I love your death note analysis videos so yes 100%

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Yes! Please make more videos like this! Heck, i'd love to see the following covered if you don't mind recommendations: * Who is the deadlier killer with a gun- Golgo 13 or Deadshot? * Would the Guyver control metal be unstoppable in the Dragon Ball Universe? * Unicron vs Galactus ( why not?) *Aptom vs Cell ( who has the better absorbsion Abilities?)

You could do who is smarter, Ayanokoji or Light? Or maybe Ayanokoji or L?

Do you read manhwa or LN? If so, can you scale Nirvana Jin Mori from God Of High School or LN Sung Jin Woo from Solo Levelling?

Only way it can be considered a loss or win is if the joker actually agree to the terms. L has to actually announce his intentions so that the joker does what he does. otherwise the joker will just play anything off because from an outsiders point of view it's just L being interested in the red hood.

Well, L has to figure out the identity AND catch/stop him. And he could only do that for 1/3 anyway. But unlike Batman, I don't think L would be like, "I know his identity but it doesn't matter." He'd be like, "I figured out 1/3. Execute that one." Which is still a loss, but 1 less Joker is a win for Gotham and all of DC's Earth, really. Sometimes even beyond Earth lol.

i mean joker would probably just straight up kill L (or torture him) if we are being honest like joker would find it entertaining that L is trying to find him but probably get bored and just blow him up (and by him i mean the city he is currently in)

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@@diveblock2058 It's really really hard to imagine that happening considering how cautious and anonymous L is. There is no insensitive for L to reveal himself in any way as it would not get him anywhere close to finding out the Joker's identity because L would most likely without much hesitation execute the Joker after achieving that. This match just doesn't make much sense to me. L does not need to get too close to the joker to find that out and therefore the Joker would have no real reason to gun for him.

Reminds me of a Dark Multiverse fan video where a version of Batman gets the Death Note and ultimately decides to start killing criminals with it.

The Court of Owls, League of Assassins, Joker and Bane at minimum have a strong chance, considering the 4 groups/individuals have outsmarted Batman on multiple occasions. Most others have no hope. Certain rogues may not count as "human" for the purpose of being killed by the book, like Poison Ivy or Clayface, due to their altered biology. In those cases Kira may simply be shit-out-of-luck. But normals like Crane, Cobblepot and Nigma? Dead instantly.

@@psychicsidekick4198 To be fair, I think Movie Light managed to orchestrate a death such that the person killed someone else? So it’s possible he could maybe get another person to kill Ivy for him if Ivy doesn’t count as human for the purposes of the death note.

On top of what everyone else said, someone hiring Deathstroke to deal with him will have Kira’s ass handed to him on a silver platter

If you mean literally all, then no. Like yeah the Penguin and all the mobsters are easy, they have their names. But Joker? Or even the Court of Owls. It's nye-impossible

AKA the Joker's original self is dead and no longer him.

That was a different timeline it’s not actually Alfred just so you know

​@@Randomguy09818 no, it's Batman talking to Alfred, not about Alfred

Fear God

so even if he figures it out joker will still blow up some hospital?

If you look at the "Kira vs. Batman" video, you can infer the answer to this easily.

I feel like L would work out that it's Bruce in 3 seconds just with simple logic. Clearly someone who loves Gotham and has access to virtually unlimited funds and technology. bruce Wayne. Next.

@@ceilingsintheireyes6288 he would need proof of said deduction which he wouldn’t get.

Careful people who think Bruce Wayne is the only multi billionaire in Gotham are going to tell you it's obvious.

Carefree drunken idiot Bruce Wayne? Batman? Ridiculous. Have you ever seen that rich boy lift? At most he’s privately funding Batman. Maybe a team of them. Now Lex Luthor? That’s your guy. Seriously though people only think it’s easy to figure out because there’re not in the world of the story. At most he’s a suspect.

joker doesnt even know the purpose

As always with comics that depends on the writers, in recent times he is mostly just a crazy dude with tons of power, the thing about joker is that he was never ment to challenge batman's mind henis there to challenge his morals, he is the chaos to batman's law. The one that is rightfully smart as batman is the riddler, when the writers don't make him into just a joke from the adam west era he is as smart or maybe smarter than batman, while batman is only able to defeat him thinking outside the box

@@nechocat1234 The Riddler sucks.

My theory is that the Joker's super sanity allows him to realize that the entire existence of his multiverse depends on him being the Joker. Without him and his crazy antics, the Batman series would go broke, so it doesn't matter how many lives he ruins when doing nothing ruins everything.

