What Niantic Still Doesn't Get About Pokémon GO...
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22 күн бұрынAs a follow up to the Mega Rayquaza Elite Raid Day mess, I wanted to talk about the long standing issue with Pokémon GO that Niantic has not addressed for the past several years. When it comes down to it, Niantic refuses to help players who play in rural areas, and they design their game with specific people in mind. Let's talk about this!
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@DeadEyeFoxx 21 күн бұрын
As I've said previously, this has never been about exploration. It has only ever been about gathering location data. Niantic does not care about rural players, and they never will because that data is virtually worthless to them when it comes to selling that information to other companies.
@Want300 20 күн бұрын
This. They make more money selling our location data compared to our in game spending.
@DeadEyeFoxx 20 күн бұрын
@@Want300100%. And it's about time everybody realised that.
@FlameSoulis 19 күн бұрын
Sadly I have to agree... which is funny because of all their fluff advertisements going on with "Look at all these fields, these forests, this back alleyways..." As someone who lives next to a state forest... there are no stops here. Fields are empty (unless you count the endless cows or crops growing in them), as are many vistas. And the less I talk about alleyways in the various towns, the better. But, of course, those are the only things that make their 'active and outgoing' promises feel more genuine... as false as they all are...
@Want300 19 күн бұрын
@@FlameSoulis Agreed. I also do not know how they decide where pokemon spawn. At my house, there is 1 spawn point, so even during a community day, I might see 6 spawns throughout the 3 hours. My freinds house, 7 spawns. Nothing special about his house, similar street to mine, similar house placement in the street as mine, no Pokestops near by... My home play consists of PVP and remote raids, one lags but is still fun, and the other is expensive
@Lord_D3mi 21 күн бұрын
Remote raids offered so much more balance. It's hard to enjoy events or a lot of other features like routes if you're constantly forced to drive around raiding for a mon that will leave in 6 days.
@jaym7059 21 күн бұрын
I can only speak from a COMPETITIVE (GBL) point of view. As I have hit Legend 16x and am pushing 17x currently. The remote raid limit is bad in that it encourages those in competitive to go out there and obtain *ONE* XL mon and never to be bothered raiding that mon again. There is no point. The cost of *ONE* ML mon if raiding in person and assuming you catch 100% of the Legendaries needed is $50 per. (Which is honestly kind of nuts - aside) Cost of an actual XL for Open Master League (Legendary) is probably closer to 75-100$ as not everyone always can make it to in person. My point being that their actions discourge repeat business. I currently have 10 Legendaries maxed for OML, with another 10-12 which can be maxed if I so desire it. I finished Ho-Oh last year......... Where's the incentive to go out there and grind out Ho-Oh? There's honestly none. Rare XLs? Pass - not consistent enough in terms of rewards. Best to go HAM on GBL weekend saving your Green Passes for the guarranteed rewards from GBL. You can get like 20-30 XLs per weekend then. The only reason for me to do it is to use up my daily yellow pass and call it a day. Thus Niantic has created a system amongst the
@mullnmerk5014 21 күн бұрын
I’m starting to remember why I stopped playing for four years because niantic is niantic
@CreateYourHeaven 21 күн бұрын
I did no raids, because there were no raids in the remote area which I was in. Since playing Pogo since 2016 you would think that a nice Pokemon like mega Rayquaza would be a nice reward for the time and effort which I have invested in the game. Nope. Niantic has no loyalty to the players. They're just a cash cow and a data collection company working together with Google. Thanks for the video, Jinsula 💫
@HangrySnorlax_ 21 күн бұрын
It's not their fault you live in a secluded area Lol 😆 everyone is so upset. I got my 2 shiny rayquaza. That's all that matters
@kaled8839 21 күн бұрын
@@HangrySnorlax_ it is niantics fault, this event being completely inaccessible dependent on where you live is a fault of their game design, ESPECIALLY when they already have the systems in place to make it accessible
@CreateYourHeaven 21 күн бұрын
@@HangrySnorlax_I don't live in a secluded area. I said, "There were no remote raids in the remote area which I was in."
@pokedrake5459 21 күн бұрын
@@HangrySnorlax_Niantic Defender, they ain’t sponsoring you 😂👆
@VVAC-f4p 21 күн бұрын
@@HangrySnorlax_"nah obviously its not bad game design its your problem! Niantic is the best!! 🤓"
@willtharp7477 21 күн бұрын
Niantic doesn't care. They are never going to care until players stop playing. After the remote pass nerf, they laid off a bunch of people, and their response to everyone's criticism was, "nothing to see here. Everything's working like we want." If we want to force any changes, 50% or more are going to have to stop playing.
@enso8289 21 күн бұрын
The vast majority of players are too weak to stop spending money on this game. They can’t even try going free to play.
