The discrepancies between Chinese historical sources (Shiji - 94 BCE & Hanshu - 111 CE) and Vietnamese sources are very interesting (Đại Việt sử ký toàn thư - 1479 CE). Which one you you think is more reliable? The Chinese version that’s written closer to the time the events took place or the local Vietnamese history written 1500 years later?

Very interesting materials and great animations, I especially love how you got the Han period armors right, you've gained a new sub my good sir.

I am Chinese my family came from Henan. second generation American. My ancestry DNA from two different test results shows I have 60% Vietnamese in me, but only 30% Han-Chinese. I am shocked that I didn’t inherit the doubled lidded eyes. :(

I have always been quite curious about Nanyue since I knew it in my adolescence. Zhao Tuo was certainly a legend. And I know more about his kingdom. It was after all the tension between two cultures embedded in its DNA that eventually brought about its downfall. This is really an underrated channel. Also, the video is conscious of history bias based on nationalism. Looking forward to watching more of your videos on East Asian history!

I liked this very much. The Narration was awesome, well done gentlemen!

If anyone visits Guangzhou, I highly recommend the Nanyue King Mausoleum Museum which is the gravesite of Zhang Mo (175-124 BCE) the grandson and successor to Zhang Tuo. It shows a great number of artifacts and culture of the Nanyue at its height along with Zhang Mo's mausoleum, many court seals (chops), his jade burial shroud, and a few fragments of his skull.

Liu Bang is such a troll of a person it's like if Han Solo became the emperor of the galaxy when he was still a scoundrel, before he met Luke.

I apppreciate that you put the Vietnamese names in it. Thank you from Vietnam

Kinh Vietnamese are not related to Han Chinese. But some Southern Chinese are related due to common ancestory of Bai Yue/ Bach Viet tribes. Cantonese for example are a mix of Han (Qin Dynasty) and Yue tribes. Kinh Vietnamese are admixture of two Bai Yue/ Bach Viet tribes that used to live in Southern China. The Ou Yue/ Au Viet and Luo Yue/ Lac Viet. More likely mix between Tai-Kadai/ Kra-Dai and Austroasiatic speaking people.

Early Chinese records used the term Yue to describe the non-Chinese people south of the Yangzi. In the Spring and Autumn period (770- 475 BC) the term was applied to a state on the south-eastern coast which was destroyed in 334 BC as the Han Chinese moved across the Yangzi into the south. Subsequently, the term “hundred Yue” was applied generically to the subjugated peoples in the south, with modifiers to denote groups in different locations or with some other distinguishing characteristic (Phornphan 1988). The term Yue fades from usage around 0 AD as the Chinese gained more knowledge of the southern peoples and began using other descriptors (Barlow 2001, chs. 1-2; Taylor 1983, 41-4). None of the modern terms used for Tai groups can be detected in these descriptors except Lao or Ailao which was applied to a variety of groups, mostly hill-dwellers (Taylor 1983, 172; Cholthira 2001, 22-4).

I watched a lot of history channel, this honestly is the best. Good work!

I know this channel is mostly about nations in relation to China but i am very curious about the various Dynasty Vietnam went through and also how they broke free of Han rule, or at least the northern part.

It's a strange triangle. Viet is able to defeat Mongo and Chinese are rules by the Mongo.

Finally an Asian narrating Historical stuff in English! Thanks from an English speaking Chinese

Great series! I had a question about Empress Dowager Dou, Han Wudi's grandmother. How was she able to block Han Wudi after he became emperor from enacting his reforms? In the video, it is mentioned he had to wait until she died before he could really take full control. I was curious to know more about this, I haven't really been able to find anything online as to how she was able to do this or a good explanation of her role and what power she had. Keep up the great work!

Yeah, another good video. Good work Brah.

Good job video!! from Vietnam 🇻🇳

I just wanted to say how much I enjoy your channel and videos. You present history in a lively and entertaining way, and the art work is gorgeous ( great character designs by the way) and you have a very pleasant voice and a friendly good natured sense of humor. Please, keep making more of these wonderful videos my Bro'! Much love from Macon Georgia.U.S.A.

Damn ur clips never fails to bring out the nationalists. One thing I’ve learnt from watching your content and reading the comments is that nationalists like to make up history as they go. The ancient dynamics between these groups were complex and loyalties were fluid. Well done on condensing so much historical information into such an enjoyable format.

Love your videos! It’s great to learn about this as my ancestry.

Thanks for the well researched video keep it up! Interesting history between the 2 culture of Han and viet , a Han general abandoned his country to rule the Viet and ve apart of the viet custom mixed along with his han influence. Also this period is when the Chinese language first start to influence people who live in north of vietnam and Guangdong area , i believe the Viet language at this time is still pure without Chinese influence yet.

