LMAOO

​@@lonkstakeshere's the better one: imagine light seeing goku dodging 500 bullets per second coming from 30 snipers and walking TO light at the time in base just to make the meanest slap in history, all while light is panicking and running for his life

That's not how it works, goku won't be able to dodge and will die

@DrHarryZhang they dont really damage him, they just kinda scratch him

@@michaelmayers3622 No you are wrong. If both the cause and the conditions are impossible, that victim will die of a heart attack. So no matter what Light writes for Goku, will no work, and he will just have a heart attack. Which does nothing because Goku can heal from a crushed heart.

Plus Goku would still have a body and theoretically could teleport back to Earth and kill Light anyways lol. Even If somehow Goku could not come back he could still probably still smoke Light.

@@thegodofsaiyans535 Even Worse his real name is birth name is Kakarot not Son Goku

Well Gokus a special case When you die, you reincarnate and your orginal soul and identity are diluted, as seen with Uub and how the dragons needed living bodies to return the deceased souls during King Piccolos Arc, Earth in the Buu Saga, as well as everyone who died on Namek in the Freeza saga. Everyone who either didnt meet the wish criteria, OR had their bodies destroyed and were already reincarnated couldnt be wished back, or as with the Buu saga, Porunga needed to physically bring back the bodies THEN transfer the souls for everyone kid buu killed. The thing is Goku was also supposed to go through that, but Kami intervened so he could reach Snake Way. And his second death, he was ALREADY in otherworld, so he kinda skipped the whole reincarnationa nd soul cleansing debacle. So if Goku ever dies again, unless some specific event happens again, hes not getting special treatment and will reincarnate as someone else somewhere in the universe.

@@harpybeagle4931 As Far as i Remember only bad people Get reincarnated. Good people Go to Heaven. But FIGHTERS like Goku Get to keep their bodies and keep fighting for eternity. So no It wasnt Kami who made Goku have a body. Goku gets to keep his body because like other warriors he has earned that privilege. So no, If Goku dies again, like he did in the Cell Games, he will just keep training with King Kai Forever.

@@thegodofsaiyans535 Good point, but its kinda refuted by the fact that its an anime-only thing. Everyone in dragon ball undergoes reincarnation, its just the case you have super evil dudes who need intensive soul cleansing to become good people. For example, the ogres are anime-filler only and dont appear in the original manga, as well as neither the ideas that Goku was allowed to keep his body after death also only appeared in filler. Which is also contradicted that the filler also shows villains like the Ginyu force keeping their bodies in hell. As far as the series has been consistent with SOME things lol, its that alot of DBZ cosmology borrows from Buddhism, as such every character is assumedly going through traditional Buddhist interpretation of reincarnation. All the canon events of death, and resurrection support this from 1.) Needing a body for resurrections (King Piccolo Saga- the deceased Z Fighters were specifically mentioned as resurrected bc their bodies were kept in good shape, Resurrection F- when Frieza was revived it was in the pieces Trunks cut him into Gokus deaths all had him skip important aspects of reincarnating Moro Arc- Merus keeping his soul and identity required special intervention from the Grand Priest Buu Saga- Porunga said resurrecting Kid Buus victims could take time, implying he needed to resurrect each individual killed one by one, as well as Gokus wish implying had he not asked King Yemma for his favour, Kid Buu would have taken a much longer route to reincarnating via soul cleansing 2.) Bodies aren’t kept in the afterlife, everyone who canonically lives in Other world is an actual denizen maintaining the place, while deceased souls are only seen as the anonymous ghost blobs, with Goku again skipping the process when he died bc of special circumstances 3.) Besides Hakai, souls cannot be destroyed and merely transfer from a physical plane to a spiritual one, before returning back as a new identity 4.) Unique resurrections like Babas interventions with Grandpa Gohan, Goku, Vegeta and Freeza are contractual given the actual thing keeping them alive is a limited source of currency so to speak, so as seen w Grandpa Gohan, the process returns back to normal once its done

“You’re trying to kill GOKU?? I’m outta here man good luck.”

