Wow

Well said young man.

I LOVE that!!

To play a wrong note is insignificant because we can call it Jazz

plya withyour soul

@LaMortEtLamour Germany had moved past feudalism centuries before Beethoven.

@LaMortEtLamour Britain still has a monarchy. Would you regard them as feudal? I have two degrees in history, I am confident in my response. Monarchy does not equal feudalism.

@LaMortEtLamour What is wrong with you? Spitting out so many insults...they merely stated the fact that Germany was not feudal at this time anymore. An emperor has nothing to do with that. Feudalism ended, as they said, centuries before this. You can't just make up your own definition of feudalism.

"[Michael Umlauf, the theatre's Kapellmeister and director of this performance] had watched as the composer's attempt to conduct a dress rehearsal of his opera Fidelio ended in disaster. So this time, he instructed the singers and musicians to ignore the almost completely deaf Beethoven. /.../ Based on the testimony of the participants, there are suggestions that it was under-rehearsed (there were only two full rehearsals) and rather scrappy in execution." "Beethoven himself conducted, that is, he stood in front of a conductor's stand and threw himself back and forth like a madman. At one moment he stretched to his full height, at the next he crouched down to the floor, he flailed about with his hands and feet as though he wanted to play all the instruments and sing all the chorus parts. -The actual direction was in Duport's hands; we musicians followed his baton only." --Joseph Böhm, violinist "When the audience applauded /.../ Beethoven was several bars off and still conducting. Because of that, the contralto Caroline Unger walked over and turned Beethoven around to accept the audience's cheers and applause."

@ thx

Wow so true, and the best reason is the history itself,

Yes

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It's always the classics that survive. Nobody remembers all the countless imitations that came after.

Arguably the greatest pience of music ever written in human history!!! If man can creat something like this, maybe there is hope for humanity.

I often think the same as you.. ❤️

Why did he follow the girl's actions? Why didn't he see the book by himself?

@@abcdefgh6121 beethoven was completely deaf at this time. In reality there was another conductor next to Beethoven leading the orchestra.

@@florisheijdra6086 If he was completely deaf, how did he created the symphony as he couldn't have been able to listen to it while composing it?

@@abcdefgh6121 beethoven had perfect pitch! So in his head he could hear the right notes all the time. But it was far from easy. Beethoven suffered but turned his weakness into a strength

And That's The Proud Moment To Atleast Listen To Beethoven Too Too Young Fans Of This Generation ❤️❤️❤️😍

Metternich was at the concert so why did he need to send police

He probably didn't even know the audience liked it because he couldn't hear them clapping.

@@kittydaddy2023 8 standing ovations with everyone screaming pretty sure he would know even tho he was deaf

well, although there wasn't a precise moment when music was invented, i would argue that the development of musicality by different men at the dawn of mankind would be the greatest 'moment' in the history of music

@@tarielkaroldan5903 music existed before man did composers are discovering it not creating it

Chris Benna no

@@chrisbenna506 That's good.

@@chrisbenna506 we can't say they are discovering music.

That wasn't haughty. :-)

Im jealous, stop.

this is a good reason to learn German

I know only a little German, but I know enough to know Silent Night in the original.

Ja, die Ode an die Freude ist einfach wunderbar.

8.32am here and so am I! Seeing this at the Royal Albert Hall in September and I'm beyond excited!!

​@@fraudebs8786Happened to stumble back upon this comment... Turns out we were both at the same concert at the RAH 😃

Ludwig van Beethoven Beethoven approves

Ludwig van Beethoven who do you think you are being dead? :( come back and take justin bieber, ariana grande, katy perry and all those

Dude i love you glad you still with us |o|

aren't you TIRED???

Teacher, rewrite something incredible, re-revolutionize music

Think about it, we get to hear Beethoven while they never got to hear Bohemian Rhapsody, clap in theaters to Avengers Endgame, or experience a lot of the other cultural landmarks to grace our 20th and 21st century, in hindsight people will think these were real privileges as well.

