Why Saitama VS Perfect Cell Is NOT Close!

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Chuck

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Why Saitama VS Perfect Cell Is NOT Close! Could Saitama Defeat Perfect Cell? When it comes to impressive and cunning villains, few come as far as Cell, Dr. Gero's ultimate creation which was meant to absorb the androids and curbstomp the Z-fighters. Although the spotted biomechanical menace proved to be too much for Goku, Vegeta, Trunks, Piccolo, and the others, his threat was finally stopped by Son Gohan's sparking new transformation. But what if in this universe, One Punch Man characters coexisted in the world of Dragon Ball, and as a result, the caped baldy, Saitama, found himself entering the tournament. Would he be able to come out on top, or will Cell's goal for universal destruction be achieved? Find out the answer to this and much more as I go over feats, scaling, statements, and the like to see who would be the victor!
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@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Who you guys got? The caped baldy or the perfect lifeform?
@juulhuh
@juulhuh Ай бұрын
Cell slams. Instant transmission one shots fodder baldhead.
@Gabriel-Crandall
@Gabriel-Crandall Ай бұрын
Which saitama are you talking about, manga anime or the live action one?
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog Ай бұрын
Saitama
@Grandpa_Reezy
@Grandpa_Reezy Ай бұрын
Cell, with the abilities and zenkai boost, he’s gonna beat saitama
@MRBass6000
@MRBass6000 Ай бұрын
Cell washes saitama. P is for 'Priceless', the look upon your faces E is for 'Extinction', all your puny races R for 'Revolution', which will be televised F is for how f**ked you are, now allow me to reprise... E is for 'Eccentric', just listen to my song C is for 'Completion', that I've waited for so long! T is for the 'Terror', upon you I'll bestow... *Chuckling* My name is Perfect Cell. And I'd like to say... Hello
@Mr_muscle_man72
@Mr_muscle_man72 Ай бұрын
“Would you lose ?” Cell: “nah I’d suck”
@Ale2raw
@Ale2raw Ай бұрын
pause
@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U
@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U Ай бұрын
saitama one shots db verse lol. saitama looked into these debates , one punched the author gaykira lol. even gaykira cant save goku now, cause he's already got one punched lol
@Ale2raw
@Ale2raw Ай бұрын
@@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U you’re actually weird
@Batistuta-ft3vs
@Batistuta-ft3vs Ай бұрын
@@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U i'm a opm fan but you shouldn't be making fun of a death person ..
@-Your_dad_left_you
@-Your_dad_left_you Ай бұрын
​@@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_Upov,: *when a kid losses to a debate and get mad because saitama doesn't even get passed galaxy level*
@yashaoftheflames8475
@yashaoftheflames8475 Ай бұрын
They're both dbs Krillin victims
@samueljetstreamrodrigues1864
@samueljetstreamrodrigues1864 Ай бұрын
sadly , yes
@KaijuKev814
@KaijuKev814 Ай бұрын
End of DBZ Yamcha victims 😂
@gabrieltorres6633
@gabrieltorres6633 Ай бұрын
Krillin not even bullet level😂
@MRBass6000
@MRBass6000 Ай бұрын
​@@gabrieltorres6633*primal powerscaler angry sounds in the background
@he_who_has_no_name
@he_who_has_no_name Ай бұрын
​@@gabrieltorres6633he was running at a similar level to 18. Who was running with Ribrianne. Who was ToP ssj level. With ToP ssj's being at least 50× the power of SSJG Goku from BoG. Who is above the whole of Z.
@bigyoshi5170
@bigyoshi5170 Ай бұрын
I think you mean *Mr* Perfect Cell, also Saitama stands no chance because as soon as Cell sings it’s all over for Saitama.
@marlinmurrell620
@marlinmurrell620 Ай бұрын
It's Perfect Cell, how can he absorb people?
@zenkaiforms
@zenkaiforms Ай бұрын
The perfect voice is unmatched
@divine1ne564
@divine1ne564 Ай бұрын
P is for priceless, the look upon your faces. E is for extinction all your puny races. R for rrrelvolution which will be televised. F is for how f**ked you are, now allow me to reprise... E is for eccentric just listen to my song. C is for completion that I've waited for so long! T is for the terror upon you I'll bestow. My name is Perfect Cell, and I like to say... Hello.
@lolstalgic9602
@lolstalgic9602 Ай бұрын
Aw man. Now I want a OPM abridged... ...From TeamFourStar.
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
@CerealExperimentsMizuki Ай бұрын
Yeah becsuse Cell will be singing his song of death when Saitama one punches him.
@Justthenormalguy
@Justthenormalguy Ай бұрын
I feel like 0:52 was a reference to the cell encounters in tfs where saitama said “nah I can’t be there there’s a sale tomorrow”
@aaronlefebre5060
@aaronlefebre5060 Ай бұрын
"I don't think you understand. If I win, there won't *be* a tomorrow!"
@emerald_sustrai2002
@emerald_sustrai2002 Ай бұрын
Great video as always chuck
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@hotfunyunsop6196
@hotfunyunsop6196 Ай бұрын
Awesome vid as always chuck!
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Thanks again!
@wesleykim6523
@wesleykim6523 Ай бұрын
I remember back when Cell vs Saitama first became a debate. From what I remember, it was mostly agreed that Cell was still stronger than Saitama due to statements and feats. But now, with Saitama’s new feats in the manga, it looks like he’s getting up there in confirmed power.
@Steven_178
@Steven_178 Ай бұрын
Yeah I remember that too, back then when we didn't know saitama's full power and alot of people we're guessing solar system level like dang feels like a long time ago
@unclephillymya
@unclephillymya Ай бұрын
Back then Saitama had only jumped back from the moon and beat Boros Nowdays he has more feats
@Gremlin969
@Gremlin969 Ай бұрын
​@remixgod4496 them Saitama gets even stronger
@0kei
@0kei Ай бұрын
Also kind of weird to compare a relatively new character to one that comes near the end of a very very long saga. It's like saying Goku would definetly lose vs Hokage Naruto if only the first 3 episodes of DBZ had been released so far.
@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U
@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U Ай бұрын
saitama one shots db verse lol. saitama looked into these debates , one punched the author gaykira lol. even gaykira cant save goku now, cause he's already got one punched lol
@7evenseas975
@7evenseas975 Ай бұрын
Perfect Kars in Dragon ball As soon as he figures out ki, he will be a beast
@Souplord1
@Souplord1 Ай бұрын
I love jojos!
@ucantknowwhoiamformyownsaftey
@ucantknowwhoiamformyownsaftey Ай бұрын
He actually would as well, if Goku can go from destroying a building in the 80's to being able to destroy a multiverse now, Kars should too.
@jaelonsanders5878
@jaelonsanders5878 Ай бұрын
Ultimate Kars would solo dragon ball imo. If he has an IQ of 400, can phase and absorb people, as well as possess them, contains information from the ENTIRE evolutionary process, and is stated to be able to turn into any living thing, he most definitely could absorb Saiyan DNA, and if not Saiyan than the human/Saiyan hybrids. His zenkai boost would be insane
@ucantknowwhoiamformyownsaftey
@ucantknowwhoiamformyownsaftey Ай бұрын
@@jaelonsanders5878 He doesn't. Kid Goku is stronger and faster. Dragon Ball characters are sextillions of times faster than light and can destroy multiverses.
