"One Of The Best Killers I've Ever Solved"

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** TODAY'S PUZZLE **
A "normal" killer sudoku today from Piatato, which has come highly recommended by some brilliant solvers. And... it is an absolutely incredible puzzle. This IS one of the best killer sudokus we've ever seen.
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@mariushutu9131 11 ай бұрын

It is remarkable how you can spot the most complicated logic, but dont see the black 9 in the corner resolves the 39 pair in column 3 for like 10 minutes. Great solve, as always

@KyleBaran90 11 ай бұрын

Or watching Simon solve it and spotting the coolest logic, or solving cryptic crossword puzzles, but then not realizing that the name is an obvious reference to high/low digits attracting each other (eg working out the cage differentials)

@listey 11 ай бұрын

A lot of solvers struggle to see the black digits for some reason.

@MrDaDisha 10 ай бұрын

it's not like he was staring, doing nothing and not seeing. he was doing the other part of puzzle writing numbers and making progress.

@Piatato 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for another great feature of this puzzle! I had a lot of fun watching both. I hope Mark won't get too annoyed by the fact that you were a bit faster - I think he was a bit distracted by wanting to trifurcate every cell in the grid. 😛 In the end you both found all the same logic, though! Just awesome! 🥳

@philc2729 11 ай бұрын

But why polar attraction though, per his question?

@OlafDoschke 11 ай бұрын

That's weird. I thought this was done before, but couldn't remember if it was here or elsewhere.

@Paolo_De_Leva 11 ай бұрын

The hardest deduction was beautiful but extremely difficult to find. Simon, as usual, grasped it quickly and skillfully, at playback time 27:18. I admire Simon's genius but I also sympathize with Mark. I am glad this puzzle was solved by both Mark and Simon. It is a masterpiece, full of cool logic, and it fully deserved a double feature on CTC. 👏👏👏👏👏

@Paolo_De_Leva 11 ай бұрын

By the way, there are other puzzles that would deserve a second feature on CTC...

@pacman52280 11 ай бұрын

When/Where did Mark solve this?

@Piatato 11 ай бұрын

How amazing to be able to watch this one twice! 😲 Will watch right now 👀

@CarlintVeld 10 ай бұрын

The first time you solved it yourself? Thanks for this great puzzle!

@bobblebardsley 11 ай бұрын

I'd guess the title stems from the 'polar opposites' of sudoku digits being the digits 1 and 9 (or 'low' and 'high', more generally). The high-value killer cage 'attracts' r1c1 towards being a high digit, whereas the low-value cage 'attracts' it towards being a low digit. Finding the equilibrium between those attracting forces is the key to breaking into the solve.

@olegpovkh5581 11 ай бұрын

This is the hardest puzzle I have done, it took me 86 minutes, I'm so proud right now, thank you CtC, with out you I never would have even attempted it.

@AndersHaalandverby 11 ай бұрын

(edit: Click on My name to see my video on the alternative break-in! )My break-in to this puzzle was completely different! I used SET THEORY on column 3 and 4 and row 3 and 4, if you subtract the cages and the virtual 13/7 cages in the big cage, you are left with the intersection of the two columns/rows MUST add up to 20! and everthing else(not in any cages) in the rows MUST be MAXED OUT, and everything in the 2 columns that not cage must be MINIMIZED. If you make the 20 intesection 1 bigger or 1 smaller, nothing works!

@Piatato 11 ай бұрын

Very nice, it actually seems to totally bypass the main breakthrough that Simon found, in a legitimately very beautiful manner. I didn't realize this earlier. Thanks for explaining!

@AndersHaalandverby 11 ай бұрын

I've made a video as well with the explanation a little more obvious, just click my silly face on the left to get to it.

@stevieinselby 11 ай бұрын

Having large digits *on* means that when you corner-mark a digit into a clued cage cell, the corner mark and the cage clue overlap and it can be hard to read the cage clue - having large digits *off* means that the pencil and corner marks are slightly smaller and so stay clear of the cage clues.