*Light screams in terror* *Ryuk flies immediately back to the shinigami realm*

"I heard this Ryuk guy's pretty strong!" Ryuk: 🏃‍♂️💨

Guko could die in heart disease that's why future trunks go to the past, I mean it's possible goku might die using death note due the the default cause is heart attack

😂

I feel like as soon as shenron or anyone else gives vegeta a name and location, hes BOLTING it over to smack light silly. Would probably get to him before goku too

​@@charlie-cv5dfand Vegeta would make sure it's painful as well

Pretty much

yeah butgoku is pretty much too dumb to ever figure out kira's identity.

@@marlonmarquez4798 watch the damn video before commenting

Bro he’s a guy who’s a little smarter then a few people with a note book to kill people I mean heck I mean if any of us had the death note and all we had to do was right Goku’a name and have his face in mind while writing we could kill him

@@aqeebshahbaz3306 However, we have the advantage that DB is a popular franchise in our world, Light lacks said luxury.

Goku doesn't forgive murders without punishment though.n

@@sarthakarora3212 I think destroying the book would be punishment enough. Probably would break Kira's ego or something.

​@@sarthakarora3212What about the Androids?

​@@sarthakarora3212Also Vegeta. And he was originally going to let Freiza live on namek even though he's basically space Hitler

@@saibot23724yeah I can totally see goku just destroying the note book once he finds light

I'm pretty sure also Dende, like Kami before him, can see everything on Earth with the Omniscient vision on the Lookout. Just so many superfluous layers of defense for Goku

Well, at least he'd have to be very specific about how he manipulates Gohan and Piccolo. Even if he asked them his "true" name, as far as they're concerned, Son Goku always has been and will be his name. Vegeta is the only Z-Fighter who considers "Kakarot" to be Goku's actual name.

why does only goku get the help of his entire verse while light has to be completely alone?

@@theendofthestart8179 cause Goku actually has a support network of people he’s helped out and befriended. Light only has Ryuk who’s only in this for the laughs and later Misa.

@@lloydchristian936 and the task force after L, and mikami, and Kiyomi Takada, and arguably Rem also. I really like how you "dont even consider"

​@@theendofthestart8179😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

The Death Note got a hardcover and a thick spine.

To be fair the only rule that needs to be Altered is that Goku isn't a human, but he was killed by a heart disease in another timeline so the death note should be able to effect him in a similar way if his name is writen In it.

if goku was in the deathnote universe, hed probably just killhimself eventually since there is nobody worth fighting.

Let's see, Goku isn't his birth name so he could never learn his true name. Any death besides heart attack could work unless goku is fast enough (he is) to restart his own heart. He's not human, it doesn't affect him too. Suiccide is the only option that might work assuming everything else I said is void. So...yeah Kira is not winning lol

@@theendofthestart8179 He would probably open a dojo until the Kira cult starts gaining speed and then start speaking against them. I don't see how Goku would or could be involved in the investigation, especially since he's not good at things like that.

But can you get a Big Mac there?

​​@@Rune25x**Diabolical laugh** H A M B U R G E R

Absolutely love that video by Solidjj

POV: you have good taste.

I'm unfamiliar with how Death Note works. Wouldn't the implication of the name be enough? Do you have to have their "true name"?

@@thatguyintherain3168 Watch the video

He was saying for the sake of the video though, the argument of “he just can’t take him out with the d note bc alien” is so boring lmao

u havent even watched the video so dont comment he legit said for the sake of the video we will change it to mortal not human

@@osamatnt9830 I’m aware of this, I made the comment because it’s a sick line 😭

Roll credits

. I don’t think you actually missed it, but was posting in case someone came in to be like “oh yeah he didn’t mention that” or whatever 1:37

The Death Note can't kill anyone else in the process of killing its target.

@@s.e.111films3 oooh I didnt knew that... but that make sense, Light could have written a order to one of the investigation team to kill L otherwise

And Vegeta has broken mind control from a goddamn WIZARD before.

"And disrespect MY heritage!? I will adress him with the name given to him by the glorious Saiyan race!"

since light is smarter than you, he would have written "the one commonly known as goku" just as a precaution.

