Every supervisor just looks like that, like nurse joy from pokemon

The Peter principle.

😂😂

lives dont count.. stocks do!

Nepotism

I need to go back and rewatch some of his more infamous episodes (Chernobyl, anyone?) to retroactively see if they completely would have filled the Bongi...er, Nobig...Bingo, that's it! Bingo card...

@@tcpratt1660 Pretty sure Chernobyl would cover everything but "Legacy Infrastructure", since it was still quite new...

Where can we get our own bingo cards so we can play along?

@@herbcraven7146save the image of the Bingo card (image capture software or screenshot) and print it out.

Lmao, I lol'd at antimatter toothpaste 😂

Thank you.

Thank you for clarifying that, I wasn't sure if it was a specialized term or a typo.

Thanks for the education.

Thank you for that explanation of that mine-specific technical term. I hadn't encountered it before.

Can we subscribe twice??? With a different identity? How about our pet hamster??

I can make like 50 accounts. I can help

I dont know 6000 people though! Delivery drivers included!

I would say my job is to give out pizza parties but they don't even do that lol 😅😢

I'm getting serious "PewDiePie vs T-Series" nostalgia vibes right now

What did they do for water? A human can only (barely) survive for ~72 hours without water, and IIRC they were down there for ~173 hours, plus however much of their shift they worked beforehand. Were there stores of water and food cached for such situations?

@@Archangelm127 There are emergency shelters in mines that typically are stocked for this sort of disaster

There was underground water pumped in from above in fire suppression pipes They may have been able to tap into, plus I imagine there was a underground supply of water. I could be 100% wrong though I'm just some guy on the internet😊

Underground is dripping wet. I remember water pouring down the shaft like heavy rain. For food, the two ventured out and found lunchboxes of their dead coworkers. Kinda grim, but the survived. For fresh air, there was a borehole at the end of the drift they sheltered in that brought air from the surface and kept the bad air out of the drift.

@@douglaschamberlain9773 Damn. Thanks for expanding on this for us. 😕

He said there were no smoking areas but I would have thought all mines should have a ban on smoking.

Was centralia an anthracite mine?

He does a great job.

I grew up in Coeur d’Alene and recall that time vividly. This is the most accurate and complete coverage of the disaster I’ve ever seen. Well told as well.

There is a professional historian named Gregg Olsen who wrote a book called The Deep Dark about the disaster that is excellent as well.

@@charlottehagen8415 I’ve read Starvation Heights by him. I’ll have to look up that one.

Hello fellow Spokanite!

It sounds like for most extreme environment professions, submarines, mining, space exploration, the biggest threat is almost always still fire.

@@itsmeian17 Aviation too. But yea, when in an extreme environment, we create a small bubble of normal environment for us to exist in, and fire can very quickly eat though the usable resources in such a small bubble

I'm lucky to work at a place that doesn't need a plan. Just get out of the building. Because I don't know who is in charge during normal working hours, let alone during an emergency.

That's interesting ill have to have a dig into it thank you!!

@@PlainlyDifficult Look up Mark Langvard he is the fireman whose death inspired the denver drill. He became trapped during a fire, and his fellow fireman couldn't get him out until it was too late. Now every fire department in the nation (and world wide now) have developed rapid intervention teams to rescue a trapped fireman, or if rescue at moment is not possible, at least get fresh air to him/her. The Denver Drill (and it's variations) were developed to get a victim- firefighter or otherwise- out of a confined space quickly and safely- it's skill/drill every firefighter in the US needs to learn/prefect to become a certified firefighter. It and common variations of it are practiced often.

I'm very curious too! I grew up while my grandfather was Deputy Chief of our local Fire Department, and he had stories about fighting fires just about everywhere but in a mine, thank goodness! That seems like the worst possible place to be stuck while it's on fire. (The strangest in his record was a swamp... Yes, an entire swamp caught on fire, it's a long story.)

If you look at those mine shafts, there is enough air for people to breath for a few hours before the oxygen level drops. If in event of fire, all fans are designed to stop immediately, the fire area would be starved of additional oxygen slowing it down and the remainder of the mine would be fairly smoke free. This would make finding an escape route easier and far less lives would be lost. With less areas full of smoke, rescue would also be easier. If airbags inflated by nitrogen cylinders were placed where shafts met, it would be fairly easy to contain smoke within a fairly small area. They would have to be designed in a layout to always maintain an alternative escape route. Without increasing smoke, their would not be a serious time problem and once the affected area was isolated, supply fans could be restarted.

@@wilsjane Thanks for the information. I guess my unease is partly just irrational fear, partly the knowledge that both the technological and the human elements can fail (as regular viewers of of Plainly Difficult surely know).