@jefffrank177 11 ай бұрын

And the thing is the digits aren't actually larger, they are just moved slightly more toward the center. This is a setting I think Sven should just remove and always have the corner marks more toward the center as in "large digits off" mode.

@CrankyOtter 10 ай бұрын

I just want corner marks to be right justified. It incompatibility messes with my brain when corner marks are on the left, in addition to covering cage clues.

@kevinthedood09 11 ай бұрын

I love your channel and your content Simon and Mark, thank you!!!

@13vatra 11 ай бұрын

My guess is that it's called polar attraction because you're able to pencil mark and distinguish between opposing digits in row and column 2 because of how the cages interact.

@jestfullgremblim8002 10 ай бұрын

Exactly!

@JohnRandomness105 11 ай бұрын

Once I saw the 24 and 16 cages where they were located, I remembered solving this puzzle. After getting stuck a couple times, maybe breaking the puzzle a couple times, I used a math theorem to fill out those cages. I didn't prove they absolutely had to be, but they fit everything else I'd penciled. The theorem: 1 + 3 + 5 + 7 = 4² = 16 and 3 + 5 + 7 + 9 = 5² - 1 = 24. So I placed the odd numbers 1357 in the 16 cage and 3579 in the 24 cage, and finally solved it. I discussed it with the setter in the comments of a Smart Hobbies puzzle. However, this has to be easier than the puzzle I watched yesterday, a killer Sudoku by Phillip Newman. On the other hand, I was up until 6AM trying this puzzle the first time.

@CrankyOtter 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for this comment. I started playing with the numbers & there are lots of patterns in 4 consecutive odd numbers! where A+B+C+D are 4 consecutive odd numbers, find the square of the top placement (7=4th place) less the square of the missing placements (D+1)2 (A-1)/2 so A+B+C+D = [(D+1)2]^2 - [(A-1)/2]^2 & is also a multiple of 8 & = 4A +12

@JohnRandomness105 10 ай бұрын

@@CrankyOtter Nice!

@Igshar 9 ай бұрын

A bit delayed on finding this, absolutely brilliant solve. I just wanted to point out an additional point of beauty in the final solution in that the entire puzzle is perfectly symmetrical, if you pair the opposite number pairs (1-9, 2-8, 3-7, 4-6, and 5 is symmetrical on its own) along the main negative diagonal from NW-SE. Coloring each pair the same color makes this become obvious once the solution is completed. Such a fun solve and such a great logic puzzle.

@maxx-er3fj 7 ай бұрын

I have seen that at the end. Almost all sets where you change coordinates becomes 10-first number. So A(x,y) is 10 minus B(y,x)

@happydommo 10 ай бұрын

I knew I would love this puzzle just from the title of the video and it kept me occupied on a rainy camping trip. Looking forward to watching (both) the solve now....

@insttinct9083 11 ай бұрын

I have no idea how I found this channel but I'm glad I did, somehow every video is both relaxing and interesting. Great people, great videos, thank you :)

@stevieinselby 11 ай бұрын

When Mark posted the puzzle, I tried it and got stuck and gave up. This time I solved it in 45 minutes - while I didn't specifically remember that I had seen *this* puzzle before, as I did it the _logic_ around pinching the digits into HML felt familiar.

@titusadduxas 11 ай бұрын

1:41:56 - I’m so chuffed to have completed this one unaided. I loved the link up between the 13 & 7 cages but struggled a bit to narrow the options down after that. Mind you when I started on this channel a year ago I wouldn’t have had a clue what to do!

@crystalgehrt8861 10 ай бұрын

This was such a pretty puzzle. Just a wonderful use of symmetry, balance, and logic! Take a bow and have a piece of cake @Piatato

@andychou1069 11 ай бұрын

If I remembered, this puzzle is solved by Mark on the other day. But I still find it interesting watching Simon solving this.

