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Could China fail? Will China Collapse?

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Pascal Coppens

Pascal Coppens

Күн бұрын

Could China fail?
#chinasnewnormal
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00:00 Could China Fail? This claim has been made for past 30 years, so why has China’s bubble never popped?
01:55 There are 3 main themes about China’s collapse: 1. Systemic risk 2. Societal risk and 3. Matters of survival
04:07 SYSTEMIC RISK There are four main themes: 1. Communist party of China 2. Debt of China 3. Growth Decline 4. Bubbles.
04:17 Communist party of China. Is China rigid or the country that has been reforming and changing more than any other country. Is the CPC decentralized or centralized
06:49 Debt of China. Debt of China is high, but much based on domestic saving, which is better manageable. The biggest risk is local government debt where sale of land is decline.
09:45 Growth decline. China will slowdown in GDP growth, but as China is the second largest economy and that means that China will continue to add more to its economy than any other country in the world. Consumption will solve the growth decline over time as Chinese start spending more instead of saving.
12:45 Real-Estate bubbles. China will not head into a financial crisis because of the bubbles because China has more instruments to manage their bubbles.
16:11SOCIETAL RISKS There are four main themes: 1. Environment 2. Demography 3. Productivity 4. Middle-Income Trap
17:13 Environment China is the biggest polluter in the world, but also the biggest investor in renewable energy capacity in products and connectivity on the grid. This is a bigger opportunity than it is a problem
19:30 Demography China’s population is shrinking and as factory of the world, this is a huge challenge for the future of China. The opportunity lies in the triggering of social reforms, innovation and raising the productivity to deal with the demography issue.
22:02 Productivity The productivity in China is much lower than the Western world. But this is a huge opportunity as China wants to educate their citizens to increase the value each worker and add more robots and automation, which they are doing faster than the Western countries.
24:41 Middle-Income Trap China could be stuck in middle Income trap, which is been claimed for decades. In 2023, China will reach the high-country status. This issue is less of an issue as millions of people are joining the middle class every year now
28:00 SURVIVAL RISKS There are four main themes: 1. Unemployment 2. Taiwan 3. Resources 4. Tech War
29:12 UNEMPLOYMENT This is in my view the biggest risk for China to continue China’s growth. Unless they contribute to the value of society this could derail China. Only by opening China’s markets further, this will not be simple to resolve.
32:13 The red line: Taiwan A war in Taiwan is unlikely, but an incident could happen. Especially in 2024 with the election in Taiwan and in US, the Taiwanese independence will become a campaign topic. That is dangerous as it could spark the tensions even more.
34:46 Resources: Water, Food and Energy China needs to become more self-sufficient on these 3 resources. China however needs to work with the world to resolve these matters, and therefore their cooperation with the global South on trade of resources in exchange for products and innovation from China.
37:12 Tech Wars. Biden’s Chip & Science act has created a direct tech war. This has created a change from China becoming the leader in innovation. More about this can be found on my monthly newsletter. Do subscribe on my website for it www.pascalcoppens.com
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@Imperialist_India
@Imperialist_India Жыл бұрын
Not a fan of Gordon Chang but people like him are playing the west for fools telling them what they want to hear for $$$
@KK-ij4mz
@KK-ij4mz Жыл бұрын
Gordon actually was sent out to the west by CCP lont time ago to help to fool the west.
@udhayakumarMN
@udhayakumarMN Жыл бұрын
Lucrative business indeed.
@winstonspoodle
@winstonspoodle Жыл бұрын
@@KK-ij4mz you get 50 cents wumao.
@Phidiasan
@Phidiasan Жыл бұрын
@@KK-ij4mz Actually that might be true.......
@Imperialist_India
@Imperialist_India Жыл бұрын
@@Phidiasan He's playing Gordon Chang and people are already falling for it. LOL
@dryeoh2023
@dryeoh2023 Жыл бұрын
Pascal, Gordan Chang is correct. China had collapse - poverty had collapse and 800 million people had left poverty; automobiles is collapsing as the EV had destroyed the car industry; GDP had collapse from 14% growth when GDP was 1 trillion to current 5% growth of the current GDP of 18 trillion. The BRI had collapse and 140 countries are in it. USA is growing extremely well from the previous debt of 12 trillion to the current debt of 31.4 trillion - great growth. Homeless had grown extremely well in LA, Washington DC and California at a great pace. Germany's economy is great and Britain growth is great in the negative territory. USA and Western countries should be happy because China had collapse 20 years ago.
@thucduyen9592
@thucduyen9592 Жыл бұрын
LOL but true.
@lionvictor9944
@lionvictor9944 Жыл бұрын
Nice.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
Funny!
@RichardBrett899
@RichardBrett899 Жыл бұрын
These are unbelievably comments made by genius!👍👍👍👍
@lorenciandrej
@lorenciandrej Жыл бұрын
Almost nothing to add.
@charlesyang4923
@charlesyang4923 Жыл бұрын
One famous adage “you can change system but you can NOT change party in China, whilst you can change party but can NOT change system in US”. This best explain how dynamic CPC is to meet Chinese insatiable demands in all directions and the secret is never hidden by CPC which is “never stop and never satisfy yourself in self-reform”. This can be further justified by the fact that CPC has approval rating over 90% amongst Chinese and still increasing by the years.
@user-vc5qk9tg7u
@user-vc5qk9tg7u Жыл бұрын
totally, forget ideology, look at the results, who cares if the ruler is a dictat0r.
@gohsiewhau4819
@gohsiewhau4819 Жыл бұрын
Chinese leaders are capable n qualified fully in their lead positions. The collective west led by the americanos politicians are not capable/qualified personnels !! Look at them one by one, war mongerings, selfish n greedily filling own wallets instead of taking care of own populations...
@steveperreira5850
@steveperreira5850 Жыл бұрын
You are free to believe whatever you want to believe, however delusional
@steveperreira5850
@steveperreira5850 Жыл бұрын
@@user-vc5qk9tg7u : delusional… i’m probably smarter than you so why don’t you let me be your dictator?
@charlesyang4923
@charlesyang4923 Жыл бұрын
@@steveperreira5850Just consider one fact. There is bi-partisan Beltway establishment bought-off by MICC evidenced by non-stop defense budget increase whilst health/home care spend is continuously cut by years and this trending is not going to change unless American start waking up and do something about it.
@joem0088
@joem0088 Жыл бұрын
99.999% of the people don't get China because a country of over 1B people almost 30 provinces, in a diplomatic environment of almost 200 countries is just a very very complex thing which nobody has any experience running. People who have visited China a couple of time talk expertly about it as if they know all the answers. The country is big, the challenges are also big in a way that ordinary people whose life experience is running a business of 1, 10 M or even over billion cannot comprehend. Do you think Tim Cook or Elon Musk can run China successfully ? But the fact is that China has been an enormous country with enormous challenges for many centuries and only the Chinese govt in Beijing and all the provinces know really what these problems are. And they are the only people who has any experience governing that. They are not going to appoint Jeffery Sacks and Larry Summers to tell them how to do it. Russia took their advise of shock therapy and see what happened to Russia in the 1990's. China always did it their way to marketise plus everrything else, and against all odds, against all foreign predictions of collapse, they came through so far. They must know something you and I don't.
@siphomabena9139
@siphomabena9139 Жыл бұрын
yet they still want taiwan
@loktom4068
@loktom4068 Жыл бұрын
It's family reunion. Bad news for you?
@slee4039
@slee4039 Жыл бұрын
compare it with India the country with the biggest population and a democracy , can we even fathom the chasm between these 2 countries?
@slee4039
@slee4039 Жыл бұрын
@@siphomabena9139 Please help yourself and read up on some history on China and Taiwan.
@slee4039
@slee4039 Жыл бұрын
no worries even if the Chinese economy comes to a standstill, it will still survive since the Chinese are a very resilient and pragmatic people. in the coming years it’s not bubbles that are popping but the eyeballs of its detractor popping after seeing that the Chinese simply refuses to fail and survive unless 3rd WW breakout in which the world will fall together with it.
