I heard of guys ending up in the ER because of boiling live rock on the stove. Great video Marc! Leave it to you to cover a topic no one has, here on KZfaq.
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
I wondered if anyone did it yet, but I didn't actually check.
@HWolfe5 жыл бұрын
I lived in Florida and was by the seashore(not swimming of course) when it literally hit me..the 'it' being the air from Red Tide...the 'hit' a bad reaction...omgosh😣 I was a hot mess. Didn't wind up in the hospital but I was miserable for the rest of the night. I am glad this video was made by you. The sea has wonders but it doesn't play. Tfs!
@feedthatreefaddiction15087 жыл бұрын
Wonder how many people will stumble on this bc they want to 'cook rock' lol
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
+FeedThatReefAddiction lol
@bfbaquaculture7 жыл бұрын
hehe
@guser4365 жыл бұрын
well it happened im here i was looking for a video on cooking pyura chilensis but i guess this was interesting content too
@Justthemow5 жыл бұрын
Red and black phosphorus petroleum either Pseudoephedrine
@lootznbootz45884 жыл бұрын
I laughed every time I heard him say "cooking live rock" because of this comment 😂
@Mindboggle1007 жыл бұрын
Mel, very clear explanation of a confusing term! Thanks for taking the time to put this video together :-) It really helps when people like yourself go the extra mile, to help others... I appreciate it & have learn't the basics of reefing through KZfaq.
@dinglehammer7 жыл бұрын
Glad you made this video. palytoxin and maitotoxin are not things you want to expose yourself to, and boiling rock is a good way to potentially expose EVERYONE in your house to such compounds, pets included.
@gerrytrottier70987 жыл бұрын
Hey Marc. I had four knee operations so I couldn't take care of my tank for over 18 months. Nitrates and phosphates were through the roof and I had turf algae everywhere. I cooked 125 pounds in a garbage can for five months before I was satisfied. I swished each rock 30-40 times in three buckets each before putting them in a dark can. I tested NO3 and PO4 regularly. Once I was happy I did not want to go through that again with the next 125 pounds, so I bleached the second half of my rock. The process worked but my situation was extreme. Great video. This process works.
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
That was a lot of work indeed. How's your knee now?
@gerrytrottier70987 жыл бұрын
Both knees are 85-90% better. I am ecstatic with my recovery. Thanks for asking. I am a big fan. Keep up the good work.
@ReefSpy7 жыл бұрын
Every time I watch one of you videos I feel I learn something new. Thank you and keep up the good work!
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
I'm glad for that. I always hope to include some small snippet that makes the viewing beneficial even to someone that has been in the hobby for quite some time.
@RogueAquariums7 жыл бұрын
Great how video Marc on how to preserve and keep your rock clean and cycle it in case you want to use it again.
@dusk19474 жыл бұрын
I just started getting my first Salt Water tank together and am so excited that I have my first pieces of live rock curing in the tank while I continue to build the sump and save for the lights. Unfortunately, I spent the three days following my purchase spending time identifying all the fun things coming out of it: Feather dusters, Aiptasia, and Asterina starfish.... Great start! Thank you for the excellent video. I'm gona go cook it
@NanoJoe7 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very quick to the point and still informal and practical.
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
Got it done in less than 30 minutes (of me talking) for once. lol
@NanoJoe7 жыл бұрын
melevsreef hell yeah! *high five*
@andywoolloo7 жыл бұрын
So glad you made this video! From reading forums people really do think cooking is boiling
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
Now you can share this video in any of those threads. :)
@00Mass006 жыл бұрын
I wanted to confirm the part that you DO NOT want to boil or put a rock with Zoa's or Palythoa's in RO water. I know a guy who almost died from that (hospitalized at intensive care) , together with his son and even his dog.. Palytoxin is no joke. Personally I would never boil rocks, Just buy dry rock.
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
Correct, don't boil it. Don't even scrub the rock indoors where your air is limited - you want lots of fresh air for a project like that.
@00Mass006 жыл бұрын
melevsreef Great video by the way!
