The most notorious change for me besides the change in music for the first game was the delays in some interactions. For the first game, one significant delay was Mz. Ruby’s attacks not in line with the music, causing you to slip up. But Sly 3 had the delays to a fault.

For those wondering, the Sly 2 cutscene was censored because law in the EU sees any depiction of gambling as an age rating boost, meaning the game would have gotten a high-T or even M rating from just that.

I knew Murray's ball jump felt weird in the PS3 version. I just couldn't figure out why that was the case.

PS2 version much more well rounded. PS3 is little rougher around the edges. Which pains me because the PS3 version could have been patched but they didn’t

13:25 Holy shit, no wonder it was so difficult using Murphy's Ball Form in the PS3 version. The height difference made the challenges extra difficult.

PS2's "A Strange Reunion" music is more fitting but PS3 version sounds more "cinematic"

I find it so cool that a Sly Cooper video can get several thousand views in under a day, and end up in my recommendations! Keep it up

One thing not mentioned here is the paintings in Sly 3 having terrible framerates. Kind of surprising Sanzura was allowed to take the reigns of the series with the hackjob they made of the remasters

10:51 It was pretty cool that the PS3 version allowed us to actually read the whole chat between Bentley and Penelope, instead of some unnecessary camera panning.

Another weird thing I found as a child: In Sly 2 if you go into the bear cave from episode 7 (from the tracker mission) after the mission itself you can wake the bears and then climb on an ice wall and they will all try to attack you in one spot (they'll kill each other xD). In the Ps3 version though for some reason the game just crashes if you do it. No idea why, disappointed me a bit

Always loved seeing the changes between the games. Didn't know Sly 3 had that many though so thanks for showing this old vet something new!!!

The changes to the intro for the Dogfight chapter in Sly 3 was probably their best change. The focus on the conversation between Bently and Penelope was a nice addition, and the wait until they zoomed out at the of the conversation makes the Bently profile picture hit just a little funnier in my opinion.

honestly surprised at the changes between the trilogy and the collection. the collection on vita is my first experience with the series and i wasn't aware of the changes outside of the different music in 1. not sure why they didn't make the collection the definitive edition. some of these are minor changes but never made sense to cut out bonus content when ps3/vita had more storage than a ps2 disc. i think you also forgot that the redone music in 1 for A Deadly Dance is off by a bit in the collection. they didn't adjust the timings.

9:12 Smol ass lmao, middle school tier joke aside this really shed some light on the differences each version had, and I'm also glad to see such recent videos about Sly Cooper.

If y'all also have notice during the intro of all 3 games, sly and the gang were all black as if they were hiding in the shadows until they step out into the light in the ps2 version but in the ps3 version you can see them during the intro

I paused it at 9:14 just to see the first image saying smol ass. Learned something new about sly I wasn’t expecting.

Such an interesting video, and the last one got me good! The writing on the window says "Prosciutto di Parma" which means "Ham from Parma", and it's a real brand in Italy, so it looks like they wanted to avoid this sort of indirect product placement.

One small difference, in the form of a glitch, between the two is a minor graphical effect used in Sly 2 when Bentley walks into some water tower in Paris to readjust the water pipes. There was this pretty cool effect in the PS2 version where time would freeze and the screen would flip around after Bentley entered the interior of the tower to remove the outside environment and flip the screen again to add the interior of the tower into the picture. When I got to this part in the PS3 version, this effect was completely broken where all the screen did was turn a still image of Bentley reaching the loading zone upside down and then POOF Bentley was all of a sudden inside. I know it’s minor, but the issue was glaring enough to me like it was with the Ms Ruby to make me question how thorough they were with porting, testing, and debugging.

Damn so many changes i didnt even notice, thank you!

I’m so who happy that people remember this game it was such a good one

11:00 That was actually a regional change. On the PS2 NTSC-U version they allowed you to read the conversation during the cutscene. In the PAL version, they avoided showing the chats likely so they wouldn't have to translate the dialogue.

