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flip those fans around for a PULL config.......The fans are probobly peaking out on static pressure in PUSH mode.

This channel reminds me a lot of Jayztwocents early days. I Think the 3d printing of custom hardware is a really cool spin. I think you have a lot of potential. Keep up the good work!

Glad to see you seem to be having so much fun with that 3D printer haha And yes, thank you for changing your mic! I was watching one of your recent videos yesterday and there was a lot of cracking in the audio.

Would've been interesting to see how the temperature differences would be with equalized loudness.

Your sound is 10/10 now. And your backdrop frames you and your project very nicely. Most professional look and sound yet. I like seeing this channel grow.

I dont understand how people can dislike your videos. You do great projects and test the coolest ideas. Keep it up!💪

I love these videos! pointless for real world application, but super interesting! keep up the great work Major! - A big fan!

Major i love you. Ive been binge watching pretty much all your vids. Now that i got a CM500 i want to put the radiator in the front. You come to the rescue again

This is one Hell of a Great video. This is why I watch this Tech Channel.

you should include some sort of spiral on the inside of the funnel, just like air ducts do, to accellerate airflow

This makes me remember an old PC I had with a lateral 240mm fan on the case. I had it cooling the CPU with a Coolermaster Gemini and a shroud. This was performing better than the Noctua tower I tried before and was very quiet. Well very quiet by 2008 standard. In this age of 3D printing and CAD I'd love to see more custom shroud and huge and slow fans.

My favorite ltt vids are the ones where they try crazy things like the sketchy heat sink series. So the fact that most videos on this channel are like those means I'll be sticking around. :)

I love this channel just for the crazy tests ❤️

Instead of ducting down the openings to the 140mm size make the bottom a fully open shroud like a car radiator. That's where your performance decreases are coming from.

Now that you've got your fancy new 3D printer, I'd love to see a custom case for those 200mm fans. The front/back (or left/right) would just be a single 200mm fan, pushing air through the entirety of the case. Would be a cool mini-ITX build and it would be interesting to see why kind of temperatures you'd get just from airflow.

I have wondered about this type of set up for a while. I suspect that cooling improves with the 200mm fan because the dead spot behind the fan hub gets better air flow. I also expect that (with the duct and 200mm fans) the air flow over the rad fins is less turbulent, having more of a boundary layer and that reduces the cooling. Less turbulence probably also makes it is quieter. It might be an interesting comparison to make a 120mm to 120mm duct the same length as the 200mm to 120mm duct and see what effect it has. Which of the two set-ups from this video will it be more similar to?

You should make a one piece adapter for the two 200mm fans

This is an awesome video! Good job. :D

Cool video! The coolest thing would be your own 3D printed case that focuses on great airflow. Or maybe you take a nice-looking but cheap case and mod it to be pro. Keep it up!

I managed to squeeze one of those 200mm Noctuas into an Aerocool mATX case. It worked beautifully.

This guy is genuine.

Just started the vid and already gave it a thumbs up!

This is the kinda video I've been wanting to see

In my H500P (with a mesh front) I have a 400mm radiator in the front, (200mm x 2) and four 200mm fans on it in push pull, two of which are the A20s. They are great, and yes, super quiet.

"It's a lot of brown." - Noctua 2019

I have 4 of these on my Mo-ra 3 420 and also some nf-a12x25 in the case :) Actually it's pretty nice to have an overclocked PC drawing 500W during gaming and still being the same quiet as during idle.

funny intro :) I see you are getting a good use of that 3d printer ^_^

I have NZXT case I use for my home server that has dual 180s on the top but has the ability to run 3 120s as well. I have been running a 360 rad on top of it for ever with the dual 180s (rad under the top tray and fans on top of tray under the top cover). The loudest part of the whole system is the water res sloshing or the HDDs when they start up. It's weird but it works.

When you got the 3D Printer I knew you was going to do some mad shit, loving it dude. Also think the new mic is nice and is better just old one sounded a tad louder, maybe just me tho.

I still remember the cpu versions, fan adapter tests revealed it didn't do much but that was for over clocking not silence.

You should also do a double fan push/pull setup test, with the 120's on one side of the rad and the 200's on the other, if you haven't already.