@randomyoutuber2633
@randomyoutuber2633 Ай бұрын
​@ucantknowwhoiamformyownsaftey Yeah, but they do that with Ki and it's not farfetched to say that Kars would instantly master KI when he figures out how to use it just like he instantly mastered Hamon. Kars also can just modify himself with DNA from every living creature which probably includes saiyans if you put him in Dragon Ball.
@kazi1
@kazi1 Ай бұрын
Great video
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Thanks!
@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U
@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U Ай бұрын
saitama one shots db verse lol. saitama looked into these debates , one punched the author gaykira lol. even gaykira cant save goku now, cause he's already got one punched lol
@jayari7674
@jayari7674 Ай бұрын
I would say that saitama has more evidence to win this one. But it starts to get dicey for him in the buu saga.
@K.O-ANIMATIONS
@K.O-ANIMATIONS Ай бұрын
Yeah Buu shook the universe with a scream when he was roasted by Vegito lol
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
@CerealExperimentsMizuki Ай бұрын
​@@K.O-ANIMATIONS an amped Buu containing the powers of Piccolo, Ultimate Gohan, Two overpowered kids, Fat Buu and his own power which surpassed all of them multipule times over apart from Ultimate Gohan.
@captchan9819
@captchan9819 Ай бұрын
I doubt that. Saitama can pulverize cell in their first match. Wait till he gain saiyan zenkai boost and freeza's innate talent multiple times. Saitama shows that he can't destroy every bit of boros in order to stop its regeneration. Imagine he did that to someone like cell who keep on getting stronger after regenerating. I'm not talking about 2x stronger or 10x stronger but 30x more powerful than he previously was. He will eventually beat saitama. Especially saitama is not known to be an intelligent fighter, he will just punch you. If boros who is not as durable as cell can withstand and survive saitama. I think that speaks volume. Zenkai boost and freeza's innate talent will definitely devour saitama. Again we haven't seen saitama's full power but I guess saitama will only win if he went back in time and kill cell in his larvae form. Also hax in dragon ball doesn't mean sure win. They can force their way out of difficult situation by sheer force. If somehow saitama turn back time there's a possibility that he will still see cell complete form cuz you know time doesn't mean anything to a saiyan. Like what goku did to hit. Saitama has a chance though if he can kill every bit of particle cell has to stop its regeneration.
@K.O-ANIMATIONS
@K.O-ANIMATIONS Ай бұрын
@@CerealExperimentsMizuki ok... its still a person from dbz still though...
@CerealExperimentsMizuki
@CerealExperimentsMizuki Ай бұрын
@@K.O-ANIMATIONS yeah I know, what's your point??
@Darbzila
@Darbzila Ай бұрын
Now this is a perfect video
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@luukzilla1519
@luukzilla1519 Ай бұрын
Can Doomsday (Comics version) solo the DOOM universe?
@luukzilla1519
@luukzilla1519 Ай бұрын
I can see him just ripping most Demons apart but only having trouble with the Titans and Icon of Sin
@some_shitposting_idiot3023
@some_shitposting_idiot3023 Ай бұрын
Anything can solo the doom verse
@user-hy1dk6ey1z
@user-hy1dk6ey1z Ай бұрын
​@@some_shitposting_idiot3023doom slayer with the crucible defeats comics doomsday
@luukzilla1519
@luukzilla1519 Ай бұрын
​@@user-hy1dk6ey1z Doomsday vs Doom Slayer might actually be a tie
@user-hy1dk6ey1z
@user-hy1dk6ey1z Ай бұрын
@@luukzilla1519 how so?
@Steven_178
@Steven_178 Ай бұрын
If we get more feats from empty void wouldn't mind seeing a hypothetical fight between cell or buu would be fun
@CupaTeaForU
@CupaTeaForU Ай бұрын
people seem to forget saitama has never actually took damage aside from the gag with the cat. and it seems he grows in power much faster than zenkai boosts
@Vi3Voide
@Vi3Voide 7 күн бұрын
he has never been damaged because he lives in a fodder verse, im sure Goku would be "invulnerable" too if you dropped him in the Baki universe or smth
@IDKSS
@IDKSS Ай бұрын
Even if we don't take Cell's claim of being Universal seriously, he should still be multi-galactic, as Cell is much, much stronger than Frieza, whose power level was 120 million, and one only needs a power level of 10k to destroy a planet, so even with a lowball estimate, that should put Frieza at least at Multi-Solar System level.
@morelipstickmorecheapchick7472
@morelipstickmorecheapchick7472 Ай бұрын
... you think a galaxy is only 12K times more than a planet?
@IDFCClan
@IDFCClan Ай бұрын
@@morelipstickmorecheapchick7472 if you powerscaled it yes he would be able to destroy a galaxy easily within like 10 seconds at full speed and power
@morelipstickmorecheapchick7472
@morelipstickmorecheapchick7472 Ай бұрын
@@IDFCClan "galaxy level" implies a single attack, not that you fly around destroying every planet singularly, or every character with insane speed would be universal
@THEMilesMorales
@THEMilesMorales Ай бұрын
@@morelipstickmorecheapchick7472 I mean that's how people scale flash 🤷🏾‍♂️
@morelipstickmorecheapchick7472
@morelipstickmorecheapchick7472 Ай бұрын
@@THEMilesMorales no they don't, they scale him as such because he can punch you at really really absurd speeds
@ghosti79
@ghosti79 Ай бұрын
Basically everyone in One Punch Man is weak except for the main character because he's the main character but everyone in Dragon Ball is super strong.
@K.O-ANIMATIONS
@K.O-ANIMATIONS Ай бұрын
yeah and most opm fans think that "Saitama was never hurt meaning he beats fiction" LOLOLOLOL
@CERISTHEDEV
@CERISTHEDEV Ай бұрын
I mean roshi with 3 digit power levels could destroy the moon So scale that to freeza with 7 digit power levels and you realize that freeza one shots almost the entire opm verse with one death lazer (Also speed scales to power in DB so not even flashy flash gonna cut here) (Also also he solos the entire verse except cosmic garou, saitama, homeless emperor, and god,)
@Gremlin969
@Gremlin969 Ай бұрын
He doesn't need to beat fiction to be able to defeat perfect cell whos inferior to cosmic garou ​@K.O-ANIMATIONS
@K.O-ANIMATIONS
@K.O-ANIMATIONS Ай бұрын
@@Gremlin969 Well I think its this way in my opinion Saitama > Garou Cell > Saitama Cell < Garou
@g.masterlordoftheg-force4770
@g.masterlordoftheg-force4770 Ай бұрын
It depends. Dragon Ball characters are weak when compared to GODs, angels and Zeno. Same goes for One Punch Man. Characters are weak compared to God-level monsters.
@tagteamduelist1686
@tagteamduelist1686 Ай бұрын
You see my thing is... we have seen Cell's peak potential. His breaking point and maximum damage outputs. You can say he has all of his feats laid bare on the table, but Saitama as far as we know could be an entirely immesurable force. We have not seen anyone do any real damage to Saitama at all, we have not seen him winded or tired, or even hurt or bleeding. We have not seen the limit to his power, or speed, or literally any maximum feat and he has quite literally been able to travel through time with a learned technique. I really dont think there is any way you can realistically judge this fight strictly because we have no clue what Saitama's maximum anything is.
@unclephillymya
@unclephillymya Ай бұрын
Another W vid Chuck 🔥 🔥
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Thanks g!
@trevorvalencia1550
@trevorvalencia1550 Ай бұрын
U should debate baruto vs bleach univerise and great video chuck love all the content ❤
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@mathcm0007
@mathcm0007 Ай бұрын
DB verse rules are, if your opponent can control time, space, mind control or any other hax ability, it doesn't matter, if you're stronger, you can break through it.