@xboyjonny 17 күн бұрын
@@enso8289they are addicted degens that put their self worth into pokemon. Truly sad
@falleman 21 күн бұрын
I feel really bad for some of my friends, especially since I have a friend that absolutely adores Mega Rayquaza and was super hyped for it to return. But when she found out about Elite raids, she was so sad about it, mainly cause she lives in an area without any gyms within 2 hour radius. It’s a huge mistake by Niantic to introduce us to Elite Raids. They can’t release such expensive and exclusive Pokémon’s to them.
@blakennard 21 күн бұрын
I used to live in an area like that, untill I changed it. You can make nearly anything a pokestop nowadays and it takes less than 2 minutes to do.
@jaym7059 21 күн бұрын
I feel Elite Raids are fine, but they should be limited to unreleased non-meta mons which will be released within a few months of being in elite raids. Think the Regis in 2023. Overall this implementation was terrible having a major meta Pokemon available in person only.
@jaym7059 21 күн бұрын
@@blakennard Not always 100%. It boils down to the Wayfarer reviewers your area. I've seen several things approved which should not be stops/gyms. The review process is also inconsistent based on where you live. I've seen some stops approved in as short as a week or two and some requiring months. I do agree though that said people once appropriate level should take the time to be proactive and to generate as many stops possible in the area in which they reside.
@scarlettw01f66 20 күн бұрын
@@blakennardthere’s still the issue of getting enough ppl at the same gym at the same to raid and elite raid. A lot of us don’t have friends that actually play the game but we still want these pokemon that we can’t have due to elite raids
@rim_on7362 20 күн бұрын
@@blakennardin my village I was able to make 5 gyms and 12 stops but it'll not make any difference if me and my sister are the only player. I tried to make my friends and relatives interested in the game but everyone lost their interest within a week.
@krushking643 21 күн бұрын
Personally I think Niantic is going the route of becoming a commercial brand. I mean they want to be paid to drive tourism in certain countries with a go fest or city safari or even make people go to areas to shop but I don't think Niantic understands that not everyone in the community is that privileged to just plan a trip on the fly and I think that's why they push for features that feel less accessible and more "go to these specific places" have increased
@mariomezquita3492 21 күн бұрын
Ironic how 'The sense of Exploration' from a San Francisco based group of developers essentially means creating the conditions for rural/borderline rural players to have to get in cars in order to best enjoy the game. They should rebrand the game Pokemon DRIVE XD. To the TESLA, Pikachu! The Mega Rayquaza Elite Raid day was indeed a very disappointing day (personally). There was only really one park nearby where Mega Rayquaza spawned in gyms (and thankfully it was 2 gyms right next to each other), but even then, there weren't enough high level players to bring it down (6 players either mid-level or low level was understandably not enough). It does feel based on what most people have been posting like this was pretty much a 'Quick! find where in a densely populated urban area there will be an Elite raid, drive to it and wash/rinse/repeat. Which is great if you live in an area like that, but if you don't, you need to have a really well organised PoGO community. (and Niantic can then say it's not them, it's the poor community infrastructure)
@MARKPETJE 21 күн бұрын
Yeah, i live in a 3rd world country you would have to spoof to enjoy the game or Create multiple Accs and get them all to level 40 just for yourself in order to raid and get the Pokemon for your main Acc, there just isn't any community. In the last 4yrs i have only seen 2 other trainers that play regularly & all live many kilometers apart so we can't regularly meet
@YurinanAcquiline 21 күн бұрын
Have you tried Facebook? They normally have groups.
@jaydog-vz6vt 20 күн бұрын
Yup 4 accounts 3 f2p main is lvl 41 and then all lvl 33-36 could do rayquaza on my own
@No-One-Important-Here 21 күн бұрын
Rural players aren’t Niantic’s focus. This whole Pokémon Go game is really some experiment or data collection for Niantic’s main focus, AR and utilizing that to help companies and brands market. Denser population makes more sense for them and their clients; there are a lot more people to advertise to. Rural players and their shopping/mobile behaviors aren’t within their core interest.
@dork_3nergy 21 күн бұрын
Agreed with this video. Like I've mentioned several times already, Dev needs to play the game they work on. It's a great way to gain empathy and understand their player base. It's also easier to open up dialog and understand feedback videos like these.
@BenDover91187 21 күн бұрын
Thats a big assumption. I promise you the only thing they care about is $$$$$. They view it as the way were loyal to the player base is by making $$$$ so we can keep the game alive. Its really that simple they look at different courses of action (COAs) and go which one makes the most $$$$$ and go with that. Part of that plan is to pay influencers (YTers) to create FOMO therefore getting more people to spend. Never ever ever ever trust any YTer ever. I had a bro with a different mobile game be an infuencer for that game and he divulged how the devs use them to promote the game so all these guys are frauds
@botanist62 21 күн бұрын
Isn't this game supposed to be kid-friendly? Imagine being an actual KID and trying to participate in elite raids with your friends, and nobody is old enough to drive. Or maybe you live in a major city but have to go to faraway, possibly dangerous neighborhoods. I love how there is a warning on the loading screen when the weather is hazardous, but there is only "I am safe" as an option. That's probably so Niantic can't be held liable if a player gets struck by lightning or abducted while playing. Maybe we should petition the app stores to change the rating to 16+ due to the necessity of needing a car to participate in so many events.
