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@JungianHeights Жыл бұрын
This is why the police shouldn’t be able to say they prevent crime. They wait for it to happen, then clean up the blood.
@johnpederson5873 Жыл бұрын
They arrest people for criminal intent, if the police catch you preparing to rob a bank ,they will arrest you, before you rob the bank.
@mason4163 Жыл бұрын
They do prevent crime tho
@jenjones90 Жыл бұрын
I hate the police but in the context of what Justin had actually done, I don't know what action they could have taken to prevent this other than have him sectioned. If she had got the SPO he wouldn't have been locked up and would have breached it, if he had been arrested for stalking her he would have been given bail conditions, which is no different to what happened after the assault charge. He could have done this in either of those situations. As Adam said, you can't just lock everyone up, especially based on what they MIGHT do.
@JungianHeights Жыл бұрын
@@jenjones90 He didn’t just go from the hospital to doing this. It has been building up, but the point is PREVENTION, not a clean up. How are people supposed to feel safe if people are allowed to this? The police don’t understand what stalking actually is. They believe the stalker at their word (because they aren’t going to admit to it), but not the victim. There are laws in place that the police don’t actually follow, as claimed by victims of stalking.
@jenjones90 Жыл бұрын
@@JungianHeights Could you tell me what the police could have actually done to prevent this incident? I understand your points but what actions could they have taken which could have stopped this? Even if the police had followed the laws (you're talking about section 2a and section 4 of the harassment act 1998) and got the relevant protection orders in place, they could not have prevented this based on what he had already done. What I think they should have done was section him under 136 of the MHA as that would have been the only way of keeping him in a secure unit without him having committed or threatened to commit a violent offence. Also, it isn't that they believe the suspect, but you can't get someone arrested let alone charged without evidence. People make stalking allegations every day to the police with no evidence, most of them are false or malicious. You can't just believe someone who makes an allegation. Not charging the person or not arresting them doesn't mean the police believe them or believe the victim, but the burden of proof is on the victim. If it is just one person's word against the other's they cannot just charge and criminalise someone based on the word of the victim. I had nude pics of me put online before, and it was quite clear to me that my ex either did it or distributed the photos for someone else to do so. I had men calling me cause my number was included with them. I had guys I didn't know turning up at my house. The most the police could do was interview my ex over that, cause I had no evidence to directly connect it to him in any way. FYI, Daisy DID have evidence to prove harassment under section 2 or stalking under section 2a. Those are both summary offences. At most he would have been charged, been given a restraining order at magistrates and a non-custodial if it was his first offence. Obviously the police were useless and failed to recognise her evidence (they could have proven harassment if not stalking), but what she needed was evidence under section 4 to stand any chance of him being held on remand and to receive a custodial. She had no evidence under section 4. He clearly didn't care about his criminal record etc so he would have had no incentive to adhere to any restraining orders so in that situation this would still have happened.
@abbieroseholden4174 Жыл бұрын
Team Daisy on this!! Happens so much in real life people getting ignored!!! Good one Daisy
@thomasking8733 Жыл бұрын
YESSSS LITERALLY IM GETTING FED UP WITH POLICE NOT BELIEVING ANYONE
@abbieroseholden4174 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasking8733 do it In real life though. Like literally because police do nothing people get hurt or end up dead
@thomasking8733 Жыл бұрын
@@abbieroseholden4174 literally every day every hour every minute every second someone in the world gets killed … or gets hurt like that it’s so sad how the worlds become these days
@abbieroseholden4174 Жыл бұрын
@@thomasking8733 not condoning it but that's why people take law into their own hands
@thomasking8733 Жыл бұрын
@@abbieroseholden4174 no but literally but then THEY get arrested 💀
@MrBadBoy2105 Жыл бұрын
She is right she has told them multiple times what Justin has done he was still walking around
@thelordofpainandsuffering8480 Жыл бұрын
It's extremely frustrating that the police never took Daisy seriously with her reports about this psychotic monster. The guy was dating her biological mother, sending unwanted gifts at the pub, calling from a withheld number to her phone, creeping around on the street where she lives on Coronation Street for months, etc. He needed to be locked away or given a restraining order if he got close to her. I knew something of this magnitude would happen and this highlights why ppl don't trust the police when things like this happen.