@mattilindstrom you wanna really justify this healthy fear, watch the documentary "Westray" from the Canadian National Film Board - it's on KZfaq

Actually, he pronounced it correctly. While the tribe keeps the original pronunciation, the county is pronounced as if the “e” were silent.

@@douglaschamberlain9773 Wait, for reals? Now I gotta look this up... Well, shit. It _is_ "shuh-SHONE." I guess that's the risk one takes being an insufferable pedant on the internet. Bound to be wrong sooner or later. I'm up in Oregon and that's the pronunciation I've always heard used so I _probably_ should have checked the actual county and not just the name of the tribe. I appreciate the heads-up. It'll help me be a little _less_ wrong sometimes.

@@meatharborNo worries! Having grown up there, we got used to it. As an Oregonian you get it. You can tell outsiders when they pronounce your state “or-e-gone” instead of “-gun”. 😂

@@douglaschamberlain9773 And Tualatin, and Willamette, and Aloha…lol.

It's understandable. I live in Illinois where we have the following weird pronunciations: Athens (AY-thenz); Cairo (CARE-Roe); Berlin (BER-lin); and Versailles-you guessed it; it’s Ver-SALES. 🤷‍♀️

Very scary!!

You just rekindled an old nightmare, long banked after a childhood tour of part of the Sudbury nickel mines. There's something about being 11 and very aware of how much rock is above your head, being supported by... what exactly?... that can leave a kid waking up in cold sweats for a long while.

Are you planning on spending a lot of time in a mine?

Fire in general, no matter where it is is a nightmare honestly.... and after being stuck in a block of flats, when part of it was on fire and there's no escape - you can understand why situations such as this and Grenfell gives me absolute nightmares. (No I wasn't anywhere near grenfelll, the fire I'm referencing happened in the early 80s, and to a toddler it was a nightmare... objectively though, we were safe enough... concrete walls and floors mean't it wasn't going to spread far, and the smoke was mitigated by the balconies. )

I think of circumcision

I think "anti-libido" nonsense.

I think of eugenics

I think of corn flakes. I've never seen the name be associated with anything but cereal.

@@vinny-is-here There's a movie called The Road To Wellville.

I second this! I travelled through the area not long after, and the whole community was in shock and mourning.

Does Draeger still have a US presence? I know they closed down their operations here in Pittsburgh years ago. As an aside, up until my recent retirement, I worked for a competitor, at least on the gas monitoring side.

@@jimmissenda6590 ah, I work for a distributor in Canada, but I believe they've got a Canadian office, or at least a Canadian hub, most of our stuff comes from there. We also deal MSA and Honeywell BW and the occasional Industrial Scientific but I don't have any idea about the internals on them, I can tear down and rebuild almost everything else though haha

I was on a mine rescue team in the North West Territories Yellowknife and I was looking at that gear and remembering. So hard to get up ladder ways pushing air through those scrubbers.

@@jimmissenda6590 Not sure about the US but they've got a Canadian presence, at least a distribution hub, that's where most of our shipments come from. We also do MSA and Honeywell BW haha

@@maxhill7065 I worked for Industrial Scientific for 34 years, so I'm familiar with both MSA and Honeywell BW.

Boom!!

@@PlainlyDifficult it was a good one! how sad though, I can't imagine what those families must have went through. so many lives changed forever. but I appreciate your work, and am excited for you to reach a mil subs, get that nice gold plaque to proudly display lol. have a great weekend John!

Thanks so much

Not only that, it's now legal to attack federal buildings, provided you don't damage any precious documents. J6 part 2 is going to be *INSANE* when Trump loses bigly again. Maybe then the "justice" system will take it seriously? Ha, JK.

Definitely. The most recent accident happened this past March, when a landslide in the Amur region of Russia trapped 13 gold miners 120m underground. Unfortunately, they had to call the search off after 2 weeks when conditions got too dangerous. RIP.

Morning!

Pronounced like Diane Abbott Suffocated to deaf what a moby😭 🐵

I don’t fink he did

@@VladimirLuton he did. I live near the area and that is how it is called.

I work underground and still have a serious aversion to sprayable foam as a result.

Thank you!!

Thank you!!

Mining salt is relatively safe, unless water starts getting into the mine.

​​@@BenKonoskyTwo words: Lake Peigneur. The odd thing is, though, that a salt formation is normally a supremely impermeable barrier to water. (Also to oil and gas, which is why petroleum geologists pitch tents whenever and wherever they find one, and also why that oil rig at Lake Peigneur was drilling through the salt in the first place.) Under normal circumstances, ground water cannot penetrate salt, and so salt mines tend to be some of the driest places on Earth. But if water ever *does* penetrate a salt formation -- say, through a fault line -- and begin to flow through it ... yeah, things happen very, very fast.

