You can be 99.9% sure that if these elite medical people discover a Natural immune blood sample to this virus they will be looking as to why this person didn't get the VIRUS and do their best to discover why this is.. and then produce a Vaccine that will alter this next generation of Vaccines to kill those person's immune systems..

Have you heard of LH after the V?

@@MK-ih6wp ~~ what is "LH?"

@@MK-ih6wp less healthy

As soon as medical industrial complex finds it profitable.

Good suggestions, but lifestyle changes are hard for people to make and are not immediate in effect. So I think we are left with pharmaceutical interventions for most people.

Wow this is kind of freaky. The original comment by Mark Given carried a very different message, now it's edited. Why the change, regret or fear?

@ad. I do not recall making any edits. And the message seems consistent with something I would say. Sometimes I may say it more assertively.

You're a fool.. open your damn eyes. We are in a whirlwind of lies.

SMART WAY TO TELL THE TRUTH

Me too. Letting people stay home until they were dying then telling them to go to the hospital without any treatment by their doctors was a first clue.

@@Christian-jx3nx Don't forget the approved FDA and CDC hospital treatment was to wait till the patient couldn't breath, then intubate with a ventilator. They actually thought they could use high pressure to force O2 into their heavily contaminated and congested lungs filled with spike proteins. This treatment would rupture the delicate lung alveoli, further damaging their health and vulnerability. Next they would infuse into their blood a toxic drug called remdisavir, that killed both the kidneys and the liver. Without any evidence or trial study success they poisoned people and said they died of covid. At that point, the hospital qualified for federal funds as much as $100K for the dead patient.

The discussion has not really focused on the cost of vaccines and therapeutics. We all pay for the vaccines since funded by the Federal Government. I agree with you. Also the cost of 5 day course of Paxlovid is over $500 which is outrageous so giving to low risk patient even if great supply is available is stupid.

In Europe all free up to 4th shot

@@doctorrobert60 but its a 15 $ vaccine NOT 100s

@Martin P Free? Pfizer is charging the UK government at least £25 a shot for the vaccine, plus GPs are getting c£15 aime to give the jab. Taxpayers are funding this nonsense.

Wait, where do you live? In USA they are charging you for the jabs? Doesn't sound right.

Are you feeling good about now having natural immunity? You are very lucky. Very smart move to avoid the ridiculous jab.

@@cantweallgetalong We post to recover within one or two days of the symptoms and we don’t seem to have any symptoms of Long Covid We take a lot of Supplements CD3 zinc NAC, and others they all seem helping!

@@walnutparent I'm so glad for you. It seems that the recommended supplements are a very good idea. I too keep up my daily regimen of C and zinc and D3 as well as K2, but i need to research NAC.

@@cantweallgetalong NAC is a godsend. Absolutely miraculous product.

No, they are not practical. Not affordable either. Not a reliable predictor of protection from infection either, since they made it abundantly clear that you can, and likely will, become infected with the newer and highly contagious variants even if vaccinated.

Since HCQ is interacting with Remdesevir can be an explanation for HCQ failure

I’ve worked in Covid units for last 2 years. I’m not sure remdecivir was that helpful. Steroids and anticoagulation was main treatments. I think our protocols should have allowed for much higher steroid doses.

@@patrickhaarhues2870 data shifted on that regard steroids.

@@patrickhaarhues2870 I'm not familiar with any reports of safety and efficacy of remdecivir? Other than the CDC and FDA, with their horrendous guide lines, I think most doctors will admit that the damage caused to the kidneys and liver kill the patient before the covid can.

@@kw7807 WRONG - PROPER STEROID DOSING AND BEST STEROID TO USE WAS KNOW, TESTIFIED TO BEFORE CONGRESS AND IGNORED

I would agree that he didn’t do the best job answering that particular question. However there’s still no clear data to suggest that there would be clear benefits for additional boosters in terms of severe disease if those doses are indeed “boosters” and not additional doses for “primary series”. That being said if the third dose or the fourth dose is actually more of an “additional dose for primary series” meaning that one actually needs that many doses in order to generate enough memory cells. If that’s the case, I think there’s little argument against those doses being recommendable. Issue to that is the number of doses that’s required for an individual can be largely varied by: age, underlying health conditions, medications that the person takes etc. I believe that’s also the reason why he was saying that we need more clear recommendations of number of doses for different groups, however it’s quite hard to give an easy clear cut one size fits all recommendations, academically speaking

Nothing is obvious without data

They cannot recommend before they have clear data. Your provider is your best source of information because they should know your particular risk profile. What we do know is that the death rates for people over 75 are far and away a multiple of death rates for people under 75 for the last 2 months in states in which the BA variant is predominant, such as NY and MA.

@@Cathy-xi8cb The UK has decided to offer the 75+ age group a 4th dose. The original plan was to lower this age to 70, but this has been postponed. The 4th dose increases the antibody levels which can improve the performance of the innate immune system if infected. I think that the most likely Mechanism of Action (MoA), is that the antibodies enable the complement system to be activated by the classical pathway. Hence the innate immune system can enange more readily with the virus and dampen the infection while waiting for the adaptive response to develop.

There is no super strong version of Covid vaccine. But over 75 year olds with greatly diminished ability to create innate antibodies have choices with Flu vaccines designed for that diminished ability. So, over 75 year olds are unlikely to escape endless repeat shots to keep up antibodies. Best choice in my opinion would be to give EVERYONE over 65 or 70 Evusheld every 6 months.

:-) Same here! Dr. Wachter's probing questions are always welcome to distinguish between public health policy and individual risk assessment. In a world of unknowns and pending data, sounds like we're in it for the long haul so it was helpful to know how the panelists actually manage personally and for their patients.

Did you know that the COVID-19 vaccines can cause AIDS?????????

I stopped watching right at 3:58 after Offit said the goal of the covid vaccine is to prevent serious illness. That's a lie. The goal of course was to prevent infection, which is why Biden said to the whole nation you won't get COVID if you get these vaccinations. They failed the goal, so they changed the goal along with the definition for "vaccine" LOL. Offit can't be honest about that fact. He disrespected the viewers. Who does he think he is "educating"? So I stopped wasting my time after the first (almost) 4 min.

Offit is saying that long COVID appears to be more than one disease process. He isn't denying it as a problem at all. This is clear when you consider that they are looking at people who were in the ICU, never even went to the ER, are able to work but not go to the gym, and people who are bed-bound. Too many differences in disease experience and progression of recovery post-infection. He is not speaking as a treating clinician. Public health policy isn't the same as an individual's actions.

Maybe it would help if you actually listed to him

Your answer is terribly helpful. So glad your relying to clinician comments!

Luckily I am a clinician. Thank you for the reply!

No.

You have never treated someone with Post-Polio syndrome. I have. The defeated look in their eyes as the disease they survived in childhood rips away their ability to walk and hold a spoon in old age is striking. They would have given anything not to have been infected and survived, only to be crippled by the sequelae.

@@Cathy-xi8cb Are you sure they didn't contract polio from the vaccine?

@@MK-ih6wp The patients I treated contracted polio in the 1940's. The vaccine was invented in the 1950's. So...no.

@@Cathy-xi8cb Are you seriously comparing the polio vaccine to these experimental gene therapy shots mis-labelled on purpose as "vaccines"?????