The soundtracks for Sly 2 start like 5 seconds in their playtime when you load into a level. When visiting the Bear cave in Episode 7, your PS3 will freeze after a short while. Hopefully with PS+ Deluxe, they'll release the Sly games as PS2 classics like the Jak and Daxter titles later down the line. Also, in Sly 3, the music when Carmelita fights Muggshot in Holland is missing as well.

One big in game thing that really pissed me off in the remake of 2 is that I swear flashlight guards have issues with their detection and flashlights. You can see the light clipping through walls and I swear at some points they detected me with it when they shouldn't have. Not just with walls but in general.

At the opening scene of Sly 2 where the sucker punch logo is a billboard and the gang is running along the rooftop, on PS2 the gang is blacked out and on PS3 it is not (you can see all 3 of them clear as day)

one thing I always noticed was that the bouncy mushrooms in Rajan's second episode had a highlight filter over them compared to the ps2 texture

Another change to the music is that they removed the ominous banjo, accordion and strumming string for A Ghastly Voyage's theme at the beginning.

this was a video i didn’t know i needed to see!!!

I actually still have my ps3. And play the sly collection on disc. I still play it alot. Despite the weird changes.

There is one more change you forgot; in the opening of Sly 1, the PS2 version has Sky running in black silhouette, but on PS3 this appears to be bugged and he is visible.

I was waiting for this one!!!

This was a dope video never noticed any changes

Also Mz Ruby's fight is bugged on the PS3 physical release. Seems to have been fixed on whatever version Sony is offering via cloud gaming

The quality of HD re-releases on PS3 was all over the place. You had great ones like Metal Gear Solid 2&3 HD or God of War 1&2 HD. Decent ones with some obvious issues like Sly HD, Ratchet & Clank HD or Jak & Daxter HD. And the awful ones like Silent Hill 2&3 HD.

3:31 I'll never understand why they used the sneaking music in a Grave Undertaking to begin with. That shit was so outta place.

The Sly 3 episode 3 intro is actually identical between the original NTSC PS2 release and PS3, the one shown on the left as "PS2" is the PAL PS2 release, which I assume was changed so that it didn't zoom in on English text when it could very well be a German or Italian or Spanish, etc., version. They likely didn't want to translate the screens for many other languages, so they instead zoomed out and did some generic typing animations. So really, Sanzaru "fixed" that cutscene back to the original.

I thought I was the only one who noticed these changes. Also 2 & 3 don't have the sly loading icon in the center of the screen, (from PS2) and instead just use a black screen when loading (on PS3)

Probably they had copyright problems or smth with the restaurant’s name, prosciutto di Parma its a pretty big name here in Italy

Great video!

I also noticed the PS3 version didn’t animate any of the large black lava bubbles in Tide of Terror. They’re more stationary and dark compared to the original PS2 version. Also in the opening, Sly is completely visible in PS3 rather than being mostly silhouetted

6:40 I seriously don't understand why that clip was necessary to cut out. (For implications of gambling, sure, but how about all tobacco or alcohol references before and after that scene?)🃏

On sly 1 i think theres a problem on the deadly dance battle, the music goes out of sync with the original game

14:10 The restaurant name is missing because in Italy "Prosciutto di Parma" it's a copyrighted branded name of prestigious ham

3:46 The PS3 version didn’t exactly changed this song, they just made a dark & twisted remix of the song to make the Swamp hub world more creepy. The original PS2 song is still used in the Hideout though.

Thanks for this video ! If I may add something I noticed: they censored the beginning of Sly 2 in the French version of the remaster. Originally, on the PS2 version, Sly gets his code name wrong by saying " ici Petit Fion" (= this is Little Butt) instead of "Petit Lion" (=Little Lion). On the PS3 version, he says "ici Petit Pion" (= this is Little Pawn).

looks like sly 3 ep3 opening on ps3 actually uses early ps2 prototype storyboarding for some reason

Somehow I didn’t know that everything got changed in Sly 1, 2, and 3 in Sly Cooper Collection. ✨

I wouldn’t even notice the flaws if you hadn’t pointed them out. I had Sly 2 for PS2 and the PS3 collection recently just finished it even had all the platinum trophies for each game.