@dredgengam4610
@dredgengam4610 Ай бұрын
I think it's Cell's Hacks that give him the edge. All it takes is one singular cell of his to survive for him to fully Regen and get a massive Zenkai. Saitama would probably make cell leapfrog his previous capabilities from when the fight first started. It wouldn't be close to easy for Saitama. If there was a ratio, it would be closer to 60/40 in cell's favor. Also because Cell can sense energy, he would feel Saitama out and know to not play around with him too much. The Frieza in his cells would make him cunning and ruthless enough to refuse to allow Saitama too many opportunities to get over on him easily and the goku and Vegeta in him would be looking for tactical advantages to ensure he's got control during the battle. The pride of Vegeta might get him into a bit of trouble early on though.
@ZeonicMerc-nt3cv
@ZeonicMerc-nt3cv Ай бұрын
Oooh, now this I'd like to see animated in sprite animation.
@daddyGbaby
@daddyGbaby Ай бұрын
Great Video! I think it covered the topic pretty well. my only question would be who could adapt better to the other. since cell is an android with infinite stamina and all the experience of the z fighters the case could be made that cell could out adapt saitama especially if you considering the z fighters performance in super.
@Wolfbroa
@Wolfbroa Ай бұрын
Also chuck I think fun video you should try based on random meme I saw is try power scale or see how op goku would be if he had every ability from dragon ball, if canon or non canon only that’s up to you but would be so fun seeing the op he could be
@MildsandThatYac
@MildsandThatYac Ай бұрын
I need you to make video on the cosmology and spacial dimension in DB/DBS if you already haven’t
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
I have! Check out my Dragon ball cosmology video I did a few years back!
@ProfBlaq
@ProfBlaq Ай бұрын
Before I watch the video, no. Super perfect Cell was confirmed to be able to blast away the universe 7 solar system with his final Kamehameha. Saitama currently shows NO feats that come close to matching this
@floppy3962
@floppy3962 Ай бұрын
idk how caught up you are in the manga. but in the re-draws for empty void. saitama was confirmed 4d+, with statemesnts and a feats from 2 other characters. garou also states in the fight "if anyone can master gods power it is you" reffering to saitama. and later on blast states "the attack comes from a higher dimension, it ignores distance, speed and energy. that is one of gods powers". refering to this being one of gods weaker powers.
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
I'm aware of the statements from Blast, but what do you mean he was confirmed 4D?
@onthehunt2297
@onthehunt2297 Ай бұрын
Great job Chuck I reckon saitama can win by pure strength but if cell gets too many zenkais then it could go to cell and keep up the amazing work
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@BlindEyeVisions
@BlindEyeVisions Ай бұрын
Seeing an airplane fly through the sky, is alot different than seeing 2 flies fighting
@silver800
@silver800 Ай бұрын
Please do a video on Yogiri Takatou! Nobody has covered how broken he is (from "My instant death ability is OP"). I think he's one of the most broken characters in fiction.
@XxCaptNKnucklesxX
@XxCaptNKnucklesxX Ай бұрын
This
@sharkotario808
@sharkotario808 28 күн бұрын
i find funny how some people think saitama would get damaged by any dragon ball attacks
@Mope333
@Mope333 23 күн бұрын
True 😂 their attacks is no different than Cosmic Garou’s
@hemireborn6450
@hemireborn6450 2 күн бұрын
I thinks it's because those "any dragon ball attacks" can destroy universes with ease
@sharkotario808
@sharkotario808 2 күн бұрын
@@hemireborn6450 not saitama
@Mope333
@Mope333 2 күн бұрын
@@hemireborn6450 but that never happened nor from what we seen
@hemireborn6450
@hemireborn6450 2 күн бұрын
@@Mope333 even in BoG Goku could destroy an universe. what makes you think that now, when they are billions of times stronger, they can't do it anymore?
@ijikegaming4202
@ijikegaming4202 Ай бұрын
I feel like what most people forget is there’s still several arcs till the end of one punch man and definitely he’ll probably be on some of the stronger characters in fiction by the end of his series maybe even genos could solo a lot of univeses we don’t know
@Unknown_editz117
@Unknown_editz117 Ай бұрын
I'm not hating, but do you know how absurdly high the strongest in fiction scale 💀. Again, I'm just asking
@ijikegaming4202
@ijikegaming4202 Ай бұрын
@@Unknown_editz117 I’m not saying strongest learn to read I’ve seen how broken some characters are but certainly he will be more powerful than most characters of fiction probably at least 99 percent of fiction he’s going to be stronger than them most characters in fiction are weak as hell there’s easily millions of characters and he’s easily stronger than most of them
@jafsjafs8820
@jafsjafs8820 Ай бұрын
​@@ijikegaming4202 not gonna happen kiddo. cry and cope more. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@ijikegaming4202
@ijikegaming4202 Ай бұрын
@@jafsjafs8820 not a kid stupid also yes it’s there’s so many fictional characters and I’ve definitely read way more than you there’s easily millions of characters in fiction and most of them are super weak my calculations are off but it’s even rarer for characters to be stronger than saitama than you think for every 10000 characters there’s maybe 1 that’s stronger and that’s if you don’t think about cultivation stories even if most don’t get mentioned there’s easily millions for every character saitama is weaker then non mentioned characters just exist and most are weaker maybe there’s probably 10 million at least could be more most characters though aren’t that strong though if you read more stuff then whatever series you’re a fan of you would quickly figure that out most likely a dbz fan that only watches and or reads dbz it’s fin to do it but it’s not fine when you act like you know what your talking about when you don’t I mean I don’t either but it’s closer than whatever you think it’s he is easily in the one percent and there’s so many fictional characters that I couldn’t even begin to comprehend how many there are but most are not multi galaxy levels of feats of strength that’s just straight up a fact my numbers are most likely wrong but he’s definitely higher than 99 percentile
@jafsjafs8820
@jafsjafs8820 Ай бұрын
@@ijikegaming4202 even dbs krillin is much stronger than all opm characters. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@milessaxton
@milessaxton Ай бұрын
I’d say it’s largely up to interpretation with what we have
@LucidNightmares6077
@LucidNightmares6077 Ай бұрын
I went on an anime power scaling binge for like three years it started with swagkage and ended after the keem star seth vs entire anime debate community arc. I wasnt mad at seth of anybody i just watched all of swag and seth and even your videos like 100 times the only reason u caught me with this one is cause i thing cell is way less talked abt as a villain u didnt disappoint the video was fire im more down for cell winning in raw power but if he pulls the same shit he pulls against every one he fights u know the fuck around find out thing then saitama might dick on him also in my opinion cell only wins for now saitamas feats only reach the cell games now but just a while ago they only reached namek saga this ridiculously fast power cliffing is most likely gonna end with him at the lowest ssj3 level from the buu saga.
@lolstalgic9602
@lolstalgic9602 Ай бұрын
I find it sad Cell never made it past Solar System Level, considering he's the best main villain they ever had.
@HolyZombieX
@HolyZombieX Ай бұрын
You can literally make cell galaxy level if you use the nebula statement or Namek blowing up and can be seen in space
@Lemme-sniff-ya
@Lemme-sniff-ya Ай бұрын
well he fucked around and he found out.