@JohnnysCafe_
@JohnnysCafe_ Жыл бұрын
China has the smartest government that is thinking ahead, they are all about infrastructure and supply, it's the US that is in such massive debt that it can never be paid, the US is already bankrupt and by raising the debt ceiling they are putting the collapse off a few more years when it will be worse, then whilst it's beyond broke it's spending more on military spending when no one is threatening them, the only way out of the inevitable collapse is to start WW3 and we know they are always at war and will do it. The US military is the biggest threat to the world.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
Does not bode well for Taiwan if US cannot solve its debt issue
@user-vc5qk9tg7u
@user-vc5qk9tg7u Жыл бұрын
i would argue that it not because CHina has the smartest g0vt, they have human beings in g0vt, humans with a soul. U$ politicians are totally soulless, a c0rporate for profit only terr0r state that will eventually suck the lives out of everyone for the profit of 0.0001% of Amarika's feudal l0rds.
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
China is in more debt to GDP than America. US military doesn't threaten western nations. It does threaten China and its plans to take Taiwan.
@JohnnysCafe_
@JohnnysCafe_ Жыл бұрын
@@Andy-P where did you get that absolute nonsense? That's the most misinformed statement I've heard yet, I'm saving it to show others what western propaganda is doing to people.
@JohnnysCafe_
@JohnnysCafe_ Жыл бұрын
@@Andy-P PS you didn't even know that Taiwan is part of China and always has been. Andy I don't mean this in a bad way but you should read news sources other than western media to get some idea of the real geopolitical situation in the world, western media is pure propaganda today, if any journalist speaks out about the truth they get arrested like Assange for example. Can I ask you if you believe Ukraine is winning against Russia ? I'm just curious
@PSX247
@PSX247 Жыл бұрын
The west has been pushing this collapse for decades.
@sayaandyangsaya2756
@sayaandyangsaya2756 Жыл бұрын
With ton of money.
@NiceBot724
@NiceBot724 Жыл бұрын
with that username, nobody should take you seriously
@kingston163
@kingston163 Жыл бұрын
@@sayaandyangsaya2756 Some!
@deebil8099
@deebil8099 Жыл бұрын
The west has built China to what it is today. Why would they push for it's collapse while investing so much money in it? Don't be stupid. If the U.S. wanted to destroy China or collapse it's economy 10 years ago, they could have done it overnight and it wouldn't have any effect on them. The west was hoping China would liberalize and become a civilized country. Instead Xi turned it into North Korea...
@mipiace2504
@mipiace2504 Жыл бұрын
Except that is not true, look at the evidence. The West has acted in good faith, while China’s loyalty is not serious
@sarahkhan2310
@sarahkhan2310 Жыл бұрын
China is a catalyst for global trade economic cooperation friendship. China is a blessing to the world. Well done 👍❤️🇨🇳
@realdeal139
@realdeal139 Жыл бұрын
China seems like a country that operates using common sense and practical approaches
@edwardkon939
@edwardkon939 Жыл бұрын
Pascal, the naysayers have , for ages, been predicting that China is going to fail like a broken record spinning on a turntable. But you know what - none of them has proven to be right.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
indeed
@brent1252
@brent1252 Жыл бұрын
Hilarious nobody been saying there bout to collapse till now obviously the crinese crybabies imperialist wannabees are collapsing thanks to there foolish 1 child policy there population will halve in 30 years thankfully India will leave them well behind most factories left for Vietnam and others unemployment thru the roof millions escaping to Vietnam over the border who is this loser think he is kidding
@Time4Peace
@Time4Peace Жыл бұрын
​@@brent1252 Big population is a double edged sword. You are rejoicing because you believe that India will be leaving China behind with its increasing population. Population is only one factor.
@pahatpahat9566
@pahatpahat9566 Жыл бұрын
Did you really listen to the whole broadcast?
@brent1252
@brent1252 Жыл бұрын
@@Time4Peace no just relieved that the genocidal crinese crybabies imperialist wannabees will soon slip back to no 3 there is nothing to worry about a weak crina
@nmew6926
@nmew6926 Жыл бұрын
1989 Western Propaganda: Without democracy in China, No Development 2000s Western Propaganda: Without democracy, *NO SUSTAINABLE development* 2010s Western Propaganda: No country can experience indefinite economic growth, democracy is necessary to act as a safety valve when the economy slows... *BLAH.. BLAH... BLAH*
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
"No country can experience indefinite economic growth". If you mean high growth then that has proved correct. China is having to accept lower growth. When the debt fueled growth stops it's growth will be like Japans.
@loktom4068
@loktom4068 Жыл бұрын
In US and the 5 EYES nations there's absolutely no growth except growth of the dictator government departments keep on growing in size that contribute nothing good back to it's people other than robbing its own people for all its worth.
@user-cy3ce1gy7o
@user-cy3ce1gy7o Ай бұрын
2020s- Overcapacity. Lol
@JL88
@JL88 Жыл бұрын
Fair and thoughtful analysis from someone with actual China experience through living in China and looking at things without a tainted lens. Thank you for your contribution towards people’s better understanding.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
My pleasure. Thanks!
@staceycolangelo8940
@staceycolangelo8940 Жыл бұрын
Not exactly…. Other analysts say otherwise. Ultimately, I hope China pulls through, but they wont if they underestimate the American terrorists. These scumbags are hell-bent and preventing china from succeeding.
@marcelbork92
@marcelbork92 Жыл бұрын
@@PascalCoppens It is really funny to the extent of being ridiculous that you do not even mention the ethnic and racial coherence of the Chinese, which is in fact the most important factor for the "stability" of any system. We see the whole "west" collapsing every day because of the utter negligence and even pathological denial of this factor. Have you been warned by someone to mention racial and ethnic coherence or do you yourself think it is irrelevant?
@yayadan3000
@yayadan3000 Жыл бұрын
​@@marcelbork92 Perhaps our identification with Chinese identity is greater than our racial identity. Chinese children have always sung '56 ethnic groups are one family' since childhood. The education we received from a young age is unity. Eg. for the oppression and enslavement of the Han ethnic group by the Man during the Qing Dynasty, both textbooks and the people don't mentioned much. Nowadays, various ethnic groups live together, and children have been studying and growing up together since childhood. Appreciate the customs and cuisine of each ethnic. Because racial issues are very serious in the West, some Western friends will believe that there is forced labor for Xinjiang ethnic minorities in China, which is very absurd. Normal people wouldn't believe such things, but Adidas and Nike did, and they both declared a boycott of Xinjiang cotton. This brainless statement has also brought retribution, with sales in China falling by more than half. They have not yet apologized for this matter, but it can be seen that they will gradually become niche products in China.
@indiasuperclean6969
@indiasuperclean6969 Жыл бұрын
SIR MY INDIA IS THE REAL SUPERPOWER 🤗🇮🇳 WE HAVE THE BEST INFRASTRUCTURE AND HIGHSPEED RAIL 🤗🇮🇳 MEANWHILE IN CHINA PEOPLE STILL RIDE RICKSHAW EVERYWHERE AND THEY ALSO POOR DONT HAVE CAR . THIS WHY IM SO LUCKY LIVE IN SUPER INDIA THE CLEANEST COUNTRY IN THE WORLD 🇮🇳🤗 , WE NEVER SCAM! WE GIVE RESPECT TO ALL WOMEN THEY CAN WALK SAFELY ALONE AT NIGHT AND WE HAVE CLEAN FOOD AND TOILET EVERYWHERE 🇮🇳🤗🚽, I KNOW MANY POOR PEOPLE JEALOUS WITH SUPER RICH INDIA 🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳🤗🇮🇳
@huang5723
@huang5723 Жыл бұрын
Hello Pascal, thanks for another education; I concurred with you. China is one of many East Asia Pacific countries I used to travel during my work then. My first visit to China was in the late '70s, walking across the half concrete bridge (Hong Kong side) and half wooden bridge (China side) to have a first hand feel of China and met the Chinese there for the first time, then I was a curious tourist visiting Shen Zhen the so call "sleepy" fishing village. The people there then were not "sleeping" at all, they were very curious as I was, they give you the sense of value of life, they were enterprising, they were keen learner, they were hungry for information, least of all they don't waste any opportunity to do good. China had been one of the many countries I responsible then, I have to tell them to slow down to keep in pace with rest of the East Asian countries under my purview. It is without an iota of doubt that the Chinese owned to themselves for the success they had brought to their nation, their family and themselves. Most business deal with China have benefitted the same effects. It is in the Chinese DNA to work hard, (now to work smart as well), to be responsible and bold to set goals and achieving them. These are what I had learned from them during my 35 years working with the Chinese and literally watching them grow. They have a life to live like everyone, from the riches to the world poorest countries, there are riches to be found. It is the unselfish collective work and abundance mentality that make ONE RICH and able to LIVE HAPPILY.