@BearNecessitiesOfLife6 жыл бұрын
I didn't know when I was going to get my 125 build - I got rock close to a year ago, it's been in a 40 gallon brute trash can with a power head and heater. I made some salt water and have topped it off every so often. I am planning on testing my water but I haven't seen any aptasia on it in the past month or so. The water looks crystal clear and I don't see any signs of life in there so im curious how the water parameters are. I got this from some random person on CL who used it in his tank. I am glad I went this route though and didn't use acid or anything else. Was simple and easy and worked out great for me who needed time to work on getting everything ready for the 125.
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
You did exactly the right thing, and you're good to go. :)
@PSCThrillSeeker7 жыл бұрын
Great video Marc, on how to clean and cycle live rock. Best always!
@TheReefingWulf7 жыл бұрын
Extremely informative! Keep up with the great videos! Loved the blooper LOL!!
@SharbucklesReef7 жыл бұрын
Great information Mark. Ive "cooked" my new rock for three months now. I think its time to set this new tank up!
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
Do it! :)
@maineway19997 жыл бұрын
On your question for the views that your channel gets, I think people like to see set up videos, build videos, updates and basically anything that has to actually do with the livestock and upkeep of your current tanks
@hokemspitter7 жыл бұрын
I have a sump which is a 75 gallon tank, with some poorly constructed baffles. I would love to see a how to break down a sump on a running system and put in baffles with the least pain.
@DJ_LittlePea7 жыл бұрын
This was really informational you did an exceptional job .... the ending was awesome 🤗
@Blackbookproduct10ns7 жыл бұрын
Wish I knew this before! I let some extra rock sit out in the sun and dry first. Now it's been doing exactly what you said for the past year almost. But it's totally dead.
@Blackbookproduct10ns7 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize you can kill the unwanted stuff without killing the rock.
@victorfox96236 жыл бұрын
Love the thumbnail.👍 Bring to a boil, cover and reduce heat to a smooth simmer, and wait 30 minutes. Add 2 pinches of salt and 1/4 cup of chaeto. Then serve over a shallow sand bed.
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
Victor Fox 😂 you are so wrong!
@gt500shelby97 жыл бұрын
Yes, i agree. i dipped for six weeks with lugols twice, did not do much but killed all the color. Revive made them freak out. Bayer killed them. I toke them all to the edge of death. brown almost white. So i put them back into main tank not sure any thing was going to live. surprisingly everything is coming back very slowly. melanurus wrasse are my new best friend.
@PaulBlaney7 жыл бұрын
Awesome vid very well done and explained things great couldn't have been better
@MarioNetasZz6617 жыл бұрын
I was torching the heck outta my live rock ..this was like 3yrs ago so I'm ok now ...great vid..
@rafaelsoriano53657 жыл бұрын
So basically your just curing the rock....
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
No, curing liverock is when you take uncycled rock and toss it in a vat of water for it to cycle. This is how you resolve nuisance algae as well as rejuvenate rock to get all the trapped detritus out and release the phosphate bound up in the rock.
@nyc42otoker24 күн бұрын
Did u clean and treat the 55 gal blue bin before u use it if so with what i have two i wanna clean to use not sure what was in it but want to be sire
@davileett12247 жыл бұрын
I cook live rock with bleach water. Rinse well and soak in water with a lot of dechlorinator. Rinse and repeat a few times.
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
It's really not cooking at that point, you're giving your rock a bleach bath. And after it's been bleached, there's no life left and it will need to be re-seeded with pods, bacteria, and coralline algae.
@XtraKargo2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if the brittle stars could survive this, or would they starve out? I have some cyano, bubble algae and some Texas Trash pallies I'd like to see gone, but would hate to waste a good live rock. Thank you!
@melevsreef2 жыл бұрын
They would live for a while, but the cooking process eliminates food and light usually, so they likely would starve out. If you added food, aiptasia, manjanos etc would continue living.