@Zenith_Nulls
@Zenith_Nulls Ай бұрын
@@Lemme-sniff-ya LMAOOOO
@markmontes17
@markmontes17 Ай бұрын
Saitama's growth in IO, was literally like him getting thousands of Zenkai boosts. I think most people underestimate just how much both he and Garou were growing in that fight
@SonGoku_K
@SonGoku_K Ай бұрын
He got only around 10x stronger during that entire fight
@wackityhackity553
@wackityhackity553 Ай бұрын
@@SonGoku_K Still exponential and in a short time, and lets be real, cell gave Goku and them time to train, he would do the same for saitama
@markmontes17
@markmontes17 Ай бұрын
@@SonGoku_K If we take the chart shown literally it was more than 10 times
@dreadblock7592
@dreadblock7592 Ай бұрын
​@@SonGoku_K 10 × the strength in less then milliseconds since they are moving supposedly 8000 times faster than light. Not that I agree with it because they didnt really give a time frame for when they were moving around Io. I personally prefer 100× for being safe. Which is still a fast growth rate.
@razor_ramon_
@razor_ramon_ Ай бұрын
@@dreadblock7592 and considering it's exponential (!), 1000s of times power scaling up was inevitable
@angelosusa4258
@angelosusa4258 Ай бұрын
“Why didn’t you tell me he was so handsome!?” TFS I agree it’s since it’s more up to interpretation and how serious they take the fight
@Meetrandomtimes
@Meetrandomtimes Ай бұрын
You should probably make a video with empty void in the future
@Sylverzen
@Sylverzen Ай бұрын
Yamcha vs Black Frieza doesn't even come close to the gap between Perfect Cell and Saitama
@Custer_X_Of_The_DAU
@Custer_X_Of_The_DAU Ай бұрын
now can you do Majin Buu/Kid Buu vs Saitama next please?
@michaeljosiahwarren3350
@michaeljosiahwarren3350 Ай бұрын
Can you do the ultimate lifeform vs perfect lifeform
@djpine6299
@djpine6299 Ай бұрын
Saitama has a lot more feats, and a handful of statements that I say put him over Perfect Cell. While Cell has a good amount of statements but not near as many feats.
@carso1500
@carso1500 6 күн бұрын
That is the problem with most of dragón ball yes
@SteeloFN
@SteeloFN Ай бұрын
Tbh Anime(s) power scaling are just truly absurd. But honestly this matchup is lowkey very close than we think. Great content brother 💜
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@smile1600
@smile1600 Ай бұрын
​​​​​​@@Chuck You forgot some statements ! 1) We have Blast who has higher dimensional perception not being able to see an end to saitamas power , meanwhile he can see higher dimensional energies and attacks coming from higher dimensions ! 2) You have garou stating that saitama could master and surpase gods powers without taking gods hand ! We know that god is interdimensional being , yet garou suggests that saitama can pass that level of strength . 3) Genos stated after getting the future core , that saitama destroyied jupiter not just the gas .( I think this was stated when genos was explaing what he saw through the core , to the s class ) 4) You also have space bending feats like , being complitly imune to black holes and saitama being able to grab subspace portals ! judging by how they function , ( where garou does not have to go inside and through a different space , but rather has instantaneous teleportation, suggesting that these subspace portals use higher dimensions , or hyperspace ) they work more like hyperapace portals ! 5) You also have genos stating that saitama transcendet space and time ! I think saitama would scale at 4d multiversla at bare minimum ! Especialy considering that EV with only a fraction of gods power , has confirmed higher dimenaional strength ! Wich would suggest he is far past saitama , yet blast said that he would be a around EV level , but we know saitama is far above blast !
@ACertainMan
@ACertainMan Ай бұрын
@@smile1600 1) I have 3D vision, doesn't mean I can grasp the full length of an infinite 2D plane. 2) being interdimensional doesn't mean you can destroy all of the dimension you exist in. Just because I'm a 3D being doesn't mean I can destroy 3D space. 3) That's fair. 4) That's higher dimensional interaction, it's a form of hax. 5) In what context? "Higher dimensional strength" If we are gonna take flower language like this then why don't we scale Android Saga Sick Goku to be 5D bare minimum? His strength was stated to be dimensions apart from the other Z warriors. Same with Shin who scales to Grade 4 Cell Saga Goku, his strength was stated to be dimensions apart from Piccolo who's above Sick SSJ Goku, 7D Shin? By extension 7D Cell Saga Cast? Nobody would approve of that.
@smile1600
@smile1600 Ай бұрын
@@ACertainMan Oh brother , my man is playing around with words ! 1)Ok ,you did this little explanation for vision , but thats what i said . He sensed higher dimenaional attacks, energies and he could see the monster god himself ! So there is no daoubt about that . The men very clearly can sense higher dimensional attacks and energies even when theyr comming from a higher dimension ! So he eather sensed high 4d strength from saitama or 5d . 2. OH BOY! This man is making fan fiction ! NO! Being interdimensional means you are a higher dimensional being that can exist across multiple dimension ! Nothing with being able to destroy all dimensions you occupy , like what . We know god has multiple bodies , but the main body has been seeled and traped ! 3) Of course its fair😂 ! 4) Yeah its a higher dimenaional feat , except that its not hax cus saitama moves tham using strength alone , garou is using hax ! 5) Read the manga for the context, its a hole other thing with multiversal types and multiversal tiering , wich i think the opm could scale to 1-A for many reasons , but seeing how there could not exist 2 of the same beings in one timeline , the opm multiverse allready scales higher than the db multiverse ,( especialy since genos said it is because of the MWI) but i am ganna have to make some research ! 6) Also whats wrong with me saying "higher dimensional strength" its accurate! The same way goku is a 3d being with higher dimensional strength ! Also what does , taking statements out of context have to do with me saying that ! Yet bro could not defeat cell who in the manga said "my full energy could destroy the solar system". Also you have vegeta going all out in blue just to lift 1k tons ! Also db characters can not be higher than 5d bro , have you read the cosmology of your own show ! It has infinit dimensions and superdimensions ( if we bs our way using non confirmed information ) but only 3 are spatial, the rest are abstract like time and spiritual ! Even the aftelife ( gods ralm) is said to be a transcendental ralm, meaning a spiritual ralm , sperate from dimensions ! 4d in db would make you multiversal and 5d outerversal ! I mean thats why goku jumped from 3d strength with ssj3 400× multiplier , to multiversal in strength ( or outerversal ) with ssj god .
@smile1600
@smile1600 Ай бұрын
@@ACertainMan The rationale behind Garou's potential domination of the entire narrative lies within the intricacies of its cosmological framework. One punch man (OPM) operates within the framework of the Many Worlds Interpretation (MWI) of quantum mechanics, as elucidated by Genos . Initially uncertain about the veracity of information from the core, Genos later confirmes that a new entity separates from the original at the inception of the timeline's completion, signifying the split of parallel worlds. This confirmation solidifies the hypothesis, albeit initially proposed as an educated guess, groundet in observation, reasoning, and existing knowledge. Genos's statement, rooted in undeniable events recorded within the core, transcends mere conjecture, qualifying it not as a hypothesis but as an affirmed reality. In MWI, the concept of Hilbert space assumes paramount importance in delineating the manifold branches of reality . Quantum events's various potential outcomes are depicted as orthogonal vectores within Hilbert space, with each vector denoting a distinct branch or world. The evolution of quantum systems, including the branching process, undergoes representation through unitary transformations within Hilbert space. Mathematically, Hilbert space furnishes a formal framework for portraying quantum state superpositions, wherein systems can exist in a confluence of multiple states simultaneosly. This superposition mechanism facilitates the existence of myriad branches within MWI, where each conceivable outcome corresponds to a unique state vector in Hilbert space. Reality's branching mirrors the branching of vectors within Hilbert space, with each branch epitomizing a different potential outcome of quantum events. In conjunction with Hilbert space mathematics, MWI offers a conceptual lens through which to fathom quantum mechanics' implications in terms of branching realities. It posits that the universe encompassess all feasible outcomes of quantum events, each manifesting in its distinct reality branch within the overarching Hilbert space paradigm. Such a framework propels MWI to the echelons of high 1-B classification, delineating a multiverse comprising an infinite-dimensional construct. Consequently, the multiverse scales low 1-A, as it houses an infinite 4D array within its 5D configuration. The additional axis inherent in the multiverse, juxtaposedwith an infinite 4D array, substantiates its superior classification. Moreover, Saitama's transcendence over his verse, denoted by his r>f prowess, implies the humanity within OPM attains 1-A status. Their perception of the manga as 2D underscores their status as low outerversal entities within the narrative's cosmological tapestry.
