cooling pump for water cooled spindles. the best way.
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2 жыл бұрынAfter using this industrial chiller for over a year i have to say it is the best way to cool your spindle. the flow is quite high so water can reach spindle at really good rate. not like pond pump where there barely was any flow.
when the hose got pinched you didn't even know something went wrong.
this comes all packaged in to one nice box with water tank and cooling radiator and alarm if something goes wrong.
i have another one for my laser cutter and it has been going for 6 years now.
no problems.
i got mine on alibaba from this company:
jsdgd.en.alibaba.com/productg...
it looks like they have nicer newer models now.
@Bakafish 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome back!
@Fraid-Knot 2 жыл бұрын
Good to have you back Fox.
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
thanks :D
@DMonZ1988 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Piotr! I've watched your build videos so often it feels like I'm seeing an old friend! Still I'm a little surprised how nice it is to see you. Hope you're doing well! The next video sounds really interesting and I'm really looking forward to it. Can't say the chiller looks terribly exciting, but if it works it works. See you next time!
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, thanks! its nice to see you here, i have the same feelings about you guys, its like seeing old friends :)
@Lukas-jn6vo 2 жыл бұрын
Nice to see you again Piotr!!! Hope for your amazing new videos!! 👌
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
:D thanks, glad you like them :)
@tiagolomar 2 жыл бұрын
It is good to see one new video from you…great work
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you 😀
@drewgossage8842 2 жыл бұрын
Great to see another upload Fox, always greatful for your sharing with us all. Looking forward to your next upload, sounds like you have been biten even worse by the perfectionism bug. Didn't think that was possible 😂😂
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
hey! thanks :) yeah... i have been bitten by the perfectionism bug really hard. actually it feels like it was a whole swarm of them :D
@cankocak6505 2 жыл бұрын
I learned a lot from your videos, thank you so much!
@wilcojuffer5940 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice to see you again the problem of the beeper replace ist for a blinking lamp
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
i think if you disconnect the beeper red warning light should turn on anyway. but now once its connected to the spindle i can't be bothered taking it a part again :) but one day i will :D
@manfredriedl5472 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Fox, Nice video as always. I have now runnig the exact same chiller for one week, after upgrading my machine to a Iso20 Atc Spindle. I have the same thought about it, like you. The fan is at horrible noise level!! Luckily my VFD has regulated fan, so just one thats loud. I am thinking about repacing it to a silent one. Greetings from Austria. Manfred
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
congrats on your new spindle :) i hope it will work well for you.
@rowepjr 2 жыл бұрын
I had a cw3000 I was using for my K40 laser which was not adequate for summer. I obtained a refrigerated cw-5000 which works well for the K-40. I have installed the cw-3000 on the cnc. If it is not good enough for summer can use the chiller from the K40.
@HoY_82 2 жыл бұрын
I switched to a chiller almost exactly like this as well.
@user-fw1go1qm5x 2 жыл бұрын
More video please!!!
@chrisleech1565 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Piotr! Hope you are well. International shipping can easily be more than the item as you publish this. Happily my pond pump is still running quietly after 2 yrs use. VFD fan is definitely on the list for an upgrade though. Dual ball bearing type - maybe A Noctua branded version is in the cards. Regards C
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
indeed shipping of only the water chiller would cost as much or more as the chiller, thats why i bought it when i was replacing my laser tube. tube was big and light, the shipping price was calculated by volume and chiller shipping was minimal. to get to the vfd fan you have to take everything out to change it. i'm way to lazy to go though it :)
@jonjon3829 2 жыл бұрын
yea you need one of those fancy polishing endmills that produce mirror finish directly on the machine
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
Would be nice. If it works
@TY1979KA 2 жыл бұрын
I got the feeling you will be modding the chiller as well wit a new powersupply and pump in the furture :D
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
nah, I'm too lazy :) i can't even force my self to kill this beeper :)
@paco3447 2 жыл бұрын
Next level project: 5 axis CNC. The DMG Mori's Monoblock DMU Series uses an interesting design approach.
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
it does and it makes sense to make machine like this.
@paco3447 2 жыл бұрын
@@PiotrFoxWysocki Yep. An interesting aspect of the layout is the raised standard cartesian base, so the Y-axis assembly allows a single drive (at the expense of increased depth, though). For a homemade tier, I would place a worm gear coupling mechanism on the A-axis (right into the flange coupling) in order to avoid a powerful direct servo drive, and maybe another one (but with a perpend bevel gear instead) below the rotary table for the rotary shaft/trunnion.
@P1-Engineering 2 жыл бұрын
I added a heating element to mine so the spindle is always at 21°C before it starts running. Also really helps with getting the entire Z-axis on a constant temperature. It's an easy upgrade.
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
feels like i should make something similar as i have noticed the thermal expansion of the z axis. when the machine is cold vs warmed up. its visible on the finish of the 500mm shell mill. i would say few microns.
@P1-Engineering 2 жыл бұрын
@@PiotrFoxWysocki Posted a link to the heater I used, but think it got removed. Search for JBL Protemp e300. Send an email to you with some pictures. If you need more info don't hesitate to contact me. Your videos have been very inspiring to me and currently building my second CNC since I need more capacity. :)
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
I have seen the pictures you sent to me. It looks great👍 well done 👏 I might copy your idea, at some point
@josvanhoof7616 Жыл бұрын
@@P1-Engineering Hi there, I saw your post about the JBL Protempe300. Would't you be so kind to send me some pictures of you setup including the chiller. What kind of coulant do you use?