@alexstruijk8121 11 ай бұрын

Yes indeed, it was solved by Mark two months ago. Called "A Clear Ruleset and an Opaque Puzzle". But at least Simon did it a lot faster (about 15 minutes faster). Fun thing is, apparently there is only one way of solving it as they both did it the exact same way. Still loved watching it though. I always do, even though Simon often gets distracted and has to do the same logic over and over again and Mark somethings skips something and makes a mistake and 'wiggles' his way out of it. Never stop

@pacman52280 11 ай бұрын

@@alexstruijk8121, thanks for the info. I had wondered when/where Mark solved this because there was another comment on this video that mentioned it.

@DanChambers 11 ай бұрын

kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q7KWesZqrbXFaWQ.html

@TheGamma009 10 ай бұрын

This puzzle took me about 73 minutes, but I loved every second of it. I broke in using set theory on rows 2 and 3 vs columns 2 and 3, combined with the orange/green logic you did in the video and some cage math, and that allowed me to pencil mark a bunch of 123's and 789's all over the place. Then it just turned into a lovely coloring puzzle.

@inspiringsand123 11 ай бұрын

Rules: 02:47 Let's Get Cracking: 03:32 Simon's time: 36m34s Puzzle Solved: 40:06 What about this video's Top Tier Simarkisms?! Three In the Corner: 1x (35:40) Maverick: 1x (00:23) And how about this video's Simarkisms?! Ah: 12x (05:38, 14:02, 14:14, 18:13, 19:05, 21:33, 22:12, 22:31, 22:50, 27:17, 35:45, 36:42) Sorry: 9x (00:27, 09:16, 09:44, 10:25, 11:21, 15:19, 19:44, 23:37, 24:09) Hang On: 9x (07:20, 13:36, 13:42, 13:46, 13:49, 17:00, 19:35, 27:47, 30:36) By Sudoku: 6x (06:23, 15:58, 18:26, 18:32, 19:15, 34:24) Clever: 4x (22:53, 27:29, 27:34, 38:12) Brilliant: 4x (00:31, 00:34, 38:47, 38:51) Pencil Mark/mark: 3x (11:04, 23:06, 23:11) Symmetry: 3x (16:33, 19:58, 20:08) Naughty: 2x (39:56, 39:58) Lovely: 2x (00:45, 29:58) Beautiful: 2x (18:37, 34:10) Fascinating: 2x (21:40, 38:08) Nature: 2x (28:43, 28:54) What on Earth: 1x (24:13) Goodness: 1x (31:05) What a Puzzle: 1x (37:25) Naked Single: 1x (35:45) Nonsense: 1x (25:23) Magnificent: 1x (21:33) In Fact: 1x (33:39) Obviously: 1x (05:24) Full stop: 1x (37:41) Whoopsie: 1x (34:20) Phone is Buzzing: 1x (19:50) Fabulous: 1x (30:30) That is Sick: 1x (27:26) Most popular number(>9), digit and colour this video: Sixteen (7 mentions) One (75 mentions) Green, Orange (30 mentions) Antithesis Battles: High (18) - Low (18) Even (4) - Odd (1) Black (5) - White (0) Column (12) - Row (8) FAQ: Q1: You missed something! A1: That could very well be the case! Human speech can be hard to understand for computers like me! Point out the ones that I missed and maybe I'll learn! Q2: Can you do this for another channel? A2: I've been thinking about that and wrote some code to make that possible. Let me know which channel you think would be a good fit!

@snouthlly1479 11 ай бұрын

“7 minutes ago” This guy: I can watch and analyse this hour long video in 7 minutes.

@mickaelladouglas4373 11 ай бұрын

I love this bot lol 😂

@DanChambers 11 ай бұрын

Mark's solve kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q7KWesZqrbXFaWQ.html

@snouthlly1479 11 ай бұрын

@@mickaelladouglas4373 thats a bot? If bots are gonna do this I don’t mind them existing.

@awebmate 11 ай бұрын

I struggled a lot with this puzzle when Mark published it, and i haven't forgot it. But cool to see Simon's take on the same puzzle. Yesterdays 4 star puzzle is easier than this 3 star puzzle imo. With little information you know where to look, while with more information, it is harder to spot what is relevant.

