Hell I'm still flying on my old futaba am radios

Same here ther just isn't any other better

Thank You Gilbert.

Oh yeah, I came to call them (affectionately) Castor Slingers for the goop they throw all over the models they're pulling. It's also this coating that has saved so many from corrosion as they lay is storage over the decades. Thanks for your note, and Good Luck with building your collection!

@@Winter_Sportster Castor Slingers is a great way to describe those busy little engines! - Appreciate you taking the time to respond 😊

@@auger7074 You bet! There few things so aggravating and wonderful at the same time as glow engines! Take Care!

Thank you! I like swapping out different engines, and my Lazy Bee and Q-Tee have been frequent targets!

Thank you for your comment...this was a particularly great evening for flying.

It’s the best I’ve seen. This video should be on one of those “very satisfying” videos that are all over KZfaq. The folks doing a great job, like a skilled drywall guy or chocolatiers etc. I LOVED this vid.

@@Winter_Sportster Very well done Sir! :))

@@skippmclovan1135 Thank You!!!!

Thank You !

Ohhhhh I was wondering why he kept killing it!! I used mine once on an airplane as a pusher, I didn't have any pusher props so I just flipped it over and ran it backwards 😄 Worked great!

Thank you! You know how it is, when things get slow...

Thank you! They were fun to set up and run, and other than REALLY liking to start in the wrong direction, were pretty cooperative! Got plans for more "Hammerheads" when time allows. Thanks again for your comment! Kim

Thank You!

Yep...they're messy little things!

Thank You !!!!

Thanks Man!!! Yeah, still love and use these little cameras! As with yourself, they opened up a new world for me...letting me witness what my model airplane saw. Back in the early 1980's, I wrecked a really nice (and fairly expensive) sport plane while trying to get it to pack a Super 8 Film movie camera up into the sky. The ensuing high-speed cartwheel damaged everything but the camera! Funny thing about the bandaide is that I got cut by a different prop on "normal" set-up earlier in the day! You tend to pay a LOT more attention when you've got TWO of these little finger biters going! Thanks for your post, and good flying to you! Kim

+joechill1 Thank you! I've had the Bee a long time, and we're sorta like old friends.

Thank you! Lots of fun!

Thank You!

Thank You Scotty!

Thank You !!!

Thank you !

Thank You!!!!

We ALWAYS need more power!!!!!😁😄🤣😂🙂

Thank you! Glad you liked this bit of backyard silliness!

Thank you!

Thank you Jose!

Yeah, I joked that starting them is kinda like petting Scorpions! I never got tagged by the Space Hoppers or Gilbert engines, but each flight began with a good dose of tension! Adding to that is their sometimes aggravating ability (just like the Gilbert engines) to happily start and run in either direction. I eventually started using my Hornet 1/2A electric starter to get things going a lot easier and quicker, and was able to log a bunch of flights with each of the weird-sounding set-ups.

Balls of steel on this one haha

Yeah, in this case, it was more of a design fault with the engine mount. I built it with the left engine's prop arc in in front of the right engine's. If I do this again, I'll keep this in mind ahead of time, and have the right engine leading.

Yeah, little bit of a trick, but I resist using electric starters on these old engines (unless I finally get fed up with them starting backwards...Space Bugs will run in either direction), and have had good luck with never getting tagged by this set-up.

+Tubergen MotorSports Thank You! I've got a little 'Hornet Starter which I should have used (would have been great in getting them going in the right direction!) I got kidded about the bandage on my finger, but that injury came from another model that only had one engine! Thanks again for your comment!

Don't know!!! But a good question!!! I've set up several of these things I call "Hammer Head Twins", and strangely enough, have not been tagged by any of them---yet!!! Guess the extra threat makes me more careful!

Neat! I’ve been toying with the idea of building a Cox powered something, myself.

Thanks Pete! It was really just a test to see how the Lazy Bee would take having two engines bolted to it's nose, without any major mods to the old airplane. I DID have to add a bunch of washers to add down-thrust after the first flight. Don't know if I was distracted or what when I was gluing the thing together, but I built the mount in a way that put the Space Hoppers at a pretty good upward angle. I've got two wings for the Bee, and used the longer one for the twin flights, keeping it climbing while the engines were both running, since I wasn't sure about it's single engine performance. On one flight though, I flew it around for close to two minutes on one engine, with the Bee's giant rudder easily keeping it under control. It even gained a bit of altitude, but I would hate to have to actually climb out with only one turning. A fun project, and when time allows, I want to put some Atwoods, OK Cubs, and other old engines on the Bee. Take Care, and Thanks again for your comment!

It's a key fob camera I got from Ebay. They're easy to mount on an arrow shaft 'selfie stick', and as long as they're counter balanced with another camera or ballast lead, the plane pretty much flys the same.

+Tee Bee One more question. What size tank did you use? I'm thinking 1.5oz for Surestarts or 2oz for TDs would do the trick for decent flight times.