But that's a really good question about the death note. What constitutes a name? For example , let's say you've got Jeffery , Jeffery's parents, family, friends, coworkers all call him Jeff. He introduces himself as Jeff, the only place he is Jeffery is on legal documents. So, would Jeff work in the death note, assuming you are thinking of him? If it does, Son Goku would also function in the death note the same way Regardless, the book says Human, he's a Saiyan , so.

​@@SolluxDivide it was redacted to even compete with goku

​@@SolluxDivideIt shouldn't because everyone calls L - Ryuzaki. And it doesn't work if you write Ryuzaki. So, real name does matter more than how someone calls you in your everyday life.

​​@@SolluxDivide Abbreviations or nicknames or alter egos aren't sufficient enough for the death note, you need the full name given at birth. So Jeff wouldn't be enough.

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The only way I can see Light winning is if for some odd reason, the Death note uses Son Goku as a name over Kakarot since Son Goku is his "human" name and kakarot is his saiyan name.

@@ishowslow5044however the death note doesn’t care it wants the true name like say I was born a girl but transitioned to a male the death note doesn’t want my male name but my birth name

@@levievil9220 ik, I was making the point that since the death note revolves around human deaths (not just death in general) that it would only accept Gokus human name over his saiyan name.

@@ishowslow5044 oh fair enough sorry if my comment seemed rude

@@levievil9220 nah it's okay lol

If Kira Killed Gohan, There’s no reason why Goku wouldn’t kill him on the spot.

@@AverageFrenchPerson If someone that isn't a multiverse-buster killed Gohan I think Chi-Chi would kill them first. Or Piccolo. Or Krillin. Or like.. literally any Z-Fighter that's not Tien or Chiotzu.

@@AverageFrenchPerson why would he be mad about piccolos kid? they have dragonballs...

@@theendofthestart8179 even if you say Piccolo Is more of a dad to gohan, the second part doesn’t help. The Dragon Balls(With the Exception of the Super Ones) Can’t revive a Being erased by a power higher than them(because the video stated that the killing power is on the level of zeno)

@@AverageFrenchPerson he wouldnt know about the book being more powerful until after he tries :D

yep

The Saiyans from the Dragon Ball universe do not have an established canonical language

@@lazm9379 Bulma had to translate the text on the scouter to something that she could read, so it is established that saiyan language is different from earths

@@kicka8604 from where was this from

@@lazm9379 not at home so can't get the exact place but it's just after raditz defeat when she repairs his scouter

but thats like, the entire plot of deathnote is that L wasnt his real name... YEAH I KNOW IT ACTUALLY WAS BUT THATS BESIDES THE POINT

why didnt goku just magic find the cell larvae and destory it? or any of the androids while they were being made, or any of the villians who managed to use the dragon balls? goku cant just magic locate random japanese teens at will.

You are also unfairly pinning JUST LIGHT against the entire DBZ universe, why is light uniquely alone in this scenario? afriad that Goku would probably let Misa right his name just to test his strength (as seen when he literally let himself die to hit)

@@theendofthestart8179 ... y'do realize how long it takes for misa to come into the picture, right

@@hi-i-am-atan less than a year, compared to how long it took for goku to get to ssj?

@@theendofthestart8179 that is a comparison you can make, yes. i'm not sure it actually _means_ anything in this context, but you can indeed compare the lengths of two periods of time either way, that's not exactly a _short_ timeframe, and it comes about because light recognizes the need for the shinigami eyes because of, y'know, l, means he recognizes it because a. l's public announcement of tracking down kira and b. his _numerous encounters with l face-to-face._ without the latter of which, the shinigami eyes wouldn't be all that useful anyway. so it's questionable if misa would even enter the picture at all, she'd probably end up coming into play later even if she did, and even the same pace would give the z-fighters plenty of time to track down a rogue shinigami hanging out in a major population center. especially since i doubt shinigami ki blends in well with human ki hell. something i didn't even consider: dende. the lookout might not let him see absolutely _everything_ going on on earth, but he'd be one of the first the celestial bureaucracy would call in a situation like this and spotting a shinigami trailing behind a random kid on his way to prep school doesn't even come close to a stretch. maybe ryuk would have the sense to not stay around light as much as he does in death note, but ... he's also ryuk, and his entire motivation doing shit and seeing what happens, so he'd likely only do that if light convinced him not to follow him around. which, like. why would he do that. ryuk is full of useful information and he'd have no idea about the jolly green man in the sky who spends his days doing nothing but people watch, so without the opportunity and time to learn more about the world's supernatural elements, there'd be no reason to tell the invisible emo man to not follow him around there's a reason why androids not having ki to sense and dr. gero doing everything in his hidden lab in the middle of bumfuck nowhere were such key details in the android saga. there's ways to get away with shit under everyone's noses, absolutely, but it involves covering a _lot_ of bases that some bored honor student would have no way of knowing about

