Thanks! Glad you liked it.

@@lukeFugate When society collapses, we will elect you as our new leader

Thanks! I do appreciate that!

That's pretty cool. He is getting free charging and a free workout, genius.

The alternator in a car uses electricity to energize a coil inside the rotor. If it is on a car engine which spins it really fast and has plenty of torque it will have no problem generating more power than it uses. Also with the weaker electromagnet, it has to spin pretty fast to just start charging, about 2500 rpm. With the stronger neodymium magnets and doubling the number of magnets(which I did when I changed out the round magnets to the square)it only has to spin about 500 rpm to start making power. It is also a lot more efficient because it doesn't use power to make the electromagnet. The factory car alternator also produces dc current from the output which experiences heavy losses over a relatively short distance. With a pma, the ac output on the three wires can travel a lot farther without so much loss of power.

Yeah, I want to see it work too. I am back to work now so my time for projects is limited.

Yeah, the 67 is almost the same truck just no marker lights and a smaller back window.

I know that but mine was the shortbed in powder blue. OLE BLUE

@@Swampyankeehomestead That's a good color on these trucks.

Yes, that would work. It just wouldn't give quite the efficiency as the neodymium magnets. You can get round neodymium magnets perfect for this online though.

Thanks! I'm having fun making them.

Thanks. After a car is started and running the alternator field would stay self energized even without the battery. For example I have had a dead battery in my truck before and no one had booster cables. I swapped a good battery from a friends car into mine, started mine up and then took their battery out with the engine still running and put my dead one back in. I don't think it is a good idea with newer cars to do that because you could get a voltage spike and mess up the ECM but for my old truck it didn't hurt anything. In the case of using an alternator in this configuration the field windings put a load on the alternator and it takes some power to keep it moving. It doesn't matter with a gasoline engine, but with a water generator you need all the efficiency you can get.

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I had to try to get it right. Ol' Green was supervising.

Yeah..U did an Awesome Restoration Job with Ol’ Green‼️ I was admiring that Beauty 🥰😍🥰‼️

Thanks!

Thanks, it is a third-generation truck. Fourth-generation if you count my son. It is a 68.

mrromantimothy , mine is a 68 with the 307 , the 307 is a 283 block with a 327 crank , mine has the 4 speed on the floor and is 3/4 ton with 8 Lug rims

@@jimthomas777 my dad's was 68 1/2 ton the 307 that year was known as a smog motor it had a small Journal crankshaft not to be confused with the one you're referring to that was large Journal 307 a badass motor they sold them for marine applications for a long time after 73

mrromantimothy , I have a 67 K-20 also , it has no side marker lights and small rear window , it came with the 292 straight six , 4 speed standard trans , Rockwell transfer case with P.T.O., 8 Lugs with 4:56 gears , Warn lockinghubs , 16.5 rims with 33 inch superswampers , 4X4 , flat bed 1/4 inch steel plate , , unfortunately the 292 straight six over heated and cracked the block , I replaced it with a small block 350 Chevy engine , it will haul just about anything , I came off the weight scales at 10,500Lbs that's over 5 tons and hauled it no problem

Yes you will want to run the AC the long distance then have the DC run as short as possible to prevent voltage drop. My batteries are in 12volt parellel.

No problem

Good point. The alternator is designed for higher RPM. More wraps of wire in the coils would be better.

A scooter stator and rotor would work? For low rpm charging?

Or could I gear a generator head to the water wheel?

Thanks!

@@lukeFugate yeah. Nice '68

Exactly!

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Glad you liked it. Not a whole lot of negative. Some people have opinions or advice, but most are nice about it.

Thank you!

On the water turbine system I have it on I get around 20-25 volts and only about a max of 50 watts.

Thanks. I'll have to look for some.

Thanks for the tip.

Yes! I've been watching a lot of Red Green lately. I plan to use a solar charge controller to regulate the power going to the batteries.

Hopefully that makes it into a video as well then !

Thanks for the tip!

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You could use an old bicycle to power the alternator. people have actually done that without modifying the alternator. Here is a video showing someone who built one with a stock delco alternator. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/obxxjax1q7O2iI0.html If you want to put magnets in an alternator you have to grind down the fingers for clearance.