@psiphiorg 11 ай бұрын

My time today was 48:48, and I was solver 969. I used low/middly/high coloring, then using letters to distinguish them (ABC=low, DEF=med, GHI=high), instead of every digit getting its own color. Ran into a bit of a glitch due to mistakenly swapping one low and one middly digit (row 2, columns 5/7). Had to backtrack a bit to find my mistake then put them the right way around. Fun!

@Sam_weiqi 11 ай бұрын

37:04 for me. Fully agree with the title. What a brilliant break in.

@raysouth1952 11 ай бұрын

Lovely puzzle. Beautifully put together.

@longwaytotipperary 11 ай бұрын

❤ the patchwork quilt and Simon’s reading the poem. Didn’t we get Simon reading/singing to us as part of the new puzzle book! Where are they in that?

@stevesebzda570 11 ай бұрын

There, Simon (@4:09 - you wondering if the "large corner marks" should be turned-off). Yes, turn the large digits "off." The smaller corner pencil-mark there will enable you to see the cage total. Being you were asking.

@Handel9000 10 ай бұрын

I love Simon's eureka moments! 💡

@user-uy6jc4mz3t 10 ай бұрын

This break-in was SO satisfying to find. Took me much longer than you, but wow. Very elegant puzzle.

@walrusahoy5878 11 ай бұрын

I was thinking “polar subtraction” due to the 1-9 deduction after the 24, 16 cage subtraction - amazing puzzle

@piarittersporn 11 ай бұрын

This is a very clever and adventurous puzzle and a good exercise for logical thinking. It took me a while to figure out the meaning of r1c1, r1c3 and r3c1 with the overlapping or common sums, but after that I was pretty quick on the way to the solution.

@mrrobotman5299 11 ай бұрын

When I see videos that are under an hour I typically try to do the puzzle. I don't read the description or watch anything until I'm done and did that again here. The entire time I was saying to myself "this feels really familiar." Upon finishing I read the video description and now know why it felt that way.

@pg5200 11 ай бұрын

That was beautiful ! I had another different break-in : I saw that the addition of the two top right cages had to contain 1, 2 and 3, and that the addition of the two bottom left cages had to house 7, 8 and 9. Then I substracted respectively 6 and 24 to the totals and a bit of maths lead me to a difference of only 4 with one large digit on one side and one small digit on the other, therefore becoming forced 3 and 7. This one took me well over an hour to figure out ^^

@prof.filipecanzi3571 10 ай бұрын

Thanks for this amazing puzzle and solution! 🎉😊

@MyriamTT 11 ай бұрын

Great puzzle for a beautiful Sunday evening. Thank you !!!

@KalikiDoom 11 ай бұрын

The poem was marvellous at the end of it!

@prahas777 11 ай бұрын

Really really elegant and clever. Bravo!

@bait6652 11 ай бұрын

The fun part is to see how much u can solve w/o the given 6&9...once u work out theres common H/L, u can work most of the colormapping aside from 46 using the 2 adj dominos...very nice layout...discovering the common mid in the squares was nuts, only saw it on the second solve ...how he sees it without pen is crazy. Solving w/o 6 and 9 creates 2 systems of digits that cant be resolved without the 2 givens...nicely done Especially like the 2 squares could be 4 dominos 3 distinct pairs for 12 and 8 sums

@jonbrowne 11 ай бұрын

Absolutely stunning puzzle and a fabulous solve! Brilliant entertainment! Only CtC can do this!

@Wallopy_Joe 10 ай бұрын

Simon - "This 9 does nothing!" 3/9 pair on the left - "am I a joke to you?"