I am using 2 of those in CM H500 and they are just perfect! Compared to 3x120mm in front, they are suuuuper quiet. Had to drill new holes on the case tho...

i can't believe you never lost a finger, waving your hands around them while running. i had one of those tip over while testing, it was like the end of the world haha

Amazing!

Sweet idea! Been wondering about how well something like this would work for a while. I wonder if this gizmo causes a Venturi effect which could hypothetically be used to induce airflow through parts of a chassis that would otherwise have poor airflow (from negative pressure created).

Best use case for the 200mm fans is the "Watercool Mo-Ra3 420" radiator externally.

theres a lot that goes into the shape and length of those cones to optimise the fans for the pressures they produce. they can only produce so much airflow if they have to put it through a ping pong sized hole (relatively speaking)

I bet using a 280mm radiator with the 200mm fans would be the best setup if you wanted to squeeze it in a build because you wouldn't have to "squish" or adjust their airflow so much, and a build that could accommodate the 280mm radiator would have a much better shot of accommodating the fans anyways.. just something to consider if you stick it in a build one day :) I love your content mate and am looking forward to more!

i like your case!

Richard! Big fans on a little radiator

Interesting idea, completely crazy lol I love that kind of stuff. A good push pull config with (good) cheap fans would probably do as well (ignoring noise). For people who haven’t been into water cooling for well over a decade like me, there is a point of diminishing returns where all the air flow in the world won’t improve your temps. It comes to a point where the difference is negligible and you’re better off saving your money.

3D printing custom parts screams personalization. I like it.

Cool idea! Fwiw EK make a 180x360mm rad, presumably for Silverstone's air penetrator fans. with a 3d printed bracket this could offer some interesting new cooling options for CM H500 owners. Although that said, if you're not fussed about RGB and PWM you could just make a 200mm to 180mm bracket and user 180mm air penetrators instead, they're seriously good fans, although rather loud at full speed

Wish I had a 3d printer back when I was installing my water cooling system. I got tired of the heat building up in my office when loading up the computer, so I put a 2x3 in my window with 2 copper pipes passed through the wood and secured the window down onto the wood and secured the window with wood dowel rods. Then outside I mounted a bracket with a transmission copper aux cooler which is plumbed to those copper pipes on the wood in the window. on the Inside side of the wood I have quick connects that I plugged my PC into with flexible waterline and mounted the switch to the fan on the aux cooler under the surface of my desk. For now I turn it on manually via the switch, but eventually I want to temperature control actuate it, but when I am in the office the system has enough cooling running idle or basic task like web browsing without the aux cooler fan on due to the remaining radiators in the case, but when I game or load up the system, I flip the switch and it immediately drops the loop temp even with outside temps around 100F here in Florida. This setup drastically reduced the heat dumped into my office now.

OK so I have been watching your channel for awhile. After this I have to subscribe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I wish noctua would make a pressure optimized version of the 200mm fan. I know it isnt as simple as scaling up the 120mm fan. But I am making a setup that has spots for 3x 200mm fans. And pressure optimized would be fantastic.

I've been looking for that kind of adapter for ages. It never once occured to me that it could just be 3D printed

Badass fans!

Idea: duct 120mm fan. When doing my own research about fans it is always recommended some sort of ducting. It frustrates me that fan manufactures don't just make wider housing if it's so effective. I don't have a 3D printer and I'm too cheap to buy cheap 120 fans just for the housing. Since your asking for suggestions I'd like to see if making a duct for the 120's will show improvement. Also like the other guy suggested make the rad side of the duct more square. Thanks you for your videos

I have an old af Coolermaster HAF X and I run 3 of those noctua 200mm fans it in and they are well worth the price

I had an ABS Diablo case years ago with a 360mm In the side panel. It was a 5v fan and I accidentally put 12v to it and it caught on fire lol

let's give this guy a Silver Play Button!

new mic sounds good!!! edit: i have an AeroCool 500 case, its a cheapy with good airflow, a set up like that could mount on the outside the case on top!!! The rad can even go inside and longer screws will hold the entire jig together... Just a thought eh... no idea how classy that would look

There is a test nobody had ever do, NF-F12 (not ipcc) vs NF-A12x25, I'm interested with the radiator perfomance, but you can test also with aircooling. Noctua has released their test at A12 launch but nobody made a real comaprison.

