Multimach Is A MONSTER And The "Max Range" Roll Isn't What You Think
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Always a place in my heart for Multimach. To this day it's still relevant. In this review, I go over why you want it. I highly encourage you to get it. We lost some perks, but they brought it back near perfect and in a lot of ways better. I see a lot of information about this SMG out there, but I wan to set some things straight. It's a rare one. Get rolls.
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@CoolGuyGames 3 ай бұрын
This thing is still brutal. The rolls I went over... try them. I think you'll see that. Thank you for watching!
@arjunbaweja7755 3 ай бұрын
doesn't Adjudicator have kinetic tremors? How do we feel about that.
@CoolGuyGames 3 ай бұрын
@arjunbaweja7755 13 zoom slower ttk, slightly more range. Tremors in pvp is hit based, won't proc on adjudicator. Pve, sure
@arjunbaweja7755 3 ай бұрын
I see, that explains why this weapon is so unique! Since this can be enhanced later on, that means that tremors will happen sooner. Paired with dynamic happening sooner as well, I can see why this is so valued.
@trevorromein14 3 ай бұрын
So is this replacing your Showrunner with Kenetic Tremors? Or is it a toss up?
@trevorromein14 3 ай бұрын
Both 900 RPM Lightweight Frame. Both can roll DSR/ Kenetic Tremors. Showrunner has Nadir Focus, 13 Zoom. Multimach has Skulking Wolf, 15 Zoom, 1 extra range, 3 extra stability and 10 extra handling. If Iron Banner isn't your gig, a Showrunner from Witch Engrams might be a viable substitute.
@TheRealFerum 3 ай бұрын
8:57 as soon as i died i knew i was getting put in the youtube video
@BREAKocean 3 ай бұрын
Could be worse. I faced lemur twice in a row in trials and people started recognizing me throughout the night
@Fenneken141 3 ай бұрын
I'd be honored lmao
@Zeke933 3 ай бұрын
lol i watched it and was like that poor titan XD
@caribbeanjerk8541 3 ай бұрын
Well……….u died 😎
@mikkxfit 3 ай бұрын
22 matches in on Banner and haven’t gotten a single new weapon to drop.
@trowabarton222 3 ай бұрын
Just turn in your engrams at Saladin until you get a drop.
@mikkxfit 3 ай бұрын
I’m 30 engrams deep, too
@SonicVibe 3 ай бұрын
Yeah even the quest line broke and didn’t give a drop smh now it’s gone so I can’t even do it no drops and it takes like 20 matches for one drop and then it’s 5 engrams for a focus drop smh 🤦♂️ that’s only if it’s unlocked 🔓 and dropped already
@trowabarton222 3 ай бұрын
@@SonicVibe it's only 1 engram and some glimmer for a focus drop once you get it.
@SonicVibe 3 ай бұрын
@@trowabarton222 maybe after the first 5 it drops cost but none say one except old stuff ya missed
@RobGThai 3 ай бұрын
This is why I love your review. You approach the problem space with open mind and find creative solution when there’s potential. I was farming KT for PvE and now I might try that out in PvP as well.
@dankerbell 3 ай бұрын
ye exactly, you can always rely on coolguy to find outside of the box rolls or uses for perks and still have it be something anyone can use
@Soundwave0606 3 ай бұрын
Very well said.
@ryanclune3883 3 ай бұрын
Got an offer letter for a new job today making way more money and working better hours, cannot WAIT to start grinding D2 again, specifically pvp ❤❤❤
@samgreen8582 3 ай бұрын
Awesome man, congratulations!
@thunder86440 3 ай бұрын
Congratssss. Love to see the bros winning!!!
@SenfMustard 3 ай бұрын
Go get it king
@tullymahin 3 ай бұрын
Here's a 🍪
@life-destiny1196 3 ай бұрын
Glad someone got the dub these days. I've been turned down like a bajillion times
@SteelShad0w_ 3 ай бұрын
Once thing I wanna shout out is not to sleep on Attrition Orbs + Kinetic Tremors in PvE. Big damage and orb generation just for keeping on an enemy, no kill necessary!
