These intros keep getting better

I love it when you upload. Each video is creative and unique.

Let it be known to any execs who watch this video: I would gladly watch CPF's proposed script. Coming from a fan who hasn't bothered with any of the films after T3. Also give Tayon another round of applause for making the first good officially licensed Terminator thing since 1995.

You've pointed out so many plot holes. The real sequel we didn't get should of been about another developer getting the schematics and research that was backed up by Cyberdyne at a different facility that Sarah didn't know about. And judgement day 2 is set 20-30 years later. And no john Conner in the sequel as he disappeared due to a paradox. Basically everything they did at Cyberdyne facility and the melting molten scene ends up screwing them over. And the dates just get pushed back. This time though they send a machine back to hunt others a threat to SKYNET. And it just be a bloodbath movie like t1 a horror and bring back the blood packs and practical effects and throw in some new future war scenes. And we see the resistance get wiped out due to the events of T2 and Sarah / John changing the fate.

Amazing per usual hope your well in these strange times.

How did I miss this for 2 weeks? Shame on KZfaq's algorithm.

(Can no longer overhear or even THINK the simple question "WHY is this so hard?" without now hearing it in your increasingly-irked voice here, and now it makes me giggle. So, thanks for THAT. :P )

Another great video from the criminally under-viewed CPF. Great work as always, both in the writing and production. Keep em coming!

I had an idea for a Terminator movie that was kind of like 12 Monkeys. Kyle Reese had to convince Sarah Conner that the terminator was real, but you never saw the terminator, and you never saw Kyle Reese go back through time. And you'd never be sure if it was real or not.

this just highlights why to me There's only two terminator movies And a lot of Fanfiction

Your proposed sequel storyline is damn good and it made me happy hearing it.

I watched 26:30 - 30:00 about 3 times in a row just now i LOVE your plot

Great video, as you always do. Thanks I gave up after T3 & never went back

Legendary video my man. Dare i say your best yet. Will share

Amazing points across the board here.

Great video as is usual from Corn Pone Flicks. I look forward to your next one.

I’m shocked to see cornpone only has 8k subscribers. if there’s any justice in this world that number will multiply 20 fold. These videos are so well done

thanks. great video as always. I'll be back (for more)

Maybe the inconsistent details from future and past is due to interference from one or both of the Lodges.

Great video. You come across as a fan who is rightfully pissed with how lazy and disrespectful the series has been treated and more than just shitting on it, provide criticism AND recommendations. Love your work, keep it up, you deserve clicks.

I can only muster one word; PREACH. Please write the script for YOUR Terminator sequel. Your videos are awesome. Thank you for explaining Inland Empire too.

Completely summed up by that shot @13:16 where a helicopter is outpacing a nuclear explosion. As the saying goes..."Yeah, right!"

Very, very good video. Thank you.

Great analysis of the series! I'm a super fan and enjoy them all, regardless of inconsistencies. I just follow the fan theory that the looping timeline adjusts a bit after every movie or two.

Listen, and understand! That Paramount Studio Executive is out there! It can't be bargained with. It can't be reasoned with It doesn't feel pity, or remorse, or fear. And it absolutely will not stop, ever, until your story continuity is dead.

Teeminator: The Little Engine That Shouldn't

It’s nice to see your new video again! You haven’t been back for awhile now, was kinda worried due to covid. Beautiful review of the franchise, typical Hollywood beating a dead horse approach unfortunately. Amazing intro! I hope someone from Hollywood will see this and appreciate it enough to give you the resources to produce the RIGHT sequel! I am not kidding!

Love your shirt.

Agree with every word.

I personally think one of the biggest issues, one that destroys everything that tries to build above it when it fails, is if they understand what a guerrilla is. During the Afghan war there were talks about their female warlords, certain female figures that, when looked not as enemies, were not that different from the stereotypical jewish or italian grandma moving her famiily around except they lives prepared to get shot at any point. Sarah could had easily been that, someone who formed a family (genetic but not only) and makes them work better than they would by themselves, not a super mastermind sharpsooter explosive expert hacker leader. When they have no real life basis to what a resistance leader would be, they can't make a John or Kyle or Sarah that make sense because they're not supposed to be super action heroes, they weren't in the good ones. They were normal people who happened to end up in a war zone and try to make it work even though they're pretty sure it won't. Those are the heroes that make you buy into this "franchise."