it seems unfair that we are pitting baby light against a modern stories goku, while also in the dragon ball universe. (this is because this is the only way for goku to easily win)

@@theendofthestart8179 ​ I mean, this is a pretty unconventional what if anyways. We are even giving Light so many benefits of the doubts. We are making the scenario that Light wants to kill and knows the existance of Goku, Goku not having any idea that Light wants to kill him, assuming that the Death Note works on Goku despite showing that with enough power in Dragon Ball hacks can and will be nullified and that killing Goku is the winning point for Light despite the afterlife and reincarnation/revival being massive plot points in Dragon Ball. This shouldn't even be a discussion in the first place since the verses are so far apart in common senses and general rules.

@@marethyumoros1741 See im just and advocate for fair discussion, I do still think goku wins, I just think there where he wins is the "despite the afterlife and reincarnation/revival being massive plot points in Dragon Ball." part

​@@marethyumoros1741the problem is, the hax part only appeals to likes of hit since the letter stated that *HIS*ability has weaknesses in the manga.

@@Kira22558 the hakai. Stated to even "erase the soul".

The irony is that Goku can sense evil people and/or intent from a person. So he'll auto notice light.

@@dannyc4550 I thought that was him reading Ki?

@@thethingoidif it is then two things will happen goku will either think light is insanely strong or 2 light has ki so he can sense the intent and what I mean by the first part is goku would presume light would have something above god ki because god ki makes it so other people can’t sense it

@@thethingoidNearly everyone has ki except for the Androids. With how malicious Light is I wouldn’t be surprised if Goku managed to pick up some bad vibes off him despite how minuscule Light’s ki signature is or how friendly he makes himself to be

@@thethingoid Goku can sense ki, but he can also sense a person intentions, and evil for some reason.

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@@aCantbreakMea Hi, yeah, thnx for checking it out!

Sounds straight from Officially Divine

@@plzno7714 it does lol

strongest Sayian? Broly*?

​​@@theendofthestart8179 Goku is stronger. Broly can't even hit him now that he's mastered ultra instinct

@@Johanliebert574 I dont read dragon ball, only watch.

Light: "ok goku, but if you let me transform, I can give you an ever better fight" Goku: "ok" Light: *write it down* WOMP WOMP

they would most likely say Son Goku instead of Kakarot

@@Casual_Otaku Why? They know his birth name is Kakarot, and they are already being forced to speak.

I thought about that too. It would be possible. The trouble is that Goku could discover and kill Light before anything happens(40s lol). Also even If for the sake of argument Goku could not come back to life through some method. He still has a body in the afterlife and could theoretically come back and smoke Light.

@@jeremymorris345 Picolo is a Nameless namekian do you think death note would work on someone who doesn't even have a name.

@@jeremymorris345 also the speed they would say it at can be very fast for light to even hear it

I bet bulma's name and face are everywhere online, nobody is THAT rich without it right?

​@@theendofthestart8179yes but then vegeta explodes japan in a sec If he discovers someone is treatening his wife

@@CERISTHEDEV how would vegeta know to nuke japan? and I dont think the z-fighters would let him kill THAT many innocents... though they may not be able to stop him hmmm

In this scenario he gets cooked by mr satan and videl

They’re ignoring if the death note would work and just thinking about what would happen if it did

Yes I agree, its more like "people" than "human" The heart virus kill a pre-cell goku, he is much stronger now inside and out, but I still think the book would do the trick, especially with the self inflicted. I think its important to remember that light is canonically smarter than you and me, and would be able to come up with a plan neither of us can ever think of.