@ladynoluck 21 күн бұрын
I’m lucky to be in a greater metro area, and my local community is pretty good and organized, but even our organized, metro area team struggled with this event. You HAD to drive around a lot to hit most of the raids. Yes, we had successful raids and enough people, but a lot couldn’t hit all the raids because of walking AND driving requirements. We didn’t have the time to do any “exploration” to make it to the next raid, even though I’d never been to that area before. Outside of events like this, I barely can get anything at home and have to drive to do anything meaningful in the game, and I won’t have raid help. My brother works at home and luckily has a stop a 15-minute walk away, but he gets barely anything in the game except on event days or if we drive out somewhere. I am even taking his account and plus+ to my office today, so he can get items/eggs at the stop on my office. So many players would happily given Niantic more money and time if they acted like they cared about the *entire* player base.
@kkkkkkkk652 21 күн бұрын
I live in the second biggest city in Portugal and is actually kinda hard to raids because it's pretty hard to raid irl
@Spencerguitarplayer 21 күн бұрын
No way. Stop the cap. I live in an area where these don’t even spawn because of how small the town is. No way you live in a big city and still struggle. It’s sounds like it’s a forced struggle.
@doublecomplex4741 21 күн бұрын
Niantic legitimized spoofing when they introduced remote raids. It makes sense that remote raiders would resort to spoofing after the nerf.
@basillah7650 21 күн бұрын
made it legit before remotes due to stupid in person instead of global events like gayfest having to fly to another country
@scarlettw01f66 20 күн бұрын
Lemme guess you live in and area were you can walk out your house and have 15 ppl in the elite raid you can join. I personally don’t spoof but I don’t blame them at all. Licking pokemon behind a location wall is disgusting
@doublecomplex4741 20 күн бұрын
@@scarlettw01f66 Your guess about me is inaccurate, but there is a fairly strong local community. I agree 100% with you. The only thing spoofers are at fault of is cheating at a bad game and risking losing their entire collection.
@doublecomplex4741 20 күн бұрын
@@basillah7650 Right? Its kind of insane to not allow global trading, but also have region-locked spawns and events only the richest can afford to attend?? 👎🤯
@TheShockwave114 20 күн бұрын
I used to work for a company that had the same look of "oh they are complaining for the sake of complaining" needless to say I couldn't work for them as their customers were suffering because problems didn't get fixed
@blakennard 21 күн бұрын
Between the change to the catch mechanics, avatar update, and now elite raids I can only asume that Niantic hates us all.
@foxfireglo8290 21 күн бұрын
They must
@khadeir55 21 күн бұрын
I’m glad you can acknowledge this situation in this game and be fair about it too. Can you imagine playing from 2016 just to be slap in the face time and time again because of where hot live. It’s hard enough to submit stops/gyms and now these elite raids only exclude ppl from experience events like this. I’ve even seen some YTubers saying there isn’t a big issues with this, that’s just insensitive. But sincerely appreciate you doing this.
@alexhunter5712 21 күн бұрын
Count I am so thankful for the work you put in and discussions about Pokemon Go!
@SirMopy 20 күн бұрын
it doesn’t matter tho.
@spieldose 21 күн бұрын
I set a flare at an amusement park and had 8 trainers battling RayRay and we still lost :( There's no way rural players would have had a chance.
@jaym7059 21 күн бұрын
I'm sorry this happened to you. It sounds also like a counter problem. Mega Ray with appropriate counters could be trio'd or even duo'd in some circumstances.
@couraffe2550 21 күн бұрын
Use proper counters (all pokemon with ice type charge moves) then you would've won
@jaydog-vz6vt 20 күн бұрын
It took us 4 with like 50 seconds left
@jaym7059 20 күн бұрын
@@jaydog-vz6vt good stuff!
@Ruab 21 күн бұрын
rural player here, this game is almost unplayable for most of us. we've gotta drive 30+ minutes just to play. it's a simple fix. make more gyms in rural areas and for every poke-stop make it two stops instead of one? if you double up on areas and allow certain spots to have more than 1 gym you'll easily fix the solution. they can easily figure out which areas need assistance based on the data they collect from all of us.
@thelordconstantine1464 20 күн бұрын
I know you can add PokéStops at level 30, but what about gyms?