So. Tell us how you REALLY feel. I've enjoyed every Terminator movie on its own merits, but I still find your criticisms to be valid. And I fully agree that a "third" episode is possible, if only from the standpoint of completion. Whether it would generate positive box office and review, after seeing -- what -- FOUR other attempts crash and burn, is another question. I think the Terminator series is arguably the most disappointing of the big movie franchises simply because of how much promise the first two movies provided toward a final film to complete what would have made for a very satisfying trilogy. [Note: I edited my above comment to replace the word "franchise" with "series". I've come to realize that when movie studios, critics, and audiences start to refer to movies (even one-offs) as "franchises", then the movie ceases to be about concept, story, or art, and all about generating revenue. Franchises are for fast-food restaurants. Series are for television or multi-film movies.]

Some of these issues can be chalked up to paradoxically broken cause and effect.

I feel like this video should have been called "Why is this so fucking hard?" lol. But I guess that wouldn't be youtube friendly. I totally agree though. Great review. You should do more. Subscribed.

How do we get this channel more exposure?!??

I did enjoy T3 for it's action set pieces. I thought the chase scene was far more adrenaline inducing than the one that was really over hyped from Matrix Reloaded that came out around the same time (I think they were both released the same summer, but I'm too lazy right now to verify). I also liked the fact that they went with the direction that judgement day is inevitable, but the downside to that is the sequels have somehow cannonized it and each one just presents a different version of judgement day's aggressors. And yes, it gets old. I think the main problem is that because T2 exists and did a pretty good job of cementing itself in pop culture and did massive amounts of money, there's never going to be a sequel that justifies it's existence. I will say that I did like the ideas in Sarah Connor Chronicles. The idea of a covert hidden war happening today which would determine the starting positions of both the humans and machines when judgement day happened was kinda fun in a silly way. Then again, I'm just going to say that time travel is a stupid concept in movies to begin with if you just think about little things like...space and planetary movement. It's quite possible there's no way to time travel anywhere and actually even land on Earth itself because time and space are kind of interconnected. Of all the time travel movies, I thought Primer had the most plausible version of it since time travel was literally just real time going backwards in time...so it heavily limited how far you can go as well as the fact that to go back, you have to set up in the past where you're going. At any rate, you voiced different reasons than me for kind of watching Terminator as a franchise rust to death, but still valid points. I just don't get as wrapped up in the details. If James Cameron will break his human tissue rule, then was it really important? If the original writer doesn't think so, who am I to argue?

spot on

Did you not really go into The Sarah Connor Chronicles because you like it? BTW, great video!

Have you seen the Universal Soldier sequels John Hyams has made? They're, for me, the best 'Terminator' movies we never got after T2.

16:00 Yeah, so, I think I watched three Terminator films. Might have seen Salutation, but, not sure. I'd always assumed that the time machine was small - they have to go fetal because it's small, and that they step into it clothed, it's just the clothes don't go. As you point out, every T sequel screws up the original, even T2. You can do sequels, but the rules have to be; you cannot change time*, you must go further back**, you may not use Arnold***. * Skynet thinks it can change the present by screwing the past, but the entire point of the film is that skynet is wrong, There was always a Terminator in 1984. ** Unless you do the very specific film you outlined, which works, except, I think you're allowing an understandable fondness for T2 to let you continue an error - the liquid metal Terminator is a huge tech leap that was inappropriate then. The repercussions of having that tech are overwhelming. *** Again except for doing exactly what you did with him. I concur on the Summer Glau thing, but, in a broader sense, having Terminators all look like Arnold wouldn't work. I have a hobby script I keep going back to and doodling on. I set it in 1884. I say the Arnold Terminator was the last terminator skynet sent back, but there were others before, in very similar ways to what you outlined. I figure the way to escalate the films isn't to improve the terminators but to reduce the options for the prey. Also I love riverboat gamblers and having one as the Connor is too good to miss. Plus, terminator Vs. Future soldier on a paddle-steamer is gloriously fun, and not just because I also then get to have a Terminator Vs Alligator sequence.

Terminator 2: Judgment Day debuted 30 years ago today. Happy Anniversary ❤

ha nice man, i stopped watching anything terminator related after the third movie....did read the comics as a kid (the darkhorse ones)