@borttorbbq2556
@borttorbbq2556 Ай бұрын
Now I do also think that this would be an interesting fight at least until cells like okay i'm done.
@Prime_YT951
@Prime_YT951 Ай бұрын
I thought this video was gonna be about that guy that cloned himself making cell
@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U
@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U Ай бұрын
saitama one shots db verse lol. saitama looked into these debates , one punched the author gaykira lol. even gaykira cant save goku now, cause he's already got one punched lol
@WilliamSutton1987
@WilliamSutton1987 Ай бұрын
Short answer? No Long answer? HELL NO.
@gamervibes6454
@gamervibes6454 Ай бұрын
Correct answer: Yes Nuanced answer: Possibly
@titaniumstar1772
@titaniumstar1772 Ай бұрын
Short answer? Yes Nuanced answer? Yes, but he needs to delete cell to win
@red-rum9303
@red-rum9303 Ай бұрын
Correct answer: no Another answer: HELLL NAHHHH
@portgaspothead1845
@portgaspothead1845 Ай бұрын
Short answer: Nah Long answer: FUCK NAH
@Ptsdgiver
@Ptsdgiver Ай бұрын
Cells a blast victim.
@error-4269
@error-4269 Ай бұрын
What if cell uses that Kaioken? How much easier will the fight get?
@brassbeast8582
@brassbeast8582 Ай бұрын
he still loses
@error-4269
@error-4269 Ай бұрын
@@brassbeast8582 😂
@error-4269
@error-4269 Ай бұрын
@@lolstalgic9602 you're not funny. You can't argue with jokes.
@TaejinTakeover
@TaejinTakeover Ай бұрын
​@@lolstalgic9602it's time to give the tablet back to mommy now
@error-4269
@error-4269 Ай бұрын
@@TaejinTakeover my mother is dead. You prick.😒
@DaichiOkami
@DaichiOkami Ай бұрын
3:51 grade 3 had a multiplier of about 95x but was massively slower and sloopy so it was never used. Grade four was theoretical and never truely explained or used. Only implied to be a Mastery over basu spuer saiyan in which you can use it infinitely without depowering or turning back. With the same multiplier. Maybe higher but likely no more than super saiyan 2 with a multiplier of 100x base without drawbacks. It's likely a grade 4 super saiyan if it had a higher multiplier than base would probably be about 80-90x at most Likely 75.
@ACertainMan
@ACertainMan Ай бұрын
95x? El Manga legendario has it as 10x SSJ Grade 2 which Is 500x minimum..... Grade 4 was stated to the *strongest* Grade so it's above Grade 3 in power. Grade 2 is above Grade 1 which is 50x Grade 4 > Grade 3 = 10x Grade 2 > Grade 2 > Grade 1. Grade 4 is the form Goku used against Cell.
@DaichiOkami
@DaichiOkami Ай бұрын
@@ACertainMan el manga legendario isn't canon an clearly was made in spanish only as a random unofficial made up side info book. It's pretty damn common knowledge That super saiyan has a multiplier of 50. Super saiyan 2 a multiplier of 100 And super saiyan 3 a multiplier of 400. Literally appeared in the end parts of most Manga chapters and al the info notes in the manga back when toriyama still did power levels. You can literally look super saiyan form multipliers and go into images I asure you the one of the first thingd you'll see is the manga page with Japanese text and notes from toriyama stateing the supersaiyan multiplier is 50 Super saiyan 2 has double of the first form And super saiyan 3 has 4 times the multiplier of the first supersaiyan. The grades of the first super saiyan never had explicit power increases or multipliers stated they were just claimed to be stronger that's it.
@JustKanzo
@JustKanzo Ай бұрын
You should do more cross verse matches with other Z villains.
@kenethernandez6246
@kenethernandez6246 Ай бұрын
Saitama's growth seems to be faster than what a single zenkai can provide. I dont see cell winning and Saitama has never been hurt before so his durability is still an unknown factor. I got Saitama in this one.
@kenethernandez6246
@kenethernandez6246 Ай бұрын
@MiddleTrap No
@determination9296
@determination9296 Ай бұрын
Untill you realise how stupidly strong goku gets in namik from like 1-5 days of training? Going from around 8000 to over 100,000 BECAUSE OF ZENKAI like holy shit that power is upsurd.
@kenethernandez6246
@kenethernandez6246 Ай бұрын
@determination9296 Literally nothing compared to Saitama's growth. You're talking days of growth vs Saitama constantly growing by the nanosecond to the point that he was out growing someone who was instantly copying his own strength. Saitama from Tuesday can one shot his self from Monday. That's his casual growth not exponential like his fight with Garou. It's not even close to comparable.
@dantesinferno5420
@dantesinferno5420 Ай бұрын
Anime cell solos manga Cell gets stomped anime cell has better speed and ap scaling plus i need not tell yall that cells arsenal is way more versatile
@JoshuaEFinley
@JoshuaEFinley Ай бұрын
I think Saitama would repeatedly smash Cell nonchalantly until Cell gives up and begs to become his new aprentice. Cell announcing his every move in typical fassion would be his downfall and Saitama would quickly take the fight seriously. Cell has handled the trauma of being exploded and his upper half destroyed, but imagine it happening over and over again with Saitama just being like "Bro, you can stop you know? Why are we even fighting anymore?" The Vegeta and Freeza in Cell would be furious but the Piccolo might have him offering a truce and the Goku might have him make friends and admit that there might just be another perfect, albiet less perfect, being out there.
@TouringWolf42
@TouringWolf42 Ай бұрын
In theory, Cell is leagues above Saitama in their current forms, but it could go either way. If Cell allows Saitama to grow, then he'll lose. But if Cell immediately obliterates Saitama, then Cell would win.
@razor_ramon_
@razor_ramon_ Ай бұрын
Saitama's durability is way beyond his power
@callisto1796
@callisto1796 Ай бұрын
No he wouldn’t cell doesn’t scale no where near sitama he gets one shot
@budgetproductions1178
@budgetproductions1178 Ай бұрын
people arguing about saitama needing to kill cell in one punch forgetting that you would also need to harm saitama first.
@auraemerald8434
@auraemerald8434 Ай бұрын
In my personal opinion… Yes. Cell would almost definitely hold back for long enough for Saitama to adapt. Though, there’s a chance that Cell could get countless zenkais from near death moments. So who grows faster? Saitama, duh. His growth is exponentially for as long as he’s pushed while Cell’s growth vaguely boosted his stength anywhere between two and six times.