@kyloben8537 3 ай бұрын
can not believe more people are not giving attrition orbs more love, it is amazing
@althechicken9597 3 ай бұрын
On smgs attrition orbs is nuts. Not so much on some other stuff.
@1shaggy123 3 ай бұрын
This is the roll I was after. Me and a buddy got it and went and tried it out. Orbs everywhere. Constant healing and surges. Kinetic tremors killing everything. Super fun roll and definitely makes this smg best in slot in my mind .
@ToxiiicGaming 3 ай бұрын
How many bullets does it take to drop an orb and how many orbs can I drop from one mag?
@1shaggy123 3 ай бұрын
@@ToxiiicGaming It takes 25 or so bullets for the orb to spawn, but that is sped up by the kinetic tremor. The tremor counts as hits, too. Realistically, you will drop one orb and proc kinetic tremors once per mag. Really fun gun
@Oracle3331 3 ай бұрын
Another bonus to using Kinetic Tremors in PvP is that everyone's gonna be a bit slow getting out of the way of it since they're not used to seeing it.
@arjunbaweja7755 3 ай бұрын
people dont understand how its basically just harder, but more reward, explosive payload.
@derek3154 3 ай бұрын
I got hit by it in an IB match earlier, was like…WTF, in PvP…guess that’s a thing😅
@joako3733 3 ай бұрын
@@arjunbaweja7755not similar at all
@leekyz 3 ай бұрын
@@arjunbaweja7755 just bc it makes an explosion doesn't mean its explosive payload bruv, its like saying dragonfly its like explosive payload
@arjunbaweja7755 3 ай бұрын
@@joako3733 they serve the same purpose of basically standardizing some of your damage across all ranges.
@peacelovemetal5197 3 ай бұрын
You're so right on the 15 zoom part. For a long time, I couldn't figure out why some SMGs just didn't click for me. I then realized that all the ones I succeed with have 15 zoom or 14 with rangefinder! Multimach out of the box feels just as nice as Submission to me as a result vs something like The Showrunner with 13 or 13 with RF I can't hit anything with. Very excited to get a good roll with Target Lock so I can maintain the best ttk against high resil guardians. I also prefer consistency with my lightweight SMGs over kill chaining like Kill Clip since they kill so fast anyways, so Target Lock makes the most sense for me.
@themediocrethor 3 ай бұрын
Under over/Kt. Got it. Plus we can enhance this next season which will mean we’re doing even more damage with UO and taking less bullets to proc KT.
@lgtokyo2665 3 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, I don’t think the weapon is gonna be future proof with that role. Im still going to get TL
@JosePlays_ 3 ай бұрын
Can we switch up the barrels in the future?
@ooze1982 3 ай бұрын
@@JosePlays_ No. Bungie said only the Perks from Columns 3 and 4 can be enhanced.
@HarlequinJitsu 3 ай бұрын
Every other reviewer just went Ermahgaaaad full bore accurized, dogwater iron reach. Literal bots. Thank you for actually taking the time to see what really works. Best guy around
@otisdriftwood7094 3 ай бұрын
Full bore with iron reach and zero stability. So stupid. At least go small bore, accurized range masterwork or hammer forged, accurized, stability masterwork if you're dead set on iron reach. I tried one with 18 stab and it felt horrible. Dynamic sway with kill clip feels great.
@TheDapperTapper 3 ай бұрын
I was telling my clan not to do Iron Reach. It's a 10 point stat penalty for the gun. NEVER go below 20 stability, it's literally a handicap as you end up taking *more* flinch.
@swiitch8634 3 ай бұрын
U realize ur calling saywalla a bot right? He loves iron reach, but ya know it’s not like he’s one of the best PvP players alive or anything😂😂👌
@HarlequinJitsu 3 ай бұрын
Well I sniped him in the face last time I saw him so clearly I'm superior
@jellyboi8027 3 ай бұрын
Just cuz people recommend a perk you don’t personally like doesn’t make them bots or dog water at the game. You sound extremely egotistical lol.
