Star Citizen 3.23.1 Hull C Bulk Cargo Guide

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This video will explore the bulk cargo transport mechanics in Star Citizen alpha version 3.23.1. By following along with these steps you'll be able to make approximately 500,000 aUEC per hour, and learn all the intricacies, bugs, and workarounds of bulk cargo transport with the MISC Hull C.
I wanted to make this video with workarounds included, with hopes that it might gain enough attention for CIG to see what a sorry state the Hull C is in. Considering 3.23.2 will be cargo-focused, it would be amazing to see some Hull C fixes!
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Timestamps below for easy access!
00:00 - Intro
01:06 - Cargo Ship Progression Tier List
03:50 - Star Citizen Referral Program
04:18 - Setup Your Character
04:40 - Ship System Upgrades
05:00 - Retrieving Your Hull C (and workarounds)
06:24 - Start Your Engines and Depart Station
06:41 - Order Cargo from Admin Commodity Kiosk (and workarounds)
07:43 - Avoiding Catastrophe While Bed Logging
08:02 - Complete Purchasing Your Cargo from Admin
08:11 - Contact Station Cargo Deck for Deck Assignment
08:26 - Locate Your Loading Deck Assignment Area
08:32 - Extend Your Cargo Spindle
08:42 - Load Your Cargo (and workaround for ship movement error)
09:08 - Departing Cargo Area (don't get impounded)
09:17 - Star Map Routing and Quantum Travel to Destination
09:26 - Arriving at Destination Station
09:48 - Arrange Sale with Station Admin Commodity Kiosk
09:54 - Contact Station Cargo and Unload
10:18 - What Commodities Should You Trade and Resources
11:10 - Credits and Outro

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@MrDangerUXO Ай бұрын

A couple of additions I've had to do are: for proper spindle deployment, I always do an external view to ensure they are not bugged, when trying to remain stationary in the cargo loading/unloading position cube, I come to a complete stop, power down engines, then power them back on. Thanks for putting this video together. Finally, I would recommend and encourage Hull C owners to get on the issue council and report / upvote all of the gameplay issues with the ship.

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

This is a good recommendation, I normally do it in third person as well, just in the interest of time I cut that in my edit. Perhaps I should have left it in. I've also found that if your landing gear is down while spindles are extended the cargo deck tends to not like it.

@SpardaKnightz Ай бұрын

Great video, im really glad you covered the issues with docking collars and how to get around them. Good work.

@gatorpika Ай бұрын

Nice vid, thanks! Appreciate all the workarounds.

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

👍 I'm glad it helped!

@stundardutch5320 Ай бұрын

Hull C is so broken and bugged... Hope they will fix it. great vid

@recaplrg3552 Ай бұрын

And with that, hopefully, also fix the economy. 500k an hour is so sad knowing that RMC lands a C2 about 1.9m in under 30 minutes. RMC should step down as King of traded materials, better if RMC would be sparcely sold (less than gold) and mainly produced from salvaging. The other commodities also need adjusting imO.

@brohimself7017 29 күн бұрын

@@recaplrg3552one c2 full stock RMC run lands you at around 4.9M and you can just keep swapping between Lorville and Rappel on crusader

@gustavlantz Ай бұрын

Holy moly how cumbersome getting and loading the Hull C seems to be. I'm glad that I have had a hiatus from SC for a while, seems I should wait a bit longer. Thank you for an interesting and well made video!

@Imdv Ай бұрын

I personally would add the Mercury Star Runner to the B-Tier aswell. 114 SCU of is not the most, but it has nearly 10k Liters of QT-Fuel in comparison to the 2.7K of the Max and the 3K of the Taurus.

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

The MSR is awesome! I tried to limit the list to the most common and/or obvious ships for cargo transport. I know it's not definitive, but this was just to show the natural ship progression before getting to the Hull C.

@Power5 Ай бұрын

How are these most obvious and does not include the RAFT in Tier C? Cutty Black is one of the most obvious multirole cargo ships in game and a ship that almost everyone in game has flown at some point. Kore is not on list, yet has same capacity as 135 and is cheaper. Also forgot the Corsair for tier C. I have no idea what criteria you used, but it was quite flawed. I do not understand how you can call it a progression and forget some of the most obvious and common. Hope the rest of the video gets better. Got some great visuals in that intro from SC cips.

