They arrest people for criminal intent, if the police catch you preparing to rob a bank ,they will arrest you, before you rob the bank.

They do prevent crime tho

I hate the police but in the context of what Justin had actually done, I don't know what action they could have taken to prevent this other than have him sectioned. If she had got the SPO he wouldn't have been locked up and would have breached it, if he had been arrested for stalking her he would have been given bail conditions, which is no different to what happened after the assault charge. He could have done this in either of those situations. As Adam said, you can't just lock everyone up, especially based on what they MIGHT do.

@@jenjones90 He didn’t just go from the hospital to doing this. It has been building up, but the point is PREVENTION, not a clean up. How are people supposed to feel safe if people are allowed to this? The police don’t understand what stalking actually is. They believe the stalker at their word (because they aren’t going to admit to it), but not the victim. There are laws in place that the police don’t actually follow, as claimed by victims of stalking.

​​​​​@@JungianHeights Could you tell me what the police could have actually done to prevent this incident? I understand your points but what actions could they have taken which could have stopped this? Even if the police had followed the laws (you're talking about section 2a and section 4 of the harassment act 1998) and got the relevant protection orders in place, they could not have prevented this based on what he had already done. What I think they should have done was section him under 136 of the MHA as that would have been the only way of keeping him in a secure unit without him having committed or threatened to commit a violent offence. Also, it isn't that they believe the suspect, but you can't get someone arrested let alone charged without evidence. People make stalking allegations every day to the police with no evidence, most of them are false or malicious. You can't just believe someone who makes an allegation. Not charging the person or not arresting them doesn't mean the police believe them or believe the victim, but the burden of proof is on the victim. If it is just one person's word against the other's they cannot just charge and criminalise someone based on the word of the victim. I had nude pics of me put online before, and it was quite clear to me that my ex either did it or distributed the photos for someone else to do so. I had men calling me cause my number was included with them. I had guys I didn't know turning up at my house. The most the police could do was interview my ex over that, cause I had no evidence to directly connect it to him in any way. FYI, Daisy DID have evidence to prove harassment under section 2 or stalking under section 2a. Those are both summary offences. At most he would have been charged, been given a restraining order at magistrates and a non-custodial if it was his first offence. Obviously the police were useless and failed to recognise her evidence (they could have proven harassment if not stalking), but what she needed was evidence under section 4 to stand any chance of him being held on remand and to receive a custodial. She had no evidence under section 4. He clearly didn't care about his criminal record etc so he would have had no incentive to adhere to any restraining orders so in that situation this would still have happened.

YESSSS LITERALLY IM GETTING FED UP WITH POLICE NOT BELIEVING ANYONE

@@thomasking8733 do it In real life though. Like literally because police do nothing people get hurt or end up dead

@@abbieroseholden4174 literally every day every hour every minute every second someone in the world gets killed … or gets hurt like that it’s so sad how the worlds become these days

@@thomasking8733 not condoning it but that's why people take law into their own hands

@@abbieroseholden4174 no but literally but then THEY get arrested 💀

It's extremely frustrating that the police never took Daisy seriously with her reports about this psychotic monster. The guy was dating her biological mother, sending unwanted gifts at the pub, calling from a withheld number to her phone, creeping around on the street where she lives on Coronation Street for months, etc. He needed to be locked away or given a restraining order if he got close to her. I knew something of this magnitude would happen and this highlights why ppl don't trust the police when things like this happen.

@@thelordofpainandsuffering8480 he also broke into her house

​@@MrBadBoy2105 he walked through an unlocked door, not the same as breaking in unfortunately.

@@jenjones90 he still came into her house uninvited

​​@@MrBadBoy2105 yeah it isn't a crime. Same happened to me when I was at uni. Trespassing only becomes a crime if the person refuses to leave when the police asks them to.

It is woke rubbish.

It's not that they don't care. It's that they actually can't do much. This is minority report

The police failed to take Dasiy seriously and her and Ryan two innocent people whose falling victim for their lack of doing their job right.

Craig probably stopped off for a quarter pounder meal during his search

@@Flygono03 Craig’s response I’m looking for Justin Daisy me and my team are doing our very best.

Craig is a peice of shit of a copper he is literally on the block and yet everything under the sun get passed him only time he reacts is when something occurs in front of him he is like an old school copper doesnt take the intiative or additional concern into his neighbors matter now if it was faye he be going extra Mile for her

@@Tad1945 He definitely aint Ash ketchum! Ooooooh I made a Funny!!!!!!!!

Couldn't even catch Toyah or Gary for murdering people!!!

The damage has been done.

It isn't they don't take it seriously the stalker has to commit violence or aggressive behaviour for it can be taken action. Sending someone gifts and constantly contacting them isn't enough evidence to stsrt charging the person. You think it is that easy to just listen to a complaint and arrest the person doesn't work like that. You need evidence to back up your argument and prove he is a threat.

