Could Babe Ruth Hit Today's Pitching? Don't Be Silly.

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Jaime Cevallos

Jaime Cevallos

4 ай бұрын

In this video, I talk about whether Babe Ruth could hit the pitching of today.
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@TomF95
@TomF95 4 ай бұрын
His batting average might be a little lower and he might strikeout more, but he’d still be a 40+ hr per year guy and a hall of famer. Good mechanics are good mechanics
@patrickgoodman4576
@patrickgoodman4576 4 ай бұрын
You’re on point with everything you’re saying man more ppl need to hear this!
@sinceremaverick7081
@sinceremaverick7081 3 ай бұрын
All the players of yesterday need is, an off-season, a training camp, & todays pitching machines & they’d adjust fine. ⚾️
@theswingmechanic
@theswingmechanic Күн бұрын
@@sinceremaverick7081 or maybe they were better because they didn’t have the pitching machines.
@MooreGravy
@MooreGravy 4 ай бұрын
I don't think pitchers throw harder today than 100 years ago. Maybe a couple MPH average (with technology and training) but not 10-15 like people think/claim. I am confident that hitters see MORE fast pitches today than 100 years ago though. With the way bullpens are used. 100 years ago the 1924 Yankees played 153 games. Their pitching staff threw 76 complete games! Hitters seeing the same pitcher 4 times was common and made it easier on the hitter. Now a hitter rarely gets to face a pitcher 4 times in a game.
@carltonreese4854
@carltonreese4854 18 күн бұрын
Gould's comment is interesting, but much more complex than is shown here. It is discussed in the book, "Setting the Records Straight: How Rod Carew Hit .400... But Not Ted Williams." The book has discovered a way to adjust statistics to fit any era so we can compare their numbers better and many factors that differed from era to era are discussed. The analysis here is great, spot on. A great player in any era is a great player in any era. Players today have tremendous advantages that players of Ruth's era could only dream: hard and shiny baseballs that were easy to see, protective gear from head to toe, lighting that was never in question even during days of filtered light, fields where the outfield wall does not stretch to 500 feet in places -- the list goes on and on. Ruth was the greatest power hitter of all time and no one is close. The man completely changed the game, single-handedly -- there is no other player you can say that about.
@dennisnardone5009
@dennisnardone5009 3 ай бұрын
Ruth faced Sacheel Paige. I listened to this story by Buck Leonard. He was there. Paige smoked the ball. Ruth hit a home run off him. Buck said Paige greeted him at home plate and congratulated him.
@theswingmechanic
@theswingmechanic 3 ай бұрын
Never heard that. Awesome.
@thomaslemon3971
@thomaslemon3971 Ай бұрын
Yep I heard that one too. And Paige is proof that they didn’t really “pitch slower” back then. He was a flamethrower! I also saw in a different comment thread a great point: if a modern day Junior in high school can throw 90mph, why couldn’t a grown man who was a best-of-the-best athlete throw 90mph (or more)?
@dsmvr4
@dsmvr4 3 ай бұрын
Truer words have never been spoken 👍
@mtp4430
@mtp4430 3 ай бұрын
@dsmvr4 👍
@jackschultz23
@jackschultz23 4 ай бұрын
Check out the 2023 Yordan Alvarez highlight video that starts with "Blast Off", specifically at the 5:17 mark (kzfaq.info/get/bejne/btloaLN_qbnPl40.html), where they show a face on view of his HR against the A's. That lower body move is exactly like the Ruth face on swing of his 60th HR. No weight on the back leg, and that back leg goes behind his body for counterbalance, and then two femur bones hit each other and you'll see a bounce. This is the same move that's taught in all backhand disc golf throws, which is clearly a front arm dominant rotation movement. Alverez has different swing plane in that clip I mentioned because of timing, where his rotation is ahead of the ball, but in other face on clips he doesn't have his hands out in front.