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

@@Power5 it's not meant to be definitive by any means, as mentioned in the video. Just a highlight of the natural progressing someone may take if sticking to ships actually labeled as freight/cargo on the CIG site.

@Power5 Ай бұрын

@@Cortexian was trying to give suggestions since channel is new. Hope my posts did not come off too harsh

@sashomedia Ай бұрын

Will definitely take advantage of the referral code. Thank you for sharing!

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

You bet sasho!

@LukeKillen Ай бұрын

Maybe put an Origin 315P into the top of the D tier or bottom of C tier with 12SCU of storage? it's also really fast. Like the Nomad, it's a good early patch vice runner.

@Zodaxa_zdx Ай бұрын

love the amount of people going off about the tier list lmao, it's simply to show that having about 100x more storage than any other ship, really sets it apart for it's own kind of cargo trading. lovely guide on the nuances of trying to use the ship none the less, unfortunate that the gameplay loop for this just doesn't really exist yet, jpeg turned flyable too soon

@JojenPaste Ай бұрын

I would've included the Pisces Expedition, Cutlass Black, and the RAFT in the C and D tiers. None of them are going to win any awards when it comes to large cargo running but Pisces is a direct competitor to the Cutter. And the RAFT while slower, can run 96scu and you'll rarely have to fuel up, so your fuel costs over time are much lower. And of course the Cutlass Black is probably the best all round ship in the game that holds almost twice the SCU of the Nomad.

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

Yup! As I said there are definitely more options, it was just a general idea of the progression of cargo ships up to the Hull C. I'll probably do another video on regular cargo trading once 3.23.2 is out and we have cargo missions. I'll make a more complete tier list for that video where it's relevant.

@nyquildays Ай бұрын

The best way to fly the Hull C is to not fly it at all. I spent hours and ran into every bug there was. I tried different stations and servers. I finally got into one and got to where I was going to buy. Then landed at cargo area and the elevators wouldn't work, so i eva'd to all the cargo areas to the same effect. I tried to dock and that was a no go until I was blown to pieces trying to get out the damn "blocking" zone one second after failed docking. A whole day of waste.

@FalconsRidge Ай бұрын

Enjoyed the video, but felt the MSR deserved a mention somewhere as cargo is the primary thing it can do right now.

@MrYorkiepudd Ай бұрын

i've had nothing but trouble with the hull c ... ive lost millions due to bugs ... so i think i'll stick to the C2 at the moment

@lordanubis5965 29 күн бұрын

is a consideration for trade tools to set your locations to only Legrange and Space stations as you can't load up on unload a planet or moon?

@Cortexian 28 күн бұрын

Yes absolutely! I can't believe I forgot to include this in the video. Especially for the Hull C this is absolutely required. If docking port tech ever becomes more reliable, you would also be able to include Orison as a possible trade location.

@magosryzak7477 Ай бұрын

Another option for 'bulk' trading is an 890j. Yes it 'only' fits 400 odd scu of cargo on it's grid, but with some suspect placement of boxes you can fit 1500 SCU easily inside using the hangar and engineering. Use with an mpuv tractor to make moving boxes a breeze. This is most applicable to those who do bounties as ERTs and Extreme risk Vaughn missions have a good chance for valuable cargos and after you smash through the opposition you can come out with the mpuv tractor and move boxes around. Note: the most valuable of the salvaged cargo from these missions will be drugs, and those drugs are best sold at scrap yards where pvp can be a factor. Be aware.

@veger2001 11 күн бұрын

9:41 When you head straight into the landing pad to sell cargo do you call the station in order for the station to know that your ship is actually there or does it know due to your proximity ?

@Cortexian 11 күн бұрын

@@veger2001 the stations will detect the cargo in the ship based on proximity.

@veger2001 11 күн бұрын

@@Cortexian oh ok great thank you :)

@Armory508 Ай бұрын

can you sell cargo from a hull C at any station? and if not, how do you know if it accepts a hull C transaction before you waste the time to go there?

@CopperRavenProductions Ай бұрын

It is telling me I must dock at a cargo port. It will not let me sell my material. Edit: the cargo coms comes up for a split second. Then poof over and over. It will not connect. I am broke and this is my very first run lol 😢

@vrstary 2 күн бұрын

Also if you don't want to deal with docking ports at all then just load your Hull C at New Babbage, Hurston or any place that will load it into a extra-large hanger which should be fine as long as you don't open the spindles inside lol

@Cortexian 6 сағат бұрын

I haven't checked in the most recent patches, but it was bugged and only allowing the Hull-C to spawn via docking port at the time. No hanger locations regardless of size would allow it to spawn.