@@carlogambino1979 what does black people have anything to do with this? You racist lowlife

@@carlogambino1979 literally braindead, the american system was designed to keep the bottom at bottom. Even if the population dont intend it

@@kanna-chan9455 Comparing Beethovens 9. Symphony with these things is...god.

carlo gambino he literally wasn’t talking about race and then you had to bring it up! Wtf is wrong with you!

Because he was playing it at the pace his head went, and orchestras can get thrown off from the mind's metronome, which is why the conductor is needed at all.

Historicly he messed up so bad when he has no help at all. The symphony was a mess because he cann't hear. That's why he accepted help. I cann't remember all of it accurately so take this with a grain of salt.

Beethoven never became totally deaf. He could hear occasional loud sounds or when people shouted into his ears.

@@eblackadder3 that would actually make conducting worse...your ears playing tricks on you

This is my miracle… how he could see this music, just perfection. This music in the movie is top notch, in the pieces original debut his timing was too fast

me too!

Me to, it’s just sooo good :)

Very well said. I recently attended a performance of the 9th in London for the first time and belive I was the first to come to my feet in the audience with applause as so happy to hear it in person.

@@JohnYoga source?

@@bait5257 it came to me in a dream

or like the people in the last seconds of the video, everybody crying and rejoiced!

13:14 is more accurate

he wasn't really deaf until the last decade of his life, he started learning conducting at the age of 22 or 21 (not sure), and after losing his hearing ability he gave up preforming in front of an audience but still conducting some somphonys.

Symphony ***

bader turab No one quite knows for real but my story books say he was completely deaf since he was 12 years old

+HittokiriBattousai17 you should Google it then 😄

+HittokiriBattousai17 yep no one can really knows

Ode to joy resembles them.

mozart died when he was 9

There's no historical evidence that the two ever met, only assumptions.

Same Soul spirit different bodies

Alexei Stukov He died when he was NINE? Dude!!! He was 35 when he died and already had a child with a woman.

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not entirely true there was about a 12 year period were he produced verry little music, but he wrote his opera, the hammerklavier(although it wasn't too popular), and the missa solemnis before wiritng this

Good old Beethovan, always proving people wrong

He spent the last years of his life working on music he knew he would never hear. He wrote it for US! He is the greatest man who ever lived.

Thousands attended Beethoven's funeral, while Mozart was buried in a commoner's grave. Although the times were different, it also goes to show the universal reach and impact of Beethoven

Agree. This is my favorite Beethoven symphony.....and he could not hear this music except in his head! Pure genius!

Probably had a bunch of critics... and I am sure the room smelled from batheless people - and no McDonald's to go to after the concert!

it's especially difficult to imagine that, given the fact that us humans of the 21st century can hear this song, and any other, over and over again thanks to technology. But at the time, once you heard it that was it, unless you booked a seat in another performance, or were extremely rich, and able to afford an orchestra for your pleasure

@@tarielkaroldan5903 Was it just one time?

xXjakeNbakeXx I really do hope that was a joke :P

Yea I completely understand, I can't make up my mind on whether I'd rather listen to Dies Irae all day or this 9th symphony. So I just listen to both hehe

you clearly don't know much about this music, symphone n09 was great, but it's not the greatest master piece of beethoven, in my case i prefer toccata and fuge from bach, paino concerto n°2 from rachmaninov, symphone n°6 from tchaikovsky, and ofcourse symphone n°5 and n°7 from beethoven.

Javier Munoz and beethoven' 4th. So beautiful SO DAMN COOL!

calavera Step 1: Volta para a escola Step 2: Ouve 500 sinfonias Step 3: Já que estas na escola aprende a escrever Step 4: Aproveita o ambiente de ensino para chegares a conclusão que classificar musica é mais complicado do que escrever ao nivel da terceira classe.

a aww sacan pelis de todas las bandas viejas!!

Mine, too.

There is ample documentary evidence to support the idea that Beethoven became deaf. What sound does god (which one) make?

Now 29 years old damn

PEOPLE WHO CANT APPRECIATE CLASSICAL MUSIC, ARENT INNATELY HUMAN.

Why did he follow the girl's actions? Why didn't he see the book by himself?