@EtotheFnD 3 ай бұрын
Thsnks for gettin nerdy with it buddy...👊
@OkYh420 Ай бұрын
dude your videos are so good, I have watched so many weapon videos but something about the way you go through things and explaining your reasoning really sits well with me, thank you, you are definitely one of the best out there.
@will11lliw 3 ай бұрын
The updates from Coolguy are so thorough and well communicated. You are amazing Coolguy.
@kingrogers7740 3 ай бұрын
You were swift getting this one out! I appreciate it, I really do value your opinion especially on weapons where the “god roll” isn’t always so cut and dry
@Zavico_ 3 ай бұрын
never would i expect to think kinetic tremmors to look broken on an smg or any gun in pvp till i saw what you did to that titan at 8:56
@swarthygiant1463 3 ай бұрын
Best part is the enhanced version makes it take less shots, so as soon as it’s enhanceable it’s might even get kills in 13 shots instead of 14 (although that wouldn't affect optimal TTK as you’d have to wait that half second for the explosion to proc anyway)
@HollowPoint503 3 ай бұрын
@@swarthygiant1463are they going to let us enhance these at some point? I haven’t been following closely these last few months.
@HxFearNoFishxG 3 ай бұрын
@@HollowPoint503 Yup! Once TFS drops, a handful of weapons like Multimach and Tusk of the Boar, this year's Guardian Game weapons, the new Trials and Nightfall weapons, and the refreshed Prophecy weapons are all going to be enhanceable.
@pecador_tor 3 ай бұрын
showrunner can do it but it's recoil and zoom isn't as great
@ROFLWAFFLELAWL4 3 ай бұрын
@@swarthygiant1463 Not necessarily. You need to wait half a second for the 2nd explosion but the first explosion happens on the moment of activation. So it should definitely drop TTK.
@Alucard0969 3 ай бұрын
I e been watching your videos for a pretty long time and it helps a lot the way you explain the in depth of these weapons. I APPRECIATE what you do. Awesome job. Much thanks
@CasuallyAvg 3 ай бұрын
I was on the receiving end of the kinetic tremors roll a few times today when I matched you on Vostok lol. Good games out there and thank you for the awesome content as always!
@samuelgibbons1221 3 ай бұрын
Bro love your content amazing as always the grind is on cheers
@franksidebottom8503 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the quick turnaround on the review - I’ve only sharded a couple. But today Im going to cut down the stash of old unusable multimachs I’d stashed to make space in the vault.
@BOLOGNAINTHEHOUSE 3 ай бұрын
Cool guy and TV, the only guys who don't overhype stuff. Respect.
@PastorJummp 3 ай бұрын
A funny conversation during IB yesterday while my wife was playing on my account: Edit: @5:32 that’s my wife 😂 Edit 2: @5:50 too 😂 My wife: this guy keeps killing me! Ugh Me: That’s what happens when you play on my account. You play better PVPers. My wife: Cool guy keeps killing me! Me:Who!?!?! My wife: that guy 👉 mynameiscoolguy Me: your playing against cool guy!!! Hand me the sticks. My wife: who? Me: My favorite KZfaqr hand me the controller. 2 minutes pass… Me: cool guy keeps killing me!
@gramdalfthewhite 2 ай бұрын
Hahahaha that's hilarious 😂 at least you kept letting her play. Show her some of his vids, and be like "this is who was killing you "
@PastorJummp 2 ай бұрын
@@gramdalfthewhite already did LOL. She was embarrassed and I told her “well it’s on my account, not yours.”
@gramdalfthewhite 2 ай бұрын
@@PastorJummp classic. Lol it put y'all on the map 😆
@lumas69 3 ай бұрын
I rolled one with 80 handling 53 stability 29 range, under over, kinetic tremors. It's an absolute terror to barricade overshield titans and anyone chilling near them
@gazdust896 3 ай бұрын
I have your exact roll Coolguy except with a range MW. I've had it since season of the chosen. My no. 1 most used weapon in pvp. It's hung out through so many zoom nerfs and is still a beast. I feel like I have a gem here. Love the review
@deano1010101 3 ай бұрын
Wow I never would have thought to use that perk in PvP. Thank you!