@AM-bv8vi
@AM-bv8vi Жыл бұрын
All of that development was due to INVESTMENT by the west.
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
Just like Taiwan & Singapore. And other western countries where Chinese have contributed to growth and economic development. Countries they now call home.
@kirstinstrand6292
@kirstinstrand6292 Жыл бұрын
As a US citizen who has never visited China, it is impossible to have a realistic understanding of Chinese cultures! Thank you so much for sharing your reflections 😔 As stated, the US is all about maintaining Hegemonic Power. Thus, their propaganda machines are in full force 24/7. MSM is followed religiously by the vast dumbed-down majority. I see no significant changes on the horizon. Truthfully, it's alarming to me.😢
@seniorsergeanttomcroydon6401
@seniorsergeanttomcroydon6401 Жыл бұрын
​@@Andy-P China make the best quality precursor drugs in the world for export to Myanmar and Mexico. Drug manufacture and consumption is illegal in China. For such an advanced surveillance state you think they could stop the manufacture and exportation. But they seem to struggle with this. $800 million shipment of cocaine was stopped in Australia from China recently. China talks big on sophisticated things but struggles with simple things.
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
@@seniorsergeanttomcroydon6401 I've read that even though China has the reputation of all seeing all knowing when it comes to loans everything is so opaque that one Chinese institution may no know another Chinese institution has loans outstanding - hence the huge amount of potential unknown debt in Africa. It's not planned debt trap diplomacy it's loan sharking on a international scale.
@gauravtejpal8901
@gauravtejpal8901 Жыл бұрын
The Imperialists would love for China to be poor. They succeeded in enslaving Africa but their dream of completely enslaving Asia was not fulfilled. They project their deep desire outwards and latch on to anything that smells like doom...
@bobsmith3983
@bobsmith3983 Жыл бұрын
@gauravtejpal8901 Nonsense.
@ngkeam9491
@ngkeam9491 Жыл бұрын
@@bobsmith3983 -sensible!
@picandvideo
@picandvideo Жыл бұрын
Why predicting a prosperous country to fail. A wishful thinking out of evil psyche. 😵‍💫
@rap3208
@rap3208 Жыл бұрын
yeah, they keep on repeating the impending fall of China in the hope that it will happen because that's all they can do They've tried competing, they've tried sabotaging China and they failed or keep failing.
@aw954
@aw954 Жыл бұрын
well said!
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
Reading here commentators wishing America will fail
@ahliong
@ahliong Жыл бұрын
​@@Andy-Pwhich country caused mayhem and destruction and life loss ?
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
@@ahliong Russia?
@JanBanJoovi-ol1qv
@JanBanJoovi-ol1qv Жыл бұрын
Many have forgotten (or rather not aware) that in the ancient times, China is an economic powerhouse. Even back then, China has been ruling the world’s commercial trade, until it lost its economic power (and regarded as sleeping giant). China has gained back its economic power by way of dictatorship combined with capitalism and slavery (one way or another) of its common citizens. The entire world has given China so much economic power (by taking advantage of its slave-like labour) that nowadays it’s not that easy to bring China down (just to fight the bullying of CCP). Yes, several big multinational entities have pulled out from China but they’ve been replaced by other global entities. A lot of things to discuss, could be endless discussions, but China won’t go down easily. And that is the situation thanks to all of us who patronage China’s manufacturing. In no time, China will take over the electric car maket. Every single industry will be taken over by China, because everything relies on China. I hate CCP as well, but China will remain relevant for many many years even if we start campaigning against Chinese goods now.
@kckoay6211
@kckoay6211 Жыл бұрын
Penzai (pronounce bonsai in Japanese) is an ancient Chinese art traceable to the Tang Dynasty (618 to 907 AD). The Chinese word “penzai” literally means “tray planting.” It is the art of growing and depicting artistically formed trees, shrubs in miniature landscapes in small and often shallow trays. The art demands careful and precise controlling and pruning where the plant is slowly shaped to give the appearance of an older, mature tree. The ultimate goal is for the tree to finally take on a shape that resembles how the tree would look growing in nature. In order to achieve that desired effect, the bonsai master will at times allow the tree to flourish uncontrolled. At other times, he would use wires to control and shape its growth. If he exerts too much control, the tree dies. Lack of control, and the tree grows wild. It is through the act of balancing between allowing the tree to flourish and under controlled growth, he creates a master piece. The Chinese economic planners fully appreciate that laissez-faire economics theory - the dependence on the equilibrium of supply and demand to efficiently direct the production of goods and services - is a fallacy. If left alone and let the market do its own thing, the wealth gap would aggravate with no protection of the inalienable rights of the masses against the minority rich and powerful. Hence, certain key economic functions are retained in the hand of the state. The recent regulatory framework designed to rein in the unfettered power of internet giants is case in point. The result is - a more equitable and sustainable growth.
@zenlei8258
@zenlei8258 Жыл бұрын
BS. China economy is State Monopolistic Mafia owned.
@darshanchung
@darshanchung Жыл бұрын
Is that why china has such a large income gap?
@happyhappynuts
@happyhappynuts Жыл бұрын
HuKou is the biggest barrier to equity
@LDW1961
@LDW1961 Жыл бұрын
😂
@LDW1961
@LDW1961 Жыл бұрын
The CCP grandees are not rich and powerful? You really believe their Bullshit like an innocent child! How can Capitalism grow without a wealth gap? It can't, and Mr Brightside here, even admit it's successful rise was by adopting Capitalism! That comes with the territory, you can't have Capitalism in the office and socialism at home, unless you're free like Sweden. With a dictator, it fails. Always.
@namelesswarrior4760
@namelesswarrior4760 Жыл бұрын
According to the latest predictions from the world renown 'FAKE' China experts Peter Zeihan, China as a nation with 1.4 billion people will be extinct within the decade.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
I did not mention Peter Zeihan, but he is in the same categorie. I read his book, and cannot agree on what he wrote on China. Just had no time to zoom into it.
@skydragon23101979
@skydragon23101979 Жыл бұрын
@@PascalCoppensHe has some valid points about China but his narrative is that oh because China has such and such a problem it would fail, although US has such and such a problem we will find solutions. It’s like only US government will find solutions and chinese government would sit on the problem and watch it fail.
@sltung6130
@sltung6130 Жыл бұрын
Zeihan has been talking about the end of China for year with titles... End of China in 30 days. Bullshit
@MrTrinitius
@MrTrinitius Жыл бұрын
Peter Zeihan may still be right. I’m sure someone in Washington has been planning for that, but if that happens I wonder if the rest of the human species will also disappear along with them.
@skydragon23101979
@skydragon23101979 Жыл бұрын
@@MrTrinitius Yup there is always the very remote possibility of it happening like the earth exploding tomorrow or a huge meteorite hitting earth causing a huge extinction event or the sun’s fusion process stop.
@EkantBhairab
@EkantBhairab Жыл бұрын
Chinese people are intelligent and kind as well. This soft power is more powerful than wars and bombs and this is why west hates China 🇨🇳❤️🙏
@leo7957
@leo7957 Жыл бұрын
是的,一些国家通过自己控制的社交平台和媒体对中国进行舆论攻击,试图影响世界对中国的看法和中国的稳定。应该被重视
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
Why does China hate the west?
@AM-bv8vi
@AM-bv8vi Жыл бұрын
Is that why China is building up it military? Is that why its threatening Taiwan, Japan, Philippines, Indonesia, and Vietnam? Is that why China harasses US naval reconnaissance in international waters? Or why the Chinese navy harasses its neighbors?