Just him and me? In the first movie Reese said that "no one else comes through, it's just him and me" and that the TDE (Time Displacement Equipment) was blown up after he went in. So how come two more travelers appear ten years later? "Reese didn't know about the jeopardy that John Connor was to face at age 10, and neither did Sarah. So, that was the starting point" - James Cameron (Starlog #171) Reese couldn't know what happened after he left his time, and also couldn't be told. When Reese disappeared, John Connor knew he had to send one more protector because he knew that another assassin was sent, and this time to 1995. He alone had this knowledge. The extended T2 script, novelization and T2: Nuclear Twilight #4 comic book all depicted the scene the same way. From the script, right after Reese disappears: FUENTES Sapper team. Set your charges. Let's blow this place back to Hell. Connor shakes his head no. Mustering his strength. CONNOR Not yet. There's one more thing we have to do. After the second protector is sent, then they destroy the TDE It is not clear when exactly Skynet sent his two terminators. It was shortly before the war was over, but when exactly is not clear. The Resistance was able to sent their protectors only after Skynet was defeated and all machines stopped functioning, in July of 2029. It was then that they could enter Skynet's facilities, access abandoned TDE and do their part. Reese still suspected that Skynet might've sent more than one Terminator before getting destroyed. From the final shooting script of the first movie, the motel scene: SARAH He'll find us, won't he? REESE Probably. Sarah, if I get zeroed-- SARAH Don't say that. REESE If I do, you have to get away, disappear without a trace. Different country, different name, everything. In case they send another one. How did the T-1000 time travel if he doesn't have living tissue? Here's the answer: Some say that the liquid metal can mimic human skin so flawlessly that it can fool the TDE. However, that can't be the case because the fact still remains it's not live, and only live things can move through time. The novelization and T2 extreme DVD text commentary explains that T-1000 was wrapped inside a flesh cocoon, that's why T-1000's arrival was done off screen. Van Ling: That idea (flesh cocoon) was one we had bandied about during preproduction, but it was something that we thought would be too confusing to show visually it would have been like when Brett finds the shed alien skin in Alien. I still think it's the most logical explanation, given we see a flesh "mold" in the teaser trailer already. The other possibilities are that 1) the T-1000 could mimic the field generated by a living organism or 2) Reese really does NOT know tech stuff. Note that several comics and other media later played off the idea of surgically embedding weapons into human carriers and ripping them out of them once they arrived originally there was suppose to be a scene showing officer Joe Austin finding the skin. Van Ling: it was something that we thought would be too confusing to show visually it would have been like when Brett finds the shed alien skin in Alien The novelization itself tells a story of John and his soldiers stumbling upon traces of liquid metal left in the same flesh mold that we've seen in the teaser trailer supporting Van Ling's exact same explanation. Novelization: They walked underneath them to the place where the two 20-ton plates met and peered within the small gap there. it was only large enough for a single man to step between and there was an indention in each of the plates, an indention in the shape of a man. Connor squinted at something gleaming at the edge of a small round opening positioned where the neck of a man would be in the lower indention. He squatted, feeling his age in his aching knees, and shined his light at what had caught his eye. He carefully extended the tip of his plasma rifle down into the indention, using the barrel of the well used weapon to prod what appeared to be a large drop of liquid mercury. As the barrel of his rifle touched the liquid it flowed onto the barrel of his rifle and seemed to soak in, disappearing. When did the movie take place? There are some sources saying the movie takes place in 1994, although it's incorrect. The movie itself points out that the events are happening in 1995. The first scene where the date is revealed is when T-1000 accesses police computer. The data shows John's birth as 2/28/85 and his age being 10. That means the movie's taking place somewhere from early to late 1995. Both Terminators arrive on Saturday, T-800 at 3:14 AM and the T-1000 at 4:58 AM Van Ling confirms: The film is supposed to take place in 1995, since John was conceived in mid-May of 1984 and thus would have been born around February of 1985, and if he's supposed to be ten years old in T2, that would make it 1995. We really never tried to lock down the exact dates, but since I was the one who programmed that police computer on the set, I can at least vouch for that part of it! Some say that it's not as apparent because of two factors 1. T-800 says that in 35 years he'll be reprogrammed and sent back. We know that it will happen in 2029, and 1994 plus 35 is 2029. Although it's very likely that T-800 was rounding the years, since he didn't mention months and days but years only - a clear indicator of rounding. 2. From what T-800 said, it seems that the Judgment Day, dated 1997, will happen in 3 years which would point out 1994. However, T2 takes place during the colder months, as evidence by clothing worn by people at the mall. So if T2 took place in early 1995, that would make 2 years, 6 months, and few days until Judgment Day, 8/29/97. Obviously, when the Terminator mentions "three years", it is not exact. He obviously doesn't mean it's exactly three years to the day. He is simply rounding to the nearest whole number, and that would fit perfectly since the rounded time is actually 3 years On the other hand, Sarah, who was 19 in '84, was described by dr. Silberman as '29 year old female", which would also point out at 1994, but could easily be 1995 as well One way or another, the answer is clearly displayed on the police computer. Therefore, the answer is 1995 The Future scenes/Final Battle takes place on July 11, 2029 Those are not errors. It is all stated here in this website and in the original shooting script. Most of the data can be found here: www.jamescamerononline.com/T2FAQ.htm

It's odd how James Cameron abandoned the original ending of T2, which would have firmly ended the series on two movies, in favor of the ambiguous one. Even though he's claimed that Linda Hamilton's old-age make-up was the reason for axing the ending, something tells me that some nudging by studios may have been the real reason why things were left open-ended. But I can only speculate. In the meantime I should get me that Blu Ray to satisfy my head-canon.