14:11 it might have been changed due to prosciutto di parma being an actual food or they forgot to put it on the window

There was a remastered version of the soundtrack from the first game where you need to help Murray get the treasure keys from the 2 missions in Muggshot's and the Panda King's levels

Have you ever test the loading between the PS2, PS3, and PS VITA versions? Because the faster loading could be the reason why the theme of mz ruby doesn't sync with the oncoming buttons that Mz Ruby throws you at.

A lot of unnecessary changes, but the ones to A Strange Reunion certainly aren't unwelcome.

I like that we can see the chat on the PS3/Vita versions, however, I’m still biased towards the original. Edit: I know I came across your videos many times, but I thought I been subscribed. Well I am now.

Damn man, Sanzaru couldn't even get the remasters right let alone Thieves in time smh

In PS3 version of SLY 3, Muggshot fight doesn't play the intended boss music

Aaah yes, i remember i just yolo playing that 3-D function without having 3D glasses 😂

I found more differences, but with the digital release of the games, they are still the remasters, but these while not perfect, have less issues than the physical disc, including the audio delays in the dialogue

How do I not remember any of this?

I know there's an Action Replay code for PS3 to unlock the Mega Jump power up. I don't know if there was ever one for the PS2 version.

Wait a minute, I remember clear as day that on ps2 the sly 3 scene with penelope always had that chat room while sly was monologueing. Am I being seriously mandela effected?

Another Sly 1 difference is during the Mz. Ruby fight. The music on the PS3 version is not in line with the battle unlike the PS2 version. Also, the music from making your way to Mz. Ruby was also missing on the PS3 version.

I actually only have played the PS3 version since I never had a PS2 as a kid so this is interesting for sure to me, I had an Xbox, and the compilation trilogy was one of the games I grabbed pretty quick after I got a PS3 for Christmas of 2011 since these games had always been one of the PS2 games I was interested in I wasn't able to play. And to this day these 3 games are among my favorites, and it has nothing to do with childhood nostalgia I was 22 when I played through the trilogy from October to December in 2012 about a year after I got the PS3, one Sly game a month at the end of 2012. I looked at when I got the trophies, which trophy timestamps are good for seeing when you played something, even if you don't care about trophies it can help you remember when you played something! And make you feel older, lol. Of course I still have my copy and the PS3 I played it on! Actually funny enough the day I finished and Platinumed Sly 3 was December 21st,2012, the day the world was supposed to end according to so many people because they thought thats why the Mayan calendar ended on that date. Although my local time here in Pacific time USA was the 20th it was 8:30 PM and already the 21st overseas.

Why’d they get rid of the card playing scene from episode 1’s ending? Was it because of the gambling reference?

Another thing not mentioned is the lighting is a lot brighter in the ps3/vita version. I get they’re doing it to “improve” graphics, but I don’t really like it because as a thief, it’s supposed to be a darker, grittier game than say ratchet and clank. The levels are supposed to take place at night and with the lighting changes, it just feels you are walking around during daytime with guards straight up ignoring you. So strange

8:24 I always thought that black stuff was oil from Clock-La's exploded body.

This is just sad I never played the PS2 versions of the games because I don’t have a PS2 So the PS3 version is all I got If they do another remaster/rerelease of the games for the PS4 and PS5 in the future I hope they exclude everything and I mean everything from the PS2 version Like the music the bonus video features all that good stuff Make it the definitive way to play sly cooper

Mi chiedo perché hanno modificato i filmati di questo gioco

Neyla's hologram model from sly 2 final mission is little bit different in the ps3 version compared to the ps2 version