@albwilso9
@albwilso9 Жыл бұрын
Incredible. Good talk!!!
@fockbgs937
@fockbgs937 Жыл бұрын
From the Ming Dynasty in China in the 14th century, the Angsa missionaries in the West brought many science and technology books from China. The West learned a lot of Chinese science and technology and copied them. At that time, many names still used Chinese names. But in the Qing Dynasty of China in the 17th century, the government suppressed technology and made China fall behind, causing the West to overtake China. Now, China is returning to the era of crazy technological development. In the future, the West will never be able to surpass China, and then steal China's technology behind.
@lionvictor9944
@lionvictor9944 Жыл бұрын
Great video Pascal. You are right in every aspect of presentation. Truth prevails.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kevinswift8654
@kevinswift8654 Жыл бұрын
I think he did a good job but I mean a lot of it is opinion he's not Nostradamus.
@eddiehah9842
@eddiehah9842 Жыл бұрын
Mr. PC, you are just awesome, Thanks for the info.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@richardgoh6697
@richardgoh6697 Жыл бұрын
I hv either read or heard of China going to disintegrate and collapse for decades. The West, esp the Anglo-Saxon race just cannot stomach a strong China which they had had bullied, attacked and invaded since 1840, 1860, 1900 till 1945. China needs not worry about their negative comments and just have to concentrate on growth and prosperity. The West, now being led by an arrogant and hegemonic US can continue to maintain their totally unproductive military bases when their economy is fast declining and they will ultimately disappear from the world scene.
@woosiewmei
@woosiewmei Жыл бұрын
Great analysis Pascal. China is a reliable good friend, Russia, that can provide water, food and energy in times of need.
@Ldsyldsy
@Ldsyldsy Жыл бұрын
Those who are familiar with Chinese history know this: the Chinese people will accept humiliation, but they will not accept defeat. Those who suppress the Chinese people will be toppled.
@AM-bv8vi
@AM-bv8vi Жыл бұрын
Is that why they needed America's help in WWII?
@AM-bv8vi
@AM-bv8vi Жыл бұрын
Is that why they never won a war from a foreign invader in its entire history?
@bobsmith3983
@bobsmith3983 Жыл бұрын
@@AM-bv8vi Is that why the USA needed China's help to bail them out of the 2008 financial crisis?
@nanjiang1953
@nanjiang1953 Жыл бұрын
@@AM-bv8vi Republic of China is Taiwan 🇹🇼, not real China
@wingkeungkong415
@wingkeungkong415 Жыл бұрын
​@@AM-bv8viChina did not ask the Americato help America enter the Second World War Because the Japanese attack them
@holywu9606
@holywu9606 Жыл бұрын
I have heard something like what you say China was or is going to collapse or fail years and years ago , and there was someone he called himself an expert on China ( Gordon Chang ) ! Since Gordon Chang.said untill now there was and is nothing happened at all to China ! In contrast China is getting better , stronger and richer from day to day ! What I see today the propaganda of the West’s meanstream medias keep doing disinformation and lying about China ! They should remind themself that the more lies and disinfomation they do that is the more they lost or destroy themself and their reputation !
@chench1lla
@chench1lla Жыл бұрын
I love the subtle humor scattered throughout the presentation, thank you.
@DavidLee-ie7gv
@DavidLee-ie7gv Жыл бұрын
A big thank you for your comprensive analysis of China pass, present, future and possible uncertainty of certain issues. As for Gordon Chang , he is definitely history and a waste of time even to mention him. Thank you again Pascal.
@ngkeam9491
@ngkeam9491 Жыл бұрын
@david- this clown keeps forecasting China's collapse, reckon this buffoon will die prior to his prophesy becoming a reality?
@CarpsterKing
@CarpsterKing Жыл бұрын
The main problems facing the Anglo Saxon and EU countries concerning about China is that they cannot fathom how China has developed their economies and the whole infrastructures and social reforms at such warp speed .. they have no comprehension and answers to all these phenomenon except to create barriers and hurdles ... to envy ..contain and demonize China ...their obsession with China has come to a point that if there is an iota or indication of any unfavorable events happening in China be it politically...socially ...economically or natural disaster they will jump on the bandwagon like making a mountain out of a molehill to create chaos and disinformation . It is so ironic that the Anglo Saxon and EU countries are now in a more worse and dire situation on their social. economic and debts problems than China and yet they enthusiastically focus their malign intentions against China disregarding their own impending disaster which is already at their doorstep...
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
If only we would be more aware in EU of our own dire situation...sadly not.
@jrkr7357
@jrkr7357 Жыл бұрын
China is the most successful country that practices communism. That worries US. US is a dictator who can't accept a different system.
@user-du8qr4ve3u
@user-du8qr4ve3u Жыл бұрын
@@PascalCoppens 您有一个描述轻描淡写的带过----中国共产党是一个非常具有自我革新能力的政党,他知错就改,勇于担当,对中国人民来说,共产党更像是一个无微不至的大家长😀。中国出现崩溃的唯一前提是共产党失去了他的执政地位,陷入内部杂乱无章的争斗消耗
@questworldmatrix
@questworldmatrix Жыл бұрын
Anglos think they invented the wheel and think everyone else is too stupid the comprehend how to make their own, or that they shouldn't be allowed to because the Anglos made up IP laws to hide their ideas, and ideas they stole from others, behind to force royalty payments and general political coercion.
@user-du8qr4ve3u
@user-du8qr4ve3u Жыл бұрын
@@atix50 您认知上有错误,中国的出口只占gdp的17%,主力是庞大的人口所带来的内需市场。今年内需不足是有问题的,疫情三年带来的影响导致民间投资消费不足
@squidster3128
@squidster3128 Жыл бұрын
According to Gordon, China had consistently been failing every year for 2 decades!
@joem0088
@joem0088 Жыл бұрын
nothing but jealous smear champiagne.
@loktom4068
@loktom4068 Жыл бұрын
He will have to scrub off the word CHINA in his books and replace it to "UNCLE SIMON ACHE" to cash in his next business fortune. He's looking for his box of erasers from Ali Express already.
@user-cy3ce1gy7o
@user-cy3ce1gy7o Ай бұрын
He should start another book. The imminent collapse of USA
@jjl6094
@jjl6094 Жыл бұрын
if China really collapse, do you think any other countries would be survived?
@lizzhao7746
@lizzhao7746 Жыл бұрын
do not worry about China, the western is becoming poorer and pooer, more and more homeless and addicted people on streets, unaffordable home etc.
@dieterlanger2025
@dieterlanger2025 Жыл бұрын
Great Knowledge, great analysis. Very well presented. Thank you!
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@RichardBrett899
@RichardBrett899 Жыл бұрын
If we use Purchasing Power Parity, the US has already been behind China for many years. Germany is in recession. Canada's GDP is zero in 2023. So, I highly doubt China's economy will collapse any time soon, especially since China has a 5,000-year long history.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
Indeed
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
Egypt has a 5000 year old history. Guess they won't collapse any time soon.
@AlexandruMircea-xs4pu
@AlexandruMircea-xs4pu Жыл бұрын
The trade ballance is moore important then hystory existance. If i have no money, I will not bay from CHINA,. That means I will save and they will have less. True?
@RichardBrett899
@RichardBrett899 Жыл бұрын
@@AlexandruMircea-xs4pu Your spelling in English is terrible.
@albwilso9
@albwilso9 Жыл бұрын
All of this is what scares the American Capitalists!!! Instead of trying to coerce other countries to submit to The US, the American Capitalists refuse to change and adapt in a good way!!!
@colonylaser4860
@colonylaser4860 Жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right about next year the two elections will rise the stake like crazy. The worst case is some crazy hawk in the US and the DDP winning both elections, and like idiots start something so stupid they never anticipate would drag everyone in down a fiery hole. The best case is for KMT to win the election and people like ex-President Ma coming in and lowering the temperature on both sides. That said, what would happen if the US sees red and resorts to its old tricks of destabilizing a democratic elected government through coup or whatever. And if so what would be the PRC response? Yeah 2024, not going to be an easy year.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
a dangerous year indeed.