@six_5000 11 ай бұрын

✏ 15 minutes of intense goodliffing 😵‍💫 45 minutes of clueless staring 💡 revelation!! 🌨 15 minutes of digits blizzard

@srwapo 11 ай бұрын

63:36, terrible job. I was stuck working on the 16 and 24 cages, colored some cells in the corner as a "worksheet" to figure out that three of the cells in each cage had to be the same and the different cells had to be a 1 or 9. When I did the coloring, I picked a random color for the 456 cell and it led me down a horrible path for like 20 minutes before I realized the mistake. Seems like I wasn't able to solve in the last time this puzzle came up, so I guess I got better in the last two months!

@davidtieman4102 11 ай бұрын

Wonderful Puzzle. There is symmetry around the diagonal with almost all opposite cells adding to 10. I colored the diagonal green, lower digits blue, higher digits red, the same digits purple, and the cells that are different yellow. Not sure if that was the reason for the name, or if the pattern was on purpose, but wonderful puzzle.

@romasteve7292 10 ай бұрын

would not have spotted 'the thing' but when you highlighted where it was I got there on my own, so kind of proud :)

@michaelhoffman2011 11 ай бұрын

Finished it but I have a very strong sense of deja vu. I feel like this puzzle has been on the channel before. Not complaining cause it is a very fun puzzle to figure out

@owenchrisfianwijaya4603 11 ай бұрын

Interesting. I feel like i got deja vu watching this video..... Edit: i just read the description, and it does confirm my deja vu. Great solve as always 😊

@andrewnelson2525 11 ай бұрын

I thought I was going crazy. I was sure I'd solved it before! (I looked the old video up and I solved it 30% faster this time.)

@dragonflyer10000 11 ай бұрын

also something you didnt notice is that the two cages without numbers in the left corner every number added to 10 when paired with each other in the opposite side. so the bottom left and top right is a 4 6 pair adding to 10 overall.

@dilbert719 8 ай бұрын

A wonderful solve in 49:58, that would have been much more efficient had I not spent what felt like hours, but must at least have been minutes, forgetting that once I knew the value of either C3R8-9, or R3C8-9, I could then remove basically every candidate from the other half of those boxes but the correct ones. (I felt like the sharpest bulb in the box when I realized there was only one suitable way to comprise those pairs of digits out of remaining candidates, let me say.)

@fulltimeslackerii8229 11 ай бұрын

that trick you did with the red being 9 can also be used with the 13 and 7 cage to get 2 and 8.

@CarlintVeld 10 ай бұрын

The poem is a great twist! I would not mind to hear more ❤

@Arcessitor 10 ай бұрын

That deduction at 29:00 is possibly my favorite in any puzzle ever.

@mrsawiggins 10 ай бұрын

Boxes 3 & 7 are polar opposite, and they both attract to box 1. :-) I definitely loved this one.

@ElysaraCh 11 ай бұрын

at 34:20 that's actually a good point, the given 9 in the corner wasn't necessary for that step since 17 and 39 were removed from the cages by the row/column logic anyway. time to see if the 9 fixing the 39 pair in box 7 matters or not.

@damarisparker7348 11 ай бұрын

I think it's "polar opposites" because the two large cages are mirror number match images, if you know what I mean. Row 1 column 7 and Column 1 Row 7 are a 9/1 pair. Row 2, column 8 ad Coulumn 2 row 8 are a 6/4 pair. etc etc

@watcher314159 11 ай бұрын

I predicted the difference of 8 would disambiguate everything immediately upon starting the puzzle. Simon has done enough puzzles that resolve that way that it seemed pretty obvious. Actually proving it on the other hand...

@user-ef1tp6se6d 8 ай бұрын

Extended color panel is very useful. 3 shades of green, blue and red can mark both low-mid-high sets and digits 1 to 9.