@guauguaugaming8061 21 күн бұрын
My Community is small but very strong, we can take down mega rayquaza with 4 people, we can trio or duo shadow Lugia or Ho-Oh, but we couldn’t participate in this event because we don’t have any elite gym, so even if we are strong, we couldn’t play.
@Andy-we5og 21 күн бұрын
Four of us tried to beat ray and didn't even get 50% of the way there
@guauguaugaming8061 20 күн бұрын
@@Andy-we5og most of my friend’s are level 45+ and a couple are level 50, I’m level 44 with many level 50 legendary Pokémon, and in chase of mega rayquaza I use 2 level 50 shadow mamoswine and 4 level 40 normal mamoswine to take it down! I alone deal around 30-35% of his life with them! So it’s just a matter of take your time to prepare your Pokémon, power them up and you’ll be able to do the same as us! It just takes time but you can get to that point!
@turipgn1598 21 күн бұрын
The rural area issue is real. Ok, they nerfed the remote raids pass, but they should have at least considered the option of giving a free one per month. Plus, they have the coverage map of poke stops and gyms, they should provide some sort of compensation for players in those areas. In big cities you don't even have to do 10 m to spin 3 pokestops, while in some areas you do need to use a car or non legit methods. Even for people who live in big cities, if the local community is not big and organised you end up playing alone and missing a lot of features. Even with this Rayquaza event, I couldn't take part in any raids because... lunch time? happy hour time? I cannot center my entire life according to Pokémon Go events, and many other people are in my same condition. I still remember the Enamorus event during a working day in working hours. We are not all born the same, and even Niantic doen't fail to remember us that.
@ThatGuyJay44 21 күн бұрын
I think they need to switch the “one POI per S17 cell” rule, but only for rural locations. There can be more per S17 cell if there is fewer than X amount of POI per every S10-14 cell. That allows for potential of more POI in rural locations where maybe there are multiple POI options but all stacked within a small area (like a small town square).
@jaym7059 21 күн бұрын
I've gotten around this by moving things to separate cells as long as they aren't miles away. Never really had an issues with approvals.
@ZagelMedia 21 күн бұрын
Even in Mystic7's mega rayquaza video, HE LIVES IN SANTA MONICA AND THE RAIDS WERE STILL TRASH!!!! It's so stupid. I'm happy with my personal elite raid experience because I was insanely lucky, but I completely understand how bad PoGo has been recently.
@YurinanAcquiline 21 күн бұрын
I live somewhere rural. So I had to take 4 vehicles (buses, taxis) to reach my first elite raid. The only reason that did not bother me too much was because I would have to do that either way even if it was a normal raid day. No one lives close to me , so even though, a friend helped me set up two gyms and a few pokestops in my area. I cannot kill any major raids here either way. Mega Rayquaza day did work for me as I don't drive. At one point, I jumped on another taxi and did a run to catch a Rayquaza raid.😂😂😂😂
@Tw1ggzz 21 күн бұрын
I live in New Jersey, in a pretty suburban location, and still I have no hopes of finding any groups of players for these raid days. I went to 2 local parks at the start of 2 different time slots and not a single person joined the raids. So it was just wasted time for me on the weekend. No raids done at all
@harveyrottenberg8850 21 күн бұрын
I am a player where there is no stops and gyms and I have to ride a bike to play
@BillRoyMcBill 21 күн бұрын
Me too, it's a long walk or bikeride to even spin one stop...that means many days we get no balls or berries, and you can't really play with no 'equipment'.
@madhatter5594 21 күн бұрын
This was extremely frustrating event !!! Too short notice to plan effectively !!! But was still able to complete 9 raids…. Still though should have been able to do more I bought many passes hoping to do a bunch and get a shiny nope not enough time to do it
@TheJavie06 21 күн бұрын
From a rural area 100% agree. How the heck am i supposed to take down a weather boosted Rayquaza? I also think a lot of these counter guides are wrong. Ice Pokemon might have higher perfect world dps but in low trainer numbers they are glass cannons and the time to swap or heal factoring in lag brings their dps way down. In our group of 5 we got closer to beating him with rock types.
@jaym7059 21 күн бұрын
What types of counters were being used? Unironically among the top counters were Shadow Mewtwo and Mega Gardevoir. My assumption is you were running Party Power to boost damage? Party Power is huge.
@TheJavie06 21 күн бұрын
@@jaym7059 party power and mamoswine. All videos I have seen was just use ice Pokemon and run over him, but if everyone doesn't have high CP ice Pokemon then it's kinda useless. Yes 2x damage but we spent more time getting knocked than actually fighting.
@jaym7059 21 күн бұрын
@@TheJavie06 totally can empathize. I've started XLing all of my Mons and it has made an impactful difference. I generally duo EVERYTHING. Almost all of my raid counters are now XL'd and fully shadow. All of my relevant legendaries are also fully XL'd. I get not everyone can do this, but I have generally had no problem duoing anything in raids that can be done without party power and 3 people.