@@theendofthestart8179 honestly if Misa is in play, Light just automatically wins. The Cell Game footage is available to the public, and the Shinigami Eyes have been shown to work through cameras

@@heatran1919 Indeed, and although this heavily biased video for some reason is pitting start of the show Light vs modern goku, I think thats fucking stupid and that light should have access to both misa AND Teru Mikami. heck id even give him the post-L japanese task force. I think goku would unironically be cooked if light is only trying to kill him. The biggest problem for light is that death doesnt really stop goku...

I agree that this video is incredibly biased but I still think it's hypothetically possible that goku might just be too strong for the death note to work.

"The laws of the Death Note specify that it targets humans" is arguably just a translation error, the original text more closely says "person" it just never mattered.

What about this? light uses the death note to control a random person, he writes “X leaves a piece of the death note under a rock on at Y location before going somewhere and killing themselves in a place that won’t be found for weeks” then light once that piece of note is at Y location, and he has never been there it is unable to be traced back to him. He would then use his notebook again and write “Son Gohan (this can be anyone who knows Goku’s birth name) will conceal fly to Y location where he will write the true birth name given to Goku followed by “suicide in 40 seconds” while picturing his face in his mind, and then will stand still for a full minute before committing suicide”

@theendofthestart8179 All the dragon ball characters consider Goku to be Goku's true brith name. That suggestion may work with Vegeta. However, no one knows Vegeta's full name. (Which is Prince Vegeta IV.)

@@johnbalkin8223 the z fighters fucking know goku’s birth name isn’t the one given to him by a fucking human dude

@@johnbalkin8223 unless you think that somehow the word “birth” means something different in dbz in which case, go fuck yourself.

And how would he know about Jaco's existence? He doesn't arrive on Earth too often + not many people know about him

Wouldn't that just imply that Piccolo becomes his true name if he was nameless before.

​@@jeremymorris345Honestly i don't know. If he DIDN'T have a name before, then Piccolo COULD be his now "real" name. But what If he DID have a real name before but simply forgot or something like that. Keep in mind Namekians do have names and stuff. So since the Death Note uses the original name, then nobody would know.

@@thegodofsaiyans535 Well, if Piccolo truly did have a name before, then sure, but we don't know that.

It would depend entirely on how one would attribute the Namekians Piccolo's absorbed as part of his name. Because in theory they still exist inside Piccolo, or at least their energy. If the Death Note took that as something alive enough to kill, then by writing down "Kami, Guardian of Earth", or "Nail, Hero of Namek", that would in theory weaken Piccolo a fair bit, and in turn make "Piccolo" his only remaining name. Though, since this goes off Super's logic, and we have the Universe 6 Namekians who absorbed their entire race for strength and still only had two names, either "Piccolo" is the true name for Piccolo, or there is no name for the Death Note to take. Or, well, there's a third option. "King Piccolo Jr", due to how he was first introduced. And if Light got the Red Ribbon Army info, he'd have access to this knowledge. Still doesn't help him in the end.

except Vegeta..

I think its fair to say that even if light did have ki traceable, it would be indistinguishable from the millions of other Japanese teens, and that goku would need to touch a note to be able to have any sensory input that would inform him of ryuk

are you implying that goku could beat Arale? Because I HEAVILY disagree.

@theendofthestart8179 Yes I am actually. You could argue dbs goku can't yet (I think he could after ultra instinct), but you can't argue that beerus couldn't, and you certainly can't argue that final goku (end of timeline goku from the last episode of dbz) couldn't. Final goku is stated to be the "strongest period, and he couldn't lose to anybody" by akira toriyama himself in a guide with arale listed a fighter lol.