@sommersetcoker5455 2 жыл бұрын
your back! Hiiii piotr!
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
haha :) i have never left :D
@yasiramad6245 Жыл бұрын
Hi how are you sir I buy dental milling machine with water cooling spindle 1.2 kw so how I maintain on spindle life and what the expensive between air cooling or water cooling spindle
@davidschoenmakers9039 Жыл бұрын
multi axis, so all facing passes!
@cyrusramsey4741 2 жыл бұрын
Hello 😀 Long time no see 😁
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
hey hey :)
@cyrusramsey4741 2 жыл бұрын
@@PiotrFoxWysocki Hope all is well with you Fox 😀
@nils1953 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, my CW3000 has an actual radiator, with fins, not just simple pipes. I was vastly underwhelmed for the money I paid. Could have built the entire chiller for under $50, I thought they would have at least something special inside..
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
same here, i wish it had something magical inside :) I was considering building one my self but it would take way more time and it wouldn't have a nice enclosure, so it was cheaper just to buy one. even if i had to modify it.
@EitriBrokkr 2 жыл бұрын
What else could possibly be in there? Magic fairies?
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
Haha 😄 I don't know. A radiator with fins yould be pretty magical view ;)
@EitriBrokkr 2 жыл бұрын
@@PiotrFoxWysocki machine one to replace the coils. With the surface finishes you achieve it would be a pretty magical view 🙂
@ati77711123 2 жыл бұрын
Też mamy mało czasu a jednak oglądamy ;) Więc i Ty musisz znaleść żeby nagrywać. Pozdro.
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
ineczej jak sie oglada a inaczej jak nusisz nakrecic :) Ja ogladam youtube i robie inne rzeczy w tym samym czasie :)
@FrankMeier-eb7vj Жыл бұрын
This works for a router cnc? Tired also of having to change the pump to a cooler bucket to keep working.
@PiotrFoxWysocki Жыл бұрын
Industrial chiller I guess you can chill whatever you want. I'm considering using it for computer water cooling 😉
@josvanhoof7616 Жыл бұрын
Hi there, I have a chinacnczone 6040 cnc wth 2.2kw watercooled spindel. I use the waterpump that came with the cnc in a bucket with a mixture of Cooling liquid and distilled water. After running a couple of hours the spindel gets realy hot. Do you think the Vevor CW3000 is good enough to keep the temperature of the spindel down? What kind of liquid did you use in your chiller? Thanks in advance.
@PiotrFoxWysocki Жыл бұрын
I have been using the same thing for many years. Same thing. If you run spindle for too long it gets hot. All because this pond pump just is not strong enough to keep the flow. I had my bucket at the same level as the spindle to increase the flow. But since I switched into this chiller no more problems plus I have temperature and no flow warning. Go for it!
@josvanhoof7616 Жыл бұрын
@@PiotrFoxWysocki Thanks for your time. I saw some other options to reduce the temperature by using a pc watercooler with 2 fans. Since i had laying some old fans of 120 mm around i only need the radiator to try the setup. I hope it works. I will keep you posted.
@PiotrFoxWysocki Жыл бұрын
I dont think cooling is the problem. I think water flow is. Because I'm sure that spindle is much warmer than the water in the bucket 🪣 😉
@josvanhoof7616 Жыл бұрын
@@PiotrFoxWysocki I never thought of that. The water in the bucket is fairly warm but the spindel is very hot after a couple of hours. I have another same waterpump as i use now. Maybe it helps if i let these pumps work together to get a better waterflow. When it does not work okay, i surely will go to a cw3000.
@josvanhoof7616 Жыл бұрын
Today I ordered the Vevor cw3000 because the option with the two pumps did not work as i hoped. Hopefuly the cw3000 will do the job.
@silverghost3506 2 жыл бұрын
its good.. but those cw3000 are just glorified radiators.. unlike that cw5000 that has a refrigerant on them..
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
No doubt about it. I Just don't see a reason to pay 3x more if this one does the job perfectly well. But it's good to know that there are options if you need them.
@AdamS-nd5hi 2 жыл бұрын
TURN THE VOLUME UP ON YOUR VIDEOS PRETTY PLEASE
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
Noted ✅
@AdamS-nd5hi 2 жыл бұрын
@@PiotrFoxWysocki thanks homie
@mondo50m 11 ай бұрын
That unit is nothing more than a small radiator with fans. To have true coolong you need AT LEAST a 1/10 horsepower compressor provideing refrigerated cooling. Garbage for a CNC!
@thetruthyouneedtohear 2 жыл бұрын
These are junk. I have one sitting in my storage room. It would never keep my spindle cool.
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
strange. i had couple of them and I had no problems
@thetruthyouneedtohear 2 жыл бұрын
@@PiotrFoxWysocki I agree. When I saw you did a video on these I really thought you were going to arrive at the same place. I'm going to open mine up, I'm curious now. Good to see you back!
@PiotrFoxWysocki 2 жыл бұрын
I had one where the power cable was disconnected. Easy fix. And it was working ever since.
@chimaeria6887 2 жыл бұрын
These are in fact not junk. They can cool most 2,2 kW spindles very easily.
@PiefacePete46 2 жыл бұрын
Greg: Useful to know you found them to be junk... even better if you tell us what you found to use instead! :o)
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