@alvinseah5423
@alvinseah5423 Жыл бұрын
Are you referring to the Sunflower movement of 2014? US has been there, done that
@darshanchung
@darshanchung Жыл бұрын
When did the USA ever destabilized a democratically elected government?
@darshanchung
@darshanchung Жыл бұрын
Who is supporting the military junta in Myanmar? Who is propping up the dictator in Syria and Cambodia? Who is funding North Korea?
@ohcho-fg4co
@ohcho-fg4co Жыл бұрын
As long as the communist holds power, China won't implode nor collapse. If China goes democracy and liberalization, China will collapse. But China is falling into the Middle Income Trap which is different from collapse.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
The middel income trap is a danger zone indeed.
@user-vc5qk9tg7u
@user-vc5qk9tg7u Жыл бұрын
if so, let China deal with it, let's not lecture them what they need to do, let's focus on our own backyard.
@bobsmith3983
@bobsmith3983 Жыл бұрын
@ohcho-fg4co That is assuming the CPC doesn't have an answer for the middle income trap. China has found solutions for everything so far. Just because one country has failed doesn't mean that others will. Don't project your failures on other countries. The quality of life in China has exceeded that of West. The West is dying.
@jackchiu7560
@jackchiu7560 Жыл бұрын
Welcome to the world of differences between China and the U.S.A.: When the U.S. singled out China as an outcast to its space program, particularly its International Space Station, all Chinese took it in stride and worked hard to catch up. And when China launched its Tiangong space station ten years later in 2021, the world signed up to carry out scientific experiments in space aboard the Tiangong, including the pathetic United States of America. When China planned to send its personnel to the moon in 2030, the U.S. vowed to conquer the moon on more time, in 2025, and the U.S. Space Force said it can wage a space war at any given time. The world is waiting to see who the winner will be. When the U.S. used Ukraine to destroy the Russian economy, lesser countries around the globe fear for themselves. But when Russia fought back and burned the collective West with high inflation, the world cheered up. When the U.S. was busy gathering allies and friends to contain the rise of the Chinese nation, the world applauded when China bridged the historical divide between Saudi Arabia and Iran and brought them together to serve the interests of all Muslims in the region, no matter what their religious tendencies might be. When the U.S. printed money without constraint just to appease its own population so they forget about the economic failure on American soil, China stabilized the economy of the world by maintaining a steady supply of much needed commodities while inflation flared up in the Western world until today. When the U.S. acted miserably in begging to have the lines of communications with China as if China is the bully who ignores "the leader of the world," people in all political circles secretly admired when China openly told the U.S. in their face to stop the theatrics and to truly show their sincerity for talks before any meetings can take place between the two sides. When the U.S. publicly displayed its fury at the Chinese Yuan replacing their petrodollar, the whole world enthusiastically embraced the de-dollarization movement that has been spreading like wildfire across the globe as a self-defense mechanism to lessen the possibility of American sanctions or to avoid being a victim of American sanctions for holding too much of the greenback in their foreign exchange reserves. When the U.S. tried its best to decouple from the Chinese economy, Elon Musk of Tesla voted to set up another giga-factory for EV batteries and to develop autonomous driving technology in China using Chinese artificial intelligence and Chinese global positioning devices, Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan Chase held a tech exchange investment in Shanghai to further embrace the Chinese economy and declared the opposition of American financial behemoths against decoupling from China, and Nvidia's Jensen Huang will visit other tech companies in China and declared his opposition to American sanctions against China that badly hurt the profitability of American tech companies while Apple's Tim Cook quit India and returned to China for iPhone productions. Now you know who is out to destroy it to forever maintain its supremacy over all others and who possesses the desire to share a common future with other nations around the globe.
@snookie51
@snookie51 Жыл бұрын
The strange thing is, with some of the countries in the west having growths that are near zero, or worse, negative, no one is saying their economies are collapsing. It always sounds to me like only China's economy can fall. But as we can mitness, the reality is clearly the opposite.
@seniorsergeanttomcroydon6401
@seniorsergeanttomcroydon6401 Жыл бұрын
You mean like many finance experts talking about countries like Venezuela or Turkey going to fail. You just need to broaden your knowledge to see there are more countries out there that just talk about China in the US. The quest for wisdom is worthy. I wish you well on your journey.
@glacierjing
@glacierjing Жыл бұрын
Because the conclusion was already decided before collecting evidence, hence there is no need of cross-checking the evidence, or horizontal comparison.
@PVLTD
@PVLTD Жыл бұрын
The US trying hard to push every country in the world to adopt democratic system because of freedom. In actual fact, the only country that could enjoy such so-called “freedom” is US. Such freedoms include of meddling of other countries, causing regime change, assassinating leaders, plotting proxy wars, spreading fake news, spying, sanctioning and controlling of them, even on her own allies. As for Gordon Chang, he is just one of US’s little puppies barking around.
@mikerussell3298
@mikerussell3298 Жыл бұрын
US is NOT a DEmocracy it is a dictatorship run by multi Billionaires for their military/Industrai profits.
@demonslayer1196
@demonslayer1196 Жыл бұрын
Precisely
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
...well the US has failed then hasn't it.
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
@@mikerussell3298 While China is a dictatorship for the CCP
@alfredwong6336
@alfredwong6336 Жыл бұрын
So true, wise guy
@wankee888
@wankee888 Жыл бұрын
all boils done to governance. They have very good governance. Bears may disagree
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
Never trust the bears, they sleep during winters!
@tuyolento3295
@tuyolento3295 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Pascal for a very good analysis of China's problems and opportunities. Many of the risks that you have listed down are very real and as you said China is tackling them. I would list one big thing that I feel is an enormous advantage that China has which most of the global north do not possess. This is the authoritarian system China has. Instead of seeing as a weakness it is in reality a strength. Governing a country as large and populous as China is not easy...you need a good government that can execute. I think in terms of execution China's system of government is superior to say the US. Many of America's problems are widely known but somehow the US is unable to resolve them. Look at India it is the largest democracy in the world that recently overtook China in terms of population size and western media tout her as the next China...in fact predicting that India would eventually surpass China economically just because she has so-called democracy and rule of law. We hear this narrative for many decades just as we hear about the impending collapse of China for many decades. But every year we are seeing India falling further and further behind....India is simply a very chaotic overpopulated country that is impossible to govern... nothing gets done... Modi is more involved in projecting India's status as a world geopolitical player and promoting his Hindu supremacy at home to win elections than tackling India's enormous problems. Overpopulation is in fact an albatross around India's neck instead of something that will turbocharge India's economic future. The future of the would is not one in the 50s and 60s where cheap labor can propel a large country into the ranks of middle income country. With AI... robotics and mechanization a country trying to become topdog will not need so many workers.....but India is producing workers out of their ears...where are all these excess workers going to find jobs in a world that is more protectionistic? Yes China has big problems but the CCP is bent of solving them. India has bigger problems that the western media is not reporting. India I think risk a revolution when the hordes of unemployed rebel.
@user-gq4uj9sv4z
@user-gq4uj9sv4z Жыл бұрын
agree with this point of view
@akashpatel8410
@akashpatel8410 Жыл бұрын
Your understanding of India is very poor . India is growing tremendously in last few years
@jmchng9662
@jmchng9662 Жыл бұрын
@@akashpatel8410 , When I first started posting my views on Yahoo Forum & now on You Tube, I had crossed swords with many Indian posters who loved to brag that their country will soon overtake China (and some even bragged of overtaking the US) within a decade or two. That was some 15 years ago. I would love to ask them where is India now?
@akashpatel8410
@akashpatel8410 Жыл бұрын
@@jmchng9662 frankly no one said that even big institutions never said that . I don't know if you are stupid or the people you are talking are stupid because 15 years ago China was not world's 2 largest economy (2007 it was 3.5)it was behind Japan at that time and India( 3.8) will takeover China and U.S around 2040 to 2050 depending on situations and currently India is 5th and will take over Germany and Japan in next 2 years I don't know how did you pullout that 15 years age someone said India will surpass u.s around this time because that time India was hopeless under Congress rule and many big scam were happening
@harryjones9762
@harryjones9762 Жыл бұрын
You've got a great heart for being humanity Outlook it's not open enough yet in the UNITED STATES as for China built a wall to protect people other created weapons of destruction this country needs to stop being arrogant and making a hero of a president that shutdown the government and took the security of nation away is treasonous against everyone in America
@josephfredbill
@josephfredbill Жыл бұрын
Your videos are fascinating and I am learning a great deal from them. Wish they were shorter (so I can get some work done ;-) )
@toddreynolds6522
@toddreynolds6522 Жыл бұрын
A bit like the collapse of North Korea, predicted by all the experts, which never happened. A nation that has survived very well for many decades.