@edwindhanasekar45752 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@Albertoamigon7 жыл бұрын
the end was aw3some!!! lolzzz
@eligonzalezvaca33096 жыл бұрын
I'm so happy I came across this video. I have some rock I'd need to cook. Hahaha
@BearNecessitiesOfLife7 жыл бұрын
This is amazing information. I am curious though. for the saltwater, should it be RODI mixed with salt or would tap water/dechlorinated be okay for this process? Going to assume that i'd want RO to remove anything from the tap. But thought I would ask any ways. Again thank you, I was close to just tossing it all in some vinegar.
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
I would use RO/DI & salt to make 1.026sg saltwater. The more pure your water, the better. You are trying to drop the nutrients trapped in the rock, so using water that contains chlorine or phosphate or nitrate would be working against the process.
@dsanford125 жыл бұрын
So curing it is the same as cycling it and cooking it is getting rid of the pests and unwanted stuff ?
@melevsreef5 жыл бұрын
Cycling is the process of converting foul-smelling rock (due to decay of living matter usually caused by shipping out of water for a few days), getting it through the A-N-N *cycle* until it can be used. Cooking rock is a method of re-vitalizing used live rock to help export all the trapped detritus within it, and to help kill off algae primarily. The longer it cooks, the more likely pests will wither away due to a lack of foodsource.
@malawimaya7 жыл бұрын
How can I kill vermitid snails on live rock without killing everything else on it @melevsreef???
@leeandmandybattersby59587 жыл бұрын
Loved this video you should do more like this 👍👍👍👍
@frankl10247 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another very informative video!
@mujacko20024 жыл бұрын
would you recommend dipping also the "cooked" live rock in hydrogen perox or any chems to disinfect live rocks? Or just doing what you do is enough?
@ekimlicata87137 жыл бұрын
Hey maybe you can do a video on your past tanks. That would be really cool. Nice yard by the way.
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
I will do that in about two years. :)
@jameshamelin29692 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, just a quick question. I did everything you said and it's been over 8 weeks, can I use this rock in a established reef tank?
@melevsreef2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@DeeFromBrooklyn7 жыл бұрын
Great video Mark, I've definitely vinegar treated to get rid of an aiptasia infestated rock..
@MHoran863 жыл бұрын
so the process would be the same for dry rock/Marco Rock I just aquascaped? Better to cook it in a bin for 6-8 weeks, then in my tank? Assuming this means once I transfer the cooked rock over, with some added biomedia from an already running tank I have, the cycle process should be somewhat short?
@melevsreef3 жыл бұрын
You can definitely get the rock going now before it goes in the tank, submerging it in saltwater with good flow. Add some Live Rock Enhance (available on my site) to seed the rock with beneficial bacteria. Do some water changes because dry rock often times contains phosphate. Then once the tank is ready to set up, you can put that rock in the aquarium with some life. You can use the Dry Rock Starter kit (Brightwell product; also on my website) to do a quicker cycle.
@ArrickthaRed7 жыл бұрын
If I cooked rock in my kitchen on the stove with any pot my wife would peel the top layer of skin from my body and dip me in my nice saltwater tank
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
Another good reason not to do so. ;)
@justicemcclendon6807 жыл бұрын
I'm going to have a 32 gallon nano from coral life and I need wise live stock choices because I'm about to be a reefer and I have a 55 freshwater that been running for 2 years so I know about aquariums.
@cyngravatt1236 жыл бұрын
Thanks, your response was super helpful. I can break up the rock and see if I can find people to take them. I don’t know anyone that has a reef and I live in an area that has no fish stores....except one over an hour away. How would I go about shipping it to private parties that want some. Will it die in the winter? Thanks for your help.
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
If you wanted to ship corals to anyone, it would be handled exactly how the fish stores receive their orders. Carefully packed in bags of water, packed in styrofoam coolers with heat packs, shipped overnight to limit time out of the aquarium... Lots of work. I only tend to ship corals during spring and fall when the weather is the mildest.
@jenkinscrew7 жыл бұрын
Great info! Thanks Marc!
@kenhickey47307 жыл бұрын
Thank you Melev, I have Hair algae and I am thinking it is due to Marco Rocks having Phosphate. I will place some of my smaller rocks in a bucket and try this process.
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
Let me know how that goes. Can you set up a skimmer with that bucket somehow?