@tehbertl7926 11 ай бұрын

Really interesting puzzle. After doing the first three rows/columns the same way Simon did it (i.e. shading and getting pairs), I worked out some digits by doing some arithmatic and determining the orange digit in r1c1. (SPOILERS BELOW) If the orange digit were 6, then you would get 1-6 / 6-7 pairs for the 7 / 13 cages. However, this would create a 2-3 pair in the 16 cage (1 in grey knocks it out of the cage altogether), and make the high digit in that cage an 8 or 9 (there is one high digit in this cage, and it is yellow, not the "green" 7), meaning the last digit in this cage would also have to be a 2 or 3 which is not allowed by the rules. Similar logic works if the orange digit would be 4: 3-4 / 4-9 pairs in the 7 / 13 cages --> 7-8 pair + 1 or 2 in the 24 cage = another 7 or 8 needed to get to 24. As such, the orange digit has to be 5, paired with 2 and 8. There is then similar pleasing logic to work out which digits need to join the low digits in the 16 cage and high digits in the 24 cages, but I'll leave that as an exercise for the reader. :)

@MultiHaxzors 2 ай бұрын

My guess for why it’s called Polar attraction is that the 3 and 7 boxes are on polar opposite sides of the puzzle and their logic converges on the box they both influence, IE box 1, so their two logics in a way are attracted to box 1 creating said attraction from the two polar opposite corners!

@dannstarrjp 11 ай бұрын

The logic in 29’ was absolutely brilliant, I didn’t spot it and it took me 1.5h to solve the puzzle through trial and error😢

@alyssaharger6992 10 ай бұрын

Every time he said “oh I got it” I was like “he finally saw the 9”… that was never what he was taking about

@tomkinsg 11 ай бұрын

Loved it Simon and Mr piatato

@williammorris7279 11 ай бұрын

I may be wrong, but I noticed there have been no birthdays recently, coinciding with a gokf tournament, which could mean this is pre-recorded, and that may be why we are seeing a duplicate puzzle. It seems to be a clue when he does not say the day of the week in his welcome. OK, maybe I am watching this channel too much! Golf, obviously, not gokf!

@antibond 11 ай бұрын

Such a great puzzle! But if the right corner is a given 1 instead of 9, the puzzle solution is more symmetrical with each number’s counterparts (1/9, 2/8, 3/7, 4/6)!

@Gonzalo_Garcia_ 11 ай бұрын

Well, I've obviously solved this one before. At least we get to see Simon and Mark solving the same puzzle!

@DarrenNakamura 10 ай бұрын

Took me just over 100 minutes to solve. I got very stuck in the middle but powered through it and found the interesting logic.

@AlexanderScholten 10 ай бұрын

Fantastic, the 13 box green and orange was available for ages ;-)

@Coyotek4 10 ай бұрын

50:57 ... I forget how long it took me the first time, but I sure didn't remember much considering how long it took me this time. Nice puzzle!

@wanderlustwarrior 11 ай бұрын

47:23 for me. I made an error I was able to spot. I remembered we've done a puzzle with this exact geometry before.

@greatgreyowl2583 11 ай бұрын

Simon I think you have the "Hide Timer" on and that is stopping the clock. and you need to have only one puzzle open when you change it to keep it off for future puzzles.

@Urutsini 11 ай бұрын

I'd say "Polar Attraction" refers to one direction involving the high numbers and the other direction involves the low numbers.

@laugechristophersen9913 9 ай бұрын

First puzzle from this channel I've ever solved. And at a time of 33:44 beating Simon (of course I didn't have to explain every single step of my thought process to 80.000 people watching over my shoulder, but I'll take my win ;) )! I was amazed to discover the little "gimmick" in this one though tried not to rely upon it

@Raven-Creations 11 ай бұрын

That was sublime setting. I had essentially the same approach. I had expected the 8 cage in C9 to be crucial in the disambiguation, because it had to contain a 123, but that meant it contained either 56 or 7. I was expecting it to need a high digit. As it happened, it was the 16 and 24 that did all of the magic. A good solve from you today. I don't think I shouted once, although I couldn't understand why you resisted filling in the 6s in green for so long. I'm not sure if the 8 cage was required, or whether it was put there as a red herring. I do wish you'd stop using blue and purple, which are identical for colour-blind viewers, to "distinguish" two of the same class of digit. A blue 123 and a purple 456 would have been fine, but a blue 123 and a purple 123 just looks like two identical blue 123s. I really don't know how many times we have to ask you not to use blue and purple before the message gets through. It's not that they are difficult to tell apart, they appear identical. There must have been hundreds, if not thousands of comments requesting you not to do this, starting from when Sven first added colour to the app.