@Jul_Nguyen
@Jul_Nguyen Жыл бұрын
Cuba did collapse a long time ago & to this day it still ...
@Jul_Nguyen
@Jul_Nguyen Жыл бұрын
Despite being Vietnam’s largest export market, the United States is currently ranked as a third-­tier diplomatic partner for Hanoi. (U Stay Away) is acting like a beggar asking Vietnam to upgrade to 2nd tier. Vietnam 's high ranking officials just visited Cuba recently
@Ottotherepoman1
@Ottotherepoman1 Жыл бұрын
okay, now you just destroyed all credibility, North Korea is currently having mass starvation. You call "surviving" being in a totalitarian police state you aren't allowed to leave? right comrade.
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
@@Ottotherepoman1 I think the NK succes story is what the CCP have in mind for the west in the "..community with a shared future for mankind."
@toddreynolds6522
@toddreynolds6522 Жыл бұрын
@@Ottotherepoman1 Yes, I agree that North Korea is the worst nation on the planet. However, many told us of the imminent demise of N.K. and it hasn't happened yet.
@tomiputra3720
@tomiputra3720 Жыл бұрын
Pascal, i think you forgot that the west is sanctioning China companies too and that is also reducing the GDP growth, but then China is still growing even with those new sanctions.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
True. China is under much pressure.
@AM-bv8vi
@AM-bv8vi Жыл бұрын
They sanction Chinese companies because the CCP uses those companies to conduct surveillance on foreign citizens, collect information on foreign government officials, and spy on the west!
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
Agreed. Half the growth though is debt fueled. That may get higher if GDP remains a political figure that has to be achieved.
@kirstinstrand6292
@kirstinstrand6292 Жыл бұрын
Sanctions are to reduce competition since the US truly is limited in skill and competence!😅😂
@garyfoster3237
@garyfoster3237 Жыл бұрын
The growth is massive debt because the CCP cannot fail, they will lose their objectives and goals of superseding the dollar and US economy. The investment money is leaving China as of the last several months / weeks. The effects are going to be really felt come in the next fiscal year.
@horridohobbies
@horridohobbies Жыл бұрын
We need to understand that China faces many challenges, just like every other major economy in the world. Are China's challenges more dire than, say, in the United States or United Kingdom or Germany? Hell, no! The USA faces huge problems. A huge $32 trillion national debt. A potential banking crisis. A potential real estate crisis. A demographic problem. Crumbling infrastructure. And so on. Over the past 50 years, China has demonstrated a far greater capacity for solving its problems than America has. I'll place my bet on China any day of the week.
@DONGXiiTheChinaOpportunity
@DONGXiiTheChinaOpportunity Жыл бұрын
Excellent talk, like always Pascal!
@g.m.8360
@g.m.8360 Жыл бұрын
The Chinese see things as opportunities while others see it as failure that is the different 😊
@user-du8qr4ve3u
@user-du8qr4ve3u Жыл бұрын
中国人最常用的一个词“危机”,“危”=危险,但后面来的是“机”,机=机遇。所以中国成语“化险为夷”,“防微杜渐”,都是中国人骨子里具备的素质,中国永不言败!
@joem0088
@joem0088 Жыл бұрын
To see a problem and not just give up but try try and try to solve it until its' solve gives it the appearance of "opportunties" . It's just glib talk AFTER the work is done.
@startitan0023
@startitan0023 Жыл бұрын
@@user-du8qr4ve3u 还有未雨绸缪, 愚公移山, 精卫填海, 福兮祸所依, 祸兮福所伏, 中国的历史, 有着无穷的关于成功的智慧
@startitan0023
@startitan0023 Жыл бұрын
@@joem0088 不, 这是规律, 不被忽视的失败, 终将变成成功的垫脚石。
@mikebacchus721
@mikebacchus721 Жыл бұрын
when will they claim US and British and NATO is going to collapse??? US has a One party system. they call Chinese government The communist party but never called US government as the capitalist Democrat or Republican party?? 😅😂 the West do the same thing as China when there's a housing market bubble in the US but the west never point out this. When US population reaches 1.4 billions like China is let's see how US deal with that to control a pandemic or feed that population 😅😂
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
There are double standards at play indeed
@alan9154
@alan9154 Жыл бұрын
China keeps it up, I had had full confidence on you, keep it up, China!
@williamppl3624
@williamppl3624 Жыл бұрын
If you think about it, the people who are pushing for the collapse of China are cold blooded af. Why would you want to see a country who suffered so much before 1945 and after 1945 collapse? The people in China right now are blooming like a beautiful flower, these people are prospering! Look at the vibrant cities, look at the happiness of the majority of the people, look how lively the streets of any cities in China are! A collapse will destroy billions of people, why would some people want to see that. Support peace, support positivity. 🍀💕
@aglis_
@aglis_ Жыл бұрын
The short answer is, most Western people don't know what China is like. I'm sure a decent amount of them think China is still a mostly agrarian country with some dusty polluted cities and maybe a portrait of Xi Jinping on every street corner. Along with that, they actually think Chinese people are miserable, starving, and yearning for "freedom". So an overthrow of the system even if "some people die" is somehow going to result in a net positive for the people living there. Not even kidding you. That is how mass manufactured consent propaganda works. It happened to Iraq and Libya and historically also to Hawaii before it got colonized.
@demonslayer1196
@demonslayer1196 Жыл бұрын
Jealous miscreants don't want others to succeed and do better. They would rather wreck and ruin, badmouth and blackmail to satiate inadequacies and shallow self esteem.
@hugo9618
@hugo9618 Жыл бұрын
In 100 trillion years, when the universe collapses, every country on this planet will also collapse. And China is not an exception.
@awjames1121
@awjames1121 Жыл бұрын
The so called 100 trillion year? You must be silly to think about 100 trillion years later?? We all think only usa education system teach this type of thinking and mindset to those study in usa?
@weelee4476
@weelee4476 4 ай бұрын
There is no proof that the universe will collapse and human beings will have the technologies to travel between planets. The Chinese system is a tried and proven systems that had stand the test of time up to now. There is something for the world can learn from China.
@kwaishiu6460
@kwaishiu6460 Жыл бұрын
Gorden Chang and Jim Cramer are two broken clocks without all the needles 😅😂😅😂
@ElCuentodeRoma
@ElCuentodeRoma Жыл бұрын
Amazing, amazing video! As someone who lived there 11 years, I can't agree with you more! Subscribed!!!
@theochemsRE
@theochemsRE Жыл бұрын
Your channel us quite interesting. Can I use this specific subject for introduction to Koreans, summarizing in Korean.
@susipangabean9343
@susipangabean9343 Жыл бұрын
Thanks to Gordon Chang, the claim made China stronger, able to find ways to avoid failures 🤪
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
I read more about Gordon Chang here than anywhere else
@alpenroseable
@alpenroseable Жыл бұрын
brilliant very precise and I agree
@obsmagician
@obsmagician Жыл бұрын
In China, they have only one party to govern the entire country. In my country, we have only 1 man to control all our fates. LOL
@tc-fz5qn
@tc-fz5qn Жыл бұрын
Good analysis and fair comments. China as a nation, has been around for 4000+ years. There's very little that they haven't experienced or have not overcome to get to where they are today. Today's problems/issues are just variations of the good, the bad and the ugly of the past which they will overcome all the same. I bet that China will still be there when the new kids on the block like the juvenile terrorist rogue state Banana Republic of America (BRA), the EU and other such groupings have long broken up and disappeared into the history of time. Relax.
