Could you pass an Instrument Checkride? What your instructor REALLY thinks

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Could you pass an Instrument Checkride? What your instructor REALLY thinks

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On a recent instrument training flight I realized Christophe was ready for a check ride. I mean, beyond the skills to perform the tasks which he has had down for a while, what separates success from failure? In this video, I will bring you into my head a bit while we look at what he's doing well and when it starts to fall apart. Fly Your Best!
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@ShauryeChakravarty 4 жыл бұрын

So true about the thing you said about CFIIs. As I think to myself being task saturated in an instrument approach, I realise that I use the last 5% of my brains to make the radio calls. However, if I have an instructor, or god forbid, an examiner, sitting next to me, that 5% would go up in smoke. CFIIs gotta remember when task saturating their student that they too are a task. Being instructed while flying a plane is a task.

@dharmeshtarapore 5 жыл бұрын

I love how educational these videos are, even for instrument rated pilots!

@fekete6368 5 жыл бұрын

Below minimums and a screen out - that fits in the sphincter clincher category for sure! Understandable why some things were missed - enjoyed the video.

@thepatriotpilot1849 5 жыл бұрын

I've just started instrument training. Love how helpful your videos are!

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks! Good timing 👍

@gix40 4 жыл бұрын

Well done Christophe task saturation is real. Glad you are able to practice this with a brilliant instructor Jason. Awesome you'll do well on your checkride.

@fabiangeorges5667 3 жыл бұрын

Learning ALOT! So thank you for sticking to what you are very good at - teaching. Never to early to get the kid started.. Good Dad you are. Face forward.

@TheFinerPoints 3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for watching!

@abbieamavi 3 жыл бұрын

*Ive got my IR Checkride in one week, your videos have helped me so much! Thank you.* ☺️

@TheFinerPoints 3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad! Good luck! Please consider supporting TFP on Patreon patreon.com/learntfp

@abbieamavi 4 жыл бұрын

*honestly, I always feel so calm when I fly without my CFII* 😂😂

@gabrielvazquez1691 4 жыл бұрын

I have my Instrument Checkride next week. I'm reviewing all your IFR videos to get ready.

@kentd4762 Жыл бұрын

Great video and lessons. Thank you, Christophe, for allowing us to fly along. I hope you have a great career in flying!

@REBooner30 5 жыл бұрын

Awesome as usual, Jason. 3 weeks to the day until my checkride and I'm feeling like I'm in pretty good shape but I'll probably never feel entirely ready.

@Aleksandar6ix 5 жыл бұрын

Good luck! I never feel truly read either, and then it just happens to a higher level than I care to admit.

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

Good luck Rod! At some point you just have to go for it!

@chrisbowpiloto 5 жыл бұрын

Good work Christophe, good luck on the checkride!

@desireercortez 3 жыл бұрын

I have my IFR checkride next week and this video was helpful! 😃thank you

@TheProcustoms 5 жыл бұрын

strange this came up the very day my son passed his IFR check ride. I had to watch and see what happens because he said it was the most intense flying he has done. 2hr ground, 3.5hr flying non-stop testing. He is a 300hr pilot and we flew his PA22/20 from california to Oshkosh so not really a rookie, still said it was intense WOW.

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

Yes, it's a big one. That sounds about right -- it's usually an all day affair

@MichaelLloyd 5 жыл бұрын

What a great video. I saw the Patreon version but this is really good info.

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

Michael Lloyd thanks Michael! It took some serious editing to distill what I think is the main take away here, I’m glad you enjoyed it 👍🙌

@bernardanderson7569 5 жыл бұрын

Great to ride along with you anytime when I get my online study done soon so you can give me my IFR Training

@antoniobranch5843 5 жыл бұрын

Single pilot instrument flying(no auto- pilot) is nerve wrecking.

@lucky_one2 5 жыл бұрын

Also working on my instrument training...I’ve used your recommendations since starting ppl to standardize my briefs and stay ahead of the plane. Sometimes I appear in control and ahead of the plane but inside I’m a mess...just need to have good habits and anticipate the next action required...and maybe the next and the next 😉

@zibinhe5299 5 жыл бұрын

Passed the checkride one day ahead of this video, Hahahahaha

@esalenchik 5 жыл бұрын

Zibin HE Congratulations🎉✈️

@anonymxs._7570 5 жыл бұрын

"Let's have a screen failure" Lol 😂

@Ichibuns 3 жыл бұрын

I have a screen failure during every single flight at my school. It's really odd lol

@cuteboy1348 3 жыл бұрын

Please publish that checklist here...I really like the idea of small handy checklist

@Mahgar 4 жыл бұрын

Such a great instructor!

@frankcloskey7789 3 жыл бұрын

The Student doing IFR was Excellent with Instructor .8/24/2021

@JoseRivera-lt2cc 5 жыл бұрын

Good stuff always.

@holyteejful 3 жыл бұрын

Ken Cobb- an awesome DPE out of NorCal , he will fail your instruments on approach and try to oversaturate you by talking and trying to distract you; as I’m sure many DPEs will do on instrument checkrides.... as a pilot your PRIORITY is AVIATE and NAVIGATE, then communicate . If things are becoming saturated , focus your process on flying and navigating to safety . AND MEMORIZE the crap out of AVEF and MEA in case of a communication failure , especially in IMC - you won’t have time to think about remembering what AVEF and MEA means if u forget , so u better just know it for every stage of flight!

