ἄστοχη, διότι αὐτὸς ἦταν ἐμφύλιος.
@garbonomics
@garbonomics 6 жыл бұрын
William Peterson don’t forget. This interview is from 2006, a full decade plus ago. The ramifications of the Iraq war was not yet fully known. Or at least it’s was not as clear as it is for us today. Also MR Hanson did a fine job promoting his book on the Peloponnesian war in other interviews and discussions. This discussion was frankly the fault of the interviewer who lost sight of the purpose for the interview, which was his new book.
@99gypsies
@99gypsies 5 жыл бұрын
@@garbonomics No excuse -- I knew (as did anyone who did a few hours of research) in 2006, and before we ever invaded Iraq, that Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. Iraq was not Fundamentalist; did not have Sharia Law; was not even anti-American. Regardless of the fact that Sadam was a fascist thug - he was a secular thug -- and Iraq was a modern Middle Eastern country, like Syria -- they had liquor stores, women had equal rights -- women were attending universities and working as doctors, etc., and all religions were permitted. I know Iraqis. There was no Taliban in Iraq. AFTER we invaded Iraq and destroyed the country, of course, terrorism mushroomed and Fundamentalist Islam sprang up in response to our total destruction of their country. I am completely opposed to Sharia law and fundamentalist Islam, but Iraq WAS not our enemy and what we did there was pure evil. Of course it was about oi, the trillions made by corporate war-racketeers, and our plan to destroy the Middle East. If we wanted a religious war against fundamentalist Islam, we would have invaded Saudi Arabia, not Iraq. There were Saudis on the planes on 9/11 -- no Iraqis and no Afghanis. I was a fan of Hanson's -- but I am shocked at his bizarre and misinformed view of the Iraq invasion and occupation.
@kruddykuffar
@kruddykuffar 14 жыл бұрын
What a pack of fatuous lies! It's not the lies that I find so offensive so much as it is their fatuousness.
@johnfleming7879
@johnfleming7879 3 жыл бұрын
so much of what he says is missing in leadership is what Trump offers
@sophiashakti5638
@sophiashakti5638 4 жыл бұрын
The western culture also comes with the alphabet soup, excess of materialism and these qualities turn traditional people away.
@dindu551
@dindu551 6 күн бұрын
this guy couldn't have been more wrong on Iraq. even on the details as it unfolded he was wrong at every turn
@tontineses
@tontineses 10 жыл бұрын
50 or 80 terrorist died in Irak and 500000 iraquíes also, don´t forget it
@cliffdariff74
@cliffdariff74 5 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately the Iraqis fought amongst each other, soon after they were given a once in lifetime chance to work together, create a democratic state. Instead they killed, murdered and took revenge after Saddam was deposed.
@jaestclair5209
@jaestclair5209 5 жыл бұрын
Lobbyist for western culture -
@lowrydan111
@lowrydan111 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Thank God
@haroldnaples
@haroldnaples 4 жыл бұрын
Must be nice to be always wrong and yet get medals for it. Nice for him, not so much for the rest of us. He is far more subtle than creationists, yet in the same game of passing his inane opinions as supposedly plausible theories, and these as established fact. There are too many shysters like him in academia, relying on undue politeness and deference, getting away with it, all the way to the top. For shame.
@lowrydan111
@lowrydan111 Жыл бұрын
Harry, please share some evidence with your claims
@tontineses
@tontineses 11 жыл бұрын
There were no arms of massive destruction in Irak, and there were no talibans in Irak with Sadam. Victor Davis Hanson says nothing about IT. What is very important in this área is OIL, FOR SURE
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