@thomaslemon3971
@thomaslemon3971 Ай бұрын
I know I’m a little late to the party here, but this video was straight up awesome 💪 I’ll always defend The Babe! The dude instinctively invented “launch angle” hitting before it was ever so much as a term. Today, even if he wouldn’t be leaps and bounds above the rest (hitting more homers than entire TEAMS), he would still likely be the best in MLB compared to his peers. Not unlike 2001-04 Bonds. A very feared hitter who had superior power and contact. He had a great batting eye and was also drawing lots of walks when nobody else was really doing that. So he wouldn’t be a “35 homers with 200 strikeouts” guy like they often are today
@theswingmechanic
@theswingmechanic Ай бұрын
Thank you!!! 100%. People just discount him because of the time separation, and the stupid assumption that today's players are so much better. Not true. Strength and size are a big part of baseball but not the only factor. And Ruth wasn't exactly small anyways.
@rasruler1
@rasruler1 4 ай бұрын
Hitters hit!
@theswingmechanic
@theswingmechanic 4 ай бұрын
Bottome line.
@tman586
@tman586 4 ай бұрын
Hey Jaime, I’m pretty new to your style of teaching the swing, and I’m curious as to how some people who have implemented it are doing in game? I could definitely see how this would produce more power, but the thing that kind of worries me is that if it wasn’t implemented right, it seems like it would be really easy to come around the ball and topspin stuff.
@theswingmechanic
@theswingmechanic 4 ай бұрын
Coming around the ball is a myth.
@tman586
@tman586 4 ай бұрын
@@theswingmechanic really? How so?
@awakentotruthmichaelsmith4698
@awakentotruthmichaelsmith4698 3 ай бұрын
@@tman586well, just watch a guy demonstrate “coming around the ball” and then ask yourself, can this move practically ever happen? The answer is clearly no. Guys can certainly “roll over pitches” but that’s more a function of timing, and not getting around the ball
@hyzercreek
@hyzercreek 2 ай бұрын
It's a completely different game today. It used to be football but now it's baseball.
@nxt1up
@nxt1up 4 ай бұрын
I’ve instituted his philosophy with 3 of my hitters I train. Yes, it’s going to take a lot of instruction to get them from the old way.
@theswingmechanic
@theswingmechanic 4 ай бұрын
Lead-Arm Progression all day.
@nxt1up
@nxt1up 4 ай бұрын
My players who are using had a good week during games. However, balance and being synced up very important. We use a lot weighed methods water bags etc. However, I am all in at my facility.
@Ian-td9dd
@Ian-td9dd 4 ай бұрын
I saw bellinger’s hitting coach see your stuff. You’re getting what you want, your recognition. But you’ll never be fairly compensated.
@theswingmechanic
@theswingmechanic 4 ай бұрын
What do you mean?
@rubbersoul8515
@rubbersoul8515 24 күн бұрын
I loved the bit about the parallels between the Babe's and Jr's swing mechanics. I think if you asked just about anyone theyd tell you Jr had a beautiful swing and Babe had an ugly swing, and yet they both produced beautiful results. Babe probably did face some 100 and high 90s in his career. We know he faced Satch. If we transported him to today he would hit. But he'd probably be surprised how many guys fastball sits in that range though. Pitchers in his day were throwing 200 to 300 innings every year. Last year only 5 pitchers threw 200 yet UCLs were popping at record pace. With that being said I have to completely disagree about the larger player pool not being a significant factor in raising the level of the league. The argument isnt necessarily that player pool increases the level of the top end talent(it does but more subtly than its other effects), but that it shrinks the gap between the top end and bottom end of the league raising the average level. Simply put when you have more players those with a better mind for the game, better eye, reaction time, greater natural athletic talents, yadda yadda will feed into the system and crowd out lesser talents as long as they're all fighting for the same number of roster slots. Sorry for the novel but your vid gave me a lot to think about!
@theswingmechanic
@theswingmechanic 20 күн бұрын
@@rubbersoul8515 the one thing that’s not talked about is how kids relate to the game and how that affects certain skill levels. I think that the sandlots were basically better breed ground for good mechanics. I don’t want to get sidetracked into arguing about whether players were overall better or worse. I think the mechanics they used were high level and that we’re getting sidetracked in today’s instruction.
@carltonreese4854
@carltonreese4854 18 күн бұрын
Yes! I think you hit on part of what Gould was actually talking about that wasn't shown in the clip. The larger player pool, according to Gould, raised the talent level mainly at the median but not at the elite level -- that was Gould's main point. The most talented in anything have very little room for improvement, but the "average" person certainly does improve greatly. In other words, greatness in the 1920s is greatness in the 1970s is greatness in the 2020s.