@MrBadBoy2105 Жыл бұрын
@@thelordofpainandsuffering8480 he also broke into her house
@jenjones90 Жыл бұрын
@@MrBadBoy2105 he walked through an unlocked door, not the same as breaking in unfortunately.
@MrBadBoy2105 Жыл бұрын
@@jenjones90 he still came into her house uninvited
@jenjones90 Жыл бұрын
@@MrBadBoy2105 yeah it isn't a crime. Same happened to me when I was at uni. Trespassing only becomes a crime if the person refuses to leave when the police asks them to.
@spiceupyourafterlife Жыл бұрын
I’m glad Corrie is speaking up about this. Police do not care about the victims they’re supposed to protect from people like Justin until something happens.
@HarryHill-vk7iv Жыл бұрын
It is woke rubbish.
@TheWeepingDalek5 ай бұрын
It's not that they don't care. It's that they actually can't do much. This is minority report
@lewisames5412 Жыл бұрын
I'm so happy Daisy blasted them the way she did, they did her and Ryan so dirty
@dynahvelvixin.8615 Жыл бұрын
The police failed to take Dasiy seriously and her and Ryan two innocent people whose falling victim for their lack of doing their job right.
@astralaurora4165 Жыл бұрын
“We’ve got plenty of officers out there looking” The police officers: *Craig* Also I’m with Abi on that why is Daisy being interrogated despite the fact she has literally got burns from acid and needs to go to the hospital.
@Flygono03 Жыл бұрын
Craig probably stopped off for a quarter pounder meal during his search
@Tad1945 Жыл бұрын
@@Flygono03 Craig’s response I’m looking for Justin Daisy me and my team are doing our very best.
@AurianWarriorOfDarkness Жыл бұрын
Craig is a peice of shit of a copper he is literally on the block and yet everything under the sun get passed him only time he reacts is when something occurs in front of him he is like an old school copper doesnt take the intiative or additional concern into his neighbors matter now if it was faye he be going extra Mile for her
@AurianWarriorOfDarkness Жыл бұрын
@@Tad1945 He definitely aint Ash ketchum! Ooooooh I made a Funny!!!!!!!!
@abbieroseholden4174 Жыл бұрын
Couldn't even catch Toyah or Gary for murdering people!!!
@Edwards-Videos Жыл бұрын
Good for you, Daisy. The police didn't care until it was too late.
@brettthomson-hunter8237 Жыл бұрын
The damage has been done.
@TheSexybabe1978 Жыл бұрын
Brilliant actress hope she wins an award for this
@brittanysquire1739 Жыл бұрын
It's sad that whatever happened continues to this day. People report one person and cops doesn't take it seriously as it should have been but if someone is badly hurt then they want to take action. It doesn't make any sense whatsoever
@grantmcroberts4089 Жыл бұрын
It isn't they don't take it seriously the stalker has to commit violence or aggressive behaviour for it can be taken action. Sending someone gifts and constantly contacting them isn't enough evidence to stsrt charging the person. You think it is that easy to just listen to a complaint and arrest the person doesn't work like that. You need evidence to back up your argument and prove he is a threat.
@jenjones90 Жыл бұрын
@@grantmcroberts4089 they don't have to according to the law. Section 2 and 2a of the Harassment Act do not require violence or threats of. The issue with most cases is that the victim has little evidence. For example, they get messages online from anonymous accounts whom they suspect are the person, but how do they prove that? The police won't use their resources to investigate that even though they're the only ones that can prove it. So the victim usually has to wait until something worse happens before there is actual evidence which can lead to arrest or interview. And, in defence of the police, a huge number of stalking and harassment allegations turn out to be false or exaggerated, so when real victims come along they aren't as vigilant as they ought to be. I know a number of 101 operators who have said that every 5th call they take is someone making a stalking or harassment allegation, most of which are either extremely petty or a misinterpretation of the law. I've also seen some of these petty cases go through to court, examples of these being a man who was charged under section 2 for sending x10 texts to his ex gf, none of which were threatening and she was even responding to some of them! I saw another case where a guy had been dating someone for a while, she ghosted him, didn't block, didn't tell her to leave him alone. He was sending messages to check she was ok for a couple of weeks when he got a call from the police. The man was charged under section 2, lost his job as a teacher, and took his own life before the preliminary. I also saw one case where a person was charged under section 4 for sending a candle to their ex, whom they were still friends with. The new partner saw the package and the police were called and told it was an arson threat. So to say the police don't do anything is also not true. They pick and choose. But thank you for pointing out that the alleged victim needs evidence, so many people don't seem to understand this, nor do they understand that allegations of harassment and stalking are commonly used maliciously and can ruin people's lives. There is an evidence threshold for a reason, and whilst the legislation itself is lenient, to some degree it is important that not every person who sends a few messages etc is given a criminal record. That legislation was written back when there weren't so many methods of communication...instant messaging has resulted in a lot of people receiving "unwanted contact". A lot of people are committing harassment offences without even realising. And, as most harassment offences happen as a result of break ups, this is again something which has changed a lot since the law was passed. People now have constant access to their exes lives online via social media, snd young people are not taught how to deal with break ups. Back in the day if you broke up and didn't have the same circle of friends, it was much easier to forget and move on, as there wasn't access to that person's life at their fingertips. Nearly everyone I know looks up their exes online for months etc, which could technically be classed as cyberstalking.