@@zombie9865 not really sure why youre brining up irrelevant alternate time lines that have nothing to do with current debate. If you choose to believe that goku could overpower the deathnote thats fine, you can have that opinion, I just dont think there will ever be a way to confirm if he could or not since they are from entirely different fictions, and you know, dbz's entire lack of physics

@theendofthestart8179 well for one, that's not an "irrelevant alternate timeline". Final goku is the one on the last episode of dragonball z. It's the goku who fights uub, it's where dbs is leading to. Akira toriyama said in an interview that super wouldn't go past it, and that the end of z is the true ending of dragonball. He is cannon, and he's absolutely greater than arale. And the idea that you can't compare fiction just kinda nulls literally everything. The video we're commenting under, the youtubers past scaling videos, and even your comment about goku vs arale is just thrown out the window with your logic. I don't know why you seem so aggressive in your comment either I was just answering your question.

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@@lonkstakes Hey do you think this plan would work for killing goku with the deathnote? light uses the death note to control a random person, he writes “X leaves a piece of the death note under a rock on at Y location before going somewhere and killing themselves in a place that won’t be found for weeks” then light once that piece of note is at Y location, and he has never been there it is unable to be traced back to him. He would then use his notebook again and write “Son Gohan (this can be anyone who knows Goku’s birth name) will conceal fly to Y location where he will write the true birth name given to Goku followed by “suicide in 40 seconds” while picturing his face in his mind, and then will stand still for a full minute before committing suicide”

Not all heroes wear capes, some wear whatever this guy is wearing.

Ryuk would not allow light to live if he wasnt able to use the not anymore. that would be boring.

im not sure what you mean by "original" if you mean unchanged then it would probably still work as the word "human" in the deathnote is just a translation, and the japanese word more closely resembles "person"

It shouldn't work because everyone calls L - Ryuzaki. And it doesn't work if you write Ryuzaki. So, real name does matter more than how someone calls you in your everyday life.

@@My_Master_Waves much appreciated man, I completely forgot that it was prominent in the story lol

your argument only works on the emotional level tho, yes grandpa Gohan was Goku's "father" and Goku is his given name, but at the end of the day if we're being technical it is still a second name and his actual given name from his bio dad was Kakarot and I highly doubt the death note would make this type of nuances EDIT: and like it's said in the video: Goku now accepts and acknowledge the name Kakarot as well so it's a rap

@@aanthonyy_ People can be born without a name. If someone’s mother dies in childbirth, and the father isn’t in the picture, a kid would need to be named either by a relative or by someone in an orphanage. In which case, I’m pretty sure that a notebook granted by a literal god of death wouldn’t just simply distinguish between “was this name given by their birth parent” or not. Otherwise, some people (albeit rare) would just be immune to the Death Note’s powers. Considering it’s a magic notebook, I’d assume there’s just some higher power that determines the difference between an alias / fake name and a real name. Using the idea that “Goku isn’t his real name,” PICCOLO isn’t Piccolo’s real name. Once he fused with Kami, he returned to being a nameless Namekian who forgot his name, and only continued calling himself piccolo on principle. That means that the DN wouldn’t work on Piccolo either

@@vizzy6473 my point was that your first name is what works on the death note, not whatever you change it for lol mb for the confusion

It shouldn't because everyone calls L - Ryuzaki. And it doesn't work if you write Ryuzaki. So, real name does matter more than how someone calls you in your everyday life.

@@My_Master_Waves that’s because Ryuzaki isn’t his name, it’s an Alias. If L was born with the name L Lawliet, but was given the name Ryuzaki by Wammy’s house or some other orphanage, I believe writing Ryuzaki would work

Because some people say light wins

Because our translation of "human" with the same term Is used to "mortal" and this Is the same term Zamasu referred to all mortals. The point Is Just the meaning we give on the translation

@@lonkstakes like video there is only problem some is watch timeline to make sure there is interloper or someone missing to the story someone I don’t know like the time patrollers

because its fun my guy

Yeah, and then Gohan would snap out of it, go Beast 2 or even 3 (upon realizing what made Piccolo die is what made him kill Goku), and then Light is atomized on the spot. Then sent to Yemma, and then he's sent to hell and becomes someone's bottom bitch.

@@michaellevin2861 I mean he would have to die for the mind control to take effect. But the really funny part is going to be Goku instant transmitting right in front of light and light just seeing the halo above His head and instantly realizing how much he fucked up.