@NavarreSiberis Ай бұрын

What would you do if you wanted to sell at Orison? Would you just be stuck using the docking port?

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

Unfortunately yes, so I avoid it at all costs right now. Many of the workarounds regarding spawning and docking ports require EVA, so if you're at Orison you're SOL.

@MarkWolford-on6us 27 күн бұрын

Cortexian. I have been trying all weekend to deploy my Hull C from a Station and I either get the bug where the docking port doesn't connect to my ship or I get a message that all pads are full. Is anyone else experiencing this problem? I tried your work around but thats when I get the Error that all pads are full. I also found that I can no longer deploy from Lorville in Hurston.

@Cortexian 27 күн бұрын

You can't retrieve it from any planet right now, only locations with docking ports. You're getting the "all pads full" error because people attempt to retrieve, get the big, then just leave their bugged ship there instead of fixing it.

@MarkWolford-on6us 27 күн бұрын

@@Cortexian Understood. I just called my freelancer max to a pad then tried calling the Hull C. The freelancer Max went back to storage on its own and the Hull C showed up at Port 2. No way to get to it unless I space walk or call another ship to fly to it. So I shut the game down and heading to bed. Just getting disappointed in the whole thing.

@PoisonousHunter Ай бұрын

Hey.. do you possibly know the real best way for the hull c because trading routes show me drugs and its really not gonna work

@jeremy20444 Ай бұрын

Zeus mkII CL on B and Railen ? A or B ?

@Power5 Ай бұрын

Not flown a Hull C, still waiting on my Hull B. Not sure why CIG would spawn the C at the docking port if it is empty. Why not spawn it on the same pad as a 600i. Or give it the Cat or Carrack pad. Why is a ship of the Hull C size being relegated to the docking port?

@SeaRaven227 Ай бұрын

Just spawn it at a planet until they figure their shit out...

@user-qg5df8zc5s Ай бұрын

Basically dont bother doing cargo hauling with Hull C until issues are fixed.

@yesthehandymancan Ай бұрын

Might be better too when they add cargo missions for it to, risking such high amounts of credits with bugs seems unfun

@sirannikus Ай бұрын

Alternatively, if you want to maximise style, sexiness, self respect and enjoyability over profits then go with the ARGO Raft! Raft pilots get more dates!

@ViniciusConsorte Ай бұрын

Some minor wrong values in cargo capacity: Taurus = 174 Herc C2 = 696 Great guide on numerous workarounds for a ship thats 1 year into the game and they did not bother to fix any of the problems for the only use of that ship... shame!

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

All my values were pulled directly from the ship pledge pages on robertsspaceindustries.com, so that's interesting!

@NavarreSiberis Ай бұрын

I don't know why the rsi website is wrong, but as someone who uses the C2 several times per week, Vinicius is correct, it definitely has 696

@Space_G00N Ай бұрын

Great vid but just wanna put it out there you can force ships like the hull C to spawn in hanger by spawning a different ship going back into the ASOP terminal and then spawning the the hull c while the other ship is still in spawned in a hanger.

@petterderter6354 Ай бұрын

DOESNT WORK ANYMORE

@Space_G00N Ай бұрын

@@petterderter6354worked for me the other day with the hammerhead

@Space_G00N Ай бұрын

@@petterderter6354 I did it the other day with a hammerhead

@morningTCG Ай бұрын

The elevators at the pads sometimes never show up. You recommend bed logging with full cargo or nah lol

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

I've had success trying other pads at the station. I believe the pad elevators don't arrive when the server is struggling (aka just about to SERVER ERROR, but trying to recover). I've successfully bed logged several times with full cargo while making this video.

@eddiemarohl5789 Ай бұрын

I've had mixed results bedlogging with cargo but if the bedlog is what fixes an issue then it's better to do that than lose a load to a bug.

@morningTCG Ай бұрын

@@eddiemarohl5789 I’m -3 mil net income with hullc some of the bugs I can’t figure a work around especially the one where it just won’t start loafing cargo on the ship no matter where I am in the cargo grid. Its technically playable but huge time sync fighting bugs

@eddiemarohl5789 Ай бұрын

@morningTCG best fix is a low population server. I only use the hull c on servers with 60 or fewer people. Additionally, there's less chance for pirates, but that's a happy accident. Otherwise I would stick to certain stations seraphim works for both and baijini works for unloading at least.