​@@abcdefgh6121conducting without listening is like painting without seeing

hannah saucedaIt's the vocals at the best part in this piece that give me the chills.

Oh I so agree.

hannah sauceda Listen to the first movement at about 10th minute in most performances, when the Gates open and everything breaks loose. Unparalleled. Its like a fine summer day when something goes wrong and hell breaks loose.

That is a perfect way to describe that.

Practically all the emotions you feel?

ikr lol

Not if you are a man. Today's women look like men and I don't mean that as a compliment, either.

@@retiredmusiceducator3612 eh, what's wrong with that?

@@retiredmusiceducator3612 and today’s men look like Woman... Imao.

@@lukathurinn7906 many things

Carl Rachel THAT was intense

Yes!!!

Precisely

that was very poetic

Carl Rachel holy fuck. I never read a comment on KZfaq so intense before. Splendid!!!

I thought it was Eroica that was said to have changed music for ever.

@@clairecopple4369 It did. However, I would argue the Ninth was even greater.

@@clairecopple4369 you see, Beethoven changed music forever several times during his life

Al nivel compositivo al que estaba Beethoven cuando compuso esto no necesitaba su oído para nada. Lo escuchaba todo de sobra en su cabeza

They all know what's coming -- they can't wait to get there.

I know, right? That ginger lady at 06:20 Perfect face. She knows the audience is in for something spectacular.

yes, that the thing most astonishing, create it and the playing in your mind!! The final scene shows it perfectly, the power of the music was sounded in his head, making his world mind trambles of its power!

Beethoven would have said, "look dude, I lived to 56 and made great music the last decade of my life, put down that damn shotgun and see what you can do."

This scene wasn't actually grounded in what actually happened. He was not conducting at all. Most of the plot of this movie including this scene were complete fallacies.

@@brendank5413 I don't care about that....this scene was beautifully done with the two main actors "conducting" an orchestra....they had to learn how to actually conduct for the movie...and yes, no one sat in the orchestra pit to help him but one of the sopranos did go up and turn him around towards the audience so he could see them cheering and clapping!

He did not conduct as he obviously could not. Either at various points or only at the finale (not clear from the accounts) he came onto stage and "helped" the conductor, Michael Umlauf, to indicate expression or tempo to the orchestra. His role was more like what the fictional Anna Holz character does here. The orchestra had been told to ignore him. He was on stage when the piece finished and the alto Caroline Unger, turned him to the audience so he could see their applause.

no te entiendo :/

Well said Sir.

I as well thought this was a really excellent film, and Ed Harris was incredible as Beethoven.

Many reasons. For example, it was inaccurate. I don't know if you understand some of actually conducting, but this scene is completely ridiculous. Lots of mistakes that in actually music doesn't happen

​@@aledbarretoit doesn't have to be accurate u dolt. Just look at Amadeus and repeat it again

Name movie?Please

+William .Thorén if you only hear music in your head without external acoustics, you speed up.. this also accounts for the dubious or even impossible metronome indications in some of his later works..

This notion of some woman being the hero is just modern subversive claptrap.

I know this is rooted in awe, but it is simply foolish to state this.

@@amerrylittlemonarch thank you for being so modest, Ludwig 😆

That's not true. This event did happen. He had help here just like the movie showed but it was a man. And he was completely deaf Edit: i meant he was completely deaf here

Jw? x)

Arturo, not that you far from a major point about the pinnacle of achievement in music, but please do listen to Handel's Messiah, final movement: Worthy is the Lamb. I am a composer. I've studied both the 9th and the Messiah for all their intricacies. Both are equals, no question about that. Please turn up your speakers (or, better yet, put on headphones), turn out the lights, lay back in bed, and let the end of the Messiah - Worthy is the Lamb - transport you. You will see that you end up in the very same heavenly spot as you do with the 9th. Peace, brother.

there is another coincidence between the 2 biggest human masterpieces Messias and 9th. both were composed by german genius

And he was deaf

@@Nabilagreen64 aye and others still armed with their hearin

@@carlorachel I didn't liked at all!! For me there's no comparison!!!!