@DCCXXjay 3 ай бұрын
coming form the true vanguard review to this is wild
@LoitumaMarz 3 ай бұрын
Everytime I watch one of your videos, it really has me thinking more outside the box. appreciate you and what you do CoolGuy!
@jimmcmeen761 3 ай бұрын
Thanks cool guy! Definitely going for a tremor roll now
@noblevendetta 3 ай бұрын
I'm happy with my accurized rounds, dynamic sway reduction, and tape the trigger roll.
@rodrequizerhodman6630 3 ай бұрын
I Love your videos my friend. Glad to see you are doing well. My thoughts and prayers have been with you. I missed these awesome videos! Best Destiny 2 Weapons Analyst out!
@robertdewolfe1654 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the return review!
@badbadleroybrown650 3 ай бұрын
As always, I was waiting on this video. I have that killing wind, kill clip roll from a few years ago but I have a roll I am testing out now with Underover and Kinetic tremors. It’s doing pretty good.
@otorichan1989 3 ай бұрын
What is the barrel & mag you suggest. I watched twice but didn't catch it
@icarusfluffybottom899 3 ай бұрын
Huh. I got REALLY lucky as my first Multimach was the exact roll I wanted for PvE... Under-Over and Kinetic Tremors. It's for endgame activities so my kinetic weapon can do the tremors thing, and also get some nice bonus damage against shielded enemies. Pretty interesting you end up talking about that exact roll here, for PvP :p I definitely see the application though. I hadn't really thought about the effectiveness of Tremors letting you fight outside your range, having those few extra shots actually have some kind of benefit tied to them. That's pretty cool. Lookin' forward to trying this out in IB later!
@damazsta 3 ай бұрын
I got one with over under AND Kinetic Tremors. Is that a good combo?
@kpustetto 2 ай бұрын
Is it worth grinding for if I have a max range QuickDraw/Kill Clip one from S13?
@HollowPoint503 3 ай бұрын
Just so everyone’s aware, a 14 bullet TTK on this puts it at 0.867 seconds. In other words: about on par with a 140 hand cannon hitting all their precision shots. Kinetic Tremors is sort of a backstop to damage falloff and hitting body shots.
@HollowPoint503 3 ай бұрын
I got so lucky. I had 4 IB engrams left over from last time IB came around. I cashed them in and the 4th dropped not only Multimach, but dynamic sway / kinetic tremors. Unfortunately I only got small bore as the only additional range help.
@OGMirror 3 ай бұрын
hey what are you useing to have the x on the bodys?
@theforestapp 2 ай бұрын
so whats your pvp god roll and mod? under over , tremors and?
@aaroncunningham1121 3 ай бұрын
Love your weapon reviews! Definitely my favorite d2 videos to watch.
@weatherman6655 3 ай бұрын
Hell yeah the weapon dropped yesterday and you already got a 10+ video on it keep up the hard work
@HAWKER37 3 ай бұрын
I got the under over KC roll with small bore accurized and a handling masterwork. I am super happy I kept it going to give it a shot. Think that’s enough of a range bump for that roll?
@JeepPJ 3 ай бұрын
This was super interesting. I have full bore / ricochet / dynamic sway / kinetic tremors / nadir focus on my Showrunner. Would love to see a comparison test at some point. Thanks for sharing this review!
@JeepPJ 3 ай бұрын
Correction... Hammer forged vs. Full bore
@goldyglocks7431 3 ай бұрын
Luckily I unlocked this gun early. Great information. It changes what I am looking for. Time to grind
@Mkgaming252 3 ай бұрын
I’m a console player I got yesterday one multimach I have barrels smallbore full bore accurized rounds dynamic sway tap the trigger and masterwork range is it good for controller players?
@will300180 3 ай бұрын
Got one on my first match, rangefinder , kinetic tremors, I suck at pvp but I found it pretty hilarious procing kinetic tremors to people, it's helping me to play more aggressive so it's a win win.