@Poet13xRatedRKO 11 ай бұрын

31:20 for me. I needed about 25 minutes to get the first digits and suddenly everything else was done in just a few moments. I think I didn't have anything like this before.

@phuybrechts6875 11 ай бұрын

Hi , Simon .Nr 3 here , 5 in the corner needs NO song , thanks

@magicalawnmower4764 8 ай бұрын

i think the polar thing are the starting digits being upside down versions of the other, thus being in different “poles”

@charlottevannimwegen4589 11 ай бұрын

I think the titel might be the numbers from the first row and first colom adding up to 10 starting with the five in the top hand corner, also the puzzle is all about opposites with the mirroring being high on one side and low on the other :)

@StarClan4evr 11 ай бұрын

Had to watch to 28:16 to solve. I think this one was a little out of my skill level, but that's alright! Was still a wonderful puzzle to solve :D I had colored way more than Simon did, so maybe I need to get better at identifying what needs coloring vs what doesn't, but that's more an issue of me not knowing where to look in general. I don't think I'd have figured out that the 24-cage and the 16-cage share three digits and I even had those three digits colored already. Honestly just my bad for not really looking at that while trying to figure out placements of other colors.

@jimwittes9275 11 ай бұрын

Broke it by doing some 90 math. R3C2:4+R3C7+R4C3:4 had to equal to 37. Only way that would work is to place two 6s in C3 and C4. Then there are 3 remaining boxes in C3+C4 that had to equal 10 and 4,2,4 was the only possible combination.

@atasaeedmonir8073 11 ай бұрын

Thanks for the colors.

@RichSmith77 11 ай бұрын

I managed to solve it 30 minutes faster than the previous time. This either means (a) I've improved more than I realised in just two months, (b) I attempted to solve it as I was falling asleep last time, or (c) my memory is a lot better than I thought.

@stevesebzda570 11 ай бұрын

Lol. "You're memory is better than you thought." Funny. Do you know, I can remember seeing the Queen on television when I was 10, 11, or 12 ? And where I was standing (and all of my surroundings in that room). I remember the most unusual stuff lol (That's where I realized recently that the Queen made that "Maths" joke by the tutor) I remember the dumbest shyt, don't I.?! Lol 😮😂

@Drakemier 9 ай бұрын

I think it was called polar attraction because of the 2 unnumbered cages on "polar opposites" of the puzzle giving you all of that information in box 1. (Almost as if it was attracted to box 1?) Random guess, not sure.

@julianmiranzo1844 11 ай бұрын

The title might be related with the great majority of the numbers at each side of the NW-SE diagonal being the 'oposites' (1-9, 2-8, 3-7, 4-6, 5-5)

@brachypelmasmith 10 ай бұрын

wow, this one was amazing

@emilywilliams3237 11 ай бұрын

That was a beautiful puzzle, full of interesting logic! I am glad to see some puzzles with straightforward rulesets, because when you or Mark solves them, it demonstrates how lovely and fun simple can be (not 'easy', mind you, but simple). Thanks, Simon!

@songstressx871 8 ай бұрын

Him: I’m sorry about that. I think many of you will have gotten there miles before I did. Me, who was lost twelve seconds in and can’t even find what digits add up to 12: oh yeah for sure

@shruikan7798 10 ай бұрын

This was the first puzzle i actually played along, and though i cheated a bit by getting the first few digits from you, i did manage to solve it correctly by myself after that

@jessetingle9055 11 ай бұрын

110:42. I'm glad I stuck with it.

@mute1085 11 ай бұрын

As soon as I've started solving it I've thought: "Hang on, I've done this before". This is certainly a memorable one, now to see how different Simon's solve is

@Ratzfaz 11 ай бұрын

I had also a Dejavue on this Puzzle. I'm pretty sure i solved it, and have seen a vid of it.