@kenhickey47307 жыл бұрын
No skimmer for the bucket, :-(
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
You can give it a shot. Maybe dose the water with circulation, then let it settle with no flow, remove the rocks shaking them off well in the water, and place them in a new bucket of water. Or if you have a canister filter... Or if you can rig a filter sock (I sell the 10micron socks) to trap the flocculant, using a small powerhead to push water up into the sock and drain back down into the bucket.
@timeepicvideos3 жыл бұрын
i liked this vid great pointers
@COOPERSCICHILDS7 жыл бұрын
Excellent video but it's there a such thing as live fresh water rock? great video
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
I don't know, sorry.
@TheThrillanmanilla7 жыл бұрын
The picture for the video with the stove is a bit misleading lol. (I've heard the paly toxin horror stories.)
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
I know, right? That was intentional. :)
@cyngravatt1236 жыл бұрын
I also don’t frag I don’t like cutting live corals. Throwing them out in the sun sounds horrible too
@ScottM7 жыл бұрын
excellent video with a lot of great information. I did love the ending.
@genehall88957 жыл бұрын
I have a barrel of old live rock that has been dead and dry for years .Is it safe to use ,and if so how should it be cleaned and or processed before i can use it for base rock?
@postaljeepdave7 жыл бұрын
i'm needing to reboot my tank. had a major outbreak of macro algae mainly bubble algae. my plan was to acid kill and then re cure the rock. would cooking rock like this kill off the spores in the rock from the algae. i would hate to go through the trouble of cooking the rock only to instantly have an algae problem return.
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
If you cook the liverock for a few (at least six) weeks in darkness, yes the bubble algae will weaken, fade and probably die off. You will be able to easily remove what remains. And if you are skimming the water, changing the water, or using Phosphate Rx to remove phosphate from the water, that took will help you solve this issue.
@sarahx875 жыл бұрын
i thought you're cooking pyura chilensis
@brutalisk19945 жыл бұрын
yeah me too :-DD
@Healeyjet3 жыл бұрын
Would you ever risk putting new live rock direct from the ocean into a new aquarium? I am willing to wait for hitchhikers to appear and deal with them but is the risk of other pests worth the reward?
@BodyworkASMR7 жыл бұрын
my live rocks are plagued with mini vermetid snails. I don't have any other bad pests and bad algaes. Should I cook my rock.
@renea.27077 жыл бұрын
Wow great information! Thanks
@MrCompressiceps7 жыл бұрын
i wish i saw this before doing exactly what he said not to do, ie boiling rock on stove top.
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
Spread the word to help others. Glad you are okay. :)
@eldridgehenry27 жыл бұрын
ok this is great if you have used rock but what about new rock. will this work with pukani as well?
@Cerg647 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video! Thank you! I may have missed it but will cooking my rock for an extended period rid it of majanos? We are moving next year and I want to keep my rock for my 125gal. I want to streamline my 75gal. Now for more space for better flow and coral display. Thank you !!
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
The longer the rock simmers in total darkness, the fewer any pests can survive. Manjanos are a real pain, but they are attracted to light. You might be able to rig a small light shining through a hole in the lid, which in theory they'd move to get to. And if that worked well, you could even move the light to shine on the wall of your container perhaps so they'd migrate to that area for easier removal. Regardless, they will definitely climb to the highest point to get to light, so perhaps they would gather on a single rock. The rest would be manjano free, and you'd focus your efforts on that one rock.
@Cerg647 жыл бұрын
melevsreef Perfect! Thank you for the help!
@tsurro80867 жыл бұрын
Usually do something similar to this , but I new build I used pukani rock and is leaching phosphates like crazy in my display while still cycling like .68!
@thingwhatever6 жыл бұрын
I just bought some coral from the pawnshop. Not sure if it’s live or not. But it’s going to be put in my 90gal freshwater tank. Will this process in the video make the coral safe for freshwater⁉️ Thanks‼️
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
Odds are it's dead, pawn shops don't sell livestock. You can leave it in the sun for a week or so, then soak it in tapwater before you put it your aquarium.