@RichardBrett899
@RichardBrett899 Жыл бұрын
Don't forget to mention that Canada has also collasped.
@acvarthered
@acvarthered Жыл бұрын
No! China as a nation has not been around for 4000+ years. Countless dynasties and different governing groups over 4000 years is not a single nation.
@rap3208
@rap3208 Жыл бұрын
@@acvarthered lol! Yeah, keep on lying to yourself. They are a civilization/state. Keep on splitting hairs to make yourself feel good as you watch your country self-destruct..
@kanadashyuugo873
@kanadashyuugo873 Жыл бұрын
So is Egypt. Guess how much in common BOTH have today with either the Xia/Shang Dynasty or the 1st of Hierakonpolis
@weiliao7642
@weiliao7642 Жыл бұрын
@@kanadashyuugo873no, Egypt had a very early start yet not much else for the past 2000 years. China has up and downs but yet till 1800 it’s been a major power from the very beginning
@robertseaborne5758
@robertseaborne5758 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Pascal, for more of your well researched storying of China's progress and what the PRC/CPC is having to deal with as a consequence of such relatively rapid growth. The pace of China's growth is such that the response to by other nation states varies between admiration among much of the Global South, to envy among some of the slower growing developing countries, to outright fear on the part of major state powers who believe their share of global wealth and influence is being reduced as China's increases. Hence an increase in anti China rhetoric throughout much of the collective West.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
As a country develops the rate of growth becomes less. China is no exception. Debt fueled growth will catch up with it. For the CCP GDP is a political target. It will be achieved what ever the cost. (debt)
@wnklee6878
@wnklee6878 Жыл бұрын
@@Andy-P China also makes very expensive mistakes kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gsmbktiY07aac6c.html
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
Anti-China rhetoric is nothing to do with China's growth. More to do with her Foreign Policy. China economic model needs to change. Cannot have high growth forever even if that growth is fuelled by debt. Brazil had rapid growth along with other countries and they had to change their economic model. So did the existing western economies. Hence their low growth now.
@robertseaborne5758
@robertseaborne5758 Жыл бұрын
@@Andy-P China has the distinct advantage of knowing how to subordinate and manage capital and capitalists in order to meet it's socialist objectives. This is a lot more sophisticated and sustainable than leaving it almost entirely to the market place and its capitalist owners.
@user-in2xe7di6p
@user-in2xe7di6p Жыл бұрын
Absolutely, China failed. China's average personal income level have not exceed Luxembourg. GDP have not over pass USA. Air quality have not pass Sweden. Education have not pass Japan. Health care have not pass Belgium.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
So there is a lot of room to improve and evolve further still. If China's GDP per capita, healthcare, education and air quality would be as good as Sweden, China would be 4 times more powerful than United States is today. Maybe that is a good thing for us China is not there yet?
@commie5211
@commie5211 Жыл бұрын
China is his transition period, it is hard to say whether it will be successful or how long this period will be. But i don't think there will be a sudden collapse.
@joem0088
@joem0088 Жыл бұрын
The reason for Middle Income Trap is many low income economies growing on cheap labour advangtage never acquire the educational level to produce a thrieving tech industry. In the case of China with companies like Hauwei, DJI, CATL, BYD, Byte Dance, Alibaba ... it has become the leading or at least competitive players in global innovation. ASPI ranks China leading in 37 of 44 tech catagories, second in 7, combined with the number of PhD, and graduate in STEM also point to China's abilities to pass the middle income trap.
@jrkr7357
@jrkr7357 Жыл бұрын
1 China's GDP = 5.5 India. What will happen to India if China fails ?
@mipiace2504
@mipiace2504 Жыл бұрын
India will prosper
@ahliong
@ahliong Жыл бұрын
Can India handles the on slaught of the united snake slandered sanction .
@peterneil6859
@peterneil6859 Жыл бұрын
@@ahliong Yes, india can bark 24 hrs.....🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓
@ahliong
@ahliong Жыл бұрын
@@peterneil6859 holy cow !!!
@AM-bv8vi
@AM-bv8vi Жыл бұрын
India will replace them!
@obsmagician
@obsmagician Жыл бұрын
Sorry to look naive, but i have a question about Gordon Chang. Why does he have so much hatred towards China and by extension to Chinese people? Though why he has so much hatred towards China? Does he need money? Some issue with his ego maybe??
@malChhangte
@malChhangte Жыл бұрын
the thing about reports on china is that still you'd quote claims made by the ccp (like gdp) as absolute unadulterated fact which we know must be taken with a sack of salt
@benganchan1420
@benganchan1420 Жыл бұрын
In 5,000 years of history, china has probably collapsed 50 times with the last collapse in 1949 when the kuomingtang government under generalissimo chiang kai shek hightailed it to taiwan (where he proclaimed it as republic of china 🇹🇼) after losing the chinese civil war. 😂
@Time4Peace
@Time4Peace Жыл бұрын
I share your optimism too. China is a problem solver, so they will somehow solve the chip problem, as they have figured out the nuclear energy, space endeavour, AI and quantum computing. Yes, the Taiwan issue will be the red line and US knows that's China's Archilles' heel. China can deal with the red line without attacking militarily but containing economically. But even without the Taiwan issue, the West will conspire as a bloc to bring China down. Fortunately for China, it has already reached a point where it could survive even without the West, leveraging on its strong relations with Central Asia, Middle East, Africa and S America. China's strategy of non-interference and infrastructure building with emerging nations is more appealing to the third world than US's strategy of domination. A point will be reached when India too will be a part of that eco-system in which China is and the West will feel left out.
@benlorevil2268
@benlorevil2268 Жыл бұрын
Is not the west help China growth? Does China is self trillionaire
@fockbgs937
@fockbgs937 Жыл бұрын
From the Ming Dynasty in China in the 14th century, the Angsa missionaries in the West brought many science and technology books from China. The West learned a lot of Chinese science and technology and copied them. At that time, many names still used Chinese names. But in the Qing Dynasty of China in the 17th century, the government suppressed technology and made China fall behind, causing the West to overtake China. Now, China is returning to the era of crazy technological development. In the future, the West will never be able to surpass China, and then steal China's technology behind.
@Time4Peace
@Time4Peace 11 ай бұрын
@@fockbgs937 It's sad that technology becomes a weapon of one over another. It should be commercial competition and not between nations.
@kongr889
@kongr889 Жыл бұрын
I love your insights! I think u are factual, fair, and well balanced!
@bobguard
@bobguard Жыл бұрын
This is by far one of the most comprehensive and easily understood analysis of perceived China potential collapse. This is a real China expert who truly understand what he is talking about as he balanced between potential risks and actions taken to managed these risks, taking into consideration various local environment and context these risks occurred in. Kudos to Mr Pascal Coppens.
@Time4Peace
@Time4Peace Жыл бұрын
Many comments pit India vs China. West is trying hard to divide and conquer. As India grows, it's inevitable to look for huge market, and China is just over the border.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
its unnecessary to divide
@mikebacchus721
@mikebacchus721 Жыл бұрын
thanks again Pascal for i share your views on China.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@fightignorance3598
@fightignorance3598 Жыл бұрын
I wish your video could reach many many more people!
@quantly
@quantly Жыл бұрын
About the Chinese debt, I think I need to clarify something very important. We always talk about the debt, instead of asking where the money has gone. Chinese government uses the money to promote the infrastructures. There is a movement that our Chinese government improve the infrastructures even in the rural villages. Look at these rural villages, they have electricity, road of concrete, internet, clean water and so on. Of course, these projects are always not profitable. As a communist belief, the government is for the people, and everyone must share a modern society life. CCP also spends a lot of money to launch a project to move the rural villages inside the mountains to towns and cities. This project helps these people participate the development of whole society. As a comparison, how does the government of USA spend their money? The military and the war!
@alexma3939
@alexma3939 Жыл бұрын
objectively spoke the facts out ,thanks sir.
@SThrillz
@SThrillz Жыл бұрын
The intent is to flood the consciousness of people so they can pounce and take advantage of the slightest problem. They know it's ridiculous but the intent is to put people in a state where their minds are ready to be told to attack China.