@RK-de5wg 3 жыл бұрын

Awesome video! Nice job!

@Marauder92V 4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. Single pilot IFR is a workout. I noticed your sunglasses are prescription. What brand are they? They look like Sergenti’s but I didn’t think they did prescription.

@ktd9 4 жыл бұрын

I love your highly insightful and informative videos...I watch them all the time...but please what is the openings song on this video? Is it Santana?🥰✈️🛩

@ArcticMayhem 5 жыл бұрын

Where do you get those nice compact checklists from? I think I would use one more often if it wasn't a clunky spiral bound 5 page book in the seat back pocket.

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

The ones in the video are made by the San Carlos Flight Center

@cuteboy1348 3 жыл бұрын

@@TheFinerPoints Thank you

@cuteboy1348 3 жыл бұрын

Is it possible to keep a PDF copy of that handy tall checklist here ? Very useful for all the subscribers here.

@DavidWalkerMeikle 5 жыл бұрын

Hi, I am doing IFR flight instruction in Chile, would it be posible to have a copy of your IFR checklist, I have one, but find it rather long and very redundant. Thank you, Cheers

@TgardnerH 5 жыл бұрын

@Joe H WTF? Do you have some particular reason, or just the fact that he doesn't love the checklist he has, and would like to see an expert's?

@davidb2045 5 жыл бұрын

Oh KZfaq...

@alessio272 5 жыл бұрын

David Walker my first instructor was like Joe H. I immediately requested to be paired with someone else. At least you only get to see a dumb comment from an internet troll on KZfaq.

@DavidWalkerMeikle 5 жыл бұрын

Joe H sounds like someone needs to take their happy pills! I have multiple checklists and they are all ok, but a bit long. True, I can make my own, but I was more interested in seeing his format since I would still have to translate it all into spanish and rewrite if need be...so its not really a question of laziness. Have a nice day.

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

Hi David, I don't have an "IFR" checklist per se, I use a checklist provided in the aircraft by the San Carlos Flight Center. I get a lot of interest there though and am working on one of my own, stay tuned.

@Rv12_pilot 5 жыл бұрын

A45s Saturday’s 9-12 drop by and say hi would love to meet u

@Skiesaremine 3 жыл бұрын

I just failed my instrument oral but got retrained. Shouldn't be a big deal, just lead myself to a pass next time.

@holyteejful 4 жыл бұрын

Hey Jason, saw in a cpl of vids your students using Jepessen charts. Do u prefer Jepessen over FAA charts? Why or why not? Thanks

@deanfowlkes 4 жыл бұрын

holyteejful - Jepessen charts are chock full of info in an intuitive, comprehensive way that makes sense. The only thing it’s missing is a detailed taxi diagram with runway length. Have your full page airport taxi diagram ready.

@dominickatx478 5 жыл бұрын

Ahhh the big red button is cheating! On my instrument ride, I had to shoot the approach w my backups 😳

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

Haha kinda. Yes that’s a thing - it simulates AHRS failure. Our last approach this day I did not allow him to use the “red button” - that video is available on Patreon FYI

@rickenzuela 4 жыл бұрын

The Finer Points legitimate question. How would you fly an approach with the backup instruments only in a G1000 setup like that? I could be wrong, but I didn’t see backup navigation equipment. PAR?

@russellkeith1284 5 жыл бұрын

I know that this was for "training" but why would you do an approach to minimums with your primary display inop. Part of flight training and the check ride evaluation is instilling good decision making. With a primary instrument failure a better decision would to divert to one of the alternate airports in your IFR flight plan that has better weather or ask ATC who in the area is VFR and divert to better weather. Then you can ask the question as to why the primary went dark. Was it a short circuit that will eventually pull down the entire electrical system?

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

I can see that point if this were a real failure, but it was training. In training sometimes you "swing with two bats" -- that is, make it harder that it will probably ever be. In "real life" I would urge anybody to proceed VFR to the closest airport if able. There was nothing unsafe about what we were doing (tops were about 1,300 bases about 400' and we had plenty of instrumentation.

@kentd4762 Жыл бұрын

If you train for the absolute worst, then that'll help in real life. I'd bet that Jason discussed with Christophe the decision making process about alternates, trouble-shooting, etc.

@lancomedic 5 жыл бұрын

Where do you guys get those thin checklists that I see you using in your videos? I like the way you can hold them at eye level and not block your view.

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

The ones you see in the video are made by the San Carlos Flight Center

@lancomedic 5 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the reply and info.

@Proloverful 4 жыл бұрын

Hi Jason, What aircraft is this? 182RG

@MrZrryan2 5 жыл бұрын

I have always STRONGLY disagreed with treating simulated emergencies like they are not real emergencies. On my checkride, when we go partial panel, the first thing I do is inform ATC that "as a training exercise, I have lost primary flight instruments and I am now hand flying with zero automation". Why? I treat it as an emergency.... in real life, it would absolutely be an emergency and I don't want no crossing restrictions or other unnecessary crap from ATC when dealing with an emergency. Part of being a decent pilot is being in-charge... and that includes the examiner. If he don't like it, he can GTFO and walk home.

@TheFinerPoints 5 жыл бұрын

I like that. Letting ATC know what the situation is (even in training) is a great idea. Using reversionary mode in the G1000 is still light years beyond what you'd have available in a standard panel airplane ... and this was very soft IFR in that the tops were 1,300 and 10 miles inland the skies were clear, but I like your thinking and the tip, thx