@duffy12987 жыл бұрын
Would you mind explaining your take on starting a reef tank? As far as cycling and first animals you'd recommend? Thanks
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
+duffy1298 Did you watch the cycling video yet?
@SourGrey2 жыл бұрын
I did bleach soak a few days. Then clean water rinse. Then bake in oven 20m
@melevsreef2 жыл бұрын
The baking part was very dangerous.
@SourGrey2 жыл бұрын
@@melevsreef opened doors had a fan
@SourGrey2 жыл бұрын
But ya your right
@daveonbass797 жыл бұрын
Great video as usual. Just one silly question...why is "ELECTRICITY" backwards on your shirt?
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
;) That's how it is when you mix the two. www.melevsreef.com/node/1769
@daveonbass797 жыл бұрын
melevsreef Interesting...i never looked into that. thanks.
@Dean_O.7 жыл бұрын
Marc, would changing the water more frequently speed up the cooking process? If the rock is sitting in water with high ammonia, phosphate etc., would it make sense to change the water more frequently? thanks.
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
Actually, if the rock is high ammonia, you don't want to change the water at all because it is going through a cycle. You need it to go through the A-N-N stages, then you can change water weekly if you wish.
@pamkonen85937 жыл бұрын
have rock thats been sitting out in dark basement. I cooked it for 3 weeks just as u showed, can I put in tank I'm starting brand new tank....need to cycle....
@andrebrazil73077 жыл бұрын
if you remove a majority of you rock to cook it, is there enough beneficial bacteria remaining in your tank to sustain a small bioload through the process?
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
This process is really for used rock you purchased, or if you are breaking down your tank to move to a new one and know it'll be a couple of months before you're ready. For example, you're moving from one place to another, so you break down the tank and move everything to the new place. But since you are busy moving in, focusing on getting everything just right, you really won't have time to set up the tank yet -- or you want to take your time getting the plumbing and wiring just right this time. All that time the rock could be cooking. One other thing you could do is remove a couple of pieces of rock at a time and cooking them, rotating through system gradually. But messing with your aquascape every so often may be too annoying. But if you purchased quite a bit of rock from a guy getting out of the hobby, cook it all and then one day attack your tank and set it up fresh with all the cooked rock, and put the used rock from the tank in the barrel and let it simmer until you need it some day. :)
@rebeldeasupoder927 жыл бұрын
Do you use ZEOvit Media in your aquarium? Why or Why not? and If you do, What would yo suggest after the media is used? Can it be "recycle" some how?
@adiroy2656 жыл бұрын
Quick question, when do you generally introduced the rock to an established aquarium? I am it's been a month since my 40 pound rock is curing , still have high nitrate, do you look for absolutely zero in everything then introduce to the tank or any other way, thanks--
@melainkinney72134 жыл бұрын
Great video i got 60 pound live used rock some had aiptasia on them those i tossed away . but being scared it was in the tank . i set the 60 pounds i kept outside in the sun /cold it's winter time here cleaned it with ro di water . i hated to do that but aiptasia scared me so much the tank had these tiny aiptasia believe there tiny star fish looking .. . so set it out doors for 4 weeks brought it in 2 week ago and began mix ixing and cooking it in bucket (per your video ) of fresh salt water room temp circulating . Plan to leave it covered 2 more weeks that is were i love it when you said u store it forever in your own home .. so can i expect that any hitch hikers will not be there when i'm ready in 2 to 4 weeks to use this rock . it was a grab these rock now the guy was moving take it all deal free .. came with fish there fine shape normally i resist impulse . guess my bottom question should i cure the rock even longer since i know history of the rock or cut my loss just enjoy nice tangs i got and be happy ?
@pramodm65006 жыл бұрын
Nice video Mark. But i have a question here. If we fully cure live rock for 4 to 8 weeks, it means we are making ammonia to zero. This means the water is cycled. So when we put the fully cured live rock into our new aquarium tank, how will it help the water in the tank to cycle?