Whoa, you pulled that shroud right out of your monitor! I am curious what it would do on an air cooler!?

sounds much better

hey ive got a case with two 200mm fan mounts in my attic.... thanks NZXT

I'd put the A4's in a case and the radiator in the middle of them but about 50mm away, this will compensate for the dead air created by the motor in the centre of the fans and will allow for air to move around the outside of the radiator which will help remove heat...If I was to do another case build I would use these fans. Silent but with excellent air flow!

Wow awesome job on this video mate, your production quality is going waaaayyy up. Really great!!!

What a great start to a video! And do a push-pull with those Big Mofo's and a 120mm radiator please and thank you

"You might be thinking, why exactly, would you do this?" BECAUSE I CAN!!!!

Something like the NZXT h510 series has enough clearance where to the right of the board however you went too basic, a single 90 degree bend wouldn't alter airflow much but would allow for a front mount fan to intake and push through a radiator.

An idea for a follow up: try adding some fins in the print. I think the static preassure of fans is higher if it's mounted directly on a rad If the air can spinn around it will. Some added "fins" should/could then force the air and direct its momentum in the right direction.. I don't even think the fins need to go all the way and reach the radiator. The increased preassure must travel that way anyway.

When I first saw these fans my mind immediately raced to a bizarre mini-ITX case design I had in my head... Basically imagine a small vertically oriented case with a central plate to mount the motherboard to. A long PCI-X extension cable is used to mount the graphics card to the opposite side of the motherboard mounting plate. An SFX-L power supply mounts below this arrangement, with a section at the front of the case dedicated to a 280 mm radiator. One of these 200 mm fans is bolted to either side; One above the motherboard, the other above the graphics card. The radiator has ducting so that it has it's own unique airflow path with front intake fans directing air into the duct which then directs it through the radiator, with an optional set of extraction fans on the radiator itself... Probably completely insane... But it works in my head somehow... XD

Awesome project. You should try the phobya 200mm radiator, or the cooler master H500p mesh with dual 200mm fan support ;)

I'm trying to build a diy ac from an ice cooler. I found a few designs, some use a radiator, some connect a marine blow fan to a duct. I think if I can find a way to connect a powerful cfm fan but without the overhead of all the bulky stuff of inline duct fans and connect it to a 3" semi ridid duct running through a cooler. Maybe with a small radiator cooled by a small water pump. How did you get those plastic connectors? I think I need something similar that can go from a fan to a duct...

You need to get silverstone ap182 fans to test with similar config alot more static preasure, well louder too but you need preasure to get effency. I got 3 of em in 3x180 rad, other then there is no case to fit the monster in its really good

Wonder how they both would do in a pull orientation

Nice results. I'm attempting to do something similar but the size of the set's of fans are smaller - I'm going from 2 x 120 to hopefully 2 x 160 using a 120 to 140 adapter plate. The 160 fans have 140 mounting - so if I go from 120 to 140 with the adapters then the 160 fans should mount : as long as the 160 fans fit inside my case.

I kinda wanna see the big fans used for a fan showdown challenge. It would be interesting what designs people think up for a bigger fan platform

You should try to make an acrylic pc case for your 200mm fans and pc.. Use a Tint/paint for the Fan's this way you could make it the way you want to make it. Just a suggest.

i also saw a comment of a push pull config. i would like to see a push pull set up of various set up of this. minis on one side and the huge fans on the other

I've always wondered if one of these but much longer would be effective, so the pressure increase happens gradually.

Given how bad 200mm is at static pressure, I expected the final result. But would have been interested in seeing them in a pull configuration just to see if the reducer helped pulling.

That's cool idea which dislodged another idea from my 3 brain cells. Imagine a manifold designed to cool two radiators (have one for cpu and one for gpu) like I have. I wouldn't mind losing a few c for the simplicity, coolness "factor", and quietness of couple 200mm fans.

That shotgun mic now sounds great

You should try adding all 4 fans together. Would be interesting to see thermals if you did that.