@TheJavie06 21 күн бұрын
@@jaym7059 yeah I am not at that point yet I was highest lvl in group at lvl40 and everyone else was 37 or lower.
@SirMopy 20 күн бұрын
@@jaym7059there are groups who don’t have XL maxed mons and are below lvl 40. so yeah. use brain, thx
@bobafittness1346 20 күн бұрын
You’ve hit the nail on this video. Many friends of mine had to spoof in order to get rayquaza as it only appeared once where we live (even though the place is filled with gyms and poke stops).
@joeyvandal 21 күн бұрын
I genuinely believe naintic doesn't care overall. It's not like they're losing money. Until that happens, they wont really listen. It's been like this since 2016
@Macncheesee 21 күн бұрын
No raids showed up in my town
@frederickdawson2253 21 күн бұрын
I stay in a rural area.... Niantic cn screw off if they think i was traveling 2-3hrs for this... Thats the nearest hot spot for me
@N0SOLUTION 18 күн бұрын
100% agree. I stayed at a hotel where I could touch 3 gyms at once from the room. My house however, has absolutely nothing around it and the community denied me a pokestop at my neighborhood park.
@ouchman2099 19 күн бұрын
man, seeing that rayquazas health go down so fast is so satisfying to see. I took a day off in the middle of my work week and I work nights btw. But I managed to play with randoms and out of the 12pm, 1pm, 5pm and 6pm attempts in my rural town. we beat rayquaza twice and I was only able to successfully catch one.
@K8duck 21 күн бұрын
In a neighbouring town here, there were no elite raids, so kids couldn't get Ray unless their parents wanted to drive them. Also give us 6 hours to find out where the elite raids was, expecting us to not do anything but play Pokemon Go is an insult. I still love the game but I don't play as much and I don't spend real money anymore.
@jaxmillion 21 күн бұрын
I live in NY a very rural area and the elite raid was awful. Central park area has the most gyms in the city and it was only possible to do 2 raids during the same times cuz they were so far apart from each other. For example. At 12 oclock u started 1 raid and u would walk to the closest 1 and it took 20 mins. I made it to the 2nd raid with 2 mins to spare.
@fabianmaryanowski2252 21 күн бұрын
On point! Just recently started because a colleague hooked me up with the game and my city is not super small but the Rayquaza raid was frustraiting as hell, couldnt get the pokemon, got Ho-Oh instead 😢
@Keith-dv9vo 21 күн бұрын
A guy met up with me dressed in black. Had to use my wonky hotspot 🤦 while he stood in the hot sun in a parking lot to get kicked out of one of the raids. So he did all of this to get one two star. I felt so bad for dude
@MollyOKami 19 күн бұрын
I live in the country & it's over 15 miles from my home to the nearest PokéStop, much less a gym. I definitely agree.
@angeladebeltz1903 21 күн бұрын
Wasn’t able to do any Ray raids. I wish it could go by the number of trainers in raid; bring down bosses CP to accommodate.
@jhonserrano1171 21 күн бұрын
They should change the rules of waypoints and let those players that’s are in rural areas make poke stops
@alvinwhitehead1069 21 күн бұрын
1:26 I know the feeling in my state just forgot about poeple in my state that I don’t have a vehicle😢!
@blairburdette5871 20 күн бұрын
We saw absolutely no mega raids on our area we drove to a more populated area to try to catch one and still didn't find one
@TheJCCMLP 20 күн бұрын
I live in a very rural area. I drove 45 minutes to a town with more gyms and stop in the hopes I’d find an elite raid. When I showed up it was only me and 2 other people which was a huge problem. Second problem none of the 6 gyms in town had a spawn on them this needs to be fixed.
@santiagoramos3006 20 күн бұрын
You are absolutely right!!! I hope someone at niantic watches this and takes notes!
@ArtimusDragon 20 күн бұрын
I agree with all your points. Also, RIP the OG soundtrack. It was perfect.
@KatrinaVoshell 20 күн бұрын
I live in a very small city. There were gyms with raid eggs, but the only one I could do was the 5 pm one and no one else showed up for it. I’m not going to drive and hour to the nearest big city just for Pokemon. Gas is too expensive for that.
@latsblaster 20 күн бұрын
In our Swedish town I felt like we had raids all over. I was in raids with 13-20 people all over the day and town, in the last we made it with only 4 people but party bonus. Went well.