@johnCenaFanSite Жыл бұрын
I don’t blame daisy for this she has right to be angry at the police people for not doing the job
@brettthomson-hunter8237 Жыл бұрын
Our trust in the police and justice system has completely eroded.
@ami5183 Жыл бұрын
And Daisy was the one who basically made a citizens arrest while they showed up to take the credit.
@johnCenaFanSite Жыл бұрын
@@ami5183 she has went to the police 2 oh 3 time and they didn’t listen her and refused the bail condition
@dynahvelvixin.8615 Жыл бұрын
Even Justin's own sister warned Daisy.
@jenjones90 Жыл бұрын
@@johnCenaFanSite refused the bail condition? He had bail conditions, one of which being not to contact her. That's why the police told him he had breached his bail when they arrested him?
@tmumvadi2002 Жыл бұрын
This almost reduced me to tears, this happens so much in real life. So many people can relate to these kinds of cases
@lifeguard2564 Жыл бұрын
Amazing performance by her. Award winning status right there.
@bajanb Жыл бұрын
Old Bill always waits until its too late! It's always until the person has done something! Brilliant acting tonight 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@tomprice9204 Жыл бұрын
Daisy saying wha we all think
@colmwalsh1655 Жыл бұрын
The way that she ate that last line oh my god what a queen
@chuckbracken Жыл бұрын
Omg.. go daisy
@crescentartdesigns Жыл бұрын
Daisy putting her foot down by being assertive
@Isafell2001 Жыл бұрын
Her acting is fantastic.
@acelister16 Жыл бұрын
2:06 You tell em Daisy
@XxDyneXxFreeEnergyx Жыл бұрын
The police and the court had an opportunity to prevent this from happening and they did nothing. I think daisy has gone off the deep end meaning the daisy everybody once knew is gone and she's now become this new personality?
@mxmmianaxo1160 Жыл бұрын
The police are a joke! I'm glad Daisy spoke up, they should be ashamed!😡
@amandahodgkinson7940 Жыл бұрын
Am going through similar to this,no one listens until it happens
@benwebster7221 Жыл бұрын
Flawless acting by Charlotte here!
@brettthomson-hunter8237 Жыл бұрын
100% agreed. You can just tell by the disgusted tone in her voice.
@rosscaw82 Жыл бұрын
Charlotte is a brilliant actress. I’m glad they gave her this storyline.
@Quacktheduckk Жыл бұрын
the whole episode was so nerve racking
@jlk760 Жыл бұрын
Agree. It’s not something having watched Corrie for over 45 years that was comfortable to watch. Reminded me of some of the scenes between Geoff and Yasmeen a couple of years ago that were equally uncomfortable but in a different context given that storyline. The journey now begins for Ryan I guess with his recovery, treatment and how he deals psychologically with the potential disfigurement.
@141Lav Жыл бұрын
What a brilliant actress at First I thought she was a bit flaky but she’s really come through and she really portrayed the parts this is what a lot of women go through and she really portrayed it good the police should listen more do we trust them anymore?
