Counter Fast Castle | Think Like A Pro

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Valdemar

Valdemar

Күн бұрын

This video runs you through the adaptive decision-making, where delaying your opponent, playing age III and going for relics decide the game.
Chinese Guide: • FULL CHINESE GUIDE | B...
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Timestamps:
Intro: 00:00
Opener: 01:21
Scouting Your Opponent's Strategy: 02:39
How To Counter A "Fast Castle": 04:16
Finishing The Game: 12:52
Coaching:
I play at the top 24 (CTA) / Top 10 (Ladder) level worldwide. I do private guidance and coaching of which you can contact me through discord: Valdemar1902
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@mirketnvm
@mirketnvm 6 ай бұрын
I always thought it comes down to executing your own build order properly but now I'm not surprised that it obviously is about scouting and making the right decisions accordingly. This series is awesome! The clarity is top notch as always.
@henrifortier8621
@henrifortier8621 6 ай бұрын
Yep thats the fun part about aoe4 vs lots of other rts its more about strategy than execution and yes scouting is busted when done right
@Awesomeman1987
@Awesomeman1987 6 ай бұрын
I think this was a good video for my development as a gamer. I actually changed from doing a song 2tc this morning vs hre to rushing castle and secured all 5 relics. The opponent surrendered at 8:50 after I killed his prelate carrying the last relic home and yoinked it back. Prior to this I would have just thought “good he’s going fc I will have no pressure going 2tc”.
@Valdemar1902
@Valdemar1902 6 ай бұрын
Well done. It is important to note that giving up all relics to HRE gives them enough time to go Swabia (+3tc equivalent) and then your 2nd TC is instantly matched + insane relic gold income :)
@Awesomeman1987
@Awesomeman1987 6 ай бұрын
@@Valdemar1902 that is a great way to think about it and really makes me realize I’m not always “behind” if I decide not to go for a second tc.
@Khai_0411
@Khai_0411 4 ай бұрын
true dude I also main Chinese and I feel like Chinese 1TC going Castle is the most flexible strategy especially at my level skill, around Diamond or Platinum. The problem of 2TC is that you get killed by those who could really rush castle, such as HRE and if you are dragged into the constant fight in fedual you kind of die due to farm transition later on. Also Chinese 1 TC going castle is sometimes more unfamilliar to your opponents so you gain some advantage maybe?
@robertcarr5953
@robertcarr5953 6 ай бұрын
Not many other elite players doing this kind of video. Brilliant pal thank you
@Voltarez
@Voltarez 5 ай бұрын
These kind of videos breaking down the pros/cons of different response options and decision making are really great. So much more fun and useful then just learning the latest strong builds long term.
@C.BronsoNN
@C.BronsoNN 2 ай бұрын
I just wanted you to know that the guides you are putting up are pure gold, and I`m not exaggerating. Please continue doing so !!
@grizzlymantr7962
@grizzlymantr7962 6 ай бұрын
great video, loved it, explaining very clearly, learning a lot, thank you, please make more like this content
@Rawsheeve133
@Rawsheeve133 6 ай бұрын
Dude I love this content, I hope it's a new series!!
@DM-ox4jq
@DM-ox4jq 6 ай бұрын
Great video. Well explained.
@nathanw.1483
@nathanw.1483 6 ай бұрын
I wish u the very best pour this new year bro Thx for your videos Socrate
@chefboyardee2670
@chefboyardee2670 6 ай бұрын
Great series
@Khai_0411
@Khai_0411 4 ай бұрын
thank you Sir for your effort, learnt a lot. Some horseman to deny the first 1-2 relics while you are a little bit behind of aging up is very useful
@user-ut8br8wb3j
@user-ut8br8wb3j 2 ай бұрын
You rock!
@Fenris8800
@Fenris8800 6 ай бұрын
You've the most calm endcart on YT :D
@kemalbey271
@kemalbey271 6 ай бұрын
Thanks maldemald
@thomasbayer1843
@thomasbayer1843 6 ай бұрын
See you next year Valdemar.
@bhdkid1
@bhdkid1 2 ай бұрын
Ty
@johnnypenso9574
@johnnypenso9574 6 ай бұрын
Scouting is the weakest part of my game and something I really have to work on. Thanks Valdemar!
@Valdemar1902
@Valdemar1902 6 ай бұрын
I recommend taking a look at my scouting guide, if you would like to know more about scouting! Vid: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/kMWBi7iUnpyVf30.html
@sari-eljarrah
@sari-eljarrah 6 ай бұрын
Excellent video as always Valdemar 😎💫 I wonder how you make the map not visible in caster mode ?? And how do you switch view to the other player's perspective?