I'm not sure if it will produce the same. It's a 105 amp alternator so I know the windings can handle it.

@@lukeFugatethat actually answers my question. Thank you once again.

I believe it would only produce the same current it's rated at if the magnets he added produced the same strength magnetic field that the original rotor coil produced at full power input (no regulation) and if the same size air gap between the rotor and stator was maintained.

I personally believe it will impact the output quite drastically as there is no hobby method precise enough to make alterations to the factory design so that the magnets would be so exact as to be required for secure and exact output. See my other comment above on the actual proper way to do this without grinding away material that is supposed to be there. Where the suggested grinding would take place is in fact what produces the magnetic field if used correctly without destructive techniques.

Yes, one with north up then the next with south up. Yes, the magnets will have poles on the ends too but as long as the ones facing up alternate it should work.

Santa1 , you can buy a magnet (PMA ) rotor from Missouri wind and solar and they work great , I got 4 of them , That's MWandS .com , they can be used for , wind turbine , water wheels , or even hooked up to a small gas weedeater or chainsaw engine to produce power

The three wires from the alternator go to the three same connections they used to on the rectifier. The positive comes from the bolt on the rectifier and the negative comes from the chassis.

Thanks!

Glad you enjoyed it!

Here are the ones I used. I had to break them in half, but they worked.

You lose a lot of efficiency by energizing the field. You automatically lose 40 watts of power to run the field coil. The PMA doesn't require any power to generate electricity. With a car engine you have plenty of extra torque to waste so it doesn't matter if it takes some of the power to make up for the field draw. In a lower torque application like a wind generator or water wheel, you don't have the power to spare to make up for the 40 watts required to energize the field. For example my water turbine produces about 50 watts of power. If I had to use some of that to energize the field, I would only be getting about 10 watts out of it. Also a standard car alternator doesn't produce any power until about 2000 to 2500 rpm. With the permanent magnets the rpms are closer to 1000 to start producing power. If you had a high torque/high speed application where the 40 watt loss would be negligible then the automatic voltage regulation of the alternator would be great to use. It just depends on the application.

The three wires coming out of the alternator are three hots. It is three phase AC power. You need a rectifier to smooth it out and make steady DC voltage. If you have something powerful enough to drive it, like a gas engine, some alternators put out over 150 amps. If it is going to be powered by a gas engine you would want to leave the alternator intact and run it the way it would have been under the hood.

@@lukeFugate do you know how to power a 220v outlet with the 3 phase? I have 3 hot wires; I will ground the alternator and outlet. What about the neutral? Would I just use 2 hot legs on the outlet instead of a neutral? Thanks for any help. Im searching everywhere for this answer.

@@jamesbrady1959 it depends on what you are trying to power. If it is just lights, then it would be fine to run from the "wild" AC coming from two of the wires from the alternator. If you wanted to run electronics or electric motors you would need to get the correct frequency and voltage to match up at a certain engine speed.

Not sure if the speed will match up with the frequency. Generator sets are designed to produce 220 volts or 110 volts at 60 hz with the engine running at 3600 rpm. Alternators are not designed that way. They are made to run at varying speeds and put out steady DC volts.

A solar charge controller would work for this. The alternator would eventually overcharge the battery without it.

@@lukeFugate thank you for replaying I have some of my own experiments but dont know how to prevent damage on my alternators. Once I tried plazma ignition I used hv ceramic capacitors my starting charge got swaped from 1200rpm to 2500rpm so I was wondering if there is some circuet protection for external magnetic fields? Aperantly centrain capacitor values changes alternator out put. So I was wondering If I culd use that thing at low rpm generator then swap at centrain speed to brushless motor so Im not shure can speed controler and bridge rectifier co exist in a circuet ore not? I tought useing some thing sinilar to speed based oscilator circuet so Im not shure how wuld turn out? And I was curiuse what wuld hapen if you use external stator windings with that alternator wuld some sort of transformer action acure ? And for exampel if you ceap magnets and field wires with brushes wuld that not cancel the magnetic fiel out ore make it even stronger? I never tryed it before I cinde of broke my alternator for nothing culd not remove those shaft with out a press 😅 fully functional alternator turned to trash 😓 so got my curiuse there what I can do with that thing . I hade some of my own odd ideas what to do with that thing . Perhaps use even some sort of magnetic breaking circuet so I have cinde of safty breaks wheen my normal brakes fail in my car I wuld like to have a back up safty device some sort of.