​​​​​​@@grantmcroberts4089 they don't have to according to the law. Section 2 and 2a of the Harassment Act do not require violence or threats of. The issue with most cases is that the victim has little evidence. For example, they get messages online from anonymous accounts whom they suspect are the person, but how do they prove that? The police won't use their resources to investigate that even though they're the only ones that can prove it. So the victim usually has to wait until something worse happens before there is actual evidence which can lead to arrest or interview. And, in defence of the police, a huge number of stalking and harassment allegations turn out to be false or exaggerated, so when real victims come along they aren't as vigilant as they ought to be. I know a number of 101 operators who have said that every 5th call they take is someone making a stalking or harassment allegation, most of which are either extremely petty or a misinterpretation of the law. I've also seen some of these petty cases go through to court, examples of these being a man who was charged under section 2 for sending x10 texts to his ex gf, none of which were threatening and she was even responding to some of them! I saw another case where a guy had been dating someone for a while, she ghosted him, didn't block, didn't tell her to leave him alone. He was sending messages to check she was ok for a couple of weeks when he got a call from the police. The man was charged under section 2, lost his job as a teacher, and took his own life before the preliminary. I also saw one case where a person was charged under section 4 for sending a candle to their ex, whom they were still friends with. The new partner saw the package and the police were called and told it was an arson threat. So to say the police don't do anything is also not true. They pick and choose. But thank you for pointing out that the alleged victim needs evidence, so many people don't seem to understand this, nor do they understand that allegations of harassment and stalking are commonly used maliciously and can ruin people's lives. There is an evidence threshold for a reason, and whilst the legislation itself is lenient, to some degree it is important that not every person who sends a few messages etc is given a criminal record. That legislation was written back when there weren't so many methods of communication...instant messaging has resulted in a lot of people receiving "unwanted contact". A lot of people are committing harassment offences without even realising. And, as most harassment offences happen as a result of break ups, this is again something which has changed a lot since the law was passed. People now have constant access to their exes lives online via social media, snd young people are not taught how to deal with break ups. Back in the day if you broke up and didn't have the same circle of friends, it was much easier to forget and move on, as there wasn't access to that person's life at their fingertips. Nearly everyone I know looks up their exes online for months etc, which could technically be classed as cyberstalking.

Our trust in the police and justice system has completely eroded.

And Daisy was the one who basically made a citizens arrest while they showed up to take the credit.

@@ami5183 she has went to the police 2 oh 3 time and they didn’t listen her and refused the bail condition

Even Justin's own sister warned Daisy.

​@@johnCenaFanSite refused the bail condition? He had bail conditions, one of which being not to contact her. That's why the police told him he had breached his bail when they arrested him?

100% agreed. You can just tell by the disgusted tone in her voice.

Agree. It’s not something having watched Corrie for over 45 years that was comfortable to watch. Reminded me of some of the scenes between Geoff and Yasmeen a couple of years ago that were equally uncomfortable but in a different context given that storyline. The journey now begins for Ryan I guess with his recovery, treatment and how he deals psychologically with the potential disfigurement.

​@Paul Woodhouse na Summer is a terrible character. I dunno what it is, she's just irritating to watch. My mum pure cant stand her either. Happy Amy is getting more screen time, much better character. Also

Stephen is the worst. Like not cause he's a villan, just cause he's rubbish. I liked the racism storyline though. Thought it was very fitting with the times

@@jonathanfitzharris4196 Stephen is rubbish like a wheelie bin I see what you did there 😁

A list of reasons why I stopped watching 18 months ago. Don't miss it to be honest.

Can’t stand that actors voice who plays Stephen. He has the emotional range of a brick. Storyline is ridiculous.And this rape with Amy and Aaron !!!

They actually take reports very seriously but you can't throw someone in prison for a non-violent offence or for something they haven't yet done. Even if she had got the SPO or if he had been arrested and charged with stalking her, this could and probably would still have happened. Stalking and harassment, at a low level, is very common. The police dish out harassment warnings or PINS every day, and restraining orders if they reach magistrates. Most suspects adhere to the conditions. But you only hear the bad stories about the people that don't. Justin was under bail conditions when this happened, so it was illegal for him to contact her (no different to the SPO she wasn't granted). The police can't predict when someone is going to turn violent, and they can't throw everyone accused of stalking or harassment in prison just in case they might be.

Yes Right arrested that man Justin Get Justin locked up in jail and prison for good this time

Griff should be freed. Justin can take his cell

​@@Flygono03 Sounds about right.

@@deldude1412 What sounds about right?

@@Flygono03 "Justin can take his cell" couldn't agree more. Griff's the hero we need 🫡

The police didn't take Daisy seriously they failed to do their job and both her and Ryan fell victim for it.

@@dynahvelvixin.8615 agreed there!!!

I'm sure it be a kick in the teeth for Justin that Daisy is now with Ryan.

He stalked her for months and threw acid but Ryan saved her by jumping infront and he got the full acid on his face

@@TheSexybabe1978 That's absolutely brutal for Ryan though. The boy has been out of luck for years, and now this. This kid can't a break on the show, Goddamn 😔🤦‍♂