@dkgaming2423
@dkgaming2423 Ай бұрын
Cell wins
@auraemerald8434
@auraemerald8434 Ай бұрын
@@dkgaming2423 I can accept that, Cell’s more interesting
@callisto1796
@callisto1796 Ай бұрын
Saitama just one shots lol not that deep Saitama doesn’t need to grow
@gamingwithhusnain906
@gamingwithhusnain906 Ай бұрын
​@@callisto1796bro cell can has regeneration
@callisto1796
@callisto1796 Ай бұрын
@@gamingwithhusnain906 and? If saitama gets so overwhelmingly stronger due to his exponential growth it would not be a fight he would be like a fly that keeps being swatted away
@DaichiOkami
@DaichiOkami Ай бұрын
3:21 If we assumed the base for light speed for goku was the 924 power level. Then with his current estimated power level 24.6 Septillion in mastered ultra instinct in the manga. Goku would be about 26.6 Sextillion times Faster Than light 😅 And that's a lowball because we could easily say his Base 300+ power level already scales to lightspeed. Also something people never bring up When scaling the relativistic moon busting of piccolo is the fact roshi ha already done this in OG dragonball with a much lesser power level of 150. Slightly slower but he still destroyed the moon in seconds with a Kamehameha
@monocleman9082
@monocleman9082 Ай бұрын
now as for the regeneration part, simply one thing i have to say, he dealt with boros.
@mandalorianhunter1
@mandalorianhunter1 Ай бұрын
Honestly I understand why you think Saitama is over hyped and people will think he will beat people above him in power. Though this is very interesting of a concept. Thanks Chuck for pumping out content like you should.
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@lolstalgic9602
@lolstalgic9602 Ай бұрын
The thing is Saitama is a meme character. Similar to Raiden, Omniman, Guts, or even Shaggy, the characters being overpowered in their respective universes to the point where it becomes running joke across the internet, despite have mid-tier stats. However the jokes are more memeable, and like all memes, they spread and are passed down. I once saw fan art of John Wick facing off against Gorefield captioned "All this for a dog, Jon?" It was exquisite
@skiburc2252
@skiburc2252 Ай бұрын
​​@lolstalgic9602 how the hell is omni-man or guts a meme character lmao
@lolstalgic9602
@lolstalgic9602 Ай бұрын
@@skiburc2252 How often has Omniman been compared to Superman in recent years, despite the massive powergap? Or Guts to characters like Kratos, Dante and Doomslayer?
@mandalorianhunter1
@mandalorianhunter1 Ай бұрын
@@lolstalgic9602 You just made me look up Gorefield and I wish I hadn't. Which Raiden are you talking about? Metal Gear or Mortal Kombat? Omni-Man is understandable due to the feats but yeah he isn't beating any of the stronger tiered characters. Guts entire life is devoted to fighting monsters, human and other worldly but I haven't heard who he beats or anything. Shaggy is a actual meme.
@roninkahn4033
@roninkahn4033 Ай бұрын
Also Saitama vs one of the buus?
@some_shitposting_idiot3023
@some_shitposting_idiot3023 Ай бұрын
Shitama loses and it's not even a contest. All the buus should be close if not at universal. Unless buuhan just got an absurdly stupid power boost him screaming the universe to collapse should unironically be something he can do in any form especially since regular super buu can already scream through dimensions
@norddorian5791
@norddorian5791 Ай бұрын
Cell probably loses but not only buu anihilates Saitama his regen would make Saitama go insane
@wittyithink9109
@wittyithink9109 Ай бұрын
Saitama befriends fat Buu, much like Mr. Satan. Saitama has fun with the battles with the other Buus(finally a good fight) but it ultimately ends up non-satisfying. Just another monster.
@yodita1368
@yodita1368 Ай бұрын
​@@wittyithink9109 my man, buu literally oneshoots saitama, specifically kid buu No need for absorption
@Gremlin969
@Gremlin969 Ай бұрын
​@@norddorian5791 buu can't beat Saitama lol
@ndprod.animationenthusiast9376
@ndprod.animationenthusiast9376 Ай бұрын
Oh. Revisiting this topic? Neato.
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@ndprod.animationenthusiast9376
@ndprod.animationenthusiast9376 Ай бұрын
@@Chuckno problem
@JustAFox47
@JustAFox47 Ай бұрын
I was wondering what you think of Gohan vs Invincible? They’re both the sons of mighty alien warriors, whose respective races terrorized the galaxies. They both cherish peace and their loved ones, and can become insanely powerful when angered. I think they are a match up that is very interesting from a thematic standpoint. However, I do think that Gohan as he is now would stomp Invincible even at his strongest. What do you think? Would Invincible be a match for a SSJ2 Teen Gohan during the Cell Games? How about Ultimate Gohan during the Buu Saga? Also, how about Thragg vs Vegeta from the Cell Saga?
@apotheosis1660
@apotheosis1660 Ай бұрын
Saitama CAN time Travel back, he just does not Know about it at all. Genos himself proves and knows this. Hopefully he'll do it again.
@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U
@G_O_J_O_S_A_T_O_R_U Ай бұрын
saitama one shots db verse lol. saitama looked into these debates , one punched the author gaykira lol. even gaykira cant save goku now, cause he's already got one punched lol
@HelenaSan425
@HelenaSan425 Ай бұрын
Saitama and Cell would be relative to each other But unless Saitama goes back in time and destroys cell in Dr gero's lab before he fully awakens
@geraldoedoby6868
@geraldoedoby6868 Ай бұрын
That would not work
@MildsandThatYac
@MildsandThatYac Ай бұрын
If they are going by Dragon Ball rules that won’t do him any good because when he comes back to the present cell will be waiting for him
@2ready4anything
@2ready4anything Ай бұрын
He can’t go back in time to do that, dragon balls timelines don’t work that way
@JaxsonEvans-pw2ff
@JaxsonEvans-pw2ff Ай бұрын
Saitama can't remember that power so he can't use it
@ACertainMan
@ACertainMan Ай бұрын
He would have to know where he is and when he was at that lab.
@moviefreakdavid666
@moviefreakdavid666 Ай бұрын
Damn DBZ Abridged getting a what if now lol
@ginnungagapabyss5639
@ginnungagapabyss5639 Ай бұрын
I see Cell acting like his GT, self, and going for the absorption once he realizes Saitama’s growing like a Saiyan, but he's not losing stamina, and his physical abilities /durability are also increasing. There's also the fact cells copying is basically the same as Buu’s so it's like CFG, but far more potential.
@knightmadara4029
@knightmadara4029 Ай бұрын
cell wins due to speed and fighting skills and power
@YouzerseifYoucef
@YouzerseifYoucef Ай бұрын
The whole highballing to Dbz speed feats is laughable to me, Akira Toriyama himself doesn't think that early dbz goku has a combat speed anywhere near light speed, they can be easily debunked since Dyspo is said to be insanely fast because he can actually reach and go beyond the speed of light in combat, which is deemed impressive by the gods of descrutions, hit, goku... Ultra instinct goku was able to casually catch Dyspo's hit, so at that point of the story, characters can indeed reach and go beyond light speed in combat, perhaps they have insane combat levels already, but saying they move 160 thousands of times faster than light is well beyond dumb
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Lol cope, Akira Toriyama has NEVER said that.