Have you tested sc 600 chinese pump? It comes with those sub 100 $ chinese open loop kits from aliexpress and it has similar specs to DDC. Also sc 800 is similar to D5. Love your videos man, you are bringing new life into pc building community

Now you only need to put those 1m industrial fans in a small rad to see how it performs.

This is the ultimate "I wonder what would happen if..." channel.

I am glad that I found your video. I was looking at Raijintek Silenos case that have 200mm fans for the front, but it doesn't take the 400mm radiator. The biggest radiator that it can hold is the 360 because it mounts to the front of case I would mod up a shroud for the fans to meet the 360 rad. Would you do a push-pull set up in this case?

In terms of large fans, you'll get far better performance if you try this with some Silverstone Air Penetrators. Noctua is fab, but their 200mm is designed around low noise and airflow, with poor static pressure. APs were used in their Mammoth 01 case to yank air through a HEPA filter, so they should have the requisite static pressure.

Can you run them faster with more voltage or something for more performance

2 x 200 mm Noctuas in exhaust config (back and front) plus 2 x 120 mm Noctuas for intake , one for each of the CPU and GPU. Could use mini ITX board and a PCI riser cable to mount GPU and CPU on opposite sides (compartments) of case, with negative pressure creating a vacuum effect that sucks air into the case and blasts hottest components with it. If negative pressure theory turns out to be rubbish, you could switch one of the 200 mm to intake config for a more traditional positive pressure approach. I'm imagining a ~210 mm X ~210 mm X ~360 mm case, about 16 L. ITX... so hot right now.

You should get a digital manometer, and start recording vacuum and pressures from push/pull setups on everything to get data on if there is and how much the limits to things are when it comes to amount of air flow.

Have you tried making an air duct that starts at the front of the case flows the CPU and out to the back to see if it would cool any better?

use coolermaster 200m fans they spin at 1200rpm i dont even hear them and put in a pull config great video you test the late night thoughts about computers we all have

we need a video on 2x200mm radiators with these fans

Fairly certain this should work better with the fans in a pull configuration. I can't exactly test it since I don't have a similar setup, but I'm fairly certain it should. Dunno how much tho.

I was always dreaming of doing something similar to my older GPU.. KZfaq knew I'd like your video, and it's right! (*Subscribes)

Sound from the shotgun mic is much cleaner then the first one.

140mm fans are the most balanced and reasonable choice to balance static pressure, air flow rate, and noise level. Also worth noting that even the cases that do support 200mm fans.. there’s inconsistencies in the hole spacing from one manufacturer to another. 120 and 140 super standardized so you don’t have this risk of “jank dank” issues with 140’s.

Here's an idea for you to try - I have always wondered if you could make ducting from your intake fans on the front of the case directly to your CPU cooler and GPU? Maybe set up one 120mm at the front with a duct that leads directly to the CPU cooler (it would have to be a tower cooler - like a hyper 212) and a duct from the CPU cooler to the rear exhaust fan. You could then set up ducting from the other 2 x 120mm fans in the front directly to the GPU fans. Not sure if it would work, plus you may have issues cooling the VRM's, RAM etc... but it would be cool to see

New "set" layout could use some more depth. It looks very squished and flat.

For a fair sound comparison, you should have made spacers for the 120s of the same thickness as the adapters for the 200s so that they're the same distance from the radiator fins.

I'm wondering if one single shroad to hold both fans would improve airflow. There would be no restriction from the shroud material at the centre of the rad.

I'm going to buy these to actively cool myself 🤣

what about the 200mm fans in pull config? also, funnel design might affect fluid dynamics.

may or may not be relevant but i had a cooler master HAF-X full tower case with a 200mm side 230 front and dual 200mm on the top. i managed to make my 280mm aio fit by just drilling some new mounting holes. i had my 140s pushing air up thru the radiator mounted to the chassis while the 200mm fans sat above the chassis where they are by default so the top of the case still fit. My thermals were amazing dont think i ever hit 70 degrees with my old fx 8350 or my 7700k over clocked to 5ghz. i cant confirm if a push pull with all 140s would of been better or not in that case but i did use the same 280mm aio on the 7700k in a thermaltake view 71 with push pull and temps were a little higher but that case has glass on top so expected.