@hivemistressherguineapigfa8563 Жыл бұрын
Very well said Daisy! How many more must be harmed and/or killed?!😢
@abbieroseholden4174 Жыл бұрын
This is the best story Corrie has done in a long time who agrees? Better than Shite Stephen (The worst character and storyline), Sarah going after another man (again), Alya and Max with the racist storyline, Gary and Maria acting all high and mighty, Nick and Leanne with Damon drugs storyline, Summer moaning constantly, . Who agrees?
@jonathanfitzharris4196 Жыл бұрын
@Paul Woodhouse na Summer is a terrible character. I dunno what it is, she's just irritating to watch. My mum pure cant stand her either. Happy Amy is getting more screen time, much better character. Also
@jonathanfitzharris4196 Жыл бұрын
Stephen is the worst. Like not cause he's a villan, just cause he's rubbish. I liked the racism storyline though. Thought it was very fitting with the times
@XxDyneXxFreeEnergyx Жыл бұрын
@@jonathanfitzharris4196 Stephen is rubbish like a wheelie bin I see what you did there 😁
@matthewmedley1203 Жыл бұрын
A list of reasons why I stopped watching 18 months ago. Don't miss it to be honest.
@bradmoyse6162 Жыл бұрын
Can’t stand that actors voice who plays Stephen. He has the emotional range of a brick. Storyline is ridiculous.And this rape with Amy and Aaron !!!
@katefevre6222 Жыл бұрын
great acting Charlotte ! from NZ x
@emilysgottalent4806 Жыл бұрын
I really hope this'll make the Police take more action in stalking before it's too late
@jenjones90 Жыл бұрын
They actually take reports very seriously but you can't throw someone in prison for a non-violent offence or for something they haven't yet done. Even if she had got the SPO or if he had been arrested and charged with stalking her, this could and probably would still have happened. Stalking and harassment, at a low level, is very common. The police dish out harassment warnings or PINS every day, and restraining orders if they reach magistrates. Most suspects adhere to the conditions. But you only hear the bad stories about the people that don't. Justin was under bail conditions when this happened, so it was illegal for him to contact her (no different to the SPO she wasn't granted). The police can't predict when someone is going to turn violent, and they can't throw everyone accused of stalking or harassment in prison just in case they might be.
@mackenziemiller33 Жыл бұрын
Right arrest that man
@kirstyroche9346 Жыл бұрын
Yes Right arrested that man Justin Get Justin locked up in jail and prison for good this time
@Flygono03 Жыл бұрын
Griff should be freed. Justin can take his cell
@deldude1412 Жыл бұрын
@@Flygono03 Sounds about right.
@Flygono03 Жыл бұрын
@@deldude1412 What sounds about right?
@deldude1412 Жыл бұрын
@@Flygono03 "Justin can take his cell" couldn't agree more. Griff's the hero we need 🫡
@Hardz142 Жыл бұрын
What an amazing scene with amazing acting
@antwto8784 Жыл бұрын
They don't want to listen when you want them to listen But when its too late, all of a sudden they want to hear every word.
@rorymckernan8502 Жыл бұрын
Get Jack Branning down to Weatherfield. He's the only soap copper, that has common sense. He'd of figured out Justin long ago.
@dannni17x Жыл бұрын
Good on you daisy for telling them straight!! You deserved the happiest day of your life! Poor Ryan aswell! Absolute hat’s off to him for risking his life to save daisy he did not deserve the pain aswell😭😭 hope they catch Justin!😡
@dynahvelvixin.8615 Жыл бұрын
The police didn't take Daisy seriously they failed to do their job and both her and Ryan fell victim for it.
@dannni17x Жыл бұрын
@@dynahvelvixin.8615 agreed there!!!
@colmcoleman64212 ай бұрын
such brilliant acting daisy is amazing in that scene
@phillipbates9587 Жыл бұрын
Poor Daisy and Daniel wedding day is ruined
@supergeorge8603 Жыл бұрын
You can see how DS Swain is listening to Daisy ranting about the police doing nothing and you can see her thinking “yeah, you know what, she’s right.”
@95jujo4 ай бұрын
If Corrie thinks Daisy is a next carla. Think again. Ali king is second to none.
@ayeshamalak38310 ай бұрын
Well said daisy useless coppers
@Jodacro-it4zz Жыл бұрын
2:54 another thing that pisses me off, empty promises!