@KevinCorbin-gd9kp
@KevinCorbin-gd9kp Ай бұрын
Now you're trolling right now because literally toriyama in the early dragon Ball Z literally said that characters have the potential to be faster than granted speed that possess that we're faster than the speed of light like for example Master roshes Kamehameha was able to reach the moon in seconds😊 and piccolo's was able to reach in 1.5 seconds faster than Master roshes making it faster than the speed of light since Goku was able to surprise both of them and Akira toriyama and never stated what you just said right now you're creating head Cannon to prove your point and prove that barely even know anything about dragon Ball and just creating fake scenarios because you don't like your character losing to a dragon Ball Z character cope Saitama only star level​@@Chuck
@KevinCorbin-gd9kp
@KevinCorbin-gd9kp Ай бұрын
Know what you're creating right now is headcanon because literally Akira toriyama has never confirmed what you just did right now because if you check the guide books you could tell that each character is fast in the speed of light since each one relatively skill above Master roshi and piccolo's speedy want to destroy the moon and a few seconds so your argument that early Goku is not in the combat speed between suppressing light speed is ridiculous because literally you're creating your own Canon also do you have any internal information or sources to prove your argument or you're just creating a fallacy because you're mad because your favorite character loses to a dragon Ball Z character
@YouzerseifYoucef
@YouzerseifYoucef Ай бұрын
@@KevinCorbin-gd9kp I didn't mean that Akira came out and said something like that, but usually when an author wants to put his his characters in a certain level of power, they would showcase that through comparison, and would be hinted to directly, such as the Picollo beam feat, This feat has been wanked and anti-jerked to exhaustion but you can solidly calculate it. Basically, the background is key. Great Ape Gohan shoots a blast at the ground and it causes a big mushroom cloud from the explosion. Piccolo then proceeds to shoot a blast at the moon in the same scan page and destroys the moon on the next. By the time the moon is destroyed we see the mushroom cloud is still dissipating. So we know the time it took Piccolo to destroy the moon is less than it takes for a mushroom cloud to dissipate. It wasn't Akira's intention to the blast to reach the moon in 3 seconds or 1.5 seconds or whatever you claim it to be, using that feat and comparing it to goku being able to dodge it then making it the basis of speed scaling is just laughable, If yo say Goku has traveling speed faster than light then yes, that is defintely correct, but Combat speed is different, It is the ability to move your limbs, react, attack and defend at a certain speed, now can goku react, attack, defend at the speed of 160 thousands times faster than light? in Early Dbz? no way, not even close, if you claim it to be around the speed of light or a few times faster that's okay, but this many timesfaster than light? that's just insanity, The reason i used Dyspo as an example, is because that's what the author wants, he litteraly puts him as a speedster who can go faster than light, something unique to him, only surpassed by UI goku, gods of destruction perhaps, Jiren, Angels ...ect
@YouzerseifYoucef
@YouzerseifYoucef Ай бұрын
@@Chuck You know how the author thinks through the way he showcases his work, and not necessarily the words coming out of his mouth, and you can't take random panels and calculate the duration an attack takes to reach a destination, because clearly if Akira really put light speed into consideration he wouldn't just shit on the laws of physics that match, if Akira wanted to showcase Picollo's speed or Goku's speed he would compare it directly and convey it through dialogue,And if you read the other reply, you can tell that the feat you used to base off the speed feats of goku and Picollo and the rest has already been anti jerked many times before, and I get pissed off when feats like these are used
@dricky4509
@dricky4509 Ай бұрын
so in conclusion its a never ending battle
@no.12papangkornkaewklad27
@no.12papangkornkaewklad27 Ай бұрын
Both of them are gonna keep getting stronger ig
@SpammytheHedgehog
@SpammytheHedgehog Ай бұрын
As long as Cell doesn't absorb Saitama, Cell will lose.
@marlinmurrell620
@marlinmurrell620 Ай бұрын
Uh, I don't think Perfect Cell can absorb people. Lol
@Fins-Up-74
@Fins-Up-74 Ай бұрын
​@marlinmurrell620 ... u are so incredibly wrong it's funny. Bro...shut up.
@marlinmurrell620
@marlinmurrell620 Ай бұрын
@Fins-Up-74 Then tell me, when does Perfect Cell absorb someone. Read I said PERFECT CELL pls. Cause last I checked, he can't absorb people in his Perfect form.
@The_Watcher_0
@The_Watcher_0 Ай бұрын
​@@marlinmurrell620he can do it in his lesser forms. It's logical to assume to be could in his perfect form. We wanted a fight. Thus is why he never absorbed anyone in his perfect form. Just because he doesn't, does not mean he can't. By that logic, Goku can't destroy a planet because we've never seen him do it. And we've never once seen someone lose a power after a transformation. We've only ever seen people gain powers. Why would it change with Cell? I don't know why your set on the idea Perfect Cell can't use an ability that imperfect Cell can. But it's entirely illogical.
@-Extra_Lives
@-Extra_Lives Ай бұрын
​@@Fins-Up-74 Perfect cell doesn't absorb random enemies in charachter. Otherwise he would've done so to Goku and Vegeta after he grew stronger than them. That's more Buu or android 21
@mrhopadopalus
@mrhopadopalus Ай бұрын
I don’t think it’s fair to ever use the word Universal on Dragonball characters outside of Xeno, Zamasu and the clash of goku and Beerus. All the characters have the strength to destroy a universe but it’s not in an all at once way. They have to move around the universe and destroy piece by piece. They maybe a “universal threat” but they lack the power to destroy a universe all at once. (Excluding the characters I mention above)
@stupidw33b52
@stupidw33b52 Ай бұрын
that's just straight up misinformation. Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, Broly, and most of Super's antagonists could all destroy the universe in one blow
@mrhopadopalus
@mrhopadopalus Ай бұрын
@@stupidw33b52 how would any of them do it?
@kingnaruto4life422
@kingnaruto4life422 Ай бұрын
@@mrhopadopalusclashing fists or an energy beam while not holding back
@notcoldwarcold
@notcoldwarcold Ай бұрын
@@mrhopadopalus Any DBS characters that can comparatively scale to and above SSG are basically automatically Universal+
@mrhopadopalus
@mrhopadopalus Ай бұрын
@@kingnaruto4life422 so they would shoot an energy beam that is linear and at max is the size of a house, and that would destroy the universe that is trillions of times larger than said beam? Edit: as far as clashing goes there have been plenty of clashes post ssg that haven't caused universal reverberations.
@ProTroll69
@ProTroll69 Ай бұрын
These comparisons are always tricky because OPM is wayyyy better at detailing its battles than DBZ. No one in DBZ has ever shrugged off a blow strong enough to launch them from the Earth to the moon in less than 10 seconds. No one in DBZ is straight up LEAPING back to Earth with zero damage, either and being 100% ready to fight. Saitama doesn’t even use ki. He vaporizes mountains with the raw force of his weakest punches. It kind of boils down to whether or not Saitama is super strong or straight up indestructible.
@Remington934
@Remington934 18 күн бұрын
I've always wondered, is Saitama actually that strong or is his universe that weak a single punch can hurt most op villians?
@Tenshibuu
@Tenshibuu Ай бұрын
Saitama Can't beat Cell at *Ballin* Though!! 🔥🔥🔥🏀🏀🗣🗣🗣🗣
@afro_souledits2382
@afro_souledits2382 Ай бұрын
I just love how we still compare DBZ characters with modern day juggernauts, but cell just like Frieza can destroy the universe with planets that have life on it over time, thats what they meant but saitama deadass is bull arc buu level
@OmniDan26
@OmniDan26 Ай бұрын
golden and black frieza can destroy the universe with a flick. Stop the cap.