@laxzuli2766 3 ай бұрын
got my godroll with smallbore, accurized, UO & KC w range mw and it's been great
@MitchHeaslip 3 ай бұрын
Got an under over / kill clip roll and it’s nasty. Also have a dynamic sway/ kinetic tremors roll I assumed would be my pve roll but after watching this I’m gonna have to take it for a spin
@wremch 3 ай бұрын
I’m very much not a numbers guy but I have an old killing wind, kill clip but it only has 14 zoom, how vital is that extra point. Should I just be rocking this instead of joining the chase for a new roll?
@SakuyaFM4 3 ай бұрын
Two of my trusted sources say Multimach is still good. That means gun still good.
@davidmaldonado4650 3 ай бұрын
40 matches I'm done
@corujariousa 3 ай бұрын
I have that same old role you have but with tactical mag instead of accurized rounds. It is great indeed.
@JComm57 3 ай бұрын
I love my OG Multimach with kill clip and threat detector.
@deryckzan 3 ай бұрын
What's that app that he's using to show ttks and ranges
@o-vGH05Tv-o 3 ай бұрын
ive never been so happy with one of your videos. i have both of these highlighted rolls already so I don't have to go back in there! 🥳
@LuigisPikachu 2 ай бұрын
Someone forgot that the rangefinder nerf happened.
@crashka5860 3 ай бұрын
im a diehard lightweight smg fan, submission from vow is my most used pvp gun followed by out of bounds. wasnt around for the first multimach so over the moon to have a chance to get it
@hoganlegdrop2409 3 ай бұрын
Now everyone is going to have kinetic tremors. It's what makes my showerunner so dominate.
@RaindustZX 3 ай бұрын
I just got one. Going to try it tomorrow
@randy2058 3 ай бұрын
Love your videos!!! I HAVE NOT gotten this to drop yet. almost 15 pieces of armor and a few of the GL but NOT this!
@GochuGugsu 3 ай бұрын
I just so happen to have this roll he’s using in the video lolol
@cabooseshero 3 ай бұрын
Love the review CoolGuy. I hope you're doing well.
@eir3831 3 ай бұрын
Will you try out banner auto? I think that gun can duel in pulse range and it's silly. I got a 100 range and it's kinda fun
@noluv_xay3920 3 ай бұрын
How many stats do you get from field test
@AndrewOnYoutube 3 ай бұрын
Guy, you are so Cool I trigger Kinetic Tremors often with this gun
@scareDcrow305 3 ай бұрын
Everyone keeps saying to stay away from attrition orbs but i actually want to try it out on this gun in particular. With this archetype i imagine it to be an orb printing machine in pve! Awesome review, will try out kinetic tremors for sure🙌🏼
@SlimyUrchin56 3 ай бұрын
Im glad i was right about UO and KT. That roll caught my eye for PvE as a workhorse primary, but I didn't think about it for PVP
@nickg8100 3 ай бұрын
CoolGuy. With the new sandbox changes should I be running a primary and special in PvP? I’ve been running a dual primary loadout
@jacobruiter592 3 ай бұрын
Don't run special. In my experience in 6v6, top of the board, lots of objective play, I was only able to get 6 ammo past the initial 2 you are given. That is so incredibly bad.
@MonKD2 3 ай бұрын
My first drop was rangefinder/frenzy with accurized rounds and range mw. Used it for two games and was very impressed. Frenzy is up almost always and it just feels good. Was pretty worried Bungje was going to tank this one but very nice return to form with some cool new perks.
@Kalatash 3 ай бұрын
Very first one I got to drop was Dynamic Sway / Kinetic Tremors. Unfortunately, no range in barrels or magazine but I might just try it out to see if I like the combo.
@saltypirate-vs6bt 3 ай бұрын
Honey wake up the new coolguy videos out
@AZT791 3 ай бұрын
I was just thinking about hard light can you make a video on it pls
@DANG3RMAU5 3 ай бұрын
what about the prolonged engagement with milti kill clip and killing wind??
@sethallred8255 3 ай бұрын
I've got that under/over and kinetic tremors role and it feels so good no matter where I take it.
@ProtoMario 3 ай бұрын
Got it my third match
@mojomanmurph1925 2 ай бұрын
Ran across a guy in Rumble that was literally running around and slaying with it. No one could get a bead on him. Once you saw him, you died then he was gone to find his next victim.