@UltrasRapid1992
@UltrasRapid1992 6 ай бұрын
Switch = shift+alt+1 (or 2) Toggle Fow = Ctrl+f
@sari-eljarrah
@sari-eljarrah 6 ай бұрын
@@UltrasRapid1992 Thank you 😃👍🏻
@danthology777
@danthology777 29 күн бұрын
In your most recent video you instead use feudal pressure to counter fast castle. How do you decide which approach to take? It seems to me that if the counter to FC is your own FC, your opponent would have an advantage bc their build is more optimized. Should you only go FC if you have villager bonus like Song Chinese or Abbasid? And Feudal if you have early nights like French or Rus? Love your videos! Been steadily climbing from silver to platinum 2 and it’s all thanks to your how to think series.
@DearV
@DearV 6 ай бұрын
please make a video about how to punish 3tc play in teamgames
@SexyRudolf
@SexyRudolf 6 ай бұрын
Hey Valdemar! I loved the vid and the reactionness of the strategy. I just have one question: Would you have done the same while playing as Rus or French for example? Most of the time i go 2TC into Feudal agression with Rus, would you advise going for Fast Castle with them aswell in this kind of matchup?
@Valdemar1902
@Valdemar1902 6 ай бұрын
The most important takeaway from this series should be, that no matter what civ you play, there are fundamental RTS rules that apply. I briefly cover it here but go in-depth with it in my coaching sessions
@SexyRudolf
@SexyRudolf 5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!!@@Valdemar1902
@Voltarez
@Voltarez 5 ай бұрын
If your opponent had been more successful/careful in his relic gathering and fights would you go 2TC and play defensively with palisades/towers and crossbows + archers + pikes while attempting raiding?
@terence7009
@terence7009 6 ай бұрын
These are great. at some point would you consider a video on dealing with mass zhugenu rush? it was bad enough with china, but with ZXL not even needing to get song it has been a huge problem, but I'm sure its answerable. I mostly play delhi but I suppose it'd be good info for anyone. Thanks for all the info you've provided!
@Valdemar1902
@Valdemar1902 6 ай бұрын
Following the latest Delhi Guide on my channel is the best thing you can do - basically, never stop making units (put scholars inside feudal production (1 archery range and 1 stable with scholar)) and then do as much damage as possible and outmicro. Zhu Xi Legacy is very overtuned right now, so do not feel bad if you can't defeat them.
@terence7009
@terence7009 6 ай бұрын
@@Valdemar1902 well, haven't played against the zhugenu rush yet since posting, but the all in on wood strat from your build order did manage to win me a game against a FC ayyubid that dropped keeps and walls all over the map. I'm really not sure how I did manage to win it and probably have to watch the replay but hey, thanks!
@johnkey9798
@johnkey9798 6 ай бұрын
So as japanese i should always go 2nd tc into (a bit delayed) castle vs booming civs? Then the eco would not be an issue at all. It is just important to switch to production vs aggression, so reactive gameplay and im done... Right?
@Valdemar1902
@Valdemar1902 6 ай бұрын
I really enjoy doing Fast Castle with Japanese into _Mounted Samurai_ into/or _mass Samurai and Siege_ . It is also important to not view different civs as civs that "does one thing well" and then assume they will do that, as civ bonuses do not decide the playstyle. :) Whether you play reactive or active is entirely dependent on the amount of initiative you take. (e.g. the horsemen in feudal in the video :)
@JamesJohnson-kl1eu
@JamesJohnson-kl1eu 6 ай бұрын
how do you feel about a 1 tc feudal all in against a fast castle? I generally play 2v2 japan and it's been seeming to work pretty good for me.
@Valdemar1902
@Valdemar1902 5 ай бұрын
If you can starve a FC player from food, that is great for stopping their production :)
@anibaltavora
@anibaltavora 5 ай бұрын
I find extremly hard to deal with ayyubid playing ootd, can u please give me any tip against that fc?
@piggy8435
@piggy8435 6 ай бұрын
I'm curious what civ you see as the most flexible (i.e., can go any strategy, feudal rush, fast castle, 2tc, late game imperial, etc.)?
@Valdemar1902
@Valdemar1902 6 ай бұрын
All civs can be flexible, but all have different strengths.
@muratparlak7601
@muratparlak7601 6 ай бұрын
Teşekkürler.
@Valdemar1902
@Valdemar1902 5 ай бұрын
Thank you very much!
@muratparlak7601
@muratparlak7601 5 ай бұрын
Thank you! I learned a lot from you :)@@Valdemar1902
@chatcool4583
@chatcool4583 6 ай бұрын
Is there another way to counter FC next to just mirroring the strategy of your opponent? Maybe harassing gold villagers and preventing age up? Might be difficult with a tower on gold but maybe with mass zhu get nu and rams would be possible.