@@nechocat1234 Example plz as someone with only experience with riddler from the AA game series

he could, several times

Only if Batman uses the Deathnote [insert maniacal Joker laugh]

He could if he worked with the IRS

batman knows the jokers real name and knows where joker lives, watches over the jokers son and wifes house. Batman has known about jokers personal life for years. He just doesnt take action sadly

@@realme-tq4cq Thats not Jokers current personal life but his OLD life Usually he doesnt know where Joker is. Joker has always been able to challenge Batmans intellect

Well when Batman threatened to tell joker his identity making him freak out and then he threw himself off a cliff rather then know the truth but other’s versions of the joker might not care

@@StarSteve681 True. I guess it does depend. Still, I think Joker making a "delivery" joke and then blowing up a maternity ward of a hospital would be an moment in this hypothetical battle.

Yup. Joker was terrified in one of the shows when the situation came up where he thought an average guy could kill him with a bomb. He wants a real flashy ending not some nobody that he himself has no interest in.

​@@TrixyTrixter my favorite ep

this is just disrespect... makes me wish L is getting buried alive by being outsmarted because of his cockiness.

Joker could easily kill L to he honest

It would be a nightmare for him.

I'd love Joker vs Johan Liebert would be interesting If L stops the outbreak of WW3 , then he's not a walk in the park.

Yeah he would want to but L isn't Batman so he wouldn't.

@@grandcanyon-fu9zt oh god Joker and Johan together feels even more insane than Kratos and Asura in the same room

L would obviously know that. Do you think L is stupid lmao, Why do you think seth made this video in the first place? It's because he is a detective that almost rivals batman in intelligence.

@@itzYonko Batman's IQ is 192 while kid L was 250 - 300

Not any of the deleted ones?

The problem with these videos Batman and Joker live in paranormal world with God's, Alien's, Demon etc. Let me explain Batman on being World Greatest Detective is a master of 127 martial art's being the best H2H combatant basically Brawn and Brain combined and Joker just like Batman has a genius level intelligence and has his own chaotic fighting style in other words their conflict is both action packed and heavy dilagoue between ideology's .That's why most people can collab with them and do crossover's and that's why someone like Johan, Kira or L will never crossover beacuse they are not that speacial.

@@Resident4Island Kira's main strength is being able to kill literally anyone with a soul if he has their face and name. However once his method of killing is known, it becomes much easier to defend against.

Yeah get joker tried as a sane man as he is and throw him in the chair

@@tfordham13 good luck with that he's been in numerous max security prisons and finds a way out via by shenanigans or outside help

​@@Michael-sb8jfin maximum security in a mental asylum where there not meant to kill him plus joker has a reason to go after batman he doesn't have the same thinh towards L as L wouldn't care to go back after joker

That’s only in Three Jokers which isn’t cannon

@@idontevenknow7600 is it not?

@@NimbusTM it isn’t.

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Batman outsmarted Anti Monitor who also Destroyed a place that viewed DC as Fiction .

If that's the case, Joker being in a manga and it being read the opposite way would confuse him and cause him to slip up and get caught

that’s not 100% confirmed that’s just a theory i believe that it probably true for a few versions of the joker but not every joker i’ve seen the imaginary axis too

@@TypetwoAbsolute he’s actually been in a manga before, though I’m not sure if that version of him was aware of the 4th wall

@@lukefloor hence the “probably” Plus with the state of DC Comics last I checked anything you want is canon, or at least that’s what I still hear.

I think Joker would kill Light in general

Nah, he would hella laugh about it

Yeah or Joker would probably get in his head and/or reduce him to tears just by sheer manipulation.

Joker would just fuck with Light effortlessly. Joker, as wicked as he seems, is actually INCREDIBLY calculated and I'd argue, WAY MORE STABLE than Light, emotionally at least. Joker's ridiculously cunning and intelligent, you never quite know what he's about, meanwhile if not observed with a one sided eye like Light's father or his friends in the task force, Light's lies are quite obvious and are always pretty cheesy

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No, lol. L isn't defense less. He would be the one to kill/arrest the joker. L isn't dumb enough to send him back to Arkham lol.

@@GenUrobutcher Joker would find where he lives, laughing gas he’s entire crew, Then tortured him for two days until he gets bored …..he would do this all in two days and that’s the flight to his house. Modern day joker probably bodies the entire FBI agency with a bat.

@@asura3229 lmao you joker fanboys are so dumb. It's because of dumb writing joker could do this. Joker is a mere human. L has history of dealing with worse than joker like Beyond Birthday. L will take necessary precautions and he isn't dumb enough to send joker back to Arkham lol.

@@GenUrobutcher If it's the Joker then yeah L is fuckin defenseless against him

Not terrifying, just annoying. They’ll make up whatever bullshit they want to push the story with joker that week.