Trying to assign modern nationalist identities to kingdoms 2000 years ago is usually very difficult. If you think about Europe, there wasn't anything close to 'England' at this time. Most of southern China at this time would form the basis for the groups in SEA today, like Burma, Thailand, Vietnam and Austronesians.

Very informative and interesting video~ 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

Great video.

Would love to see you make videos about 外王内帝 policy!

So interesting!!!! :>>

Awesome content. I was wondering what animation software do you use? thank you.

❤ thank for video, we are want to many people know about my history more

Many southeast Asian historians believe that Ailao or "aye-lao" was the ancestor of Lao - Tai people

Another good video. Are you gonna do one on the Trung Sisters?

👍 good video

It's strange to see some foreigners say that China is Vietnam's father. It seems to me that they are completely different and have no relationship at all.

4:25 Nice breathing animation.

One of the best History KZfaq Channels (esply about East Asia countries’s) but why there are not many people subcribe your channel. That’s underrated!

Amazing

Was watching mainland chinese videos of this period. I think one of the speakers said that zhao tuo was actually very pro Han. However its the nanyue elites that wanted to keep their own culture. They said that Zhao Tuo wanted to join the Han dynasty under Liu Bang but both the Han and Nanyue elites were against it. The nanyue did not want to be assimilated while the Han elites were worried that the Nanyue being southerners would work with their fellow southerner Chu state.

so interesting how some of the baiyue people from southern china/ north vietnam, were relocated to fukian province. many of the chinese who had settled in Vietnam were Fukian, and also many of the Chinese who left as refugees were this particular ethnicity of han.

Thanks for your video! Good work!

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The first Chinese domination in Vietnam is from Nanyue. In the ancient times, Au Lac tribe and Van Lang tribe were merged into Au Lac Kingdom. Then it was succumbed in to Nanyue by Zhao Tuo, a Chinese person. So the war between Han and Nanyue is the war between two Chinese Kingdom, not for dominating Vietnam

Liked, Can you make a video about the white lotus society of China?I think you're really good at covering topics and this one is quite interesting.Thanks

Finally the Ai Lao ppl are represented Ai Lao is the Lao people of Laos today and the ancestors of all the Tai peoples

Where's the second part? Please?

Thanks your video 😍 from Vietnam

Cool history: The Nan Yue/ Nam Viet is not recognized as Vietnam, and that is the reason why Vietnam is Vietnam instead of Namviet, when that local tributary which becomes Vietnam today ask for a official name, the government at Beijing rejected the request of "Namviet", because Viet/Yue is the South-Eastern coast line region of China, which was the Wu and Yue kingdom during the Spring and Autumn and Warring States period (Wu and Yue are the same people, they speak ancient Yue language, which evolved in to modern Wu dialect of China, and a part of Japanese language called "Go-on", Go is Wu pronounced in Kun'yomi, Kun'yomi is pronunciation of native Japanese language even if the word is adopted from Chinese, On'yomi is Chinese pronunciation of 7th-9th century Han dialect mandarin, and Go-on is different from common Kan-on, Kan is Han pronounced in Japanese accent, the Go-on was dialect of 5th century Nanjing of WuYue region, at 5th century Buddhism was very popular so Go-on is more popular than Kan-on when reading Japanese sutra adopted from Chinese at 5th century). So here is the thing, Namviet/Nan Yue already exist, it's literally the Chinese word "South Yue", and this means southern part of Yue, Wu and Yue is now days Zhejiang and Jiangsu province, around Nanjing and Shanghai, while that tributary was even way further to the south, out side of Yue, so it's named Vietnam/Yue Nan, which means Yue South, and this means "South of Yue", the difference is South Yue="Southern part in Yue", Yue South = "At Southern side out of Yue"

Âu Lạc was form out of two Baiyue tribes, the Luoyue (Lạc Việt) and Ouyue (Âu Việt). Can you do more about the Baiyue?

I like that map. Where can i download?

Thank you so much!!! We are Vietnamese.😘😘😘

thanks .im from Vietnam's

So we can say that Zhao Tuo is the founder of Southern Chinese Civilization?

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When ancient sources refer to moving entire peoples, they always refer to moving just the elites, leaving the majority in place. The common people simply didn’t count. They were viewed as little more than livestock. A western example would be the Babylonian captivity of the Israelites. Although the Bible appears to say that all the Israelites were taken, in reality, it was just the upper priestly caste and the nobility. The majority of the population remained.

we cantonese people look closer to Vietnamese than the northern chinese and thats a fact

Can you please do history video on the tay son dynasty.