@thelordconstantine1464 20 күн бұрын
My sister got me into Pokémon GO over the last month and it has been fun to grind and keep seeing improvement, especially in guides on how to get excellent throws. However, the only community that was on Campfire around me is dead, and I don't know anyone except for me and my sister that actually play here. We live in a little town about an hour from a city and 30 minutes from a smaller one. I wish I had the upbringing that let me enjoy peak PoGo
@jeffreyconnor8480 21 күн бұрын
These videos have been made for 8 years now. They don’t care. It’s a game geared toward youth, but adults play too. The fact that there’s an in app purchase option for 100$, yet they want dictate how you’re allowed to play…should tell you everything. Between paywall’d mons and xl candies……it’s a pay to play app taking advantage of people’s general nature to be competitive.
@poo11apr84 21 күн бұрын
I don't see that they'll ever be motivated to care about rural or suburban areas. The majority of their player base is in denser more-urban areas. If they're selling mapping data or making partnerships, then the mapping data of cities is going to be far more valuable than rural and suburban areas. That's just a fact of a location based game. Players can complain and argue until the cows come home, but this is something Niantic is unlikely to change even with better leadership. Having said that, there are things they could do to make the play experience better that would affect rural areas. I remember the first time I used Spacial Rend with Palkia. I thought to myself that this is how the game should always work. There is one thing that players should always be able to do no matter where they are and that's catch pokemon. You should never run out of pokeballs or pokemon to catch. Even in a dense city like Seoul. there are several areas that are almost devoid of pokemon. They should change to a wider catch circle and at least double the spawns of pokemon. This could only be a positive thing. Rural players will be happier with more to do and new players are less likely to quit. Now the issue with Saturday's raid day was not how it affected rural players. I'll admit that lite raids suck. I don't prefer to do them, especially over things like raid days or raid weekends. However, at this point we know what elite raids are. We all know that we are going to have to prepare to go somewhere that has elite raid gyms. Even in Seoul, I have to travel 30 or 40 minutes to get to a group of Elite raids. THE REAL ISSUE was the bug that kept eggs from spawning 24 hours before hand. When this happened, the communication was terrible. On their twitter page they gaslighted everyone acting like the eggs were always intended to spawn at 6AM. When 6AM rolled around, there were still no eggs. Some the eggs popped up while we were doing the first round of raids at 12PM. They clearly encountered a bug and instead of being upfront with the community, they gaslighted us and then ghosted us. Elite raids are already hard to plan, for all players. Having only a couple hours to a couple minutes to figure out raids, really isn't something most can do.
@Jqcksremmurd 21 күн бұрын
Its crazy because this was a day 1 problem that was just never addressed
@ianlister7333 21 күн бұрын
yeah rural players can loose out. Whilst I live in an English village, ive noticed there is always stops and gyms in even the smallest villages. However there are not the players. Right now I live 20 minutes away from a City with a busy Discord and a few strong leaders who can arrange a walking route for things like Elite Raid Days. So whilst I have no big demands on my time I dont mind joining those groups for big events. However I do get that this isnt the rural experience everyone has. It would be nice to have something like a "local raid pass" for gyms within say 50 Kms of your location" for events like that.
@MagGuevara 21 күн бұрын
This is exactly why I stopped playing the game, you either live on a Big city or play long enough to turn yourself into a spoofer, and even if you only spoof for the location bonus (no easy catch or radars) you see that the game is just down boring cycle of the repeated raid boss. If you don't like to collect or PVP there not much else to achieve in the game.
@couraffe2550 21 күн бұрын
0:17 Niantic might plan to do a make-up raid day for mega rayquaza since in NZ affected players got raids immediately at 6am local timezones PLS BE A REGULAR RAID DAY NOT ELITE RAIDS AGAIN
@YTubeScandalScrambledMyHandle 20 күн бұрын
I've barely been playing 7 months. Just when I think my comments are ignored or even ghosted, someone like you comes out speaking game experience. Thank you. I'm very rural. 30 minute drive to the closest gym. Landmarks being corn & soybean farms lol. Doubt I can make them stops & gyms. Not only is it hard out here for a playa but it's hot out here for a playa lol. Best to ya! 😇✌️
@AnthonyVsTheWorld 20 күн бұрын
I was able to do ONE raid because like you said there wasnt much GYMs in my area + it started raining heavily but the one i catch was pretty nice IVs and got an extra Meteorite 🥴
@mrcteddy20 21 күн бұрын
I was more active during Covid with raids but once they nerfed them, I basically stopped all together unless a new Legendary or Mega came out.
@pueohoot543 21 күн бұрын
Totaled Zero Elite raids completed 👍 couldn’t fill a lobby. So very very hot (120°+ for 9 hours of the day)
@GuiltyDjinn 19 күн бұрын
I got to an Elite raid (the only one viewable from my home) and was the only person standing there in the cold.. what's the point in playing, if I can't play?