+Tee Bee Thank You! With the Lay Bee's tapered nose, about the largest tank that would fit (and still be fairly close to the engine) was a two ounce Sullivan tank, turned on it's side. I did consider hanging external tanks outside the fuselage, as I do when I run diesels on the Bee, but decided to at least try using it's original tank. The common tank set-up was an answer to a idea that I was told over and over wouldn't work (I was also told that a Cox .049 wouldn't draw all the fuel from the 4 ounce tank that I used in a Minnie Mambo I named "Little Traveler". My friends and I flew that model 15 miles and 35 minutes non-stop in a fund raiser for St. Jude Children's Hospital). Starting the engines DOES take a little dancing with with some scissor clamps (it usually went a lot smoother than in the video, but I decided to include some of the starting hassles along with the flying). Once both are cranked up, they run just fine, but it should be noted that they've both been run extensively beforehand, and could be called 'good-natured' runners. Cranky engines WOULD be a major pain (at least for me) in this kind of set-up. When the tank ran out, they both stopped within a few seconds of each other. I intend to go back to the original footage and time the runs with the two ounce tank, but keep getting drawn off to other projects. It DID allow plenty of time for a couple passes and then a climb to altitude. You DON'T want to get caught down low with a failed engine, and my plan was to just drive it onto the ground while I had enough air over the Bee's rudder. I first saw the 'Hammer Head' set-up in a magazine photo way back when I was kid in the 1960's. Another kid in Belgium or somewhere had built a huge model, but didn't have an engine large enough to fly it, so he used two smaller engines he had on hand. Gonna do some more, but I managed to drop the Lay Bee and shatter it's laminated rudder. Sort of ironic considering all the danger it's seen. Got a new rudder framed up, so we'll be back in action soon. Sorry for the novel...I can get carried away with this stuff. P.S. --Gonna subscribe to your channel when I can---running on dial-up at the moment!

Thanks for the reply. I remember your Minnie Mambo! I built one a few years back and found your cross-country escapades while researching on the forum online. Mine has an intake-throttled Surestart and is very underpowered but still fun to fly from time to time. It has a 2oz tank. I have an old Pong Two that was flown for years with a Black Widow 049(still have some old videos of it on the tube) that's been sitting for a while. I got it out last night to see what it would take to refurbish it for flight and convert it to a twin. Lots of projects in the works now, so it might take a while. Take care and stay tuned...

Strange enough (or actually typical with some of these pups), I was flipping it backwards to get it to start forward. This particular engine liked to start and run backwards on forward flips. I wanted to avoid using my Hornet electric starter, giving myself a little hassle getting them going in the right direction. The engines are slightly staggered, letting their props overlap, and I always start the 'back one' to help stay out of the arc of the one that's running.

Thanks for the explanation! I'm a very curious person and I'm always asking questions. Good day.

This also brings to mind the .049 I had when I was younger. It had a spring starter which prevented it from ever running backwards. This engine came in a Cox Super Sport 2 control line plane. I took it out of that plane and mounted it on an Ace High Mk2 that I built a year or two later. Ahhh, the good old days of youthful ignorant bliss, unlimited energy and no pain...

Well there are still a BUNCH of them around. The Cox Engine Forum is a group of great guys who love these things and a lot of other types also. Maybe give it a look if you feel like it.

The Space Hoppers will run in either direction, and I was stopping the engine when it started backwards. I took a few tries to get both going in the right direction, and I probably should have edited it out, but decided to just leave it in.

@@Winter_Sportster gotcha. I remember that now

+chevy362000 Thank You! The Lazy Bee has a Sullivan two-ounce 'slant-style' tank, turned on it's side. It was the biggest tank that I could reasonably fit in the Bee's narrow nose. It's 'normal engine' is an O.S. .10FP that gets plenty of run time from this size tank.

+chevy362000 Thank you! It's a 2 ounce Sullivan tank with the angled front. Plenty of fuel for a decent amount of flying for these and with the Lazy Bee's normal engine- an O.S. 10FP.

A Lazy Bee needs a bit more power than an .049, though it's designer Andy Clancy flew one very effectively with a Black Widow. Years ago, Cox offered a foamy RTF Lazy Bee that flew just fine on it's ,049. My Bee normally flys with an O.S. .10 that's pulled it around since 1995. I DID try it with a P.A.W. .06 Diesel, but it was grossly under-powered. All this would probably change if it was lighter.

+alex geiser Most hobby stores can now get a fuel sold by Hobbico with the 'Cox' label.

+alex geiser Sorry for the long delay in getting back....fuel for these engines can be ordered from Sig Mfg. (Champion 20% is a good all around fuel for them), and Hobbico is selling a quality Cox Brand fuel that many hobby stores carry.

Durn Slacker !!!

I've never weighed it, but will throw it on some scales when I get a chance. It's flying with it's old O.S. 10FP right now.

Thanks, i have a 28oz plane and im thinking about running a cox .049 in but worried its to heavy.

Hey Alexander, I finally got home and weighed the Lazy Bee with both of it's wings. This is with an O.S. 10. installed: With it's 40" wing, it came in at 36 oz. With the 48" wing, it came in at 39 oz. It's a pretty old plane (built in 1994), and has had a lot of repairs that have added weight. I've never flown it with a single .049, but remembered that I DID try it with a P.A.W. .06 Diesel several years ago. It barely flew, but your plane is much lighter, so a healthy .049 may work. I have an old video tape, with a segment showing Andy Clancy flying one of his Bees just fine with a throttle-band Black Widow. No weight was mentioned, but bet it was a pretty light airframe.

+wintersportster I actually decided to go with a enya 09 iv for my plane, its a sal taibi powerhouse. 50 inch wingspan. Thanks for the reply, i still would like a smaller model to install my cox .049 surestart in. Just haven't found the right model.