My peoples resisting Chinese aggression, “in many cases as in 221 BC, “the Yüeh people fled into the depths of the mountains and forests, and it was not possible to fight them” (Taylor 1983, 18, quoting the Huai nan tzu). As the Chinese consolidated control along the coast, those resisting integration moved away into the interior, particularly into the high valleys among the mountains in an arc running west and south from Nanning around the rear of the Red River delta. The Chinese gradually set up garrisons and provincial administrations in the hills to control these peoples, but faced constant resistance. In 722, for example, some 400,000 “Lao” and “Nan Yue” rose in revolt, and the leader declared himself king of Nan Yue (Taylor 1983, 178, 192-3). From the sixth century onwards, the Chinese coastal settlements occasionally called on help from imperial armies to conduct pacification campaigns on this hill frontier. After the 722 revolt, some 60,000 were beheaded. In a pacification campaign in the ninth century, designed to secure the route through to the Nanchao kingdom in Yunnan, the imperial armies beheaded 30,000 rebels in the course of a bloody campaign (Taylor 1983, 239-49).”

Chinese rule of Vietnamese could be compared to northern Germanic (Scandinavian) rule of Slavic people in the early days. They played an important part in founding Kievan Rus', yet today Russians and Swedish are different. An analogy of more assimilation may be made to Czechs with Germans compared to Southern Chinese (e.g. Cantonese speaking) with Huaxia Chinese. The Czech is one of the most Germanized Slavic group, and their political entity was always part of the Holy Roman Empire; while Cantonese-speaking people could be a Baiyue group that became very Chinese over time.

Damn bro this is why vietnamese n cantonese sound so fucking similar. We used be to related, but now the southern area is a part of China and Vnese people were able to fight for their own identity. Just imagine a world that Cantonese speaking area is a whole country, not a part of china.

Proper research. Awesome work

Read history of vietnam on (Su viet toan thu).

Austroasiatic (5,000 BC) > Mon-Khmer (3,000 BC) > Vietic-Khmuic (2,000 BC) > Vietic (1,000 BC) > Dongsonian/ Lac Viet (700 BC-200 AD)> Viet-Muong (200 AD-700 AD) > Vietnamese (700 - Moderns) Charter based on archaeological and linguistic evidence.

I subscribed today, this is a cool channel. I listen to The History of China podcast, it would be cool if you and him could do something together.

Can you make a video on the genpei war?

wow! nice! plz show the chinese characters to the names pf ppl and places.

Baiyue or A hundred Viet tribes!! Down to the last Yue people.. modern Vietnam! And the Chinese haven’t abandoned their ambitions.. sooner or later us Vietnamese must make a stand against them again.. Long live the Yues!!!... ever still victorious and standing strong the Viets!!!.

Nanyue ( Chinese :南越[1] or 南粤[2] ; pinyin : Nányuè ; Jyutping : Naam⁴-jyut⁶ ; lit. ' Southern Yue' [3] ) or Namz Yied ( Zhuang : Namzyied ), was an ancient kingdom. ruled by the Chinese

Most historians like Benedict Kiernan chose 179 BC as the start point of Chinese colonial rules in Vietnam

6:40 Early Northern Chinese colonialism is pretty interesting.

Badass Minyue

love your vids! Btw how did you find out about the hairstyle of Zhao Tuo? Are there any images?

I am curious about the Central Plain Chinese that were sent to Nanyue by Qin Shi Huang. 500 k people were A LOT considering the local population at the time. Why aren't Cantonese look Central Plain people? Were these prisoners in fact Chu soldiers captured by Qin?

The Vietnamese is an evidence, the so-called Han are of the same people ?? They can share culture and Han characters, but I have never considered Han a nation. To be fair, the south of China is always considered more developed than the north of China, so there is no reason why Han-Chinese culture originated in the North.

Great video CJ, question, you mentioned morfologic similarities between the people of south of China, and one of those similiarities were black teeth... did they paint their teeth? Or they were so rotten that got black?

It is good to see a chinese person do this because I feel you would know or understand your history and culture deeply, not to insult other people. Anyway, this explains why when I worked with northern chinese, they refused to acknowledge the southern states you mentioned as Chinese. Amongst themselves they called these people dogs (I didn't know until this guy I work with who knows Chinese explained it to me). I was very surprise but can see why after you explained it because they did not consider them Han.

Việt nam chúng tôi

It wasn't really the Vietnam now days, it didn't really exist yet, the 百越 Baiyue in this part of history includes multiple ethnic groups at south of Yangzi river and northern Vietnam , but it does include ancestors of Gin/Kinh people which now exist as a main part of Vietnamese population.