@jeff_uchiha 21 күн бұрын
I wish the Pokémon company can remove the rights off from Niantic and give it to a Way better gaming company, Niantic NEEDS TO GO
@daniel17846 20 күн бұрын
I lived in a place for almost the full 8 years in a place that I had to drive 20+ minutes to do anything. I rarely played but I love the game. I moved to the fort hood area and found some people that play. I was able to do 7 raids and lost one due to lack of players. Most of the 6 raids I won had 20-40 people playing. It's rough
@enso8289 21 күн бұрын
I started spoofing on separate account since the remote change. It’s mainly to trade with my primary. If the game is catered to a certain group, why shouldn’t I cater the game to myself?
@robdw42 20 күн бұрын
I believe the designers live in an area with better weather too. If they had long harsh winters they might be more supportive of remote raids.
@Blaze-ut5vl 20 күн бұрын
Atleast when they first released mega RAY you could remote. I did some elite raids it’s just too much of a hassle to try to do them on and off all day at random times hard to organize even more so with less time to see where they will be. It’s whatever getting numb to expectations from them at this point. If they are not careful even more players are going to get up and go all right just not the way they want.
@Miklo_1 21 күн бұрын
I live in Los Angeles and I still feel elite raids are jumping through hoops. So frustrating. We already have shadow raids that don’t allow you to invite. They really need to take care of the community and eliminate the doubled price for remote rates. And allow us to invite our friends that don’t live close to us.
@SirShiftty 20 күн бұрын
I’m fortunate to live right outside of the largest city in my state, but it really does suck when I’m with my girlfriend on the weekends and don’t want to drag her out or drive. My friends who have moved to smaller areas don’t even play anymore because they can’t raid without buying remote passes.
@alfiesmullet1311 21 күн бұрын
I would've quit this game a long time ago if I lived in the suburbs
@gamersleaddltx4698 21 күн бұрын
love the new intro Jinsula :D
@0thunderstorm01 21 күн бұрын
Honestly I feel like they are not listening to the community and will not in the future. They just do whatever they want and making the situation worse with every update and event, I quit the game 3 times in the past year already. The game is just flooded with bugs and issues.
@JC-be5cc 20 күн бұрын
I was a player from the beginning who stopped playing in January. Update locked me out of my account, and customer support is the worst I've ever dealt with.
@brianfoust1216 20 күн бұрын
The thing I hate the most are shadow Legendary raids. I always feel helpless, because i never can find enough players. Living in a rural area is awwful for that gameplay
@michaelbreaks331 20 күн бұрын
Its tough in my area. Sure there are gyms that have them but not like a crazy amount. Also locals dont know how to coordinate and I was in small man lobbies with Poliwrath, Primal Groudon, and something with lock on (maybe a Regi). I understand not every trainer will have the most optimal counters but at the same time it hinders on others. This whole event was just one big headache and should have been a raid day like they announced originally. Remote raids have a slight chance to get meteorite but in person raiding offers a more likely chance if they want to encourage in person play.
@danielsummerville6799 21 күн бұрын
Out of curiosity, what's a pokemon you'd be devastated if it ever got accidentally transferred? Mine would be the first trade I received from my son. A cracking 5/14/2 Shuckle. Pure God teir.
@mr.wiiick2772 21 күн бұрын
I stopped playing the game 4 years ago and just came back. I have noticed many improvements but there is still so much to do…. It’s been 8 years!!! I would have imagined the game would have been perfected by now.
@azzman3555 21 күн бұрын
I agree ever since the red Nerf I do minimal raids. I do not have a community so to speak, although I can go to many gyms but there’s no one there to help me defeat the bosses and with only five remote raid passes in the elite raids in person I was able to get Ray so I missed that whole day and that important stone
@azzman3555 21 күн бұрын
Sorry was not able to get ray
@simercury515 21 күн бұрын
PGo isn't the same game outside of downtowns; either they don't get it or are lying about carrying about the issues. Both would be bad and not surprising. Why did we have to get Niantic for GPS pokemon?!?
@chaosdragun1608 20 күн бұрын
100% agree. Even with a good group we couldn't do many raids because it was a 10 minute ride between raids. Niantic gave a big middle finger to the non-city playerbase and it's just unacceptable.
@foxfireglo8290 21 күн бұрын
I’ve been playing since 2016 and did not do any raids. Niantic doesn’t listen to its players, they just try to make money off us constantly, and game play is frustrating and not worth the effort. It is too hard to get people together and most people in my community don’t raid anymore.
@amyleeglassner 21 күн бұрын
100% Accurate. I’m a rural player and it’s very hard to play PoGo when it comes to Raid Bosses because unless I can remote, I won’t get it. I have missed out on a lot because there is no Pokémon community near me unless I drive 30-45 mins from me. Niantic doesn’t care about the players. They care about money. Period.