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
Cooking the live rock is to rejuvenate it. It's not about cycling it or curing it, per se. If you ended up with a cycle and it reached zero, it would be ready to transfer into a new tank. Assuming you keep it fully submerged at all times, other than physically lifting it out of the water only long enough to put it in the tank full of water, it should be ready for *some* new life. But putting a bunch of cured rock in a tank doesn't mean you can hit it with a heavy bioload. It's not really about the water although we do want stable parameters. The Cycle is really about bacteria. As it converts from Ammonia to Nitrite to Nitrate, the bacteria in the system will build up in numbers to absorb and process what the livestock produces and wastes. Fish waste is ammonia based, but the constant number of bacteria in the system quickly converts it to nitrite and nitrate all the time.
@airtripko7 жыл бұрын
Great topic!
@brodyballew9255 жыл бұрын
I’m getting what was once live rock from someone’s old tank it’s now dry rock it’s sat outside for a good bit so if I just mix saltwater to 1.25 and add a power head for about a month it should be good to go for cycling my new tank?
@melevsreef5 жыл бұрын
Yes, that sounds right to me.
@tkiefer726 жыл бұрын
For bad aiptasia infestation would you recommend killing/sterilizing/sun drying the rock for a couple weeks/or something similar to kill all spores (just to be safe), then "cook" cooking the rock or after the drying out process should you just cyre/cycle the rock? Basically what is the best way to make sure there is no aiptasia? I have no problem being patience on the back end to re-cycle the rock as long as i know that darn pest is gone! Especially if I am completely tearing down the tank to move... I would want to make sure I started fresh. Thanks
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
There are a few predators you could put in a vat with the rock during the cooking process. Peppermint shrimp for example. I just ordered a new laser last night to replace the one I bought three years ago, and this one is 4x as strong. Can't wait to cook any aiptasia I can find, and do an update video. :) Aiptasia X would work, Berghia nudibranchs are another method... I don't really see the benefit to drying out rock in the sun ever. Those 'spores' you mentioned can hibernate pretty well, only to return later once water conditions are back to normal.
@lainnycurin97636 жыл бұрын
Not to be obnoxious....but....they really ought to come up with another term other than "Cook" What do you think most people would think when they hear the term "cook" There's no way to avoid it unless you change the term. I would try and figure out a way to say it differently so people won't actually "Cook" their live rock. Like...."Bucket cook"...or "bucket bake" or "Live rock bucket wash" If we stop using the term "cook" people will stop heading to the stove.....lol
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
Rejuvenating Rock, maybe? :)
@lainnycurin97636 жыл бұрын
I like that...lol....good one")
@BONESYOU6 жыл бұрын
So your return lines are coming from the bottom middle of the tank? What do you have for a fail safes?
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
Here's the blog with the return lines: www.reefaddicts.com/entry.php/28974-The-400g-is-officially-running-(Blog-500!)?bt=45774
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
And here's the reverse check valve video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/isqFhdKf1KndioE.html
@BALD8BIL4 жыл бұрын
I hope you can help me out I lost my butterfly fish yesterday and My local saltwater store told me to remove the rocks out of the aquarium for 3 or 4 days setting in the sun to kill all of the aiptasia off my rocks then put rocks back in aquarium ? or put the rocks inside freshwater ? He also said in the 30 years he's never seen aiptasia this big before and for the rocks that has corals on they keep inside tank and he will give me a new butterfly fish to take care of them. I have a filefish and 2 peppermint shrimp that not working. So right now I have my rocks in ro-di water outside. Would I need to set my rocks inside new saltwater before I put them back in the aquarium?
@melevsreef4 жыл бұрын
I saw your post in Club Melevsreef and already replied.
@BALD8BIL4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your help after he told me I need to pull the rocks out of my tank and set them outside I started searching up how to do that and I came across this videoand if it wasn't for this video they would have been sitting outside and inside of no water to for the sun that cook them up now I will look for the video cycle rocks before installing them back in the aquarium
@Jheat647 жыл бұрын
I have 32g brute trash can with about 100 lbs of rock. it's been cooking for about 6 months now.
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
That's great. Do you ever change the water in there? Might want to do it now while you're thinking about it.
@Jheat647 жыл бұрын
melevsreef I don't change it often, about 6 to 8 weeks. Last water change was mid-October. I do top it off once a week.