It is an alternator from a chevrolet car. I think from a Lumina in this case.

@@lukeFugate thanks buddy! Enjoy your laid back info. Thanks!

Yeah, the shaft is messed up. It couldn't ever be put back together as a regular alternator. It's ok for this application though. A PMA is a permanent magnet alternator. A regular car alternator uses 12 volts from the battery to activate a coil of wire inside the rotor creating an electromagnet. This alternator with the permanent magnets inside doesn't need to have power applied and is more efficient.

Thanks

The voltage regulation is done by varying the field voltage. After installing the magnets, the voltage is changed with the speed of the shaft.

Thanks! My dad was one of the best electricians in the area and I learned a lot from him. The rest I learned from electronics school in the Army.

That’s great! I still love your thermostat that you hooked up to the car.

No, it would have to be ran through a rectifier and a charge controller.

I'll be showing a couple more ways to build a generator I'll have some rectangle magnets soon.

Good idea.

The light I was using runs on 120 volts and the alternator in this configuration puts out from 10 to 15 volts. I also wanted to show that with a standard inverter you can run household appliances from this system. True a light would burn on ac or dc, but other things need 120 volts ac at 60 hz.

@@lukeFugate thanks for the info. I was asking a question for more knowledge,not to DOUBT your work!! Thank for getting back to me. Would it work the same using 6 mag. Instead of 12?? I know very little about electric but am very interested and thankful for your help. # why buy when you can have the excitement of the build

@@g-rock6329 It would still work with 6 but would have to spin much faster.

@@lukeFugate thanks sooooooo much for the great info. Wish me luck!!

@@g-rock6329 good luck.

The round magnets aren't the best setup, but it works.

The three wires from the stator go to the same wires on the rectifier they came off of. The + post is still the same one. You no longer have to hook up the field to anything.

It depends on what is wrong with it. If the coils are still good it would work fine, you may have to get another regulator.

Right!

Yeah, that's it, thanks! By the way, I like your user name.

luke Fugate thanks mate it’s common in Australia to use a persons surname or an abbreviation of it we also affectionately calls friends cunts ?? Go figure lol 😂 it’s an Aussie thing Cheers Brent “Beshy” Behsmann Ps it’s not a typo it’s how it’s spelled

There are only three wires coming out of the alternator. They hook up to the rectifier on the three terminals that are sticking out on the side of it. It doesn't matter what order you put them in.

I built a water turbine generator using this same one. It worked ok and provided power to my cabin for a few years. It probably still would, but the lines got clogged up and I haven't had time to fool with it lately.

lol

Exactly!

Doesn't matter which you start with as long as every other one is turned opposite like N-S-N-S and so on.

Hope you don't mind but i just have 1 more question: what thickness where the magnets in this video? Have a Nice day sir :)

@@cvdk7194 I think they were quarter inch magnets.

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They came from Amazon. They have all kinds of shapes of neodymium magnets on there. Rectangle magnets would be perfect for this.

Yes, it would work to light the bulb like that. I wanted to show that it produced usable A/C power.

At higher speed it can develop a shake as it is almost impossible to get it balanced perfectly. Although they are more expensive, a factory made PMA is better. It was fun to build this and it did work for low speed applications.

Right!

That might be something to look into, not sure if the magnetic field would be as strong as the neodymium magnets though.

That's the problem with royalty free music, anyone can use it. I have seen several channels use that music.

You should watch a episode or two of his show. Richard gene the fishing machine.

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lol. I'll try. My luck, I'll be the first one turned into a zombie.

@@lukeFugate Hahahaha

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Pulse Modulated Alternator?

It's a permanent magnet alternator. It uses permanent magnets instead of an electromagnet to produce electricity more efficiently.

Yes you did lol.

@@lukeFugate Same intro music as off the ranch.

@@ddd228 lol yeah, that's what happens when you use royalty free music. I've heard it on several people's videos.

True, if so the video would have been a lot funnier and it would have blown up on me at the end lol.

no, why? Admittedly a store bought PMA is much more efficient but this works.