And even today many Vietnamese have resentment for mainland Chinese

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Han Dynasty Shu Wu and Wei + Jin

哈哈哈哈 sorry，i recognize the Kwongsai Bak wah 廣西白話 similarities in Vietnamese but common knowledge that the Viet and 兩廣 still share ancient distant ties

There're wars in the comment section already. :))))))) Vietnamese has their own perspective and the same can be said to Chinese, so none of the claim can be consider correct, right ?

What is nam viet instead of nan yue? Are you trying to mislead that they are link to modern Vietnam.

finally someone in youtube mention about "ailao". it almost feel like it will be gone forever. but that pronunciation of "ailao" just make commit suicide.

nanyue explains why Cantonese sounds so much like vietnamese

Nanyue

Can you do a video in the hmong Miao people?

After nanyue kingdom disappear, where the cantonese from and why they could not claim themselves origin?

Au Lac people support Nanyue , they consider Nanyue their own country. It seems Zhao Tuo had won the hearts of Baiyue people, including Au Lac people. He united them and took in the local culture despite of his origin. I think he's a good leader so it's understandable why the collapse of Nanyue marked the start of Northern domination in Vietnam history. What if Zhao Tuo had chosen the same method of conquering as Han Wudi? What if he forced Han culture on Baiyue people? I think history would change drasticallly. Maybe Vietnam wouldn't have existed but became a part of China as Southern China... Vietnam is always looked down by so called "civilzed" people surrouding it. It's like an easy kid to pick on, a cheap shot of sedative to those, whenever they feel inferior, they look at Vietnam, they laugh at it without a reason, and they feel good about themselve. once again. Eventually, the world will never be the same :-)

I saw three states to the south; Yelang, Dian, and Ailao. Shouldn't they be part of the Nanman instead of the Baiyue?

Old geezer lu jia has so many tattoos

Hainanese sounds similar to vietnamese but I could be wrong.

Fight for your people freedom nanyue peoples, fight for your independent like the Vietnamese did, good luck

The original Vietnamese are a mixture of Han Chinese, Tai/Kradai, Miao/Hmong and so on, from Southern China. Baiyue was just a name for tribes in the south of Central China that the Central Chinese (Zhongyuan people) called before the Qin dynasty. Luoyue (Lac Viet) was just a tribe back then and they were conquered by another tribe, Ouyue (Au Viet); hence, there was Ouyue-Luoyue confederation (Au Lac). The first ever kingdom under which Vietnamese were and half of modern Vietnamese consider as their first country is the kingdom of Nanyue, a Chinese kingdom founded by Zhao Tuo, a northern Chinese from the state of Zhao after the collapse of the Qin empire. They might have some mixture with some local tribes in mid-northern Vietnam. Later on these Vietnamese moved south and annexed kingdoms/city-states of the Cham and Khmer. The reason is the Cham (probably a mixture of Malay, Khmer and traders of different origins including Chinese) attacked them first for centuries under the Tang dynasty and looted their settlements during periods of food shortages and economic crisis (because the economy of Cham's city-states was based on commerce and not on agriculture). This is reflected in their modern DNAs, which show 2/3 of Vietnamese are from the mixture of peoples from Southern China and 1/3 is Cham and Khmer. Many Vietnamese claim they all are different from Chinese because of political motivation, independence, and/or their Cham and Khmer ancestry, but this is not reflected in history and the DNAs of the whole population of Vietnamese. The political turmoil after the Tang dynasty and the movement of Vietnamese/Southern Chinese to the south by incorporating Cham and Khmer to end the century wars with Cham and Khmer marked Vietnam's separation from China. One interesting fact is Vietnamese spoken language (Vietic language) is grouped with Khmer in the Austro-Asiatic languages, despite 2/3 of their language vocabularies that they said they 'borrowed' from Chinese languages are actually both Southern and Northern Chinese languages (Example: Zhao Tuo, the founder of Nanyue kingdom, is a Northern Chinese from the state of Zhao). This might be shaped by mixture of peoples and geological reasons (mother tone for a variety of food, plant and animal names that do not exist in the north). The Vietnamese spoken language reflects the trend of mixture between Southern Chinese and Cham and Khmer throughout their history.

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Second one?

I have double eyelids, what does this mean? and my DNA test is 44% viet, 26 percent Thai Khmer, 25 percent southern Chinese, 8 percent Dai

Will you do one about Lý Thường Kiệt,the first Vietnamese General who led an attack into Chinese territory?

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Ahahahaha @ that conniving bad guy noise

I like to think of us Southern Chinese as 'Children of Zhao Tuo', just like the Eldians are 'Children of Ymir'.