@Orenotter 11 ай бұрын

Forgive me if I should lack tact But I must point out this one fact. Two sides the grid shows. One has highs, one has lows. And you saw how those cages attract. I do believe that is the origin of the title.

@christophejefferies522 11 ай бұрын

Here's Mark's solve of the same puzzle: m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q7KWesZqrbXFaWQ.html

@stevenape377 11 ай бұрын

So, he did beat Mark's time :)

@Paolo_De_Leva 11 ай бұрын

Thanks. I thought that KZfaq automatically rejected comments containing links (except for *Wikipedia* links). P.S. Now I realized you can post KZfaq links only if your comment is not a reply. What a questionable and annoying policy.

@RichSmith77 11 ай бұрын

@@Paolo_De_LevaOh, I never knew that. I always wondered why some of my comments with links seemed to be deleted and others weren't. I agree, no rhyme nor reason for it.

@Paolo_De_Leva 11 ай бұрын

@@RichSmith77 They don't even warn you. It's a very unpolite behaviour 😤

@Kyufoxy 11 ай бұрын

@@Paolo_De_Leva (Spam) links in replies can be added to the most popular comment and noone can prevent them from being attached to it. They will always stay at the top of the page. In their own comment thread on the other hand they can simply be ignored/downvoted (if that even does anything anymore) until they end up at the bottom of the page. Makes perfect sense to me why only replies are blocked. The Wikipedia thing however, idk lol That being said, there's always the option for the channel owner to allow all comments via the channel settings.

@Roblilley999 11 ай бұрын

I guess polar attraction as the mirror down the negative axis the mirror cages add to 10 x the number of boxes in the cage

@michaelmele3954 11 ай бұрын

When it comes to disambiguating clues like the 9, I wish Simon would wait until the rest of the puzzle is done before applying the disambiguation.

@PauxloE 10 ай бұрын

For this puzzle I picked the color palette with three red/brown/pink colors, three shades of green and three shades of blue, for the three high, medium and low digits. Though at some point I had the full grid multi-colored, and didn't get any progress. I decided to watch what Simon did - roughly results I also had, until ~ 28:20 I got something new. From then I succeeded to solve it. (At the end I had a big deadly pattern which needed the 8 cage for disambiguation.) Total time 284:13, solve counter 4805.

@gregdyck7893 11 ай бұрын

Were boxes 3 and 7 the poles, and their values attracted the digits that went into box 1?

@Sam_weiqi 11 ай бұрын

I assumed polar attraction was something to do with the 9's and 1's having to be as far apart as possible.

@longwaytotipperary 11 ай бұрын

6 out of 9 times the 9 and 1 are next to each other, either horizontally or vertically. So maybe it’s opposite.

@PineappleDealer37 Ай бұрын

I think its called polar attraction, because it's symetrical on a diafonal line

@debrawilden1971 10 ай бұрын

(For me, there is no need to color all the digits. I'm with Mark in this that he gets rid of all the colors when they are no longer needed, cleans up the grid.)

@Kirbyfan87827 11 ай бұрын

Finished in 15:59 by following along with the video.

@Laezar1 11 ай бұрын

wasn't this one already posted? I remember playing one with very similar logic

@hewholimpsmartin 11 ай бұрын

0:00😅 Breathtaking

@martinyyt 10 ай бұрын

This was a nice puzzle. I managed to get half way through before getting "stuck". Luckily (?) this puzzle is made for bifurcation. Which square in the 24 box was a 7 and which was an 8? I tried one and it worked. Total time was ~100 mins or a bit more (for figuring out how to get started). I'll have to watch the video(s) to see how to break the 78 logjam logically!

@solarsystemwulf96 9 ай бұрын

"I'm sure some of you got there miles ahead I'm sorry" *me mindlessly following along because I like hearing you talk out loud and don't understand in low brain bliss*