@harrysmith5721 Жыл бұрын
corrie did an amazing job with this storyline
@colmcoleman64218 ай бұрын
i remember watching this on tv and still watch it now such an amazing actress and abi and also policewoman sorry cant remember her name but it was an amazing scene and the lines where brilliant so realistic
@NNC93 Жыл бұрын
And that’s the police true this they know past charges and do nothing surely people with past history have to be shown more authority
@jetnight882 ай бұрын
The reason why it's ignored is because police want this to happen.... They want disasters to strike. They condone this
@ilovestitch899 Жыл бұрын
The police waited to long and Justin went way easy too far I feel so bad for Ryan and daisy
@Livinglife4thebetter Жыл бұрын
Maybe she should sue the police station
@Vic35102 Жыл бұрын
That's what happens in every one of these cases and every 1 of these cases the women have told them they're being spoke the women have told them the guy won't leave them alone in the end
@robp2282 Жыл бұрын
Police are too busy dancing these days.
@ayeshamalak38310 ай бұрын
Ds swain is the worst police officer on Corrie blaming max for what happened to Alya talking down to him like he is scum
@andrewbunch6599 Жыл бұрын
This storyline is the trust thing any soap has done they do nothing until it happens why just why if someone is terrified please don't hesitate to talk to me or anyone else I don't have much but I'll give you a life you deserve unlike them who don't get it just sad that this shit happens
@MrProbeNWatch Жыл бұрын
What makes this worse is a female lead on the case who, probably from her individual perspective and mindset wwe able to see the dangers but unable to act due to the laws in place.
@roxeys_reality_check8 ай бұрын
This is the truth about the police unfortunately they do very little until it's too late, they did very little in my case it just wasn't taken as seriously as it should have been, the laws need to change and be acted upon.
@alexmarman619 Жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, this is the state of modern policing in the UK. You report wrongdoing but they do nothing until it is too late and something terrible happens. They are very good at doing nothing and let down the victims of crime again and again. There are probably plenty of police out there, but based on what I have seen in real life, they will all be at the cafe rather than fighting crime. My car has been targeted x2 times and despite both incidents being captured on CCTV cameras showing the crimes being committed, I have just been told each time by the Police, that they will not be pressing any charges against the perpetrators and no further action will be taken. Just been left to deal with the consequences of my car being damaged and having valuables stolen whilst the perpetrators get away with committing a crime against me with no consequences. For once, Coronation Street does something good in terms of holding a mirror up to modern day policing, where they are constantly letting the victims of crime down by doing nothing.
@arthurkinnie5042 Жыл бұрын
Poor Daisy But Ill Miss The Vilian Justin
@dynahvelvixin.86155 ай бұрын
I'm sure it be a kick in the teeth for Justin that Daisy is now with Ryan.
@robbieodonovan44 Жыл бұрын
This Coronation Street people, the police don't do anything unless the writers decide they want them to lol
@crystalclarke6692 Жыл бұрын
What did he do to her
@TheSexybabe1978 Жыл бұрын
He stalked her for months and threw acid but Ryan saved her by jumping infront and he got the full acid on his face
@thelordofpainandsuffering8480 Жыл бұрын
@@TheSexybabe1978 That's absolutely brutal for Ryan though. The boy has been out of luck for years, and now this. This kid can't a break on the show, Goddamn 😔🤦♂
@MaisieThomas-zc9ef Жыл бұрын
Poor daisy but Justin was pathetic stalker I am glad they caught him from Maisie Thomas I have a boyfriend Charlie Roberts xxxx
@scmtuk3662 Жыл бұрын
The police (at least in Corrie) are a bit like Surrey County Council (or probably a lot of other councils) and whoever is in charge of highways. Oh there's a road that's in a very poor state? Nah, it's fine. A biker loses their life because they hit the pothole and it threw them off the bike and they hit their head? Suddenly, it gets resurfaced. There's a crossing near a school that is dangerous? It's not important. A child gets hit and ends up in hospital? OK, NOW let's add traffic lights. But then, wasn't this basically the approach to the pandemic? Instead of, you know, preventing anything, it's more "OK, it's getting bad... let's see how bad it gets first..... OK, I think a few thousand deaths is enough. Let's lockdown". And "OMG, the number of deaths has dropped below 1,000! END THE LOCKDOWN!"