@Valdemar1902
@Valdemar1902 6 ай бұрын
Harassing gold vills is naturally a job for your early horsemen if they do not have a tower or spearmen :) If you go all in feudal, that is also something that can work, but better players can counter it!
@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana
@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana 6 ай бұрын
He wasn't perfectly mirroring the opponent. His fast castle was slightly slower than his opponent's. This is important as it means his build order was more efficient, with more production buildings, disruption to the enemy, development with infrastructure and techs, and resources gathered (because he did not move from resource to resource to get just enough for Castle 🏰🏯 Age). Honestly, I feel like the meta might end up with Early Castle Age only being good for countering your opponent's Earlier Castle Age. As the player who ages up last is at an advantage most of the time, as they can hold the enemy's attacks and has a more efficient build for the late game. Thus, resulting in meta players going for long Feudal instead, as they both try and be the last to age up, until they run out of other major things spend their resources on.
@Adribird
@Adribird 5 ай бұрын
I understand that semi-fc (with a few units in aggression) seems to be the only way (with the vast majority of civs) to beat a fc. If so, there would be a problem there.
@Valdemar1902
@Valdemar1902 5 ай бұрын
What is the problem?
@Adribird
@Adribird 5 ай бұрын
@@Valdemar1902 That the metagame has a clear tendency to FC in most situations and there is no effective counterplay in Feudal against a FC, according to what you claim.
@Valdemar1902
@Valdemar1902 5 ай бұрын
There are effective counterplays in feudal dependent on the civ you're playing. This video explains what to do, should your civ have no better alternative, and this is the counterplay.
@Adribird
@Adribird 5 ай бұрын
@@Valdemar1902 ok, ty.
@hevarnash5036
@hevarnash5036 6 ай бұрын
Valdemer could you make a video on how to deal with english long bows bcz they incredibly annoying when you try to counter with horses the have the spike that they lay in front of them and suddenly they are pushing with 2 rams 15 longbows if you don't have man at arm or knights you got f@#ked up suddenly, much appreciate your answer ?
@Valdemar1902
@Valdemar1902 6 ай бұрын
Check out my “Counter english” guide
@wenholee5109
@wenholee5109 6 ай бұрын
why the Japanese used horse? not MAA? If he made MMA, how to deal with it in age fedu?
@true5844
@true5844 6 ай бұрын
also please make vid how to vs Jeanne please i keep losing
@evalmerbruno7500
@evalmerbruno7500 5 күн бұрын
Oh brow thanks for all videos, unfortunately aoe is little content, you and others save the players of aoe kkkkk
@true5844
@true5844 6 ай бұрын
I cant counter ayuubid fast castle and shalolin monk its uncounterable
@baewuf
@baewuf 29 күн бұрын
How to counter fast castle -> goes fast castle, play a civ that doesn't easily get into castle like china
@Valdemar1902
@Valdemar1902 28 күн бұрын
That’s the point. All civs can FC, even the ones that don’t get civ bonuses from specifically doing FC - they still get all the other stuff!
@ChristofferFlensburg
@ChristofferFlensburg 6 ай бұрын
This isn't clear for me. You counter FC with your own FC? How does that make sense? If you both FC, how come you have map control and get relics? Can't you say that your opponent's FC is countering your FC just as much as the other way around? Seems like it's just two ppl going FC into each other, and you win because you're the better player, but it's really not clear to me why you win here, or how this is about countering FC... :/ Should I just always FC because the only counter to it is a mirror FC?
@Valdemar1902
@Valdemar1902 6 ай бұрын
I talk about how harass with horsemen is the key here when both players FC. Scouting and going for the right counter units make a decisive difference. And yes, the better player wins, but I would not be winning if I went to Castle naked or any other feudal strat.
@blomstrut
@blomstrut 6 ай бұрын
Had the exact same thought haha!
@Dodo-td1pg
@Dodo-td1pg 6 ай бұрын
Why did Chinese go FC himself, instead of 2TC? Feel like you are following the same strategy as opponent, when opponent is better at that strategy.
@Gokudo01
@Gokudo01 6 ай бұрын
I think he explained that it's to steal the relic with the map control that he will be able to get before the castle age.
@Valdemar1902
@Valdemar1902 6 ай бұрын
The whole point of the horsemen is to prevent relic grab and take them myself, harass and disperse deer. The followup with barracks is due to opponent stable.
@jatin1995
@jatin1995 6 ай бұрын
Great series
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