@myyyybbbb 21 күн бұрын
Count could you make a vlog about Wayspotting? Teach the rural Trainers how to maximize the valid Waypoints in their area? Maybe connect with The Wayspotters Podcast guys, Jamal and Chris in NYC or have them on your vlog? I significantly improved my preferred area of play by learning how to nominate Waypoints. The Wayfinding Community in my area tries to reach out to rural Trainers and help them but it is better if they learn how to do it themselves. Niantic will not talk about S2 cells, IITC for Pokémon Go Wayspotting or how to trigger more gyms but maybe you can?
@fortnitebrquests 20 күн бұрын
Only 1 spawn in my area, and no one else turned up for it except me and my son 😢 So nothing for us unfortunately
@Kalseanel 20 күн бұрын
I think for us in the rural area if pokestops gave iteams out based on the number of stops in the large cell this would help so if you only have one it give out more items and if you have loads they give out what they all ways did you would only be missing out on the xp as you not spinning as many. This would help out loads my son is only after starting out and he gets beaten up buy raid and team rocket so much that he has no revives and loads of Pokemon KO. So he uses worse Pokemon they get KO and so on. Some thinking like 24 later they should revive.
@athenvillegas6923 20 күн бұрын
Missed on meteorites, cuz challenges ended soon after I got home to do task All I needed was to power up Pokémon to finish last task But I was busy driving home… after raiding elite raids which were far from each other… I now deleted game
@georgewilliams8492 21 күн бұрын
They need a rural pass…like if your area your in is considered a rural area your able to participate in elite raids at home
@williamjoback1436 20 күн бұрын
I have restricted myself to filling my pokedex as new pokemon come out, but I am not going out of my way to get the new pokemon and gave up on pursuing trainer level 50.
@nova_9812 20 күн бұрын
Rural player here. I live in a village with around 2K people, so i'm the only one who plays, so i go to the cities at the weekends. There wouldn't be problems playing here, if they'd accept my pokéstop nominations, but they keep refusing them for no reason. Once they accepted one, and it just didn't show up in the game. Playing here is miserable
@doublecomplex4741 21 күн бұрын
I live in the capital city of my state and the experience is still very suburban. Every gym is a church and driving is a requirement to grind raids outside of raid hours. We had to forge a community because nobody was gonna do it for us. I’m proud of what I helped build but salty that NIA makes enjoying their game so difficult.
@TreFKennedy 21 күн бұрын
Nerfantic is waging war against it’s audience Count, Dope vid too
@chriscamenga2497 20 күн бұрын
i play in San Diego and its great, i got a few raids at the 12pm hatch. Than i had to travle to Riverside 5-6 pm, i found 2.......... for 30 miles. there was a small party of 4 people that were not able to get it down. Elite raids are awful, revert back to the invite style or remove it.
@Gaming_Nerd1993 21 күн бұрын
I think these Legendary Pokemon should be apart of a Masterwork Research 6 months to 1 year after the event with them being in the CP of 10k - 15k with the price of the ticket to do said Masterwork Research costing 10 to 15 USD or equivalent in your area around the world just for these rural area players to obtain these Legendary Pokemon.
@cfh_doomed8879 21 күн бұрын
Ya I live in a suburb and gyms are only at parks or business, I prob have 5 gyms near me,rest are miles away so I get a 6pack of beer n start walking lol
@mongchang8532 21 күн бұрын
Being from California and rural area, our main street has over 10 elite gyms. Not one of these were for Mega Rayquaza. They place Mega Rayquaza to the far corner of the map. 10 min drive in all directions. Did they want players to get into accidents? Talk about cutting out kids who wanted to play. No car? No Mega Rayquaza? 5 billion dallors revenue company so far. $500,000,000 yearly revenue. Niantic could not care less about their players.
@ymcavalier3555 21 күн бұрын
I live in a urban area and still had to drive from place to place bc the elite raids were so spread out and not walkable especially in hot summer weather. Ppl stayed in their cars and didn’t interact. Not a good idea to make rayquaza an elite raid. Think of the environment too, Niantic
@KARTOONZpdx 21 күн бұрын
Live in the city and paid for the research thinking I might have an hour after work but because of all the issues and way it was set up I’m still a 2016 player who’s yet to get a chance at rayquazza
@basillah7650 21 күн бұрын
It was free no paid research got a 2nd for free using a code
@basillah7650 21 күн бұрын
elite raid day not a raid day no paid research lol
@aaronnhem7282 21 күн бұрын
Idk how they have gone 8 yrs with 0 communication with the community with how big pokemon go got
@joerivera2909 21 күн бұрын
Solid video ✊🏽
@picsl8ed867 20 күн бұрын
I used to play 5+ hours a day the first year. Then I started watching influencers play, and achieve in 10 minutes what took me 2 hours, since they were in the biggest cities and I am in a small town. Nothing is more discouraging then spending hours upon hours of your time in a game, only to realize you are accomplishing nothing.
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