@keithpomella9953
@keithpomella9953 8 күн бұрын
The fact still remains the baseball in the Ruth’s time was the national past time every boy in America was playing on a sandlot as my father did every day of his life Ruth grew up swinging a bat seven days a week in the industrial school for boys. They had no other way of entertaining themselves. So I do not see how the talent pool is larger children today are playing soccer basketball baseball all at the same time one of those sports has to suffer.
@theswingmechanic
@theswingmechanic 3 күн бұрын
They're also extremely distracted by screens nowadays.
@mtp4430
@mtp4430 3 ай бұрын
Great players are great players. Ruth would make any adjustments necessary to play the game in this generation. Why oh why do people under appreciate everything from the past as being inferior? It’s called stupidity.
@dougp7934
@dougp7934 2 күн бұрын
Can’t we use the same equipment used in the 70s today, to measure pitching speed?
@theswingmechanic
@theswingmechanic Күн бұрын
great point!
@dougp7934
@dougp7934 Күн бұрын
@@theswingmechanic If I understand it correctly, the radar was pointed more at the plate in the 1970s, when the guns were first used. Is that the major difference?
@theswingmechanic
@theswingmechanic Күн бұрын
@@dougp7934 I believe so. Improvements in tech have allowed them to measure out of the hand. Supposedly about a 6 - 7 mph difference or so?
@robertbrown7470
@robertbrown7470 Ай бұрын
Could the greatest hitter of all time hit today's pitching? Huh...
@joeishmael9217
@joeishmael9217 4 ай бұрын
Not a chance he would be successful today. First off Ruth never played against black players, which means he never played against the absolute best of the best in his era. Second, every single sport has made enormous gains in the way the game is played. Steph curry and lebron would seem like aliens to nba players of the 60’s let alone the 1920’s. I honestly can’t believe anyone would try to make this argument it’s so absurd.
@MooreGravy
@MooreGravy 4 ай бұрын
IMO it's absurd anyone would say there's "not a chance he'd be successful today". Ruth WAS like an alien back then actually. Not because he swung a 40 ounce bat (that's what they used) but because he approached the plate with a completely different mindset and swing. Different than how the game was viewed to be played back then. Probably because center field was like 450+ feet and the foul poles were 35 feet farther back than the ones today. But since you say "every single sport has made enormous gains"...I'll go out on a limb and say there's no chance Jim Brown would be successful today. Would that be a fair assessment or is that absurd?
@joeishmael9217
@joeishmael9217 4 ай бұрын
@@MooreGravy Jim brown would probably make the NFL today but no shot at putting up the same yards as he did in his time. I’m not insulting brown or Ruth they’re all time greats, but to think they would be the same level in today’s game is just insanity to me. In regards to Ruth’s hitting, he struck out a ton in his time, just imagine today with scouting/video, he’d probably go a month without seeing a fastball. I love the old timers and they deserve their respect but I’ll never believe he’s the same player in today’s game.
@patrickgoodman4576
@patrickgoodman4576 4 ай бұрын
@@joeishmael9217 that’s fine if you don’t believe but all power hitters swings can be traced back to Ruth/jackson
@joeishmael9217
@joeishmael9217 4 ай бұрын
@@patrickgoodman4576 sure, I agree but that’s not my point. I’m saying the best hitter from 100 years ago isn’t putting up the same numbers today. Athletes across the board are bigger,faster, stronger and more skilled than ever before.
@patrickgoodman4576
@patrickgoodman4576 4 ай бұрын
@@joeishmael9217maybe but they wouldn’t be trash or not be able to compete. That’s so asinine to think that way. Just because the talent pool is so large doesn’t mean the best of the best wouldn’t be able to compete because they would. Just think about this for a minute: Ruth’s batspeed was measured in 1920s as to be 75 mph using a 40 oz bat. Almost 100 years later Pujols batspeed was measured as 85 mph using a 33 oz bat. So what does that tell you? No wonder WHY he regularly hit balls 450 ft away F= MXA
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