I DONT remember getting that intro for episode 3 on the PS2 version at all! I remember getting the one like we see on the PS3. I got the game right off the truck when it was released tho so...maybe my copy was different? I'm just confused cause I've NEVER seen that before 0_0

i coulda SWORN they changed the mariachi dogs' appearance and music in _At the Dog Track_ in the PS3 version, because i've been watching a friend play through the PS2 game via emulation and i swore it sounded different from the PS3 collection i'd played fairly recently. research indicates otherwise, however, and it seems i've somehow Mandella'd myself. also it's crazy to see the difference between the two versions of _Flight of Fancy_ - the change somehow both more and less dynamic at the same time. -lol "occifer"-

The issue I had on the ps3 version of sly 2 was when I’m doing the heist in Paris the music doesn’t sound the same as the ps2 version which has a harmonic sound to the music, but u only hear that when you’re along the edge holding down circle

wow there are so many! i didnt know them

Wow! I never noticed.

8:21 That's obviously supposed to be shading against a harsh backlight, just like on Bentley's hand.

The whole penelope chat thing isnt a change. Its PAL on the ps2 side and the NTSC ps3 version which mirrors the ntsc ps2 version

Some of the voice lines in the ps3 version sound lower in quality than in the ps2 version, weird right? Lol

Of all unnecessary changes, why remove the text from the Deli window texture in Sly 3?

Idk if this is like a personal issue or what, but the sound track on the PS Vita version of Sly 1 had a horribly broken soundtrack. The wrong versions of songs would play and sometimes no music at all would play

is this significant enough that I should play all Sly Cooper games in their original forms or are the PS3 versions ok? update: looking at this differences between PS2 and PS3 video, I decided that missing content was too much to risk the PS3 versions so all games on original releases, no HD collections, with the acception of the God Of War Saga since that one seems fine

Dont know if I'm in the right place for this question..looks like it tho..in sly 2 for ps3..i think its level 3..with the elephants & 💩..why..WHY..WHYYYY...did they make it so you cant even see where the bottles, the enemies, or the vines are without using the bi-noc-ucom? Looks like half the world is missing? OR is it just this way when you downlaod it from the store? I'm pissed!

0:24 I'm still looking for that music.

I wish Sony would consider porting the trilogy to PC.

14:10 "Prosciutto di Parma" is Italian for "Parma ham".😉🍖

To leave an original comment, I still don't understand why only 1 bonus movie was included in the european release. And was the australian one any different?

The black things in murray's face are shadows

Slaigh MacCooper of Ancient Scotland (My Favorite Ancestor)

i want to buy all hd remasters jak,sly,ratchet and god of war wich one are really bad? also what is the racist kor and punch glitch? i think the jak remaster tho is the best of them all

Honestly some of the remixed music isn’t too bad

How did you get an incredible image quality out of PS2?

14:10 ''Prosciutto di Parma'' it's an Italian brand of meat :) So they've probably changed it for copyright issues

9:12 "Smol ass"

Most of these are barely noticeable, but I am bothered that they cut the end scene in episode 1 of sly 2 and why Murray’s ball move doesn’t make him fly up so high in sly 3 for the ps3

I forgot how bad*** Clockwerk's theme was, too bad we never saw him again

Personally I liked the Paris music in Sly2 on ps2. Yet they changed the music for ps3 and I noticed right away when I first started the level, sad.

12:28 Pretty strange they didn't remove (or change) this scene. Most may see it as innocent, but to some it might come as an implication of perversy.🤨

A Strange Reunion sounds like a Zelda music

Some changes in the PS3 version are unnecessary, and praise be to the PS2 games for their quality and visuals. Even so, you can't deny the HD quality that the PS3 remaster gave us

i'm glad i have the first 3 games on PS2, just the weird audio delays/out of sync MzRuby battle and diffrent music on the PS3 "remasters" is enough to make the games less enjoyable

9:12 It seems like Sly has a Smoll ass now as well 😂 But in all seriousness, I find it baffling how all of these mistakes and bugs haven't even been patched! In my opinion the PS2 version of these games are still the definitive way to play these games. The upgrades are just not that worth it for me, hope they bring a reworked version of the trilogy out at some point in time. Man I miss Sly...

Rip Prosciutto di Parma 😭😭😭😭😭

The ps3 remaster definitely did a good job remastering the music of sly 1