@Ahalkaabi
@Ahalkaabi Ай бұрын
@@OmniDan26he was talking about dbz frieza my guy
@ezradanger
@ezradanger Ай бұрын
Seems about right
@akasakasad6271
@akasakasad6271 Ай бұрын
i have a question, cell is solar system level yes, but isn’t that only when he condenses his energy in a full power blast, would that apply to strikes
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Yes, his physical strikes would scale.
@reptilian_geneticist
@reptilian_geneticist Ай бұрын
Freeza using 10x the power he used to destroy Namek means absolutely nothing... He did that while highly suppressed and there's no way to determine how much power he actually used... plus we know that Freeza could have done the same exact thing to Namek even in his weakest form...
@kingkevin0127
@kingkevin0127 Ай бұрын
you misunderstand what chuck was trying to say with that feat, it had nothing to do with the planet itself, but how large/bright the explosion was that came after, saying it was able to shine throughout a galaxy. Chuck was doing this in order to help justify highballing cell above solar system level.
@reptilian_geneticist
@reptilian_geneticist Ай бұрын
@@kingkevin0127 he's trying to use that statement to say that mecha Freeza was 10x more powerful than full power Freeza on Namek, which is not the case... the statement isn't scalable
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Frieza would be able to destroy Namek in inferior forms, yes, but the explosion wouldn't have been as significant. I said in the video he was holding back too...
@reptilian_geneticist
@reptilian_geneticist Ай бұрын
@@Chuck that's just artistic expression, there's no way to say for sure that it would look any different whether he blew it up in first or final form... and it was a weak time delayed explosion that destroyed the core of the planet which caused catastrophic collapse of the planet
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Yet the destruction of planet Vegeta looks outright inferior to the Namek explosion in several instances.
@michaelgarcia5680
@michaelgarcia5680 Ай бұрын
The only way I see Saitama winning is if Cell gives him time to adapt but other than that Cell is just gonna one punch him.
@Wally_8
@Wally_8 Ай бұрын
Actually read one punch man
@callisto1796
@callisto1796 Ай бұрын
No bro saitama literally just one shots no need to grow
@Brosie_Osie
@Brosie_Osie 23 күн бұрын
Saitama one taps lmao. Solos the verse
@Blackpill149
@Blackpill149 5 күн бұрын
Saitama solos DBZ lol stop wanking
@thesilverbeast6092
@thesilverbeast6092 Ай бұрын
Considering how quick Broly rose in power level, I think Saitama is a more calm slim version of broly.
@ricoboydragon1136
@ricoboydragon1136 Ай бұрын
Can you do Saitama vs Majin Buu? (Any version)
@ACertainMan
@ACertainMan Ай бұрын
Saitama doesn't win against the weakest buu
@kamamara2567
@kamamara2567 Ай бұрын
Saitama slams cells 😢
@perminator218
@perminator218 Ай бұрын
True
@some_shitposting_idiot3023
@some_shitposting_idiot3023 Ай бұрын
Shitama would die to a gentle gust of wind
@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther-
@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther- Ай бұрын
​@@perminator218 Cry about it .
@perminator218
@perminator218 Ай бұрын
@Vrabsher_-Supreme_Perhinther- I was just stating my opinion dude,no need to get angry
@theanticap4661
@theanticap4661 Ай бұрын
@@perminator218w, i would say cell beat saitama
@wettoast7268
@wettoast7268 Ай бұрын
According to manga he should slap Cell silly.
@masteropm381
@masteropm381 Ай бұрын
Same as Anime
@Marisa_arts
@Marisa_arts Ай бұрын
It's stated in the show and guides that the universe is infinite and infinitely expanding, so King Kai was able to keep track of an infinite FTL ship but unable to keep track of Goku and Freeza during their fight. Which means they are 2x faster than Infinite Speed, minimum. Not 150,000 FTL. Which wouldn't be able to cross the half universe in 6 days. It would take nearly 1 million years to do that if you low ball and use our observable universe (roughly 100 billion light years). Low ball speed would be around 100 billion FTL for the ship, 200 billion FTL to the Space Pods and 400 billion FTL for Goku v Freeza. Cell games, you can low-ball and make them 2-8 times stronger as we don't really know the increases. But at the end they are faster than Infinite Speed by several fold when going by the guides, show statements and manga.
@DaniApfel
@DaniApfel Ай бұрын
2:58 I heavily disagree about the King Kai part. If a plane is flying at supersonic speeds a mile above your head, you can track its movement. If a hummingbird hovers 3 feet in front of your face, you cannot keep track of its wings. Are its wings now going multiple mach speeds faster than the jet you saw earlier because YOU can't see its wings?❤
@mouadfit5553
@mouadfit5553 Ай бұрын
cell wins zero difff
@neetaiims7427
@neetaiims7427 Ай бұрын
Cell>saitama
@al-jd6pu
@al-jd6pu Ай бұрын
Nice vid
@rodthedigger2902
@rodthedigger2902 Ай бұрын
Great video.
@Chuck
@Chuck Ай бұрын
Thank you!
@lowdistortion
@lowdistortion Ай бұрын
Yes Saitama has limitless potential, and one attack from him blew away entire galaxies
@nepo9950
@nepo9950 Ай бұрын
whats the difference between current and the saitama that fought garou
@Mannyhdz0052
@Mannyhdz0052 Ай бұрын
They are both the same saitama 😂 just one was growing infinitely in strength vs an opponent who can copy anyone with no limits current saitama would be able absolutely no different.
@ademmer6245
@ademmer6245 Ай бұрын
Dawg there is no current or old, Saitama is Saitama
@brettz5288
@brettz5288 Ай бұрын
It was a combined feat and all they did was destroy a cluster of stars 💀
@williandomingosbb9891
@williandomingosbb9891 Ай бұрын
Multi solar system*
@missyummy1040
@missyummy1040 Ай бұрын
I always wondered how Saitama would do if he lived in the world of DB, not power scaling wise, but a sort of what if situation
@eksjhdgshjkl
@eksjhdgshjkl Ай бұрын
He would be insanely powerful and a great ally to the Z fighters
@ACertainMan
@ACertainMan Ай бұрын
The Gamma Ray Burst is a solid Multi-Solar system feat. Cell's destruction of the Nebula calcs at multi-Solar to Galaxy level Garou should lose this based on Speed.
@Ihavenoidealo
@Ihavenoidealo Ай бұрын
why does dragon ball fights happen on earth and not in space?
@phantom6453
@phantom6453 Ай бұрын
Chuck solos both after I saw what he did to Tatsumaki
@SlickSkuddy
@SlickSkuddy Ай бұрын
Idk if it’s been done before, but I wanted to ask how far do you think sentry would get in the dragon ball universe?
@Senshitengu
@Senshitengu Ай бұрын
If u think about it cosmic garou with his copying ability he would be almost invincible in dragon ball verse.
@Grandpa_Reezy
@Grandpa_Reezy Ай бұрын
But Saiyan Enigma’s perfect cell theme 🔥
@origins183
@origins183 Ай бұрын
I’d say it really comes down to the skill. He was putting the hands on goku a bit and saitama has no marital art prowess at all.
@onepain2217
@onepain2217 Ай бұрын
We all know with how powerful god is who would kill cell in an instant shows that saitama will eventually folder cell once manga realse more pages cuz god will be saitama’s final opp and to be soo he will have to outscale cell obviously so it’s just matter of time but for now it seems to be roughly a draw till saitama outscale him
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