@morningTCG Ай бұрын

@@eddiemarohl5789 no one pirates hullc really because it’s such little money unless they bring their own hull c and move all 4600 scu it’s just not realistic. It’s more opportunistic ass head players that mess with hull c not your typical pirate. I mainly pirate lol

@ChrisRollason Ай бұрын

Other than walking around my Hull-C. I'm much too scared to take it out... Maybe next patch!

@alandab Ай бұрын

You forgot the Cutlass, Starfarer and the Carrack. Two of which are some of the MOST popular ships in the game.

@frizzbri8224 Ай бұрын

what are you favorite routes in your hull c?

@eddiemarohl5789 Ай бұрын

Seraphim hydrogen to baijini then processed food back. Nets about 400k per loop. Alternativly you can loop between everus terra and baijini which nets more per loop but takes more time.

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

This is the way. There's a loop you can do to hit every station if you plan it out, and I hope that in the future cargo missions will do something to take into account the "chaining" of longer routes together to make it worth it!

@eddiemarohl5789 Ай бұрын

@@Cortexian i'm so looking forward to cargo missions. Was really bummed when they were pushed back

@A_WIND Ай бұрын

Just wanted to know what the name of the paint at 5:15 is.

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

Horizon livery I believe!

@jimjam4866 Ай бұрын

Wow how many breaks and bugs?

@darkfae2002 Ай бұрын

update: Cutty is in the fleet view at the end, must of just missed in in the Tier list curious as to why the Cutty Black wasn't mentioned, while it's mostly looked at for it's combat, it does hold a respectable about of cargo. i'd put it with the C1 and base freelancer, and label it as high risk cargo hauler, ala Titan.

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

As mentioned, it's not a definitive tier list, was just to give a general idea of common ships used for the cargo gameplay progression. I agree that the Cutty Black is a wicked ship.

@Power5 Ай бұрын

Probably a less controversial format would have been to rank all cargo ships into tiers and then offer your suggestion of how to progress through the tiers with ingame ship purchases.

@madknox4666 Ай бұрын

Do this if that happend do that if this happend if this wont work do this if that wont work do that, Ill just get a C2 dosent come with a mile long list of workarounds.....

@ErickXavier Ай бұрын

You forgot the Drake Corsair... with 72 SCU and the hability to defend itself (assuming the pilot is good, of course).

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

It wasn't meant to be a definitive list, I picked the most common ships that are actually defined as freight/transport ships by CIG. Just a tier list showing typical progression.

@chuckleberrygaming849 Ай бұрын

You forgot the Cutty Black. You can actually make some money trading with the Cutty Black, too.

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

It's not meant to be a definitive list, just a highlight of the ships in the natural cargo transport game loop. All these ships are actually classed as freight/transport on the CIG site. I don't believe the Cutty is. It's a great ship though!

@Kosty19 Ай бұрын

So You actually can use the Hull-C? Isn't it still completely bugged and unusable?

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

It's very bugged, but there seems to be workarounds for most things now. Hopefully someone at CIG eventually see's this and realizes just how many parts of the bulk cargo game loop are broken.

@Kosty19 Ай бұрын

@@Cortexian I see. Thx!

@alpha_knugen8335 25 күн бұрын

I have not yet watched the entire video so i might edit my comment but from the pure lack of "good" resources to buy and sell at stations i think the C2 Hercules is better then the Hull C. Might be safer due to the lower potential.

@ATC_Forgiven Ай бұрын

Can you tell me what armor you're using at 4. 25?

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

Absolutely! It's the ORC-mkX Singularity Core/Arms/Legs, with a Morozov-SH Redshift helmet and a red Aril backpack.

@ATC_Forgiven Ай бұрын

@@Cortexian nice ty!

@VladMcCain Ай бұрын

I dislike the hull c, besides the issue discussed, limited docking. I also dislike having all the cargo external. Tho it makes it easier to gank it

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

From a realism perspective it makes a lot of sense for a space-freighter. But there are definitely needs for armored transports, hence the Ironclad!