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
That's pretty much what I did as well. I had a barrel filled with rock for years - maybe four years. lol Didn't have to top off much because I had the inverted lid on top to keep the moisture in the barrel.
@Jheat647 жыл бұрын
melevsreef I probably should have inverted the lid. I just snapped it on normally. After a few weeks in the summer heat, it warped pretty badly.
@MoneyMarcMes7 жыл бұрын
Will this kill tube worms in the liverock as well?
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
They would starve them to some degree and lessen their population, but no it won't eliminate every last one.
@rrrreefer97215 жыл бұрын
How can I get a call with you on some advice. I have a new tank just set up, running tank with all of my livestock, and a 40 gallon QT that's not set up yet. I need my live rock out to aquascape the new tank but have nems and coral everywhere. The fish won't have live rock to handle the ammonia. Just really need your help on possible logistics of handling the livestock and setup. Thanks and love your channel.
@melevsreef5 жыл бұрын
Send me your phone number via Contact Us on my website, and include a good time of day to speak. I offer consultation as well, if you need more than a few questions answered.
@brucelee55406 жыл бұрын
do aiptasia and vermetid snails die in the dark?
@arrowheadsf6 жыл бұрын
will cooking the rock also get rid of vermitid snails?
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
Eventually yes. It would take six months or so.
@NanaReefer7 жыл бұрын
Kind of off topic a little, still concerning rock though 😉 Marc, do you or not recommend keeping LR in the fuge area of our sumps?
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
No. If I would put rocks in the refugium then those would remain there forever. Macroalgae will take root in the rock, and I won't move it into my display after that. Unless I cooked it for about 3 months first. Just like any rock used in a QT would remain in the QT from then on since it may absorb medications or other problems from new arrivals.
@IS-db6pn7 жыл бұрын
What about vermetid snails? How can I get rid of those pests in my rock? Will cooking rock help avoid them in the first place?
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
Not really. If you see them on your rock, I'd cut them off with bone cutters (a type of reefing tool most people own). At the very least, break off their tubes and add blue leg hermits to the tank to devour the worms within.
@jorgebear936 жыл бұрын
Can you reuse the pump on a aquarium ?
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
Sure.
@nimasari993 жыл бұрын
Pyura chilensis?
@chaosinc.89067 жыл бұрын
dam, i just tore down a take today, I wish i knew this earlier it is to late they have been outside all day.
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
You can still put the rock in saltwater, the core is still wet.
@timmiegray72127 жыл бұрын
my LFS told me.to set in sun for 2 weeks then put in tank to cycle is that wrong?
@stefanbates9235 жыл бұрын
Mel I've got some marco rock being delivered in the next few days that's never been In a tank can I do the exact same thing as you describe in your video to cook / cure the rock? Thanks Mel
@georgearias73366 жыл бұрын
What about water boiling Pukani dry rock?? I just bought an amount from BRS and gee.. rock literally stink!!
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
Don't boil it. Just "cook it" as described in saltwater for a few weeks, and change the water as you see fit. It will soon be ready to use. :)
@tentyme16 жыл бұрын
I have a question i'm hoping you can help me with. I have some really nice what used to be live rock in my freshwater aquarium for the past 7 years. What is the best way and how would I get this rock ready to be used in a saltwater aquarium? Thx for your help Mel !!
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
I don’t know. Some rock may be fine in freshwater (lace, lava) isn’t suitable for saltwater. We try to avoid using rock that may have metals in them. Previous medications used could have infused that rock too. So it comes down to the history of that rock: what has it been through and what is it made of to know if it is safe to use with a saltwater tank.
@estheryyee7 жыл бұрын
thanks for the vid!