@@cryamistellimek9184 yeah I feel you, joker worked best as a small scale villain not with over complicated plots to destroy gotham but being there to mess up specific people, before the modern age joker the tought of joker having a backstory wasn't even important he either was a mafioso with clown makeup or a crazy dude doing petty crimes being batman's archnemesis is modern era stuff, when the righters made joker and batman needing each other existance is sickening it implies that batman is not doing super hero stuff to fix the city and is just doing it as a petty game with joker

@@cryamistellimek9184 So you can shit any idea, no matter how good it is, just call it nonsense and that's it, it's not an argument

Yeah, it's kinda silly treating this specific origin as canon and then wondering why no one figured it out. It's easy because you're falling into the trap of taking the Joker on his word. In all likelihood he didn't even have "one bad day", he just had a degenerative neurological disorder that lead him to go mad over time, then he retroactively applied a twisted philosophy to justify his behaviour until he was so far gone that he didn't need it, by which point he was already obsessed with demonstrating it. Even if he was confident in what his backstory is, he's not a reliable narrator, especially after how often he's gone to Arkham Asylum (whose founder electrocuted his first patient during shock therapy, was home to Harley Quinn, Scarecrow, and the second Black Mask during their prior careers in psychology, and is notorious for having doctors experiment on the patients).

@@cryamistellimek9184 and that's exactly why it's great. The joker not having a true origin means the possibilities of stories that can be told with him are endless.

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Why would they?

@@dynias7282 You have a lot to catch up on

As a FBI agent he is still on the lose.

Batman knows Joker's real identity and has been keeping his ex wife and son in witness protection in Alaska. TOok him a week to find it out (Also Bruce Told the jOker who HE WAS too at that time). I'm pretty sure L could find the same information just as fast if not faster given he doesn't spend most of his nights jumping off of rooftops.

This was never said in the video...L would still be able to find out the joker's identity as long as he gets to working before the work files are erased. the files weren't erased as soon as the joker fell, the files still existed at the point of the joker falling it's simply only a matter of time before the files do happen to get erased.

@@erichaskins1942 Even people who are smarter than L couldn't figure out who joker is though

@@bulbafett5001 Joker outsmarts Gods and aliens , so basically it won't matter

Right, but that's after Joker really got going. Basically, if L got interested in Joker during the Clown Prince Of Crime's first year, L could probably win. (Assuming the files existed for about a year. We aren't told exactly when they're deleted, so let's just say a year, because the government/EPA move slow irl) After that? Pretty much instant loss. Also, he can only figure out 1/3 Joker's identities. But assuming Red Hood/Killing Joke Joker is the 1st Joker (which I don't think he is but let's pretend for a second), then L can win in Year 1 and the other 2 Jokers possibly never exist. However, if I remember right, there's basically classic-Silver Age Joker, from the 60s and stuff, who is canonically the 1st Joker. Pretty sure Killing Joke Joker is then the 2nd. Because I think he's from the more modern era. Not even sure which is the 3rd? I'm gonna guess the one who cut his face off? Seems different enough from KJ Joker to be a 3rd lol. But who knows? They're all crazy.

L stopped ww3 at 8 years old

@@grandcanyon-fu9zt joker is as smart as batman and outsmarted the entire justice league so no

@@justsomebody5450 if both were on neutral grounds, L could definitely catch him.

@@grandcanyon-fu9zt its not about catching him though, its about winning

@@shastacat9632 It's true, it is about winning. In the end whatever happens the Joker basically wins, he wants to be caught meaning he would win in the end no matter what L does.

No jokers more truely sane he knows he isnt real most of the time

Also he said at the beginning that nobody ever found Jokers real identity but Batman did find his identity, he just didn't tell anyone about it

For the sake of the rules is matters but it really doesn’t make sense when it comes down to Joker’s character

@@ThefifthBishopofGord your wrong about that the joker is way too smart for L but at the end he just wants to have fun if L announces these rules it more than likely joker will accept and play by them unless he wants to torture L by killing someone close to him in order to make him stronger

@@sss_7399 Yeah, I honestly barely know anything about either characters and that does seem like something the Joker from what I know. Like I have literally not read or seen a single panel of death note before this video but I know a slight bit more since I have actually a seen panels with the joker in them

I mean what would revealing his identity really do like “the joker is John Doe now we can send people out to go catch him” like everyone’s been trying to catch him regardless revealing his true identity doesn’t change the goal or approach at all and doesn’t even really provide any useful info.

He would still want to know his identity His pride is too much

@@AdvancedGamer- but why is there pride in revealing a madman's former identity?....

@@iamLI3 Kira js proof

@@AdvancedGamer- but L doesn't think kira is a madman

If the story is in Death Note, then Joker loses.