@chansweeteng4689
@chansweeteng4689 Жыл бұрын
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@AM-bv8vi
@AM-bv8vi Жыл бұрын
Thanx for the communist Propaganda! Attack China? Really? What about the fact that China is threatening all their neighbors and interfering with shipping in international waters? What about the spying China does on the west? You're so full of crap!
@vegamoonlight
@vegamoonlight Жыл бұрын
Agree!
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
If you read Global Times then the attack on America is daily. Name me a popular main stream media in the west that attacks China on such a regular basis. If they did they wouldn't be main stream for one because people are just not interested. China stores make up a very small number of articles in main stream media.
@danielchampoux2790
@danielchampoux2790 Жыл бұрын
Us propaganda to keep investers away from china !
@reigak6599
@reigak6599 Жыл бұрын
As a Chinese living in the USA, I agree with you
@georgejesson1944
@georgejesson1944 Жыл бұрын
US : bark doggie India : woof woof
@user-rj5iz5uh3m
@user-rj5iz5uh3m Жыл бұрын
👍Thank you for you expertise opinion. 😊China’s current uptrend will turn down, but only after a longer period (200-300 years, historically in 5,000 years of civilisation) of running up and peaking.
@user-gc9yh2ic4q
@user-gc9yh2ic4q Жыл бұрын
If China is to collapse, then US has nothing to worry about. So if you believe what the US says all day, then you wouldn't even have such questions. As I see the only risk is Taiwan. Simply it's a button too easy to be pushed by the US out of panic.
@aw954
@aw954 Жыл бұрын
China will show to the world an example of the power of a rather functional meritocratic political system.
@mipiace2504
@mipiace2504 Жыл бұрын
We will see? But not so good as of yet…..
@AM-bv8vi
@AM-bv8vi Жыл бұрын
And they'll do that by bribing corrupt politicians and government officials in other countries
@AM-bv8vi
@AM-bv8vi Жыл бұрын
And they do this by steeling US technology!
@AM-bv8vi
@AM-bv8vi Жыл бұрын
And they'll do this by subverting our universities!
@craigkdillon
@craigkdillon Жыл бұрын
How do we define collapse? Do we mean the fall of the CCP? Do we mean the rise of poverty and loss of the middle class in China? Do we mean a change of people at the top of the CCP? Do we mean the end of major banks in China? Without definition, we have no idea what is meant by "collapse".
@macdowellandrew
@macdowellandrew Жыл бұрын
Mr. Pascal, China needs a great leap forward moment. Most advanced breakthrough in technology. Something like making EUV lithography machines on their own.
@bobsmith3983
@bobsmith3983 Жыл бұрын
The EUV lithography machine issue will be solved soon. Huawei has already developed a EUV source suitable for fabricating feature sizes of 5nM or less.
@JeffChen285
@JeffChen285 Жыл бұрын
All those pessimistic predictors will fail. The real problem is that they don't know why they are going to fail. Because they are using a wrong accounting system to calculate China. Here, I used "accounting" to replace Karl Marx's word "value" but they are pretty much the same thing. The western value system is based on the profitability of individual corporations, therefore, it is is pretty much static and individual based.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
That I agree. I put that in different videos last year
@pycpenn
@pycpenn Жыл бұрын
The high-speed rail system seems to be a good example. The system is not profitable, yet the spill-over effect on the economy is huge and far more important.
@bobsmith3983
@bobsmith3983 Жыл бұрын
@@pycpenn The HSR network is the tool being used to advance the Chinese economy. It may be not be self sustaining but it is part of the overall economy which is prospering. The Chinese government provides the infrastructure that enables the success of China.
@KC-pm2mf
@KC-pm2mf 10 ай бұрын
Presidential Shi said only reunion peacefully with Taiwan. Not a forceful reunion with Taiwan.
@shirleykong7814
@shirleykong7814 5 ай бұрын
I came from China and have lived in the States for last 40 years.I totally understand what you've managed to convey and overall am in agreement. Chinese people are very resilient, in addition, the power of long history and culture should never be underestimated. If you understand Confucius, you'll understand why the system can not fall easily and why the meaning of family is completely different from that in the west in general. A big country is built on many communities and communities are built on many families within the communities. In China that structure is very solid and well organized, which is one of the reasons there are simply very few homeless persons on the street. Chinese parents always emphasize their children's education, no exceptions.
@robertwong2218
@robertwong2218 Жыл бұрын
Excellent facts and analysis. No country can grow forever important thing is how the government manages crisis.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@pengs4
@pengs4 Жыл бұрын
Before China rising , I have never heard of so many discussions about China in west media . So the west is trying to figure out what to do with rising China, but not knowing how to deal with it. So maybe predicting the collapse of China will make the problem going away ?
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
funny
@Scott-zo8kl
@Scott-zo8kl Жыл бұрын
Pascal, you know China very well. Your analyse is neutral, not like many Western people, bias.
@willengel2458
@willengel2458 Жыл бұрын
the short answer is yes. even your Timex watch could fail. however, China is the only civilization capable of reinventing itself repeatedly throughout its long history that no other empire could.
@davidtang5986
@davidtang5986 Жыл бұрын
My prediction: the sun will rise in the east and sets in the west.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
smart man
@fernandoesteban2345
@fernandoesteban2345 Жыл бұрын
'Not fast enough' based on whose expectations? China leadership is probably more circumspect and deliberate than the West.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
Not fast enough...is a relative concept. If I compare with the speed of change in Europe, China is plenty fast enough. But I would hope the speed can increase still to keep the economy fueled.
@dancerinmaya6813
@dancerinmaya6813 Жыл бұрын
For a 1.4 billion ppl country, financial/economic stability is always more important than any speedy sudden moves...CN gov is so much better than the Western gov, and of course all China experts/analysts/etc--they only know their own perspective from a Western angle, and often try to impose their wants consciously or unconsciously.
@rsyrsy8543
@rsyrsy8543 Жыл бұрын
Your analysis are comprehensive with depth, it is really impressive.
@theochemsRE
@theochemsRE Жыл бұрын
I will refer to your channel if allowed.
@hsheuw
@hsheuw Жыл бұрын
I'm about to start watching but I will make my comments early nevertheless. Asking whether China can fail is as silly as asking whether Singapore can be ruled by non-PAP government. 😂. I so hope Mr Coppen can make similar analysis to Singapore and its PAP ruler 😊.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
I am no expert on Singapore, so would be out of my league.
@hsheuw
@hsheuw Жыл бұрын
@@PascalCoppens somewhat oot here. I see that you have a Dutch rather than French surname. I’m somewhat curious if your parents / grandparents are of Dutch-Indonesian origin..?
@ernestwoo8243
@ernestwoo8243 Жыл бұрын
On debt: I'd like to point out that when you go into debt for infrastructure building, there is usally a pay-back over time. When you go into debt to finance wars, the asset disappears and all you're left with is the debt along with a lot of destruction, displacement, death and misery. I disagree on the subject of Taiwan if the KMT wins a majority. Past patterns show that if this happens, the other side will double down and there'll be a color revolution and then a repeat of Ukraine. I hope China has a plan to nip this in the bud.
@PascalCoppens
@PascalCoppens Жыл бұрын
True on debt. Although China is not always been investing wisely in infrastructure either - but much less in military. As for KMT, I appreciate your viewpoint.
@johnyan836
@johnyan836 Жыл бұрын
Will China fail? I think you are referring to “will CCP fail?" It depends on the living of the Chinese people. If it will be better tomorrow, why not keep the CCP in power? if otherwise, who can assure that the "What Paper Revolution" would not happen again. Simple answer: economy. CCP has not failed because it handles the Chinese economy very well. It's doing well because the US, the European, and the developed countries all regard China as a friend. The situation was Changed a few years back, especially after the Covid pandemic.
@srmxe417
@srmxe417 Жыл бұрын
This is excellent insight. Thanks i subscribed for sure
@cedricwai7499
@cedricwai7499 Жыл бұрын
How can China be collapsing when she’s still sending more rockets into space?
@Andy-P
@Andy-P Жыл бұрын
Indeed. China is still going to be around in the forseeable future.
@johnwilliam1837
@johnwilliam1837 Жыл бұрын
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