@Matanlimer 3 ай бұрын
The sad thing is, I don't think any of the modern rolls actually compete with the old KW\KC roll in terms of raw power. Still, It's nice to have more options.
@alexchavez4897 3 ай бұрын
Hey coolguy! Can you do a breakdown of gutshot straight in the new sandbox?
@svahn1 3 ай бұрын
I still have an old roll with KW/KC too. It goes to 75 range when the perk is up. Might have to dust it off while I'm grinding for a new one.
@AceInTheSpade 3 ай бұрын
Highly recommend checking out Attrition Orbs with Kinetic Tremors for PVE. Makes this thing an orb making machine.
@davidennis9623 3 ай бұрын
I wonder about maybe using under over/kinetic tremors as a rift breaker
@TheRealGotham 2 ай бұрын
my final engram focus was a smallbore, tac mag, under over and tremors with a range mw. range at 46 and 50 stab. My best range one (64 range) has rangefinder and kill clip
@ryanballentine138 3 ай бұрын
Glad I still have the Kw/Kc roll with model 8 you showed. Honestly imo clears the new multimach
@davidpalas7398 3 ай бұрын
Dang it. I was not going to play Iron Banner at all this week and now I want this SMG with a roll similar to the one in the video.
@Strategicxx 3 ай бұрын
Get started. It’s a hella grind
@dylanmiller1140 3 ай бұрын
Got under over And KT. Really excited to give it a go in the current sandbox and have an SMG that’s designed to do something different compared to my other options m
@alecnardone3309 2 ай бұрын
I love that killing wind kill clip roll with that sight. I tried the reprised version and just didn’t feel the same
@Scrappy0794 3 ай бұрын
I got one with under over target lock (my only drop so far) my biggest issue with it is I have terrible aim and can’t hit my shots lol
@Mikoto_Suou 3 ай бұрын
I went for Iron gaze and iron reach just because they'll both be enhancable in TFS and I wanna see if that helps the stat penalties
@scudigaming1755 3 ай бұрын
So happy I don't delete it rolls. I have one with under over 😅
@Surrealiantx 3 ай бұрын
Really need to get a solid roll on this. I wish the drop rate was a tad higher!
@Kellzdevon95 3 ай бұрын
Cool guy you literally have the same og roll I have for multi Mac except instead of accurized I have tactical mag and a range master work. I was hurt I didn't get the accurized rounds 😢 back then
@ericbaek3706 3 ай бұрын
Even though I'm on mnk, I want to try the dynamic sway and tap the trigger. I know people tell me to get iron reach but, I want to try it in pvp and pve. I still need good stability.
@alextokmakoff6521 3 ай бұрын
I have a 16 zoom escape velocity and man that thing feels good too
@hellsing1983 3 ай бұрын
An under over, kill clip roll dropped for me and I really noticed how it performed against titans. And I was thinking of your theory about kinetic tremors. People seem to underrate that perk for pvp and think it's a pve perk. I still need to get a version with kinetic tremors.
@tigab16 3 ай бұрын
Got my hunter deleted few months ago with my multimach on it. Model 8, accurize, dynamic sway, iron grip and range MW. I need to get one back😢
@DemonAbumi 3 ай бұрын
great video as always
@paulhinterberger7438 2 ай бұрын
It took me 83 IB matches (with turning in engrams in between) to get the Tusk to drop so I could start focusing
@KerzyMonkey 3 ай бұрын
I got an over under / kinetic tremors and I like it in pve but never thought to try it in pvp.
@seb1520 2 ай бұрын
its funny how this SMG now has a sleeper perk that works for it that people generally didnt like, like how Target Lock became insane on SMG's only up until people realized its potential when it was on Immortal. Now Kinetic Tremors may be that next thing, although not as overpowered
@squalltownz4613 3 ай бұрын
What about a zoom of 17 on a sub machine gun is that ok?
@Hofey 3 ай бұрын
Range finder with make range kill clip is what I’m looking for. The extra accuracy and assist fall of with range finder is so good. I’m positive I can handle the lower stability.
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