@@grandcanyon-fu9zt no joker wins

@@grandcanyon-fu9zt also there's no way joker would exist in the death note universe so this like a combined universe

@@grandcanyon-fu9ztJoker beats L 9/10 times and it’s bullying, again only Joker knows what he’s doing it doesn’t matter how far ahead L thinks he is, Joker is gonna be ahead. He’s insane but a very methodical thinker don’t underestimate his intelligence just cause he’s insane.

@@justsomebody5450 agreed even if he did I feel like they’d laugh at him or underestimate him at first which would give Joker the automatic win. As soon as you let your guard down against Joker your fucked, superman did it and injustice happened lmao.

He isn't pure unpredictable chaos otherwise at times he would start trying to aid the world. Chaos swings all ways.

@@Dragoonsoul7878 You could very well argue that his chaos could help the world. It really depends on how you look at it.

the joker isnt just pure chaos though. he does do things with a purpose. he wants to make the world laugh like he does. he wants to teach people lessons in despair and madness. that life is chaos and a giant joke of suffering and tragedy. you might not be able to predict his moves easily but baiting a trap would be easy.

Nope

No, but Seth is always catching Ls

Please stopped no more who laugh. People who laugh gets boring really quick

@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec I'd don't know about you or anyone else but I'd read "The Khanh Nguyen Who Laughs"!

@@livelivingpoker Until I become so powerful I make conflict non existence thus no story.

@@KhanhNguyen-mh5ec It's due to poor execution. There is a character whose whole backstory (B Rex) is a page front and back. 14 textboxes. To me that's not a backstory, that's an idea held together by glue, duck tape, and a nearly terminal case of writer's block. If you have an idea, don't make it so blatant that you're out of ideas.

I think a better name would be " The Laughing Man "

*Death Note

Jinkies

No.

@@MichaelAChristian1 you must be forgetting about ultra instinct shaggy and god of destruction scooby doo. Two gods definitely sweep Kira

@@krankkid7394 Yeah super shaggy could figure it out.

Maby they wil cause the kira case or get deathnote first

Its over then.

Gg to the joker.

He would reduce his death sentence to 3 months of community service

@@rusty7984 Or using death note under supervision.

L's Morals are very questionable. these cases are higher on his value system than basic morals.

Actually no,No would be a child's play for Batman..so is Johan.. Bruce is just built different and the intellect feats are not even comparable..

What exactly are they trying to do? If this is L versus Batman in who can figure out each other's identity, L stomps 10/10 If it's who can catch each other first, Batman stomps 10/10

It'd likely be some kind of tie where they work together or ignore each other due to having the same goals of stopping crime.

Exactly, the only win condition would be to arrest him, sentence him to death and actually carrying out the sentence. That is of course if L doesn't care about proving the joker's ideology by killing him and doesn't want to rehabilitate him like batman

Yeah, but the police in DC is so embarrassingly incompetent lol. Joker usually just turns himself in and pleads for insanity despite that making no sense. If L caught Joker in his early days, he would've executed him right there and then

L would whip Gotham's law enforcement into shape with terrifying efficiency, assuming he didn't just pull the national agencies into his game first. There wouldn't be any 'incompetent official somehow lets the Joker out' for the Joker to abuse, L would seal the holes in his net first, before casting it. Likely through illegal means, depending on how much he wants to win the game.

well it is explained that joker doesn't fully try and him sometimes WANTING batman to catch him, plus considering that godlike entities can't even find out who the joker truly is its going to be one hell of a challenge. plus joker himself admits not even he knows his past and if he is going to have multiple he might as well choose what backstory he believes.

@@Mr_Edward_Nigma that keeps changing depending on the writter, for example in 3 Jokers It is explained that Batman always knew the who the Joker was. In most versions he is just a regular insane criminal, nothing special compared to Light Yagami who had top level intelligence and supernatural help from his Note, Misa and the Shinigami. The Joker is not a challengr to Batman as a detective, he never was, he is a challenge to his morals. It's not about wether Batman Will catch Joker, it's what Will he do after he gets him, kill him and break his n1 rule or follow the law. That was what Killing Joke was all about. Joker knew that he would get caught easily so his plan was to prove thqt good men like Batman and Gordon could turn bad like him.

I just watched Death Note for the first time, it’s just so gripping. I’m watching it again just after finishing it, something I’ve never done before.

ikr?

Killing people's mental health

THANK YOU! That was bugging me the whole story. Dude explained how L is the best detective in the world, prevented WW3 as a kid, and has the entire Interpol and FBI at his disposal, and you're telling me that he would care about some guy in a red hat?? Felt kinda forced. I feel like L wouldn't care until the Joker caused some significant chaos.

This isn't canon in every version

Not canon