@7:50 Holy S#1T! Who told you there was a production budget?! Blue screen? Lighting? Audio Engineer? Makeup? Overlay post production? What's going on here?!

7:24 oh for fuck sake! none of the sequels retcon any of this conversation What so ever as in the original timeline (the one set before the terminator, the one that Michael Biehn's version of Kyle Reese is from) Skynet hadn't already sent the terminator back, Kyle wasn't John's Father He was his right-hand. The Terminator stepped on a butterfly just by being in 1984 and Kyle following him back to repair the damage wouldn't have been able to protect everything in the timeline. What's more than that is He wouldn't even be able to know exactly what those changes are Without directly witnessing them. Changes would've happened anyways, as it is two Sara Connors are already dead by the time that Reese finds the terminator. Two Sara Connors that were not murdered in the timeline that Kyle is from. Their absence from the timeline in the short-term would've been insignificant however in the long-term, the further out in time you go, the more unrecognizable the timeline begins to look. Change even the slightest thing that happens in the original timeline (Which both Kyle and the Terminator did many times throughout the course of the first movie) and the consequences are impossible for even Skynet to predict.

I don't know what you've been doing or might otherwise have on your plate--but, seriously, please come back with more movie-reviews/analyses; KZfaq NEEDS you.

Please do a video on Pulp Fiction!

I always thought the idea of having a favorite film was ridiculous due to the sheer amount of amazing films out there that you will see, have seen, or will never have the time to see. That being said, The Terminator is one of the only films I would consider putting in my top ten if I ever had a top ten. My love for the original Terminator is a painful one because of how awful the franchise turned out to be, and watching the film now will always be bitter sweet. I can never unsee the sequels or erase the stained image I have of The Terminator. I don’t hate T2 by any means, but it turned out to be the sign of things to come. T2 is one of the best things to happen to the Terminator franchise and also one of the worst. It essentially secured the fate of the franchise as being a series of films that all just retread the original concept and story elements without adding much if anything beneficial to the original source material. It saddens me to the think about The Terminator even though I still adore it, and that to me is something I will never forgive James Cameron for. He allowed his art to be turned into a shitty, dumbed down, rehashed commercial product designed to appeal to the most amount of people possible for a quick buck. So for that I say eat shit Mr. Camaroon. Have fun making your stupid fucking blue cat people movies. I hope to god they bomb at the box office worse than Terminator Dark Fate did.

do you have any social media account ?

Wait. We're supposed to make sense of this junk? I just have it/them on while doing meaningful things like playing FreeCell.

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You’re sure there’s no way you can make the next Terminator film?

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Just wanted the proper sequel to T3 rise of the machines in the future war that could've become the second trilogy in the franchise to that part but done how it should've looked in T1 T2 and even T3 with the same actors back Nick stahl Clare Danes and arine as that follow up was gonna happen but got cancelled for some reason so we got the crappy boring prequel salvation instead that never felt like a terminator film to me the series ended after rise of the machines as it's the last real sequel that was going forward not being prequels that being salvation or reboots with different timelines genises and dark fate.

1 dislike eh? Must be James Cameron XD

Star Wars is up there but Terminator might be the biggest drop in filmic series quality ever seen. First 2 great, 3rd ok ish, but the rest... I mean I’ve seen them but my Gods, the bits I remember, they are absolute drivel. Nice looking drivel, but still.

Would 100% watch Matts Terminator 3. However, only if it included the continuity from the Sarah Connor Chronicles because that shit was underrated and T1000 Shirley Manson was the best.

You’re like a white Neil DeGrasse Tyson

Cameron blew it. He could of ended it w/ the future war movie but wanted to make the smurf sequels that will never come out. Major drag huh?

No I disagree with that whole introduction it's a disrespectful opinion in the installments that have reached the big screen only one of them was actually hard to watch.

I thought Genesis was bad... but Dark Fate took bad to a whole new level... just bad to the point where I couldn't believe what I was watching. Just another movie franchise ruined by current world politics.

17:20- 17:45 Dude I am a Millennial and yeah that does sound like Hell on Earth... I do pity the rest of my generation though who think that'd be amazing...

Salvation was an ok film if it had just been a stand alone completely different ip. Genesis however is one of the worst movies I’ve ever seen ever. It’s a fart you should’ve never trusted oozing it’s way down your khakis on a first date.

Comparing the distrust and rejection of ICE to its own subjugation and cruelty towards immigrants as moral equivalents is pretty cringe but other then that, pretty good video.

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