@404-Err0r Ай бұрын

Fantastic video, and the next section is aimed at CIG and not you..... hahahahahah you serious?? Take my advice and just stay away from the Hull C. CIG have not planned for this ship to be in game and clearly the game play is more of a chore than enjoyment. Between all the work around to get your cargo and the servers failing due to 30ks and other performance issues. The Hull C will is the best ship for you to loose all your money... Stick to small ships doing smaller but more valuable hauls for the moment. Do this until CIG can "unsuck" their own game and actually make the HULL C a useful ship. And don't go flying this ship as soon as 3.23.x comes out with cargo refractor, the amount of bugs will be insurmountable.

@DavidRJones82 Ай бұрын

🤔🤔🤔 cutty black not on the list? Invalidated.

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

As mentioned, not meant to be a definitive list, just showing the natural progression of most ships labeled as freight or transport by CIG. Cutty Black is truely great!

@alandab Ай бұрын

@@Cortexian Who cares about labels. The fact is the ship holds a decent amount of cargo; is the most popular among the list shown; and is as capable as any of the ships it would compete with. Your list is straight-up bonkers!

@chrishoppner150 Ай бұрын

3.23 Hull C Guide: Buy a different ship They've clearly stated they have no plans whatsoever to do anything with the Hull C regarding the upcoming cargo changes in 3.23.2 by the way.

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

They actually made an open request to the community requesting feedback on the Hull C 'to make it the best ship it can be'.

@chrishoppner150 Ай бұрын

@@Cortexian They did? I completely missed that. On Spectrum, or somewhere else?

@oOWaschBaerOo Ай бұрын

just no, the whole ship is bugged and can randomly loose all physics inside one of the 2 halfs, causing the cargo and ship to be lost

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

I haven't experienced this since 3.23 dropped. They fixed a few bugs related to falling through the ship and/or the ship interior refusing to render.

@LordCritish Ай бұрын

Nice guide but the fact that 75% of the video talks about how to evade all the game-breaking bugs with the Hull-C and its associated cargo hauling game loop during which you can easily lose your millions that you've just invested JUST to make a possible profit of 500k (under the best given circumstances) pretty much makes the point to instead not go through all the trouble. Instead play Star Citizen in the only way that not results in utter frustration: go naked or wear the white noob suit, take nothing with you, don't do trading, don't do salvaging (server errors will likely ruin it), don't plan, just go jolly, don't expect anything to work or any profit from anything. It's less frustrating!

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

Yes, the point was to hopefully gain enough traction that the devs see how broken the Hull C actually is. They asked for some focused Hull C feedback recently to try and 'make the Hull C the best it can be'.

@c4tze 6 сағат бұрын

the drake ironclad will fuck up your list with its hangar start n land 1500scu

@Cortexian 6 сағат бұрын

@@c4tze I agree, it'll mix things up! I only focused on the ships officially listed as freight/cargo and actually in game. The Ironclad wasn't even announced when this video was released and it's still a concept.

@wilhelmwick2038 Ай бұрын

Where’s the RAFT ???

@vik12D Ай бұрын

Moving space poop!

@ErickXavier Ай бұрын

Supposing you can even spawn your Hull C correctly 😢 because mine keeps spawning completely the station or completely disconnected from the station. Here your like... anyways ;)

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

I covered that in the video :)

@zenoidul Ай бұрын

Keep it at GrimHex, they don’t have docking ports and you don’t need to exit atmo!

@zefnoly9147 Ай бұрын

Too bad trading is a painfull chore now. You can hardly sell your goods anywhere due to duping bug. And any of the valuable stuff you can sell without having to land/visit unsafe areas are out of stock (like gold) so building up your money is a chore now. at best I can make 100-200k a trip, which is annoying when your income stagnates there... it means 5 trips to make one mill and that can easily take more than an hour with wait times, stock issues due to tuping etc... They need to fix the demand system.

@dylanprinsloo5568 Ай бұрын

Hang on only 500k profit per hour na that can't be right. My spirit can easily do that in like 3 or 4 trips in less than an hour how the fuck is the hull c only getting that much. The real number should be more like 50 million per hour

@Cortexian Ай бұрын

You're limited to commodities bought/sold at space stations with the HullC, so it limits your profit margins.

@dylanprinsloo5568 Ай бұрын

@@Cortexian i alao think we're talking about different cargo coz I was trading drugs and u might be trading more legit goods so that could also explain it