@imghaniff6 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, how does this method really kill aiptasia? I always thought that when the aiptasia anemone does, even if one cell is alive it can come back. I want to get rid of bubble algae, vermatid snails, and some aiptasia. Do you think nuking the altogether is preferred or use the mentioned method you discussed here? :) thanks
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
If you don't provide any food and the rock stays in a barrel for a very long duration, aiptasia will starve itself to death. It would be a very long process, probably 6-12 months more than likely. I had rock in a barrel for years, and drew out pieces to use, putting others back into the barrel that I didn't need. I never ran pulled a rock out that had aiptasia on it, despite that it was live rock from previous setups. I'm a very patient guy though, and don't waste anything... so it makes sense that I'd have rock that was devoid of pests in a barrel of circulating saltwater ready to use whenever I finally needed some. ;)
@battyjoe6 жыл бұрын
Will the same method work well for some old live rock, that was left in the sun and dried out for a week? It was thus now dead, but still covered in old aptasia and other rubbish
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
Definitely. Do the exact same cooking process and get that rock ready for your next tank. The longer it cooks, the better the yield.
@battyjoe6 жыл бұрын
I have them in a big bin in the shade in the garden now, covered with clingfilm and the bin lid on. There is just a pump running to keep it simple. The temperature here reaches into the mid to high 40C in the summer (115-120F) so a heater is not required. They have been there for around a week now and the water is a mess! No hurry on them, the next tank will be a 650 peninsula next year, so at least I will have plenty of rock by then :)
@leeverink326 жыл бұрын
so after this video i still wanna now. ( I already did the stupid thing of cooking it on the stove and i did that because its completeley covered with aiptasia brisstle worms and beard algae. there are still some not done. To get things strait i can put them in a closed container no light no heating and a small pump every thing bad will die? but how do i now the worm is gone? the dead rock i have i put in to a nother container with a power head and a piece of new life rock from the store it has been out off the water for almost 24 hours not realy dry and some starter collony will that work?
@melevsreef6 жыл бұрын
First off, you got lucky. Congrats on that one, seriously. :) Yes, get a barrel or rubbermaid bin and fill it up with the rock, saltwater, a powerhead or a couple of larger pumps to move the water well throughout the bin, and yes I'd add a heater to keep it around 72F or so. A lid on top should be good to help starve the algae of any light it could use to grow. Shake that rock well every couple of weeks, moving it to a new container with new saltwater and after a couple of months of this, you'll have rock ready to use in your tank. Put the new rock from your LFS in there as well, it will help get bacteria to the other rocks as they 'cook' quietly in darkness.
@soempaing24367 жыл бұрын
How much calories does a 1lb live rock has? Does it provide enough vitamins and fiber?
@daniel692847 жыл бұрын
I have a question please .. What about cooking rock in a garage during summer in TX ( 100 degrees out side). I am cooking rock now and the water in my Brute trashcan is Hot.
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
Some bacteria will likely die due to the higher water temperature, but it won't kill it all off. It should be okay, just make sure you maintain circulation. Maybe install a fan to blow on the water to help cool it?
@JessyCat777 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO!
@ReefRealEstateInCanada7 жыл бұрын
Creative Soup hey Marc nothing to do with this video but I was trying to find your video with the sump vacuum pump you used. Going out to get that set up. Can you let me know what video it was. Thanks man!!
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
This is the video, around the 21 minute mark: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jp11gLuZs8-Vn4E.html
@marektustin46377 жыл бұрын
great info, like always :)
@davidfinch87907 жыл бұрын
Im a little confused. You specifically mention this method can be used for removing Aiptasia from the rock but then mention that you can "scrape aiptasia off of it if you want to". True, but if I am to remove the rock, scrape the aip off then return to display tank, why do I need to put it in a bucket for X-weeks? Im told attempting to scrape Aip off manually will likely result in them releasing spores and worsening the problem. I have approx 20% of my rock infested with Aip. Ive got Aip-X for the bigguns and a crew of peppermints to get a hold on the babies that pop up, my thoughts were just to nuke the worse rock with boiling RO (outside in a barrel not on the stove) and then effectively have that rock re-seeded by what still exists in my system. Is this method for me, or have I got the wrong end of the stick?
@melevsreef7 жыл бұрын
If you wanted to remove them out of your tank in a barrel of water, you wouldn't have to worry about released spores whatsoever. No matter what you do, you need to stay on top of it daily or every few days until you can't find them any more. Using Aiptasia-X and some peppermint shrimp is a good idea, and you can do it in-tank.