I haven’t seen one of those Bic pens in years!!! They came on the market in the 1970’s, I think. I had one once upon a time - it was required by one of my high school English teachers, “so we only had to remember to bring one writing instrument to class.” Which I thought was a huge insult to my intelligence, along with the intelligence of my classmates. Every day in class she would tell us to “pull out your spiral bound college rule theme book and your Bic four-color ink pen.” Every time she wanted us to write something in our notes, she would literally go through the whole statement: “In your spiral bound college rule theme book, write the following words with the green ink in your Bic four-color ink pen”, and then she would proceed with giving us the words. It was hideous! She spent almost one-third of our 50 minute class period reciting those precise descriptive words for “notebook and pen”, which, apparently, was against her personal constitution to step down off her pedestal and speak like us commoners. I hated that pen so much! On the last day of school I laid my “spiral bound college rule theme book and my Bic four-color ink pen” on her desk, smiled at her and walked away. After I got my report card securely in my mother’s hands, I sent that teacher a note and I thanked her for insulting every student she had by starting the year off telling us that we were irresponsible ingrates … then I told her she could stick my “Bic four-color ink pen” where the sun doesn’t shine because I sure as heck had no further use for the darn thing. And then I spent all summer praying that I would never have her as a teacher again!

@@ImOnAJourney That teacher of yours is a monster! Such a control freak!

@@isen2619 Yeah, she was different. I’m not sure it was a control thing, though. I think it was as simple as she wanted all students to go through high school being prim, proper and professional in our use of the English language so we would carry the properness of what we learned throughout our lives, and she was just very passionate about that. Sadly, teachers now could care less what or how students learn as long as they get passed on and out of their classroom at the end of the school year. Honestly, looking back, she was a good teacher - just a bit quirky and old fashioned in her ways, even for the 1970’s. I kind of wish now that I had paid more attention to her and that I had tried harder.

The tide started turning in the 50s, and really took off in the 70s.

Balls indeed my friend

Dish washing can't be compared to the physical labor intensive work of mining

​@@moxiemaxie3543 You seem to have missed the point of the comment.

I’d rather scrub toilets over being a miner! And Moximaxie - I get what you’re saying, but I’m thinking of an ugly occupation. And so is kutter. I am well aware miners work incredibly hard. I’m not against hard work at all, but I sure as heck don’t want to do it 6,000 feet below ground level.

@@moxiemaxie3543 So for intensive physical labour I'd go back to working in a steel foundry before working in a mine. At least in the foundry we weren't trapped hundreds of M underground while doing hot, dirty, heavy work!

At least nowadays, I think miners actually make pretty good money. One would hope so, anyway, given how much skill and danger the work involves.

As a former port safety inspector in that area, I was definitely aware of that one 😂 But yeah, not talked about much.

@JoshuaTootell Navy said an incendiary weapon accidentally discharged and they couldn't put out the fire. The details are horrifying.

Bunch of cereal killers.

@@thing_under_the_stairs 🤣🤣🤣

That is true

Better than Oregon

Pretty scary eh!!

They also have a memorial statue in the state capitol here in Boise with a very moving poem written by former governor Phil Batt.

Thank you!!

thank you!!

Sunshine of death!

like some Bethesda visual storytelling

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​@@PlainlyDifficultWouldn't that be more like a prompt criticality iincident?

​@tombryant5029 whoa. Good one 👍 😂❤

An even better solution was found: the “stench warning system”. A foul-smelling chemical was released into the air supplies, both for ventilation and to drive the pneumatic tools. When you smelled it, you got out.

Thank you

Thank you for the suggestion!!

Check out the lucky Friday mine, it’s in the same area and is insanely deep

Yes indeed, and it wasn't even the deepest. Lucky Friday, to Sunshine's east, goes down to something like 6,200 feet. Think about that--a mine shaft that goes down more than a mile! A local miner once gave me a core sample they took out from down there that I still have.

Lucky Friday should still be good for another couple of decades last I checked. Do you know if Galena is still operating too?

@@rrice1705 Galena is operating and Bunker Hill is in the process of firing back up.

Thank you!! It’s been a long time

Same here! Nice to see you!

My pleasure!

Why is that? Is it more easily accessible then gold or something?

@@cowherdsman Comparitive rarity in the crust (to other "working" metals like aluminum, copper, or zinc) and the appications for silver using more bulk material than similar applications for other rare materials (e.g. we use a lot more silver per year than gold for PCB manufacturing, and we use a lot of silver nitrate for sterile coatings of medical devices)